Angel's story haunts me all the time. Bless the brave woman who went undercover to film it.

One of our teachers in the vet tech program knew a woman who contracted psittacosis from her pet bird - the woman almost died as well. It's like a really extreme pneumonia.

The reason we don't catch this from wild birds is because we leave them in the wild and don't cram them into cages or a home with not enough flying room or ventillation.

Wild animals are not "exotic pets" - they are WILD ANIMALS and belong in the jungles of South America or the old growth forests of North America - not in someone's living room!!

Please please please keep up the good work, PETA, and here's hoping every tarantula, scorpian, snake, chinchilla, bird, fish and all other wild creatures stay in the wild.

It is their home, it is where they are happy, and where they belong, with their wild families. Please don't ever buy from pet stores!

Posted by: Maya, CVT | June 17, 2008 11:39 PM

omg! before i knew about bird mills, i bought a parakeet from petco. in october, i was having athsmalike symptoms and had to go to a pulmonologist (sp?). they tested me for psitticosis. thank god it wasn't that, but after learning about this disease, and the cruelty to birds, i will never have another bird.

Posted by: claire | June 18, 2008 12:01 AM

Petland also buys birds from bird mills

Unlike Petsmart (who works with adoption groups and shelters) Petland buys ALL its puppies from puppy mills

And every Petland does this

Posted by: kelly | June 18, 2008 12:35 AM

It's not the birds fault. They are entering a land of human greed! Most people don't "SHOP" for a pet they "BUY" them on a whim and the end result is their pets' suffering. Do more and more people have to lose their lives for us to get the picture, like Maya said these animals belong to the wild!! Be careful of your upcoming ads on Chicks and Boots!! This may have an adverse affect!

Posted by: Carla | June 18, 2008 12:45 AM

Ummm...did we forget that A PERSON died??

Posted by: eldo | June 18, 2008 04:34 AM

Having a bird in a cage is not healthy for any man or beast, but for perspective you must know that many more people will be hospitalized, some of which will die, from infections from cat bites. Ninety percent of cat bites will become infected. The weak, the sick, the old, the young often become seriously ill after a cat bite (read little old cat lady). So, from a health and safety POV, feral cats should be eradicated at a safe distance or left alone completely. The feral cat catch-sterilize-release cycle that some well meaning folks engage in is far more dangerous than owning a parrot.

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | June 18, 2008 05:26 AM

Why wasn't the ASPCA contacted?

Posted by: Mary Domhan | June 18, 2008 06:20 AM

I find the video about Angel so disturbing but I also find it disturbing that there did not seem to be any contact made with an animal protection agency.

If this incident went unreported, it was just as cruel to film this for the duration without reporting the neglect.

Posted by: Mary Domhan | June 18, 2008 06:31 AM

Poor Angel!
That is so horrible. She was just a tiny little baby and looked so scared. So many people with birds do not care for them properly. My friend has a cockatiel that he was so excited about her at first.Now he does not really care and will not listen to my suggestion of finding her a companion at the shelter. I have to urge him to clean the feces from her water frequently. I really wish people would give more consideration towards animals that deserve their freedom. I saw a classified ad of a person looking for a skunk as a pet in todays newspaper.Urg. Animals deserve freedom and if they are deprived of this.. pretty damn good care!

If they try to clip your wings fly away... far away. I know why the caged bird sings so I'll await my next escape to be with you again.

Posted by: Annalena | June 18, 2008 07:19 AM

I BOUGHT A HAND RAISED COCKATIEL FROM A PRIVATE PARTY. SHE IS LUCY A MEMBER OF THE NCS BANDED, THEY SAID SHE IS SHOW QUALITY.. THEN WE BOUGHT A LARGE PARROT CAGE.. I LOVE LUCY SHE HAS FREE RANGE IN MY HOME. SHE EATS OFF MY SALAD PLATE WITH ME.. I DONT WORK (HOMEMAKER) I CANT IMGINE SOMETHING HAPPINING TO HER. I DO HAVE A AVIAN VET.. IS THIS WRONG FOR ME TO HAVE HER? SHE THINKS SHE IS A CHIHUAHUA MY 15 YEAR OLD LILY WELL SHE DONT EVEN KNOW SHES A CHIHUAHUA.. LUCY LOVES TO PLAY AT THE WINDOW SHE HAS A SWING .. IN THE SPRING WHEN ITS COOL OUT SHE SINGS TO THE BIRDS OUTSIDE.. WELL ANYWAY I DONT SHOW HER AND I DONT OWN HER.. SHE OWNS ME

Posted by: marcy | June 18, 2008 11:54 AM

i was absolutely disgusted by this. it made me miserable. "PetSmart" dont deserve to be called that. they are childish, insensitive and should not be allowed to sell animals like this.
DONT BUY FROM PETSMART EVER!!!

Posted by: Jasmine | June 18, 2008 11:57 AM

Daniella,

I call that "blood money" that the rescue groups get from the chain pet stores.

Yes the rescues get money from the stores.

The store also get the added bonus of goodwill.
PLUS the items that the new guardians buy there for Spot or Kitty.

PLUS they might see a bird or hamster or gerbil or other small animal bred in these mills that they may add to their pet family.

PLUS the people will buy supplies for that animal at that store.

The dogs and cats adopted benefit of course. And the rescues benefit of course. I try not to begrudge them that.

But the one who benefits most is PETSCRAP! They are only for the corporate profit (and goodwill, which will breed more profit) in the end.

Posted by: Tamara | June 18, 2008 02:19 PM

As an aside, back in those wild and wacky days that PETA was against that *other* pet chain, I led (or actually tried to lead) protests in my area.

The most I eve could get was 4 people including myself.

The local "animal rights team" was too busy trying to shut down the chain that still sells puppies and kittens.

They did get that store closed. I contacted them and congratulated them.

Then mentioned that maybe their members could join me in my demos at the other chain.

I was told that this "animal rights team" were ASKED NOT TO PROTEST THAT CHAINSTORE by rescue groups who received money from the store.

So...what an animal rights team we have here in my area, huh?? :P

Posted by: Tamara | June 18, 2008 02:23 PM

This truth about this disease that can affect birds and humans was brought home to me in a fairly scary way when PETA first started the campaign.

I adopted a female parakeet from a shelter in Geneva, IL. That is about a 500 mile drive for me.

We had lost a little girl a few months earlier, and my 2 boys really needed that presence to well, function. They are all housed seperately so there is NO breeding going on. Just something about my boys, they like that combination of friends around or something.

