Jan11
PETA Suggests Vegetarian Diet for Suspected Cannibal
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It’s just a suggestion of course, but I think it makes sense that a dude who’s been accused of cooking and eating someone should be put on a flesh-free diet. Or as PETA VP Bruce Friedrich puts it, “If people are revolted by the idea of eating a human corpse, they should also lose their appetites at the thought of eating the flesh of other tortured victims.” You can read Bruce’s letter to the Texas prison where accused murderer Christopher Lee McCuin is being held here.

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Good point!! Captain Pinkerton should take great pleasure in feeding Mr."Coward" McCuin a vegetarian diet! Since this person craves meat so much at least his last days will be a healthy one!!
Posted by: Carla | January 11, 2008 12:13 PM
Unfortunately people don't make the connection that flesh is flesh no matter the source (bovine, human, feline, and all of the other creatures, herbivores in particularly). What people cut into at breakfast, lunch and dinner is flesh from suffering animals that had been slaughtered in the most violent and painful manner. HUMANE SLAUGHTER IS AN OXYMORON!!!! So to the hypocrites that are calling this man a monster or who are aghast at his actions in reference to his late girlfriend, you do the same daily to the other animals that you you eat and wear. We are all connected....
Posted by: Ana | January 11, 2008 12:22 PM
You have no right to impose your values and beliefs on other people. This is a blatant violation of the rights of Mr. McCuin, despite the crimes that he has been accused of. Your organization could face legal action if this imposition were to go through.
Posted by: axxis | January 11, 2008 12:27 PM
You have no right to impose your values and beliefs on other people. This is a blatant violation of the rights of Mr. McCuin, despite the crimes that he has been accused of. Your organization could face legal action if this imposition were to go through.
Posted by: axxis | January 11, 2008 12:28 PM
This is a fantastic letter and a great way to grab attention for the vegetarian issue!
Eating meat is unhealthy and contributes towards cruelty to animals on the factory farm and in the slaughterhouse, which with if they had glass walls almost everyone would go vegetarian!
Posted by: John Carmody | January 11, 2008 12:56 PM
axxis: stop your aggression - PETA doesn't impose but propose!
Posted by: captain nemo | January 11, 2008 01:25 PM
This reinforces the notion that a vegetarian diet is a form of punishment
Posted by: jeff | January 11, 2008 01:57 PM
axxis, Give me a break!! Their just merely making a suggestion!
Posted by: Carla | January 11, 2008 01:58 PM
axxis, Give me a break!! Their just merely making a suggestion!
Posted by: Carla | January 11, 2008 02:03 PM
That article is disgusting!
Nice letter!
Posted by: K | January 11, 2008 02:29 PM
Oh, forgot to mention, maybe you could send him some Hufu.
Posted by: K | January 11, 2008 02:35 PM
I'm a PETA supporter but this is definitely a misstep on the part of your organization. To try and turn the murder and dismemberment of a woman into an attention getting device for vegetarianism is horrifying, and it makes PETA look completely inhumane, which is the opposite of what PETA stands for, correct?
Shame on you for trying to use the death of an innocent person to, as someone above put it, "grab attention for the vegetarian issue."
Posted by: Jessica Martin | January 11, 2008 02:36 PM
Axxis,
Please tell me where this prisoner had the right to eat anyone...I feel that when you have done such as this someone imposing a vegetarian diet upon you might be the least of your problems. I think it goes right along with proper punishment.......
Posted by: Dana | January 11, 2008 02:53 PM
There is plenty of room for God's creautures - right next to the mashed potatoes...
Posted by: Meat Eater | January 11, 2008 04:19 PM
I believe that this is one of the best ideas proposed by PETA. This man is a murderer, and enjoyed possible eating his victim. He shouldn't be allowed to kill and eat any other living thing for the rest of his life. I hope that the prison really takes some time and puts some thought into this great idea!!!
Posted by: lo | January 11, 2008 04:26 PM
I love animals and if you do not not believe in eating "flesh" then thats your right. But don't judge or condemn others because they don't share the same beliefs as you. Education is your best way to win people to your cause, not exploiting someone's tragic death for your own publicity.
Posted by: Free to live as we choose | January 11, 2008 04:27 PM
Wow. Do any of you realize how stupid that letter sounds?Do you realize man is supposed to eat meat, given the fact he not only has teeth for vegetation but also for tearing flesh? Omnivore my good people, look it up sometime.
Of course, this can be expected from the same organization who gave Micheal vick a pass simply cause he sat through 12 hours of animal cruelty classes.
Posted by: tyler | January 11, 2008 04:31 PM
Although I realize the letter was more of a publicity stunt than a real plea to put a particular inmate on a restricted diet, it seems obvious that the jail would not be allowed to do this. I know that jails have to adhere to dietary restrictions of inmates (such as kosher meals, no pork for Muslims, etc.) but they wouldn't be allowed to selectively place one person on a vegan diet based on his crime and the political decision by the administration to follow a letter from a lobbying and political action group. Which leads me to ask: Are letters like this actually a good way to get a point across? I mean, it seems like most of the attention-grabbing things PETA does are very easy to dismiss and don't really win anyone over. Giving out actual literature works. But do letters like this, that the targeted recipient clearly has to ignore, work? Is anyone going to stop eating meat just because you asked a jail administrator to do something he can't do?
Posted by: Ashes | January 11, 2008 04:36 PM
hm...well, I suggest just getting him off the humans first, then start on meat and all the other animal products. I also don't really think this is any business of PETA's; however good the idea is; I think the guy has enough to deal with already, besides people he doesn't even know trying to force him on what and what not to eat.
Posted by: Aneliese | January 11, 2008 04:41 PM
While I may agree that eating vegetarian is the better and healthier way to eat, I continue to be baffled by the reasoning that butchering animals for human consumption is some how equal to murdering a human. If animals are our equal then we all should be thrown into jail for smashing a cockroach or accidentally running over an unlucky squirrel in our cars (hit & run no less). As long as PETA insists that there is equality between animals and humans, the real story of eating healthy will never be heard.
Posted by: Reasonably Healthy | January 11, 2008 04:50 PM
Thank you once again PETA! By using a woman's brutal murder to garner attention for your cause, you've once again shown the rest of America what a bunch of psychopaths you all are.
To see how excited John Carmody was to gain attention from a brutal crime really puts into perspective the type of organization PETA is.
I bet you have some very good ideas, and some very good programs to help animals, and I LOVE animals. I'm not a hunter because I couldn't kill an animal. But I will never ever support PETA with as much as one dime, or even verbal support because you continually pull stunts like this.
And I'm not in a minority, that's pretty much how the rest of America feels about you. You have the same mindset as the terrorists in the middle east, you just don't blow things up. At least not most of you.
There is a food chain. Man is meant to eat meat as the previous comment explains. If you choose not to eat meat because you think it's cruel, that's completely your choice. But it's also every other human's choice if they decide to eat meat as man has done for the last however many years we've been on this planet.
And yes, until chickens and cows and fish can find a way to keep us in pens and kill us for our flesh, because they would if they could, I'm going to continue eating them. It's called survival of the fittest.
Posted by: Way to go PETA | January 11, 2008 04:51 PM
How ridiculous. Animals are not humans-they were created to be food for humans. All things are living whether it is animal or plant life. Does this mean we avoid animals and plants? Then we would stare. I consider the Bible to be the ultimate standard and even Christ ate meat (fish even). Although I do not approve of dog fighting or other forms of torture of any type of animal-a barbecue sandwiches is a great thing!!
Posted by: scs | January 11, 2008 04:52 PM
This is the most ridiculous letter/position I've ever seen, and the comments from the liberal left would be funny... if you people were kidding.
Posted by: Joel | January 11, 2008 04:56 PM
I've always found PETA to be on the cutting edge of flagrant stupidity, but this is a whole new level of ignorance.
The fact that PETA would attempt to make a parallel between the murder and dismemberment of a human being and the slaughter of animals that are grown to be used as food is as disgusting as it is irresponsible.
PETA - Pretty Evident, They're Asinine
Posted by: Darin | January 11, 2008 05:00 PM
This has to be about the dumbest thing i have ever read, well next to anything written by a left wing nut job. I enjoy eating my meats and my veggies, I have never seen a healthy looking vegan. What this psychopath might have done to his girlfriend should have no bearing on what he eats in prison. If it was a truly just system he would have been shot on sight and made into food for animals at the zoo, or is it wrong for animals to eat meat?
Posted by: Brian | January 11, 2008 05:01 PM
We can replace Mr. Bruce Friedrich's wife and daughter with rabbits or guppies since they are equivalent.
Posted by: Gary | January 11, 2008 05:02 PM
" I'm a PETA supporter but this is definitely a misstep on the part of your organization. To try and turn the murder and dismemberment of a woman into an attention getting device for vegetarianism is horrifying, and it makes PETA look completely inhumane, which is the opposite of what PETA stands for, correct?
Shame on you for trying to use the death of an innocent person to, as someone above put it, "grab attention for the vegetarian issue." "
No it makes you look like a bunch of nuts!
Posted by: Nick A | January 11, 2008 05:05 PM
What's up with this guy Friedrich? Does he have any self-control at all? He just can't seem to help making himself look like an absolute idiot with every issue he touches.
Posted by: Robert | January 11, 2008 05:08 PM
The VP is a nut. Your extremist views are hilarious to read on paper. I feel bad that you believe this BS that you're organization is pumping out to the world.
Animals may have senses, but what seperates them from humans is that they don't have a spirit. An animal is not reincarnated and once it dies it ceases to exist.
I have no problem with vegans, in fact I think there are many more health benefits to not eating meat than there are eating it. But if you really cared about life, start making a fuss about abortions. Then maybe people will begin to embrace your views. But honestly, how could you get so worked up about an killing an animal when doctors and mothers kill babies everyday.
Posted by: Meat Eater | January 11, 2008 05:10 PM
Thank God for PETA! They always provide me with a good laugh when I need it most...
Posted by: David | January 11, 2008 05:22 PM
Brian:
"I've never seen a healthy looking vegan." Hmmm. Ever seen Alicia Silverstone's ad?
And to those of you who suggest that we are "meant" to be "omnivores", I would just ask you to look at the TEETH of dogs/wolves/leopards and see how much they look like yours. Now, look at the teeth of cows/horses/goats/apes, all of whom eat vegetables. Ours look more like the latter. A carnivore's gut is short and straight; an herbivore's gut is long and convoluted. Ours are more like the latter. Over the years, we developed the ability to eat meat, yes, but we were never "meant" to do so. That evolved in the northern climes where vegetation became scarce.
As for this letter to the prison, what can I say except why? It's not going to make a bit of difference. I prefer actions that make an ACTUAL difference.
Posted by: Susannah S | January 11, 2008 05:25 PM
I love it when people say: You have no right to impose your values and beliefs on other people.
If this is so, no one should be allowed to comment or have any type of opinion, thought, belief...
I'm so tired of that argument. Please find another one that makes sense.
Posted by: Jaclyn | January 11, 2008 05:25 PM
In honor of Bruce's letter, I'm going to the grocery store in 45 minutes when I get off work.
When I get there, I'm going to the poultry section and buying a whole chicken.
I'm then going to go home and throw the entire chicken in the garbage.
And every time I read another publicity stunt like this, or hear about PETA trying to capitalize on tragedy, I will go to the grocery store, buy a whole chicken, and throw it away.
PETA will directly be contributing to the very senseless killing of an innocent animal every time it pulls something like this.
Posted by: Jay | January 11, 2008 05:25 PM
Ok first let me say the major difference between a vegetarian/vegan diet is we are not harming anyone..unlike meat eaters! The links are there the rain forest is being destroyed at a rapid pace...One of Global Warming’s main cause is cattle...so as long as a meat eating diet continues to harm others instead of just the person eating it there should be people out pushing vegetarian diets for sake of every child on this earth!!!! It is very selfish indeed when people will destroy the earth all for the taste of a piece of meat...............
Posted by: Dana | January 11, 2008 05:45 PM
Eating animals is NATURAL!
But wait - what that heck does that mean? If it means we're biologically predisposed to do it, then racism is natural as well. And patriarchy. And sexual aggression to the point of rape. And so on.
Not to mention that whatever "natural" means, there's nothing "natural" about keeping chickens in changes so small that their beaks have to be sliced off with a hot blade to prevent them from pecking each other to death under the stress. And so on.
Do animals have ANY moral status? If so, what should be done about these standard practices:
http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming.asp
Posted by: Mark | January 11, 2008 05:54 PM
As a member of the Shearer family (Jana is my first cousin), I am enraged that PETA would dare use this hurtful, agonizing situation to further their cause. I take great offense of PETA's use of the horrific murder of Jana to try and grab the headlines for themselves. Bruce Friedrich, you should be ashamed of yourself. My family has been through enough in the past week. If you have any sense of human dignity, you will retract your letter to the Tyler jail and put out an apology to the Shearer family immediately.
Posted by: Ginny Shearer Donovan | January 11, 2008 06:09 PM
Animals are not "slaughtered in the most violent and painful manner". That bit of PETA propoganda is just stupid, and completley ignorant. For example, bovine get a piston through the skull to knock them out. The air hammer does it so fast, they feel NOTHING! Quit with your lies, and disinformation already!