There were no single females in my area. Single males or bonded pairs. So when I found this little girl, and they agreed to let me adopt her, I had no qualms about the drive. (I drove 400 miles-in a different direction-for one of my boys!!)

However, when PETA put up the PETSMART Cruelty campaign site, I saw there was a bird found at a PETsCrap in Geneva, IL!! I believe it was a cockatiel...no matter. It was in a store my girl could have come from. (she was a stray so no one knows, and both stores are in town)

I was frightened to death. Even though my girl (Ming Ming) had her well-check at the avian vet and passed with flying (heh) colors, it still hit just TOO close to home.

These stores must be stopped!!

Posted by: Tamara | June 18, 2008 02:32 PM

You know, I totally agree that Petsmart should stop selling animals. However, I feel torn, because before I knew about the cruelty, I got my 3 cats and my dog from rescue groups at Petsmart. Do they get a kick-back from these organizations? If they start to, maybe they will realize that they could make more money by allowing private organizations and rescues to bring their adoptable companions, than by selling these poor, abused creatures...
Continue the good work, Peta!

Posted by: Daniella | June 18, 2008 03:12 PM

Very sad story but tell me please why was Angel not bought and hopefully saved from this miserable end ! Am I missing something here., or just thick !! comments please....

Posted by: keith | June 18, 2008 04:32 PM

Jut curious as to what was wrong with my post...it ws not posted. You got my email, let me know.
Thanks
Craig

Posted by: CB | June 18, 2008 04:45 PM

Chris Cochran,

Hey buddy! I'm glad you're back - I've missed you! ;)

I am very passionate about feral cats and have worked with them for a long time, so don't take it personally if I sound over the top here -

But people are dead wrong when they talk about feral cats. Most people are FAR FAR more likely to see raccoons than true feral cats!!

Feral cats are petrified of humans. The elderly, children, etc would literally have to stalk them out and chase them in order to even see one, much less get bitten or scratched!

Now, I'm sure you've had patients say "I was bitten / scratched by a feral cat" but in my 20 years of experience, they always mean a cat who is outdoors. Here is the difference:

Feral: Inbred, non socialized cat several generations down from domestic cat who are almost never seen. Often cross eyed and TERRIFIED of humans.

Stray: Domestic who is lost, wandering neigborhoods outdoors

Outdoor cat: Owned cat who is allowed outside, still roams neighborhood. Almost impossible to tell from a newly stray cat.

Most people say "feral" when they mean "a not very nice cat outdoor who bit me" Plus people are far more likely to be bitten by their own cats, unless they make a habit of approaching stray animals, which they should not ever do!

The original animal shelters were for STRAYS ONLY. We need to go back to that system. I have socialized ferals and they are wonderful with love and understanding.

People need to keep all cats indoors so the feral population can die off naturally - because we have no right whatsoever to destoy even one single feral cat - since we are the ones who created this ugly situation, not them.

Posted by: Maya, CVT | June 18, 2008 06:34 PM

I worked for the MSPCA and people should know, cruelty agents for the ASPCA DO NOT inspect or investigate pet stores.

The USDA and other agencies license and inspect pet stores and any complaints are handled by them. The USDA would not have responded in enough time to save any animals in Rainbow Exotics. The woman in the film did exactly the right thing.

I have dealt with the USDA and they do not save animals from neglect or abuse. They simply warn and fine people who do not comply, and it takes weeks or months for them to respond to complaints because they are backlogged.

The woman in the film is a hero, make no mistake about it.

Ps Daniella, that's a good point - the shelters I worked at often brought animals for adoption to Petsmart and Petco. Unfortunately they are only doing it for their reputation.

They want to associate themselves with rescue organizations because they know as pet stores that the public is getting more saavy and more educated about pet store abuses so the stores are getting desperate.

The adoptions at those places went horribly - people who stopped in wanted to purchase only puppies and kittens and they did not want to fill out adoption forms or have their vets called for references.

Petco and Petsmart are using shelters to make themselves look good - which will never happen.

Peace, all! ;)

Posted by: Maya, CVT | June 18, 2008 06:42 PM

Was not posted earlier????
After seeing the video of Angel I looked up Rainbow World Exotics. They are actually listed as a “child care business”……same address. Owner is Jack Graham.
Is it error (what do you think) or is someone trying to hide? Why is Peta not taking this kind of deception to task. From local paper ”Jack Graham, owner of Rainbow World Exotics, gave a report on his business how it evolved from a small operation to a nationwide business. He explained growth opportunities, expansion and marketing, and quality control. Jack’s business is an ideal example of expanding a small agriculture business. “ This guy is actually winning awards and giving speeches to grads! Apparently this guy has several business but needs even more money running mills!
Where’s the pressure??
If you let them hide, they will never change.

See w w w (dot) manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_65z2t5y

4772 County Road 105, Hamilton, TX 76531-3826, United States (Map)
Phone:
SIC:Child Day Care Services
Line of Business:Child Day Care Services

Posted by: CB | June 18, 2008 07:06 PM

This is so sad, I have a Goffin and they are wonderful birds and love there families. Why wasn't something done for Angel? It isn't just the breeder who did her an injustice, whoever filmed it just sat back and watched for what?, the sake of a good video? She should have been bought or had the SPCA brought in to do something for her, Humanly killing her would've been better. This is just sick all around!!

Posted by: Rick | June 18, 2008 09:02 PM

Maya,
I agree that people need to keep their cats indoors at all times, and that we have no right to kill feral cats. We do, however, have a responsibility to do the best we can for them and the individual wild animals who should not have to suffer and die at the hands of a non-native predator introduced by human irresponsibility. Trapping and socializing is great, if you have the time and the resources, but when both stray and feral cats and the animals they prey on have a tendency to die miserably it isn't fair to discount euthanasia as an ethical alternative. Your tone is quite condescending, to be frank, and in light of the overpopulation crisis I think it's really unfair to expect shelter and rescue folk to save unsocialized and usually quite sickly animals when the perfectly adoptable ones are dying every day.
I would love to see the feral population die out naturally too, but I'm not optimistic that will happen in my lifetime. Until that time comes I would much rather have them euthanized than watch them play with a bird they've killed and then see them wind up dead on the side of the road anyway. And though I don't value the life of a socialized cat more than that of a feral, it doesn't seem right to cause nearly undomesticated cats so much undue stress by sticking them in a cage in a shelter and displacing the animals who do have a shred of hope to cling to.