Posted by: Clint | January 11, 2008 06:10 PM
Wow. What a blatant publicity stunt at the expense of a family that has been devestated by tragedy. Regardless of the fact that animals are NOT humans and humans are NOT animals, this is about as low as I can imagine an organization can sink - using a horribly tragedy to politically grandstand. Just a quick question - exactly how many animals did PETA kill last year?
Posted by: spt | January 11, 2008 06:13 PM
This letter (though I hope it was written somewhat in jest) is perfectly representative of why most sane people think PETA is a radical, laughable organization. Equating human torture and canabilism with breakfast. Blaming people eating meat for the reason someone is depraved beyond belief. Not wonder nobody takes you seriously. By this insane reasoning EVERY SINGLE member of our society would be killing and eating their girlfriend because they like a good steak. Nice reasoning moron. I can't believe these people have enough sense to even BREATHE....
Posted by: Astounded | January 11, 2008 06:17 PM
Does anyone remember that Jesus ate fish? Does that make Him a murderer? Absolutely not. I do not believe that God initially created animals for us to eat, but it is a consequence of sin committed in the Garden of Eden. "The wages of sin is death." yeah it sucks, but that's how it is. I do NOT think that animals are on the same level as humans. And I also do not think that I am on the same level as this psycho, Chris McCuin, when I eat a tuna sandwhich. This poor woman's life has ended in a gruesome way. Have a little respect.
Posted by: Amy | January 11, 2008 06:25 PM
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard, yes this is a terrible crime. However, the Bill of rights protects Mr. McCuin from "Cruel and Unusual punishment" which this would be considers as by the other 99% percent of us who see no problems with eating meat. PETA, I know you mean well but you really do come up with some of the stupidest Ideas ever, I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals... within reason. But trying to get the rest of us to stop eating me, you might as well ask everyone to stop breathing.
Posted by: Mike | January 11, 2008 06:25 PM
So...is this basically an admission that we did NOT evolve?
Becuase if we DID evolve, then what's the problem?
Posted by: Stacy | January 11, 2008 06:32 PM
Way to go Peta
Don't worry cows, sheep, goats, chickens are all herbivores so they won't pen you in order to eat you. The rest of America doesn't feel the way you do about Peta; they hardly know what is going on in their own individual lives to make such an obsevation. Unfortunately, most Americans are not very much aware of current events or other important issues. To imply that animal advocates are like ME terrorists is totally irresponsible of you and just plain ignorant. I am a pacifist and being vegan goes along with my advocacy for non-human animals. Over a century ago, men in Parliament laughed at the idea that women could possibly have souls. That animal advocacy is ridiculed is par for the course. Man is not meant to eat animals, man simply has the power to oppress them just as men have oppressed women and other cultures that were weaker over the centuries and still continue to do so in parts of the world. Humanity should strive to practice compassion for the other animals, maybe then we would treat each other a lot better. Eliminating the violence towards the other animals will eliminate the violence towards human animals...we are all connected.
Posted by: Ana | January 11, 2008 06:36 PM
Thanks to PETA putting garbage like that out there. Nothing is going to be done to eliminate the grossly inhumane practice of factory farming. If you say something about it the typical american idiot looks at you and says... what are you with PETA or something
Posted by: terror nazi | January 11, 2008 06:40 PM
after reading all the rubbish of these mikro-brains it's again time for a makro statement: first of all i think that it would really be wise to avoid to put every antiblogger's belch hereon because they are just waiting for to make some idiotic disturbance - they are not involved with anything about Peta and they want us just to lose time with them! if there is one antiblogger like steve ok - so we can have some fun but not in the dozen because there are thousands of jerks outthere who have no ideas about a respectful life towards other living beings and they are also refusing to educate themselves - so why always putting their stupidities online - one just can go out into the street for to hear the same farts! they never bring solutions and good propositions or ideas - they hate Peta because they just want their steak on the plate every day in their cheap lifestyle and then they disappear in some coffin on a graveyard and nobody ever shall talk about them and learn from them because history can continue without them and all the education and higher feelings and living from which during their lifetimes they had no idea! just eating sleeping mating dying this is all - and it's not much - indeed! they have to remain in their small limited box of nonsense and profit until the day comes when they bite the dust and i'm not sad about it! if there is just somebody showing some feeling and love in this world he or she can have my heart but not like this - here i'm feeling no sympathy at all - it's just boring to see that this is all after thousands of years of history: some belching meatsucking jerks outthere who open a dirty mouth against Peta - let them outside because they are not even willing to think about the real meaning of this super allegorical letter to the prison and it's very special private meaning!
Posted by: animalfriend | January 11, 2008 06:43 PM
I appreciate Brian's comment - if all flesh were created equal what would lions eat???
Posted by: Kris | January 11, 2008 06:48 PM
This is an outrageously disgusting act committed by psychopath--i'm referring to the letter's author. It goes without saying that the [insert your word for they guy because mine would be edited] who did this to that woman is a psyho. But the PETA idiot who wrote the letter is beyond comprehension. For this [insert your word here becuse mine would be inappropriate for a public forum] to write and then send this letter is disgusting. Someone should lock him up for crimes committed against commen decency and common sense. The PETA crowd is dangerous; they apparently have no regard for human life.
For this--whatever he is--to use this tragedy for propoganda purposes is beyond disgusting...I'm left incredulous. I simply cannot fathom humans being so insensitve to the suffering her family must be experiencing. I hope they don't have to read this fools vile letter.
Posted by: Earl | January 11, 2008 06:55 PM
PETA has got to be setting a new low standard for themselves, if that's possible. Now we're to understand that the victim of this crime is essentially a chicken or a fish, as eating a chicken or fish is equally as heinous as killing someone's mother, sister, or daughter.
I was wondering what PETA stood for, but Joel seems to have nailed it.
Posted by: Brian | January 11, 2008 06:57 PM
Wow. Leave it to PETA to come up with something crazier than canabalism.
Trying to twist this tragedy to pursue their fringe agenda truly displays how morally bankrupt these people are. (Which is why they're having absolutely no effect on the population at large, they're incapable of framing a rational argument that makes sense to anyone but the already converted.)
Posted by: John | January 11, 2008 07:15 PM
So, how many vegetarians does PETA suggest he be fed a week ??
Posted by: Keith | January 11, 2008 07:52 PM
Do you realize that our Lord, Jesus Christ ate meat? Would you call Him a murderer? Try cutting back on the extremism, OK?
Posted by: Scott Groves | January 11, 2008 07:59 PM
Is this guy seriously insinuating that a culture that eats meat influenced this guy to eat his girlfriend??? Just another example of why intelligent people don't take PETA seriously.