Posted by: Amanda | June 18, 2008 09:58 PM

A sad Cockatoo story.
I got a frantic call at 2 AM from my dear friend Janis.
She rescued a beautiful Cockatoo 15 years ago from a crack house where who knows what this bird had been exposed to.
She is a nurse who took such good care of her angel and each day stopped at the grocery store to buy fresh produce for this beautiful bird. The bird spent summers out side in the shade of a large oak tree in a very large cage which was on a balcony 6 feet off the ground. This bird was so happy it lay-ed eggs on a regular basis and Janis would take the eggs and blow them so she could give them back to the bird who nurtured them and protected them.
When Janis got off work last night she came home and found someone had scaled the side of her house up 6 feet to the bird, took the blanket from the top of the cage and opened the door and took the bird.
She called the police who did finger print her balcony but they said the chances of the bird being returned are very slim.
We are worried about his bird and her treatment.
Does any one have any ideas as to how to look for this bird. We are very very worried that who ever took her may not care for her properly.
Ideas Please...

Thanks so very much Truly!
Holly

Posted by: Holly | June 19, 2008 09:31 AM

;) Hi Amanda!

I'm not sure which part of my message was condescending, but I find it amusing that anyone would take offense to my quite carefully worded comment!

I was a shelter worker for many years, so I understand exactly what you're saying. The problem with euthanasia is that once we euthanize one feral cat population, more feral cats move in. This is well documented.

Many birds in Hawaii are under serious threat from loose cats. I personally know several organizations that trap and euthanize feral cats regularly.

The problem is that it is perfectly legal for residents to bring more cats into the area and let them outdoors. It is a revolving door - kill hundreds of cats, more breed. More ferals. More endangered species get killed off.

The money and resources should be spent in a massive government campaign to make people keep cats indoors. As a biologist I am extremely upset that cats are killing wild animals. But how can we be angry at the cats when we allow hundreds when hundreds more to be let outside every day?

Just my two cents. ;)

Posted by: Maya, CVT | June 19, 2008 10:49 AM

this is horrible i dont understand why petsmart cant be shut down

Posted by: michelle | June 19, 2008 01:46 PM

But Maya, wouldn't the same thing happen when you trap, socialize and adopt ferals? If the space is free, regardless of the fate of the cats removed from it, more cats will move in, yes? I just don't understand your reasoning. I apologize if I was wrong, but your comments frequently seem judgemental of those who euthanize animals likely to meet a miserable end and cause the same for others. It would be great if the government would force everyone to keep their cats indoors from now to eternity, but I'm not going to hold my breath and I don't think it's fair to say there's one best solution to the crisis right now, in my opinion. I'm glad you have a method you're comfortable with, but so do I and nothing you've said so far has changed my mind.

Posted by: Amanda | June 19, 2008 02:49 PM

I HAVE TO AGREE THAT IT WAS QUITE CRUEL TO WATCH AND FILM THESE EVENTS AND NOT CONTACT AN OUTSIDE AGENCY TO HELP THIS BIRD!
I REALIZE THAT THE PERSON INVESTIGATING TRIED TO BUY THE BIRD. WHEN THIS DID NOT WORK SOMETHING FURTHER SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. I HAVE A CAPTAIN'S MACAW THAT WAS A RESCUE FROM A BLACK MARKET SALE. HE HAS NEVER BEEN IN A CAGE AND ALTHOUGH I WISH HE COULD LIVE IN THE WILD AND BE TOTALLY FREE. HE IS CARED FOR AS A WILD BIRD SHOULD BE. PEOPLE THINK THAT BIRDS ARE UNFEELING ANIMALS ACTUALLY THEY HAVE QUITE THE PERSONALITY!

Posted by: Lillie Adams | June 19, 2008 03:06 PM

Why did the PETA investigator sit there for 6 weeks and watch the bird in the video die? If he cared so much and wanted to help so much he would have found a way to get the bird the treatment it needed. that was very compassionate of him to watch that poor, defenseless bird die right in front of him. Way to go PETA!!! Yeah, I would really trust my animals with you guys!!!

Posted by: Jim Dole | June 19, 2008 03:55 PM

Hi again Amanda ;)

I should emphasize that one of the shelters I worked at took in 11,500 animals and I euthanized at least 800 of them, not to save an endangered species, but because "Ms Smith is moving to Florida and does not want to take her cat with her".

What I'm trying to say is, I am absolutely not judging those who euthanize animals. I have done it myself many times and I completely agree that it is often the only realistic solution.

When I say that no one has the right to kill feral cats, I'm speaking more of us as a society, not as individuals. Someone who works in a shelter has no choice.

But look at our government. They are extremely corrupt, wasting our money, starting wars and letting America rot in hell.

The education campaigns for spay and neutering have been highly effective. If all animal orgs plus the government began a massive keep cats indoors campaign, eventually it would work.

I totally agree with you that at this point it's not reality, I think it would be a huge mistake to not at least try to begin the process.

Animal shelters should be for strays only and feral cats should at least have a chance at being indoor cats. I have a small stray cat shelter myself, so I know how difficult it is.

But we should act right this second as though we are trying to save all feral cats - and if we can't, that's okay. I just wish we wouldn't write them off so easily.

;)

Posted by: Maya, CVT | June 19, 2008 03:57 PM

Ok then, Maya, we agree. Glad we got that cleared up:)

Posted by: Amanda | June 19, 2008 08:19 PM

i am turning this into the police and pet smart will be out of bunisss i will come over there and through you on a wwall you are dumb and stuoied i hope you dieeee!

Posted by: valerie | June 19, 2008 09:26 PM

Angel's cries just tore my heart out! Shame on RWE for caring more for their reputation than caring for Angel. What a grave injustice to that innocent baby who should never have been caged in the first place!

Posted by: lynda downie | June 19, 2008 11:38 PM

I'm horrified by the video and the reality that these chain stores are buying their animals from breeding mills. However, there are almost 30 posts here about how horrible this is and not a single one telling people where to get a safe animal or how to look for one. The tragedy of Angel was apparent in the vid, now how about arming the public with safe, sound alternatives to purchasing animals? Just a thought...

Posted by: Cale Johnson | June 20, 2008 07:39 AM

I agree with some of the above, they should have taken the bird to safety.
The question is, had they done so, would they have been charged as a "terrorist" under the AETA act just as the SHAC 7 were?
Thats scarey!