Posted by: Jennifer Tocco | January 11, 2008 08:09 PM
oh man, IS PETA TRYING to desperately get themselves into the press? Kinda like Jack Thompson.
Posted by: Caboose | January 11, 2008 08:46 PM
To those saying man was meant to eat meat: Do your research!
Come on people, think about it. We barely have canines. Compared to other carnivores, they actually don't count as meat-devouring teeth.
We don't digest meat. It's a fact that meat has to sit in the human stomach and ROT before it can be passed through our systems. We can't handle it.
The cancer rate is 40% higher in meat eaters than in vegetarians.
Yup, that sounds like we were meant to eat meat.
Please express your opinion, and yes, you have a choice about whether or not to eat meat; just don't subject others to your ignorance.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 11, 2008 09:21 PM
This is getting to be too easy.
Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | January 11, 2008 10:08 PM
Hmm. I might be wrong, but I don't think a person's prison diet can legally be changed based on his crime, although it's a pretty sure bet he won't be getting any second helpings of meat from HIS kitchen...Seriously, though, you folks are promoting madness, not curbing it. This is much like the case where you sent a letter to Yassir Arafat a few years back complaining that suicide bombers were killing donkeys in the process of attacking and blowing up Israeli soldiers. Do you honestly expect to get broad support when your priorities are THAT screwed up?
Posted by: StrangeButTrue | January 11, 2008 11:29 PM
I will never understand why people cling to their "right" to eat meat. I agree wholeheartedly that you all have the right to your obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, and cholesterol. If you choose to live as a fat unhealthy person and eventually die that way--that's great. I certainly see enough of you out there on any given day. It is just such a shame, though, that you think the animals and environment should suffer for your selfishness and bad choices. If you want to kill yourself, go right ahead but think twice about making others suffer for your poor decisions.
Posted by: Antigone1000 | January 12, 2008 03:26 AM
I agree with K. This is a real publicity stunt. I have always supported PETA, and I will continue to do so, but really, aren't we losing a little ground here? Was it you or Humane Society that was gave Michael Vick a lecture on empathy? That one got me too.....he could NEVER be empathic or he could not have done what he did.
Posted by: Beth | January 12, 2008 04:45 AM
Posted by: K | January 11, 2008 02:35 PM
I'm a PETA supporter but this is definitely a misstep on the part of your organization. To try and turn the murder and dismemberment of a woman into an attention getting device for vegetarianism is horrifying, and it makes PETA look completely inhumane, which is the opposite of what PETA stands for, correct?
Shame on you for trying to use the death of an innocent person to, as someone above put it, "grab attention for the vegetarian issue."
^
I second that.
And to those people that say they've "never seen a healthy looking vegan" and "humans are supposed to eat meat" should really look into the topic, rather than attempt to merely justify their (meat eating) habits, without knowing anything about veganism.
Posted by: Shona | January 12, 2008 08:24 AM
You people even deranged? Some maniac murders a woman then cooks her and all you lunatics can talk about is vegan lunches!
Is their some medication you people should be on?
Please, consult a reliable mental-health professional today.
Posted by: RC | January 12, 2008 09:00 AM
Lots of people are commenting on how "obviously absurd" this comparison is.
But once you try to explain WHY, we get things like:
"Animals were put there for man"
Were women put there for man? Were blacks put there for whites? Those were the main defenses of patriarchy and slavery. We've been taught since we were kids that all the other species are there for us to use. It's tough to rethink that attitude, but we should at least try.
"Should we stop eating plants?"
No, plant's don't feel pain. But animals feel it as much as you or I would if we were treated the same way. Scary thought!
I'm SO glad all of your guys are commenting, though. Keep it up! Respond to me!
PS What's this "left wing" stuff? I'm a conservative. So's Bruce!
PPS: Check it out: VegetarianStarterKit.com
Posted by: Mark | January 12, 2008 11:00 AM
To Jay (from January 11, 2008 05:25 PM): wow, you are so unbelievably pathetic! Nice way to deflect responsibility for your own behaviour. If YOU eat a chicken (or buy one and throw it away - same outcome for the chicken), then YOU are the one who has contributed to the death of that animal.
I haven't seen such a large concentration of LAME attacks on PETA since the whole Mike Vick affair blew up.
Animals are NOT on this earth for human consumption. Animals were here hundreds of millions of years before humans, and managed not to pollute the earth and start wars.
Look up the word "speciesism" in your vast amounts of spare time. You are just as bad as racists.
Humans do not have the same type of teeth as carnivores, nor do we have the physiology designed for meat-eating.
Almost all cancers are from lifestyle choices, like smoking and poor diet, and meat eaters have a higher risk of cancer, as well as diabetes, osteoporosis and heart disease.
PETA and other animal rights groups/individuals do have the right to express their opinions (as do those who disagree - otherwise your posts would never be allowed on this site) since HUMANS have been accorded those rights.
PETA and its supporters are speaking up for those who do not have a voice.
Those of you who think you are SO SMART in believing that it is not inhumane to kill animals for their flesh are very much mistaken. If you do not want to believe me, read "Slaughterhouse" by Gail Eisnitz, or watch the movie "Earthlings" (I dare you!).
Axxis, you are just a moron. Tell me just exactly what legal action could be taken against PETA for this letter (I mean, describe the specific civil law that would apply in this situation).
And of course PETA knows full well that the jail cannot force any inmate to eat a vegetarian diet! Some of you are just so stupid that you cannot see that PETA was trying to make a point, and not being literal about it!!!!!!
Posted by: Michele | January 12, 2008 12:05 PM
Wait, help me on this one. How is providing a muderer a meal of delicious vegetables, fruits, and grains "taking away his rights"? Your logic is flimsy, we're not proposing cruel and unusual punishment, just a diet devoid of violence and pain.
Posted by: Kathlyn | January 12, 2008 12:13 PM
Look look - how many canibals we got on here! It's incredible but true - also pretending that Jesus was a meat eater! All these terrorists who hate on PETA would do everything to distroy this animal rights organization just to have their daily carrion on their plate! Look how a neanderthalic sight and site!
Jack??????????????????????
Posted by: RAINBOW WARRIOR | January 12, 2008 12:16 PM
since when does PETA have place and time for such a psychotic and stupid posting mob who pretends to have a right to abuse animals according to their own whims and that Jesus was a meat eater! If he would have been a meat eater he would not be the 'Son of God' because GOD does not condone to kill his creatures or any living being! the bible forgers are omni-present everywhere in history! they degraded this book and even today they are taking out whole sentences if they don't like them! shame on this barbarian liars and forgers! The Kingdom of God is not a slaughterhouse but a place of rest for all living beings! these freaks didn't learn anything from 2000 years of christian faith - they are just twisting everything around according to their own criminal and idiotic whims - shame on you all - you are just bastards and liars and contradicting to the whole intelligent personalities in this whole world and history! contradicting the church fathers - who all were vegetarians - contradicting the saints - who mostly were vegetarians - contracting all the big artists and philosophers - go to have a look on google: God's direct contact - vegan and vegetarian elite of the world! learn first before you go to vomit and shit on this blog - you bunch of bastards - idiotic liars and twisters - show yourselfes with some reasonable stuff and proofs - and i'm sorry Jack - please don't get me wrong but posting all this shit here on the blog goes too far! they have no intelligent level, no education, no reason, nothing - they just want to show their 'christian' and other faith against PETA - once again! Stop them at once! I'm a honorable PETA member and don't need to be offended in this way by this dirty mob - which understands very well but they don't want to understand - do you understand - for this they don't deserve to be shown up here - these paranoid bastards. Before they open their dirty mouth again they should study the philosophies of our ancestors - they were thousands of them for to teach the right stuff! thank you jack - i have to go!
Posted by: cappuccino | January 12, 2008 12:32 PM
up-here are some people mentioning Jesus - so I feel free to mention 'The Lord of the Rings':
Didn't all you morons get the philosophy:
shadowfax is vegan
the elven and Gandalf are vegetarians
the hobbits and men are animal eaters
the orcs and uruk-hai are canibals
sauron is satan
understand the point?????
Posted by: shadowfax | January 12, 2008 12:45 PM
A meat-based diet is leading us directly to the complete degeneration and annihilation of this planet! And to all the soooooo 'good christians' here: think about the allegorical teaching why 'God created mammals and men on the same day' maybe because He wanted to show us that eating mammals is also a kind of cannibalism?! Your fast ready answers are too cheap but it's very sad if someone is the slave of his stomach!!! who said this???!!! Check it out!!!
Posted by: NAGASAKI | January 12, 2008 01:20 PM
I don't understand why people are outraged because PETA proposed him a vegetarian diet: if he would have listened to PETA and have been a vegetarian before he would not have committed this crime!
Everything clear?
Posted by: Old Spiderwoman | January 12, 2008 01:28 PM
Oh dear it sure is funny how most of you claim that we are not connected to animals, and then act like a wolf with fresh meat when someone speaks of taking meat away. The biggest problem with society today is they do not care who they hurt in the process of getting what they want, and yes this includes eating meat.
Amy, is it a fair comparison to draw religion into justifying animal abuse? Do you really think that the Jesus that you want to throw in everyones face would have any sympathy on the actions that take place in slaughterhouses today? You people that bring ‘religion†into this to state your point miss the main point that GOD created these creatures, and daily you are harming what was created...indirectly you are contributing to slaughterhouses now please tell me where Jesus went to the slaughter house in the bible???? The only book that you will find that points to Jesus using the slaughterhouse as way of cruel and unusual punishment for all animals will be the Bible created by the meat industry that they worship every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It seems you people are more concerned about the right for this cannibal to eat meat than you are the crimes that he committed...You will fight for the rights of a murderer who has eaten people, but you have problems with people that will fight to ensure that innocent creatures that have never harmed anyone do not have spend their whole lives in agony & pain...this is screwed up.. I think you people need to check your morals at the door.
Posted by: Dana | January 12, 2008 01:41 PM
to 'Way to go PETA':
There were cultures and civilizations on this planet older than the small fast food believers like Europe and America - who never ate meat! Great kingdoms with highly developed populations thousands of years ago in ancient 'Bharata' as it's his real name - not India as it was given by the western oppressers! It's the west who forced a degenerated diabolic lifestyle on a heroic nation like todays 'India'! And what's the result: a mirror of your own cursed future! you stupid wankers!
Posted by: Daylight | January 12, 2008 01:48 PM
Axxis:
"you have no right to impose..." etc.
Actually, we DO have a right to suggest, to propose, to give opinions. This is America, remember?
As for all you "Jesus-ate-fish", "Jesus-ate-meat" posters, ask yourself what Jesus would say about today's factory farms and slaughter methods and I think that's your answer on the Jesus subject. Above all, Jesus represents kindness and compassion, not cruelty, negligence and indifference to suffering.
Posted by: Susannah S | January 12, 2008 01:50 PM
This is a unique chance for this cannibal to switch to a life without violence! All prison inmates should have the possibility for a vegetarian diet - not just a fascistic menu forced on them without having a choice!
Posted by: Shawshank Redemption | January 12, 2008 02:17 PM
all those pretending that jesus was a meat-eater are wrong! how could he say then: go out and teach the gospels to every creature? you 'christians' do you think that you can teach the gospels in the slaughterhouses? what kind of a bunch of rascals are you?
Posted by: peppino | January 12, 2008 02:39 PM
It's always deplorable to see how many people are wantingly misunderstanding and discrediting PETA! I think that the largest animal rights organization in the world is meriting a bit more respect - view their list of success and the ongoing positive international actions agenda!
Posted by: Gentleman | January 12, 2008 03:10 PM
excellent point shadowfax: the 'lord of the rings' is a great philosophical epic showing us how lowlife principals can lead to a complete degradation of humanity: didn't the orcs be elven once?
and how gollum after killing his brother forgot the taste of bred and started to indulge in eating uncooked fish and meat!
also great the scene in peter jackson's opus where denethor is devoring meat while his own sun is sent into the battle and gandalf is staring at the empty animal cages - when pipin is singing his song that all destinies are one and mixed!
but rare are the people understanding the basic philosophy of the 'ring'! too bad for them!
as long as there are slaughterhouses there shall be battlefields! (leo tolstoi) don't forget this you mean 'christian' fools!
Posted by: papillon | January 12, 2008 04:58 PM
Gentleman,
Stunts like these are the reason people discredit and misunderstand PETA. They would get more respect if they stopped trying to capitalize on tragedies of other people.
PETA should stop trying to be so polarizing and they'd accomplish many more of their goals. Most people in society are against cruelty to animals, and would support PETA if they weren't constantly doing things like this.
Posted by: Jay | January 12, 2008 05:38 PM
To Old SPiderwoman:
Yes it's very clear. If he was a vegetarian he would have just killed her. Got it. That would be much better.
To Shawshank Redemption:
Every prisoner in America has the right to request vegitarian, kosher, pork free...etc meals if they so choose. This PETA letter is asking the jail to force a vegitarian diet on the prisoner. So wouldn;t PETA be the fascistic enterprise trying to force it's menu on the prisoner?
What all you people fail to realize is that stunts like this draw BAD attention to your cause. You'd have a lot more support if you didn't pull this kind of thing, and in the end you're costing the animals support they might have from people if you weren't so radical.
Posted by: Jay | January 12, 2008 05:44 PM
This just seems silly.