Posted by: CB | June 20, 2008 08:17 AM

I was sooo saddened by the fate of that baby bird. How cruel petsmart is to treat their animals like that. They need to be stopped NOW. The fate of these animals depend on us. I couldn't even watch the whole video and the sound of her cries still haunts and makes me want to cry. Let's unite and stop this suffering!! Peace :)

Posted by: Kelly | June 20, 2008 09:36 AM

I couldn't watch the whole video either and i'm SO ANGRY right now i'm shaking.

Posted by: Nat | June 20, 2008 02:14 PM

I just read the story on angel the cockatoo who died at petsmart and was wondering why didnt the investigator from peta save the bird instead of watching it die? I am a peta supporter and always will be but why didnt they save the poor thing?

Posted by: darcy | June 20, 2008 02:29 PM

that is so sad...i wonder myself why anything wasn't done...i myself bought a pet from Petco last august....a beautiful Russian blue rat....yes a rat! i didn't know about the cruelty then...but i do now..peanut is one of the most spoiled rats out there, and I'm glad to have gotten him out of there if that's how they treat their animals.And, rats really are misunderstood....he's so sweet and hasnt bitten anyone, in fact if he's just woken up he lets me pet him for like ever and he almost acts like a little dog!

Posted by: sarah | June 20, 2008 06:10 PM

I THINK IT IS SHAMEFUL TO ALLOW THAT BIRD TO SUFFER TO SUCH EXTENT ALL ALONE IN WIRES WITH A SAD CRY WITHOUT SAVING ITS LIFE. I DO NOT THINK IT WAS WORTH WATCHING IT DIE TO MAKE A STATEMENT VIDEO AGAINST THIS PETSMART SUPPLIER. THIS BIRD WAS USED FOR SHOW? VERY DISAPPOINTING FOR THIS INVESTIGATION. THE BIRD'S CRIES SUFFERING AND LIFE WAS USED AS A TOOL FOR PETA?!

Posted by: linda canley | June 23, 2008 05:13 PM

You would think the people who work at bird breeding facilities would at least know how to properly care for a bird. You don't flush it's crop out with water, you leave it in a brooder,not a cage, and you must feed it regularly and make sure it has a heat source. And you DO NOT pick it up by the head!!! Now I think I know why most of the birds I see in pet stores look sick.

Posted by: Budgie lover | June 24, 2008 11:44 AM

The woman who filmed the incident would NOT have been able to rescue the bird. She would have either been tackled by staff or by police, as she would have been technically stealing from Rainbow Exotics.

Next time you're in a store, try stealing something and see how far you get. It's illegal. There is no way the woman would have been left unsupervised long enough to get out with the bird.

The 1 percent chance she had of saving the bird was not worth giving up the 100 percent chance she had of showing the evil that is Rainbow Exotics.

Don't you dare blame her for trying her best to save animal's lives. I'm sure it was more heartbreaking for her than we can ever imagine.

Posted by: Maya, CVT | June 24, 2008 11:59 AM

The baby bird was dieing a little more with each feeding. It would have been possible for the person who was undercover to research and then tell the inexperienced feeders who did not know what the baby needed, how to feed this baby properly which may have saved its life.
That's what I would have done, and if that did not work, I do think I would have insisted it be seen by a vet and not stopped with the feeders but called supervisors etc.

Go Vegan Save up to 100 farm animals per year per person...

Posted by: Holly | June 24, 2008 01:39 PM

Hi Holly!

From what I understand, the undercover agent begged the woman in charge to let her take the bird to a vet, and the woman in charge said absolutely not. It's not surprising since Rainbow Exotics would not want to be exposed to veterinary scrutiny.

In my assessment, I think the only way to save that bird would be for it to see a vet, as you correctly said, it was so far gone already.

Let's hope that place gets shut down, and quickly!

Vegan all the way, sister. See you on the blogs! ;)

Posted by: Maya, CVT | June 24, 2008 04:28 PM

Maryland, Pennsylvania, Delaware.

Her name is Angel.
Angel is much loved and we are very worried.
She is an Umbrella Cockatoo White.
Age 37 years old.

$1000.00 Cash reward for her return. No questions asked.

She was taken from her home on June 18th from

RockSpring Road
Conowingo Maryland.

Not far from Port Deposit Md. Lancaster Pa. and Delaware.

Please if anyone hears anything or sees anything or knows anything please send messages to Janis,

nightnurse66@hotmail.com

$1000.00 cash reward no questions asked for Angels return.

Thanks so very much for your great help. We are so very worried about Angel...

Taken from a porch June 18th.
$1000.00 cash reward for the birds safe return.

Posted by: Holly | June 24, 2008 05:46 PM

Thanks Maya,
I do understand, just seems to me that someone could have done something. Heck in my younger years, I would have pocked the baby! and I know that too would have been wrong. Sad story for sure.
Again Maya you remind me of a young Terry Irwin, before Steve. Keep of the good work!

Go Vegan, save up to 100 farm animals per person per year!

Posted by: Holly | June 24, 2008 07:38 PM

Actually, in Lake County here, the only problems we have basically are drinkers, noisy neighborhoods, stealers, pornography, tieing up dogs and more. All the stores and people are nice, otherwise.

Posted by: Anna | June 27, 2008 06:20 PM

This is horrible! No animal deserves to be treated like this. These are very sick people to do this.

BUT what concerns me is for some one to go "undercover" so they can see whats going on and not do any thing but record and collect evidance is sick too. Its not ant better than what they are doing.

I watch these videos here and it makes my angry to see the conditions these animals have to live in. Then i relize the person behind the camera basicly records thier DEATH, that makes my blood boil. Recordbecause you need proof but letting them go without help is no better than what petsmart does. You make me sick.

Posted by: Chris | June 28, 2008 07:38 AM

Actually I work at petsmart and we don't get our birds sick...Dumb thought. And the psittacosis doesn't affect humans, we just carry it. So it affects other birds who come in contact. Which is why we use PPE(personal protective equipment) when handeling them. And every animal. Your PETA people didn't. So y'all are the guilty ones.

Posted by: kim | July 2, 2008 02:26 PM

kim-good for you. you don't get your birds sick? nice, they just suffer and die at the mill before you have a chance to get the sick ones. you must be proud of petsmart!
why would you even try to defend them....ignorance?

Posted by: Craig | July 2, 2008 07:17 PM

I must say Angel's video was very hard to watch. I;ve been an animal lover all my life and have had birds for the last 10 years. I will not cage birds as so many do, instead I have a large planted indoor aviary that I keep some smaller waxbills in. I have bought most my waxbills from PetSmart (actually just bought 2 more yesterday from there), although I just found this site this morning. The ones I have bought there had slight problems (nothing major or life threatening though). I am a sucker for any animal in distress, and as such I tend to buy that type and bring them back to their proper condition, not to mention they are much happier in their new home than cramped in a small cage and combined with other speicies they shouldnt be housed with. I will say that for the most part the PetSmarts in my area seem to care pretty well for their animals (who knows what goes on in the backrooms though). However, after seein ths information my Petsmart bird purchases will end. I order all my food and supplies from small specialty stores anyways. Only reason I bought birds from Petsmart is because they are the only ones in my area that sell any kind of selection (waxbills just arent real popular here).

A side note on the PETA investigator. First off let me say I have nothing against PETA and they do some very good work and have saved alot of animals and I whole-heartedly commend them for what they do. However, in the case of Angel, it does not surprise me that nothing was done (or little was attempted) to save her. PETA can be somewhat radical in their endevours just like any other organization. That video surved a purpose and would not have been nearly as powerful had the bird been saved and lived a healthy life. An attempt had to be mentioned by PETA for their own purposes but the fact that Angel died served the PETA organization more than saving Angel herself. If it had been me I would have stopped the whole thing and kill the report to do everything I could to save her, but then I would not be an investigative reporter to PETA at the point either...it isn't what they needed for what they got. It's a far more powerful video to know Angel suffered horribly for 36 days and died, than to watch that video and at the end have a happy ending...it doesn't stick with people as well, for as long that way. I despise what happened to Angel, and would have even gone so far as to try to steal her in the dead of night if necessary (and happily present the evidence to the judge as to why), but again the video would not be as powerful. Even with PETA sacrifices have to be made to present the reason for their existence and sadly Angel had to be one of those sacrifices.

Posted by: Branden | July 3, 2008 09:02 AM

Kim, I'm not sure I understood your statement correctly, but are you implying that psittacosis does not make people sick?

Acutally it causes severe pneumonia, sometimes fatal. Ask any docotr. Are the Petsmart bigwigs lying to the staff? That's brilliant.

Posted by: Maya, CVT | July 3, 2008 12:37 PM

Kim, I'm not sure I understood your statement correctly, but are you implying that psittacosis does not make people sick?

Acutally it causes severe pneumonia, sometimes fatal. Ask any doctor. Are the Petsmart bigwigs lying to the staff? That's brilliant.

Posted by: Maya, CVT | July 3, 2008 12:37 PM

For all of those asking, “Why didn’t they do anything to help Angel?” Apparently you are unfamiliar with how an undercover investigation works. I’ll give you a minute to take careful note of the “undercover” part. Anywhere an investigator goes, wrongdoing is found (it’s inevitable at these places).

If the investigator were to say, “Hey! I’m an undercover investigator and I’m telling on you!” Do you think that would help? The USDA already does nothing to protect animals in these types of facilities so sadly evidence is needed otherwise it’s just pointing fingers which will lead to nothing.

In this case, the investigator did all she could. She reported it to the owner and numerous employees on several different occasions. She even asked if she could buy Angel or just take the sick bird to a vet – which the owner laughed at. If the investigator would have just taken the bird, that would have been considered theft. Unfortunately the law doesn’t protect these animals as it should and investigations are a necessity and an essential way to see behind the walls what no one wants you to see. My heart goes out to all the investigators putting themselves in the most abhorrent conditions everyday to save the little guys so many people don’t care about.

Posted by: Marissa | July 10, 2008 04:24 AM

how cruel are you to these animals? wait i dont have to ask that because i know your extremely cruel to animals. there not the ones who are vicious, you are petscruel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: monica fushiki | July 23, 2008 09:51 AM

I bought my little Westie from Petland. Thank heaven that she was there only a few days before I bought her!

I doubt she was bred in a puppy mill because the worker there showed the papers proving that her breeder was a vet from MO.

Hopefully, I can do some undercover work myself. :-)

Posted by: Mary | July 25, 2008 06:27 PM

I used to work for pets at home (who bought out petsmart in the UK). several times the birds go psittacosis and had to be destroyed. to be fair, many of the staff have the animals best interests at heart, but are forced by the company to spend more time stacking shelves etc etc, instead of tending to the animals. when the fish arrived (from JMC aquatics), they were poorly introduced into the aquaria with other fish. any aquarist knows that fish should be quarantined, as newly acquired fish are very prone to disease. to make matters worse, the new fish are sold that very day! also, when dead fish are returned under the 7 day guarantee,no water test is performed on the owners tank water. therefore we would never know if we were inadvertantly selling fish to a toxic tank and an early grave.

Posted by: Rich | August 10, 2008 12:07 PM

For a chain store like Petsmart,they are not very petsmart at all,they should stick to selling pet products only and let someone else sell the animals,they do not know much about it,change your teaching to your help or close down.

Posted by: Ted Whalen | August 23, 2008 08:00 PM

posted by monica fushiki: "I bought my little Westie from Petland. Thank heaven that she was there only a few days before I bought her!

I doubt she was bred in a puppy mill because the worker there showed the papers proving that her breeder was a vet from MO.

Hopefully, I can do some undercover work myself. :-)"

monica, your westie was most likely produced in a puppy mill, despite what her papers said. if she was bred by a reputable breeder, she absolutely would NOT have been sold in a pet store. by buying and "saving" this poor little puppy mill puppy, you have encouraged both the pet store and the mill to produce more "poor little puppies" for people to rescue. while you may have done some good for your westie, you have done little else but perpetuate the problem of puppy mills and pet stores. and for the record, i am an animals rights supporter, however i am NOT a supporter of PETA.

Posted by: Liz | August 28, 2008 11:14 AM

Actually... We have an opportunity to reject birds we do not think are to our standards. Most pet stores like the mom and pop shops dont even know HOW to fix these animals. We stopped carrying birds to solve the problem. We also transferred foods to specific medicated food and water treatment to solve this problem. We never had a severe case, except cockatiels which are still not being carried b/c they are the true carriers. We also spend usually over $500 on animals at Banfield to treat and care for them. If you want to vent about animals... Talk petco. There aviary is a closed in room with very little human contact and a small A/C unit. I used to volunteer at the SPCA there before working at Petsmart. Also, they can't tell if their hamsters have WT or anything.