And Shawshank Redemption - they're in prison ... most for a reason. Screw choice for them, they got themselves in and they should live with the consequences ... but I digress from the topic at hand.
Posted by: Kristina | January 12, 2008 06:06 PM
Beth and Shona:
The name of the poster is BELOW their message. You both are referring to Jessica Martin's post, not mine. :)
Posted by: K | January 12, 2008 06:32 PM
Yes, and with the whole "jesus ate meat" argument, whether or not you believe in Jesus in the first place, the fact is, "God" created these animals (or so many may think). Sure, in the past it may have been necessary to eat them for survival, but in this day and age, we do not NEED to!
I'm sure "God" would not appreciate how humans are copletely destroying the Earth, hugely due to animal agriculture. The meat industry is one of the most significant contributors to the Earths' most serious environmental problems. (global warming etc)
Nor would he appreciate the inhumane ways in which we torure and kill other living creatures.
If you like the taste of meat, why not try mock-meat? It actually tastes even better, is not loaded with fat and calories, and there's no torture involved!
Physiologically, humans are not designed to eat meat.
Look at the difference between a lion's teeth and ours. A cheeters speed, not to mention agility, claws, eyesight, etc of carnivores. Animals rely on their natural hunting ability, rather than tools.
The stomach of carnivores have ten times the aount of hydrochloric acid as humans. Alkaline saliva is not designed to break down animal flesh. Carnivores and omnivores, however, have acidic saliva. Our stomach capacity - under 30% of total volume of our digestive tract. Whereas carnivores and omnivores sromach capacity is 60-70% of their total volume. I could go into many more details - kidneys, facial muscles, jaw muscles, saliva, mouth opening vs head size, etc.
But I think I've made my point by now.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 12, 2008 06:54 PM
Amy: it is really dangerous to take mythology for real! The wrong interpretation of the bible has brought misery and death to milliards of living beings - including humans! What do you think we are allowed to: killing other living beings just because a story telling ancient book told us that Eve ate an apple? This is the most crazy and dangerous idea in the world! People like you are guilty of horrible things committed against animals and people! And there are other mythological books existing with more basis for credibility than just a fairy tale informing us that 'GOD' allows men to kill other living beings! In middle age people like you pretended that 'God' allowed people to burn other people at the stake just because they had other ideas, religions or opinions - what a disgrace and catastrophe - running into the sharpened knife of a so-called religion!
Posted by: Salvatore Ranno | January 12, 2008 07:28 PM
Salvatore,
I agree with you 100% just look around you how much violence is going on in the world in the name of "GOD"! I have found that more people use God as cause for their evil....It seems to me the ones of you that believe in God do so on a pick & choose level...you pick and choose what suits your wants out of the Bible and disregard the rest....Most vegetarians/vegans I know have not chosen a life of helping animals or their diet in the name of religion they have done so because of what is in their hearts maybe if the rest of the world stopped using religion as a platform to justify evil, and followed their hearts the world would be a much better place.
Posted by: Dana | January 13, 2008 10:17 AM
I understand the point, but being a vegetarian should be of choice made by the individual or made standard by the facility. It should not be a form of punishment in relation this particular man's radical and horrifing preference. I am a Peta member because we educate people to make a ethical change.
Posted by: Nicole | January 13, 2008 11:56 AM
I think I would be much more critical if PETA had been dancing around naked in the streets, capitalizing on this headline. But they limited the message to the blog and sent the letter to prison officials.
I still think they were completely thoughtless, immature and short-sighted about not caring about the feelings of the murder victim's family, but then again that's why I don't donate money to PETA.
I understand their intentions, but it's sad that it's done in such a shoddy and tasteless fashion.
Posted by: Maya, C.V.T. | January 13, 2008 12:01 PM
OH, SURE!
Whenever someone comes on one of these boards and touts PETA's "company line", everything is all hunky-dorry. But, when one person comes on and opposes the idea, you all gang up on them and make them out to be idiots.
I'm beginning to wonder if you animal rights supporters have the ability to think for yourselves, or are all of you just brainwashed by this mumbo-jumbo garbage??!?!?!
If a person wants to eat meat, they will eat meat. If a person wants to be a vegtarian, then they will be a vegetarian. But, if a meat-eater is forced to become a vegetarian as a result of interference from an organization such as PETA, then you are going to have a serious problem on your hands, and there WILL be repercussions from all sides.
And as for certain people such as captain nemo, Carla and Dana, I think you need to back off and allow me to think and speak how I please.
Posted by: axxis | January 13, 2008 01:06 PM
Ginny Shearer Donovan and Family,
I am so very sorry for your Great Loss.
I respect your need for privacy during this most dificult time.
You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Respectfully
Holly
Posted by: Holly | January 13, 2008 02:03 PM
Meat Eater
The word "animal" comes from the Latin word animal and is derived from anima meaning vital breath or soul. (It is even the same in Spanish, a Romance language). The word animal, used in a bilogical context, also includes humans. Hence, animals have souls!!!!
Yes, being vegan is much healthier and certainly more compassionate. Since you are so concerned about abortions, my best advice to you is to get involved with doing something about it instead of insulting animal advocates. Go to any Catholic Church and they will welcome you with open arms!!! They fight against abortion daily in many ways!!!
Posted by: Ana | January 13, 2008 03:25 PM
Amy
Directions were given by God in Genesis to man to eat from the fruit-bearing trees, therefore a vegan diet for man. Jesus is God and without sin, therefore he was vegan. Your illogical conclusion does not follow the premise accurately.
God created the animals and only He can take away life. "Thou shall not kill". In Judeo-Christian belief suicide is also sinful because only God can take away life.
Jesus was the embodiment of non-violence; please don't trash Jesus to support your taste for cadavers and violence.
What level exactly are you on???
Posted by: Ana | January 13, 2008 03:57 PM
Excellent point PETA!
Posted by: Kaye | January 13, 2008 10:09 PM
As a vegetarian and animal lover, I must say that this is the most ridiculous letter ever. Even though it seems like a publicity stunt, its just stupid. A man that is mentally capable of murdering and eating a human being, a fellow species, is not mentally capable to understand or make a decision to be a vegetarian. He has severe mental problems. You cannot reason with a person like that.
Secondly, I agree with some of the other comments that this makes PETA look stupid. You do so much great work like helping companies end animal testing among other great victories, but then you once again blow it by doing something completely moronic like this. It makes me ashamed to say that I support your work. Which I am starting to wonder why I do.
Being a vegetarian is a personal choice one which i choose for my life. My boyfriend however does not choose this and I respect him for that. You cannot force people to stop eating meat and suggesting a vegetarian diet to a mentally insane person with no course of rational thought is just plain STUPID!!! GOOD JOB!