My store has a very big group of people in Pet Care who WILL treat the animals and if we can't we put them down. Only in horrible conditions do we do that. And it is very rare to be affected if anything you'll just get Chlamydia! Which I'm sure you and your moronic PETA friends have.

Maybe the stores you've visited have horrible staff and employees. But my store is very educated and determined to solve the problems and spend big bucks which most corporations don't.

So go suck it.

PS: WE HAVE NEVER SOLD RABBITS OR ANY KIND OF BUNNY. SAME WITH FEEDER MICE OR RATS. IT IS COMPLETELY 200% AGAINST OUR POLICY.

Posted by: Kim...Again | August 29, 2008 10:37 PM

i want to be an actavist aggianst these things

Posted by: morgan | August 30, 2008 02:58 PM

I would just like to say that I am a Petsmart employee, and I disagree with a lot of things that are being said here.

At Petsmart, we have very strict policies about the treatment of animals. Yes, some of the policies aren't as great as they should be (such as the introduction of unquarentined fish into the aquatics systems), however, we also have a lot of great policies. For example, every bird and small animal that comes into the store to be sold is quarentined for a minimum of a week, and if there are any medical problems, the animals are brought to the vet and treated as quickly as possible.

Do not take your hatred out on Petsmart. Instead, try to solve the problem by looking at the root of it; the breeders and "animal mills". We are doing a good thing by raising millions of dollars for pet charities, and by informing customers to the best of our abilities. Also, we have the right to refuse the sale of an animal to any customer. How many other chain pet stores do that?

I always go the extra mile to make sure our animals are well taken care of. And I'm sure almost every other Petsmart associate out there is doing the same thing.

Posted by: Courtney | September 10, 2008 12:23 AM

GO LIZ! They dont see our side, they will never know how great our store treats our animals. They find the worst stores and blame all of us, when its really a Petco

Posted by: kim | September 22, 2008 01:03 AM

Is that a video from the Ranibow supplier, because that doesn't look like a store facility.

Posted by: unknown | September 23, 2008 09:44 AM

I feel so sad for Angel. And I as an animal lover felt disgusted to what what happened to Angel. It was the employee's fault and the owners fault who didnt want to sell the bird to the investigator. I wish that that Agel could've lived a longer life, way way longer up to 70+ and she died at 4months, that is really sad I have two parakeets one a wild one, but we tamed him and hes the smallest sweetest thing and a girl we bought her from petssmart, but we dont know if she was neglected by any employees, perhaps maybe thats why sometimes she acts in a mean way to our other parakeet boy. but i really do love them both so much and i hate to even see an animal i dont even know die, that makes me really sad, and it makes me think about how much i love my animals, my two parakeets and my german shepherd so much and how much they need to be protected and feel safe with us humans, no scared or annoyed of us, i really wish that there was no such thing as animal cruelty, but the world is not perfect, there are good and bad people out there, and animals cant speak like us, they dont tell us theyre being neglected its out duty to help them, not to torture them. I love animals so so much :)

Posted by: alexis | September 26, 2008 10:16 PM

It breaks my heart to see how the birds are treated at PetSmart. I enjoy sharing my home with rescued zebra finches and cockatiels and one budgie from a local pet shop that was irresistible. When I go into Petsmart all I want to do is buy all of the birds. It takes everything I have not to encourage this horrible place. I went in there recently and there was a hand-fed sun conure basically having panic attacks because it was all alone. The zebra finches were overcrowded into a cage and there were only a couple of females to probably 12 males. Some of them were on the ground with injuries. The doves were crammed into a cage and some of them were roosting in the feed cup because there was not enough space on the perch. And don't get me started on the parakeets. It's as though because they are so easily attained that people forget that the budgie is one of the smartest and most emotional birds out there. Honestly though I suppose it'd be better for them to live in a crowded cage than to be purchased by a parent on a whim and then sit in a cage alone for the rest of its life. Anyway, just venting here. When I complained to the management at Petsmart I was told that they take sick birds to the back for treatment. I asked her why then were there finches on the ground all puffed up and close to death. She said that she'd have someone take a look. I've been going in there for two weeks and the same birds are still plucked and sick. I can't stand it.

Posted by: Susan | October 3, 2008 12:44 PM

God oh god! It's idiots like these that make me wish the human race NEVER existed! You know the world was in peace till humans came in. No cruelty (except in hunting), no fights, and love was shown all around, but then WE showed up and there was no such thing as peace AT ALL!!!

Posted by: Abby | October 15, 2008 04:26 PM

I wish I could have 5 minutes with that Animal Abuser who did that to the poor bird. I would love for her to tell me how it fill's having a tube stuck and forced down your throat and being force fed well dying! I can't believe these people have no hearts at all and see what they do to these animal's and they dont care for the pain they go threw! I hope this is stopped and soon!

Posted by: Krystal | November 23, 2008 07:17 PM

This is just wrong i cant belive anyone would do that but human beings are cruel. Angel looked like she was in alot of pain and they didnt care. I stopped buying from petsmart awhile ago but my aunt wont stop or my cousin they dont believe any of it. They dont believe in anything to do with the animals cruelty stuff. like im a vegitarian becasue i saw what happens to the animals but they dont believe that. PETA has really changed my life and i know im saving animals now.

Posted by: Terrianna | December 15, 2008 06:00 PM

Petsmart does not treat their animals badly. If you have such an issue talk to rainbow.

Posted by: Brittany | December 22, 2008 06:53 PM

Poor Angel! RIP you poor bird.
My bird is a cockatiel and has free range of the house and can fly anywhere she wants.she gets her cage cleaned all the time and gets plenty of excersice and is well known that she is very loved! I just took her to the vet for a complete physical and found out that she is in great health. The vet bill was $247.50 so if you think that birds are cheap think twice.If you adopt treat them the same way you treat your kids! LOVE THEM!

Posted by: Stephannie | December 29, 2008 03:34 PM

i have a 1yo community Finch as of this morning she is acting a little sick .her eyes are open as normal .she is eating and drinking .she has no dearer but she stays in one place for some times with her feathers puffed up she also seams the be having a hard time flying but she can get up on the perches.her breathing is a a little heavy .and she is not breathing with her mouth open .about 4 days age she had 3 eggs and the male and her was trading off sitting time on the eggs.so i know she is not binding .yesterday i got some hay from the pet store and put it in the cage .i do not know it this has anything to do with it .out side of her sitting around and with her puffed up feathers she seams to be ok.what should i do i am worried about her , i also have raped a heating pad around one of the corners of the cage for extra heat.

can you help me in this matter

thank you mike f

Posted by: mike falcioni | January 7, 2009 01:33 PM

i was only able to watch the first moments of the video. the sight of the baby birds struggle plus the sounds... i am a wuss, i know... i burst into tears and couldn't watch the rest.