Posted by: Julianne Markil | January 13, 2008 11:37 PM
Yeah... this is probably why some people disapprove of PETA... I'm not saying I do, I'm an active member, but this, while funny, is sort of nervy. I totally agree with everything Mr. Friedrich said about animals feeling the same and wanting the same things we do, but some officers of the law might not appreciate their hard work trying to stop this sort of thing from happening being compared to what they might think as harmless food production. While they may be ignorant fools who don't care about animals, we PETA members are intellectuals who should know better than to provoke these sort of people. But as I have no alternative solution at the moment, GOOD JOB MR. FRIEDRICH!!
Posted by: Alyse | January 14, 2008 12:22 AM
Beth and Shona:
The name of the poster is BELOW their message. You both are referring to Jessica Martin's post, not mine. :)
Posted by: K | January 12, 2008 06:32 PM
Thanks :)
Posted by: Shona | January 14, 2008 04:22 AM
Bravo PETA! YOU ARE ALWAYS RIGHT! ALL THE PEOPLE NEED TO GO VEGAN!
Posted by: liliana | January 14, 2008 11:35 AM
Cappuccino: you are right - they are disappearing in some coffin on some graveyard but in the meantime: how much pain and incredible suffering are they inflicting to this planet and it's inhabitants - humans and non-humans - until they disappear!
Posted by: Harry Bradshaw | January 14, 2008 02:15 PM
Jay: I don't agree with you on one point: you wrote that if he would have been a vegetarian he would just have killed his woman - but me I don't know any vegetarian or vegan person who would commit an act like this!?
Posted by: ECHO | January 14, 2008 02:19 PM
If people have the free choice to kill animals - what choice do we animal-protectors have? And how dares someone put a religion above animal rights? There are thousands of religions in this bloody world and eachone is claiming to be the only right and true-one! And where do we end alltogether? On the graveyard. It's really High Noon to get serious and stop joking upon corpses of martyred animals. If there is a creator, he, she or it loves all the creation in exactly the same way. And it's not the religion with the highest number of idiots which must be the only true-one - far from that!
Posted by: Francesco | January 14, 2008 02:29 PM
to Jay: I admit that Animal Rights activists are sometimes a bit shocking - but Animal Protectors of all times got one great advantage: they are Centuries ahead in their wisdom and feelings! Imagine this: if you have to live the daily massacre of all your most precious achievements - in front of all this backwardness - there comes a time when even a Saint is feeling a holy anger! And then it can happen..... as you told!
Posted by: Gentleman | January 14, 2008 02:48 PM
Jay: I suppose you are a little boy - throwing away a whole chicken is stupid, naughty and childish - regardless to Peta's stunts! If you were grown-up you would give the chicken to a hungry person! Disgusting naughty child - tell your mother to give you a lesson!
Posted by: Aurora Borealis | January 14, 2008 03:11 PM
So-called religious people are the most heartless in the world, whatever their religion is! Concerning myself i got rid of my pastor years ago when after a curch-organized charismatic chicken feast the whole community got diarrhoe! He said: No! this was not the chicken - this was the DEVIL - because you are always mating behind my back! From that day the pastor and the church saw just MY back - and imagine: this is no joke but nothing but the truth!
Posted by: HIDDEN ACE | January 14, 2008 04:17 PM
very good idea, writting to the jail administrator =)
Posted by: Anna | January 14, 2008 05:03 PM
Ther eis nothing wrong with asking that he be given a vegetarian diet. I do not see it as a form of punishment but rather a reminder to him that eating flesh is wrong. Just recently a convicted cannibal in Germany, Armin Meiwes went vegetarian, "He finds the idea of factory farming as distasteful as his crime was".
Posted by: Bananas | January 14, 2008 05:12 PM
It's all fair game here. But I think that this is a really good strong way to promote vegetarianism. You woulnd't eat a person would you? So why would you eat something that experiences just as much pain and fear as human beings? They feel more pain in five minutes of , than most people do in their lifetime. Common sense you guys, don't eat meat. Besides, this isn't saying that everyone should be a vegetarian or vegan, it's a very simple request that a cannibal is fed vegetarian meals, in prison. Those of you trying to use Jesus-ate-meat, or "what about plants?" -That's just arrogance and you know it, it makes you seem childish and immature.
Posted by: Mausx | January 14, 2008 09:23 PM
Wow. Just one action - sending a letter to a prison recommending a vegetarian diet for a murderer - can unleash all that controversy. Now, I see why PETA did it.
To all of you accusing PETA of being sociopathic, etc. etc., the point WAS made, though, wasn't it? And that's what PETA does, point out that animals are abused and mistreated every day and that there are alternatives. The means PETA chooses may seem questionable, sometimes, but the point is ALWAYS made and if it causes controversy, so much the better.
Posted by: Susannah S | January 15, 2008 09:58 AM
Hey Jay, nice little plan u came up with. thats just great throw away some chickens while there are people out there starving WONDERFUL!! u idiot. the only thing i agree with these heartless people about is that peta was very wrong to use this horrible case as a way to promote vegetarianism...it makes us all look bad. Now for all you people who argue that Jesus ate meat...how long ago did Jesus live? I don't think anyone could go to the store and pick up some veggieburgers back then...they had to survive off of meat but we dont have to now. And no actually we are not MEANT to eat meat...if we were meant to eat meat we would be able to tear thru flesh the same way a lion would. we just eat meat because we think we own everything and we want to have control over everything in the world. THINK ABOUT IT
Posted by: Kerry | January 15, 2008 01:23 PM
Michele
Your last paragraph in your comment says it all. That was the only point.
The violence this man showed his girlfriend is an extension of the violence animals endure from humans daily every minute of the day. When we are violent to one another we are also violent to the non-human animals. When we are violent to non-human animals we are also violent to one another. We are all connected and putting that violence out there touches all of us, human and non-human. Stop the chain of violence and kindness and compassion will prevail for all.
Posted by: Ana | January 15, 2008 04:17 PM
Ana -
Wow! You know, proof positive that Jesus was a Vegan??!! Man, do you also know that the big bang theory is true as well? You are one smart cookie.
Forgive me for the sarcasm, but honestly ... people who make assumptions about Jesus/God are no better than people who bad mouth PETA and its supporters.
Posted by: Kristina | January 15, 2008 10:44 PM
Sorry Kerry, but it's out of my hands. I'm not the one trying to gain attention and capitalize on the suffering of others.
It's PETA who'll be choosing for those poor chickens to be slaughtered for absolutely no reason at all.
Posted by: Jay | January 16, 2008 12:14 AM
cappuccino~ When in doubt, attempt attacking someone on a personal level.
As for the rest:
Has this man been CONVICTED of these crimes? Innocent until proven guilty, keep that in mind.
My heart bleeds for the family of this poor woman- A family to which you, PETA et all, have shown no respect. This is a disgusting stunt, and will garner you little public favor. It makes you look like a group of rabid lunatics who have no empathy for other living creatures- which includes humans.
Please don't do this again.
You've lost what little support I had for you, as well as that of my friends and family. This was crass- not funny or cute or 'point making' in any way. I do support a non cruel world for ALL God's creations- but I do not support cruelty and heartache being imposed on the innocent to prove a point. And that girl's family IS innocent- and so is that seemingly wicked man, until he goes to trial. Wouldn't you, too, want your day in court?
Posted by: J | January 16, 2008 02:20 AM
Fantastic P.E.T.A!!!!!!!!!! Hope it works.
Hey, gang, listen to this: when Jeff Dahmer was in prison, I sent a letter
to the prison's warden suggesting that he not be served meat for good reasons. The warden wrote back saying that I would have to write to the U.S. President about it because the prison and state don't make the rules.
A financial point: taxpayers put out more tax money for prisoners to be fed costly meat.
What am I missing here: every state's taxpayers including voters pay extra money for incarcerated criminals to be served meat, but only the President has a say about the menu.? But if prisoners want a vegetarian diet that is cheaper, they can't have it.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 16, 2008 09:24 AM
Kristina - with the same right as other people claim Jesus as a meat-eater - Ana claims him a vegan and me i claim him a vegetarian! it's simple like this - and why should a so-called priest or selfmade pastor know it better - did he look into GOD's kitchen???????
Posted by: FREE BURMA | January 17, 2008 07:35 AM
The funniest thing is, all you people against PETA post and read about peta and vegen/vegetarianism more than PETA supporters themselves. If you don't agree with their belief and don't give a shit about vegan/vegetarianism. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING READING The PETA Files? You do care. Why else would you be wasting your time? Your concience is bothering you?
Also you people need to stop taking things so seriously. PETA was just trying to prove a point. It was merely a suggestion.
Posted by: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH! SO FUNNY! | January 17, 2008 08:00 PM
Wouldn't it be more cost effective for the prison system to feed everyone a vegetarian diet? Think of all the good they would be doing for not only the prisoners, but for our helpless friends as well.
Posted by: bd | January 18, 2008 06:58 AM
People are saying that we evolved to be able to eat meat, but our brains also evolved so we could understand compassion, and right and wrong, and in a society like today where there is so much choice, we need to make a compassionate one and chose not to make animals suffer on our behalf. Its so easy for people just to go out and buy, say, a chicken, its convinient, i think if your going to eat meat, at least have the decency to rear it yourself, give it a good life and treat it with some respect! And i dont think this letter was nessacarly wrong, i think its blunt, but i think letters that are trying to change the world need to be. It's shocking, but we live in a shocking world, we need to accept that and still fight for our belifs.
Posted by: Dom | January 18, 2008 07:55 AM
There are so many ignorant posts above, I really don't know where to begin. Nor do I know why all of you on here bashing PETA are reading a PETA blog. Sounds like a guilty conscience to me.
And to clear things up, Jesus ate fish, no other meat. It's in Genesis. And people were not allowed to eat meat until after the flood when all of the vegetation was gone. So if you're going to use the Bible as a reference to make your point, you should probably get the facts straight.
Posted by: Kyrstin | January 18, 2008 10:40 AM
Kyrstin
The New Testament is where you will find Jesus---not Genesis!
FREE BURMA
Thanks!!!! And so true!!
Posted by: Ana | January 18, 2008 05:18 PM
krystin, fyi below.( I don't endorse the info accuracy, it's been a long while since sunday school. Feel free to refute)
http://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVarticles/DidJesusEatMeat.htm
Since we are now living in the post-flood period are we allowed to eat meat or not? And why would you consider fish to be anything other than meat?
Posted by: rojo | January 22, 2008 09:02 AM
Why do you all feel you need to find confirmation in the Bible?? First of all, not everyone believes in the Bible. Secondly--you all have eyes/ears/brains/consciences, don't you? You can see that animals feel love and build relationships? You can see that they suffer when they are hurt, right? Would you ignore all of this in favor of what someone else wrote? I wouldn't. Why do I need to rely on someone's else interpretation when God has given me the ability to make my own? As for eating animals--we are not carnivores, we are omnivores. Studies have shown that vegetarians are healthier than meat-eaters. What more do you need?
Posted by: Antigone1000 | January 24, 2008 05:25 PM
Jay: Let me get this straight--YOU are criticizing PETA??? Your threat to buy chicken just for the sake of throwing it away sounds like something a 2 year old would say when he's having a tantrum because he didn't get his way. I don't really think YOU should be criticizing anyone else's tactics....
Posted by: Antigone1000 | January 24, 2008 08:39 PM
"And to those of you who suggest that we are "meant" to be "omnivores", I would just ask you to look at the TEETH of dogs/wolves/leopards and see how much they look like yours. Now, look at the teeth of cows/horses/goats/apes, all of whom eat vegetables. Ours look more like the latter. A carnivore's gut is short and straight; an herbivore's gut is long and convoluted. Ours are more like the latter. Over the years, we developed the ability to eat meat, yes, but we were never "meant" to do so. That evolved in the northern climes where vegetation became scarce."
Ok, so let me get this straight. You're saying you know FOR A FACT that we were never meant to eat meat, many thousands of years ago? I don't know about you, but I wasn't around back then and I'm not sure that I know many people who were. Oh, and it seems to me that the back of our mouth looks more like a vegetable eater, and the front looks more like a meat eater... Hmm.. sounds like a definition from somewhere... Omnivore, perhaps?
Posted by: Andy | February 10, 2008 02:08 AM
yea axxis. i agree with Ana.
Posted by: Tilini | May 13, 2008 12:31 AM
Go cannibal! Always eat humans only! I HATE THE WHOLE F______ ANIMAL HATERS SO ONLY EAT HUMAN MEAT!! IT TATES SO GOOD!! I have never tried it, actually. I bet it's good because it's guilt free!
Posted by: Michelle | June 11, 2008 09:38 PM
To Andy- Many herbivores and ruminating animals like rabbits and cows have chambered stomachs and other special organs to help them digest more vegetation. Cellulose, for example, is difficult to digest fully- that's why you see corn sometimes in human stool. It's hard for humans to digest. Cows have the ability as herbivores to fully digest those kinds of plants.
As for the teeth of omnivores, humans have such teeth. We have molars for grinding and canines such for tearing. Our teeth are similar to those chimps, who are also omnivorous.
Posted by: Greg | June 18, 2008 01:46 PM
Oh sorry, I didn't realize that Andy was quoting someone.
Posted by: Greg | June 18, 2008 01:50 PM