Posted by: jeanneadele | January 12, 2009 09:05 PM

Not really
Petsmart's fault the animals are sold in bad condition like you say, it's more of the supplier's fault. If you're going to blame anyone, blame them.

Posted by: Micheal | January 17, 2009 09:59 PM

My love bird died without warning or even to appear sick. She just fell of her perch and was dead, she was six years old, my husband and I really loved that bird. Does anyone know why a lovebird would die so suddenly?

Posted by: Barbara | February 2, 2009 02:35 PM

I can't stop crying how could someone allow this to happen? how can some1 treat an animals with such disregard?
I will NEVER shop at pet smart again they should be called "pet killers r us"

Posted by: DANNIELLE | February 2, 2009 05:20 PM

I don't think I have ever been so mad , and angry ! That poor little bird Angel, did not need to die. If I had been filming this , or worked at this pet store. I would have called a television station and have gotten that bird to a vet. I probably would have just taken the bird, and then taken the bird to vet. I know stealing isn't right, but you don't let a helpless animal suffer like that! I would have mailed them the money for the bird. I'm sorry, but letting a por little bird suffer like that, is just plain, wrong, wrong wrong !

Posted by: Carol marshall | February 27, 2009 09:29 PM

May God have taken the pain from this little soul before it became too great. I hope that people suffer the same pain the instilled on the animals on the day of judgment. PETA, don't stop what you're doing. You ARE making a difference.

Posted by: Jackie | March 13, 2009 11:36 PM

that is one of the most sick events of animal care i have ever seen. how disturbing!!!! if you dont care for animals or even like them why do you work for a pet store? angels video was so upseting i could not even finish watching it!!!!people that handle animals like that make me sick!!!

Posted by: dawn | March 19, 2009 12:45 AM

What is WRONG with these people!!!??? >:( I think that they are VERY stupid, idiotic, lazy, ugly, CRUEL, thick-headed, and every other mean name in the dictionary! Yes, I'm talking to the evil brainless people who did/do this to poor birds and other animals!!! Oh yes, I went there! If one of you lazy jerks who does this to animals are reading this, get a life!!!!!! Animals should be respected and cared for just as "special" humans are. >:(

Animals don't cheat, lie, steal, or commit crimes like humans do! And yet somehow, we think we're better than they are. Ha! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

I thank all of those who have the brains and heart enough to know that this is wrong. And i stare down at those filthy people who don't care about animals. Disgusting. >:(

Anyway, I really do hope that this is STOPPED once and for all!!! And yes, I believe that it will stop some day. So guess what? For all those cruel people out there, your evil days are OVER!

Thanks and sorry for such a long rant; people who are cruel to animals are so numb!!!(literally)

Posted by: Reeses | March 19, 2009 01:58 PM

this will always haunt me and its so sad for the poor thing

Posted by: peter yannakoureas | April 1, 2009 07:07 PM

Someone PLEASE write a letter to the president on banning exotic animals i think the time is right on people not being able to afford such luxurys.SOMEONE PLEASE WRITE , I will but i think it would be best for other people to write as well.People who know how to get their point across in a professional manner.!!!!!!!PLEASE PEOPLE these animals need people to speak for them ,We HAVE TO BE THEIR VOICE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rachel primeau | April 7, 2009 03:43 AM

i've read many of the responses posted here. and i a see everyone here loves birds. i hoping some one can help me. i've had my cockatiel, cupid, for almost 5 yrs. he's always been healthy. about 4 weeks ago he started to get sick and i took him to his vet and was told he was born with chlymida and is just showing symptoms now. he started getting injections once a week(needs 2 more) and ever since he's been sick not acting like him self. then on sat night he started having what i believe to be seizures, multiple times but the last one was very bad and very scary. he got very stiff and struggled for air. i rushed him to the emergency animal hospital were they kept him over night and did blood work. he also had what he hospital called "episodes" but would not call them seizures because their not sure. all blood work was normal. he came back home on sun and seemed fine but tonight seemed to have a few "episodes" (not very bad) but once i put my hand on him he stops. the doctors have no answers for me and im very nervous for him. does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Posted by: crystal Tuske | April 8, 2009 12:40 AM

My wife has a sun conure and it is a female. Wife is on vacation and the bird has laid 2 eggs in the last week. Usually they are found on the bottom of the cage. I just remove them. Well today she laid her second egg and now she is trying to sit on the egg.
This is a first, no she has not mated.
What should I do?
Ron

Posted by: Ron Bainbridge | April 9, 2009 07:33 PM

I own a bird and it has free run of my house did not buy it from petco lucy has been my buddy for 5 years with no health problems

Posted by: michael moore | April 16, 2009 11:42 PM

Dear readers, I am writing and asking for help. I am a new owner of a beautiful female canary I named Magenta. I purchased her from a local pet store named L&M pets in Hudson NY. The woman behind the counter told me to put corn or vegetable oil in magenta's seed ( food) to help her pass her eggs easier. I didn't know any better because I have never owned a canary before. I gave Magenta about 1/8 tsp. ( Not even) in her food. She has become sick. Her eyes on her right side has closed, swollen shut, and crust has formed in the area. Her left eye is starting to do the same. You can tell she is sick. She is off balance, and she is having trouble breathing. Its breaking my heart. I hear her whimper as she is trying to sleep. I have called every vet in my area and even out of my area. They only treat Dogs and cats. I am at a loss. I love this tiny bird. Can someone give me advice that will work to help my poor Magenta?

Posted by: Kelli | April 17, 2009 12:21 AM

I went to a PETCO for the first time yesterday. They had one sweet little bird in a glass cage that was so desperate to be handled. I was unaware that Petco had live animals, just thought they supplied food, etc. After reading these posts, I am so disgusted I went to this store and feel so terribly for the bird. I really wanted to buy her and get her out of there - but then they'd just get another, and another. She is in a lose-lose situation.

Posted by: margaret | April 23, 2009 09:04 AM

First, this is not at a petsmart, and second they are not flushing angels crop they are feeding her. Is every animal, or even person born healthy no they are not. Some times there is nothing you can do to save a life

Posted by: aannee | April 23, 2009 09:04 PM

first of all this is cruelty
how ever you look at it,if you think that this women is feeding it then why did she handel this bird so rough when she knows that angel is sick and why did she not get the bird some help thinking that she can handel it,i came across this site because i was looking for a avian dr. and this is what i found it's
discusting she should be hung from her toes the little thing was sick she was to
cheap to get a avian vet.i love my bird cocketiel pokey
i would not let anything happen to him that's why i was on the net.this is so
disterbing why did this envestigator not get any help
for angel and just watched and
let it die she's just as guilty.

Posted by: Edwarda | April 28, 2009 10:20 PM

that was sick and disturbing!
why the hell would anyone even think about doing that to an animal? im not a big fan of birds but i sure as hell would put aside my fear to help that poor baby! who ever would do that needs to be severly punished! no "well maybe she didnt know better." or "she was told to do that"."she knew exactly what she was doing and is a sick person!

Posted by: shayy | May 19, 2009 07:04 PM

i have a bird of my own and if you take care of the bird properly you wouldn't have ANY problems with it. my bird id just about to turn one

Posted by: alex | May 24, 2009 09:36 AM

The bird known as Angel was crying out for help. She should have been taken to the vet's. She needed proper care, love and the attention she deserved. This is wrong... when a bird cries out like that... please tell me something is being done to stop the cruelty.

Posted by: Tracy B. | May 26, 2009 09:46 PM

The dumbest part of all this was recording this to the end with NO HELP for the poor bird. Just plain dumb! We got the picture we just 2-5 minutes of the video. Now, was it necessary to wait until she killed the bird?..NO! Just as cruel as
Petsmart or whoever else. Just wrong..Plain wrong. If the caretakers refused to give it adequate attention when asked by the undercover one, in that moment he or she should of split with the poor bird and taken it to get some help. I don't think the caretaker if you can call it that would have been so dumb to go claim it knowing she would have gotten charged with animal cruelty. I personally own an amazon which I love as one of my children. She has been with our family for many years and gets treated as one.She sings and plays all day as she knows she is loved. Now,I will never buy another bird knowing what I do today after years of reading. I'm just so glad for my baby been alright and happy as this is not the case for almost all others..Sad..very sad.

Posted by: Addie | May 27, 2009 07:37 PM

I do not understand how he person working under cover could have stood there and done nothing for so long. That bird was SCREAMING in pain! I would have broken its neck. It was going to die anyway. It should have been put out of its misery instead of having to suffer like that.

Posted by: Ellie | June 12, 2009 05:42 PM

I bought my parakeet from PETSMART and is still alive today!

Posted by: mary | June 13, 2009 12:10 PM

This is out of our hands, this is only for money and not love tender care the same way you would care for your love ones. Please if you need some help in South Africa I thin a lot of my fellow friends will be glad to help.

The lady for doing_recording the video you are fantastic

love to you all>>>>

Posted by: Elsa Roux | June 16, 2009 03:01 PM

stephanie- THAT WAS SOOOOO MEAN HOW COULD ANYONE DO THAT TO A POUR INNOCENT ANIMAL?? I CANT BELIEVE ANYONE COULD DO THAT!!()_()
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(")(")

mariana-UHHHHG MEANI ROBOT SICKOOOS UGH IMA EAT YOUR BRAINS AND VETS ARE NICE PEOPLE THAT DESERVE A VIST EVERY ONCE IN AWILE JEEZ THEY NEED FRIENS OKOKOKOKO OMG I LIKE TYPING THAY OKOKOKOKOKOKOKO SEE ITS FUN TRY IT OKOKOKO O O WAT WAS MY POIINT O YEA MEANIS GET A LIFE BYE!!

Posted by: stephanie and mariana | July 6, 2009 10:50 PM

i fill so sorry
for that bird

Posted by: veronica | July 10, 2009 03:38 PM

This makes me sick. I have a Goffin's, and it really hits home. Personally, I bought from an at home breeder, who taught me on hand everything about taking care of my baby, and if anything every should happen, I got every method of communication from them, fax, pager, cell, house, email. I'm not against these beautiful creatures being kept as pets, they bring so much joy to our lives, as we bring joy to theirs. If you can properly take care of a bird, have a large cage, plenty of stimulation, and tons of 'out' time, they are amazing pets. I myself will be investing in bird flights as soon as I have money, as I would love for my babies to be able to experience that freedom. At least in captivity they don't have to worry about being poisoned, shot, poached, hunted, or eaten. I can't speak for every owner out there, as I know of some rather horrid cases, but most birds receive great care, vet visits, access to fresh water and food whenever they need it. You can really tell when they're happy, and when they aren't. I just wish people knew how to take care of them. They aren't just some run of the mill little pet, they require so much care, and since they are exotic, higher bills. I am sad to see so many of these beautiful animals wind of in shelters, abused and unloved. Adoption is always the best policy, but sometimes it's just not feasible. One day I hope to have a rescue facility for all kinds of animals, so they may live out their days in peace, somewhere they never have to worry about getting beaten, or hoping they get fed again.

Posted by: Anon. | September 24, 2009 04:46 AM

I couldn't watch anymore It was horrible and broke my heart.
What are they doing about this?
It has to stop now!

Posted by: Catherine M Arsenault | October 13, 2009 03:08 PM

I accidently came upon this, because my sister just had a sun conure die that she bought at a Petsmart in Chicago, she had it apporx. 7 weeks. She took it to the vet they said it appeared to be a bacterial infection. Poor little Angel, all that suffering for what??? My heart just broke watching that and the cries from litte Angel actually freaked my Cockateil out!!! His feathers are still ruffled and standing straight he looks like he is in shock from listening to this horror! They should be shut down!! I don't know how the person that filmed this didn't run with that baby, they have more strength than I could ever have!!

Posted by: Maggie | October 25, 2009 01:32 PM

i am an animal lover and i love to be around animals and observe them. And that next week im going to petco to by 2 bird; but when i buy animals i would rather buy animals that are hand raised and cared and treated propaly.

animals like the pets that people buy should not be sold to people, because they may be endangered animals; just like most birds that we buy are.

and animals that are shiped to none native lands to be sold; are/is baddest choise ever, because if your pet has esscaped from your house and is some where outside serching for food or looking for a place to live or..... it might die if it wounders off too much, because it might not be able to survive in an environment that its body can't handel. or it can harm the environment by produsing offspring which then your pet and its offspring could harm the environment that is not native to it; examle: eating every thing, at a point of [lets say] extinction

Posted by: samantha | December 24, 2009 06:37 PM