Cute!!!!! But so true!!!

Posted by: Ana | December 17, 2007 01:10 PM

Oh honestly, if it's organic milk, it's not bad. I drank milk all my life and have yet to feel any ill effects.

Posted by: Lucinda | December 17, 2007 01:53 PM

VERY GOOD!

Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 01:58 PM

*Groan* and a little *Eww!* Oh, and did Santa lose weight in that ad?

BTW, whoever mentioned the Silk Soy Nog, thanks! It's delicious (and available at Wal-Mart, yippie)!

Posted by: BullyDawg | December 17, 2007 02:04 PM

Great fu@#in' ad!

Posted by: Bill | December 17, 2007 02:58 PM

I needed a good laugh and this ad did it!!! Thanks for the big smile!

Posted by: Jaclyn | December 17, 2007 03:21 PM

Remember growing up and the doctor would tell you or your mom would say "you have to drink at least 8-8oz glasses of milk a day in order for your bones to be strong and healthy" what a farse, I would drink that damn milk till I puked, thats what probably made me lactose intalrant today, my body just said thats enough!! Besides the obvious why would anyone want to drink someone eles' moms breast milk!

Posted by: Carla | December 17, 2007 03:37 PM

Guess whos gettin coal in their faux stocking. (Not even that. If Santa=Cheyney, its D.U)

Season's beatings.

Posted by: Caboose | December 17, 2007 03:52 PM

No, they had to make him thin so at least he can see his...p****! Lol!!!

Posted by: Carla | December 17, 2007 03:53 PM

Milk makes you impotent? First time I've heard this. State your sources.

Posted by: Paul | December 17, 2007 04:10 PM

This is why I don't join PETA. Noble goals, lousy message delivery.

There are lots of sound reasons for not using dairy (compassion towards animals, avoiding heart disease). PETA doesn't need to resort to dubious scientific claims about impotence.

Advertisements like this are likely to reinforce the view of PETA as being out in left field. They won't educate people or encourage them to reconsider their habits. It's preaching to the choir.

Posted by: Robert | December 17, 2007 04:12 PM

From a marketing point of view, this ad does it.

We've learned time after time that many people don't want to hear about health issues, people don't want to hear the details about cruelty to animals, and so forth. If people wanted to hear this, then everyone would be healthy and everyone would be vegan.

This ad grabs your attention and lets you know that milk is not good for you. Hopefully doing something this controversial, will get people buzzing and talking.

This is EXACTLY why I joined Peta!

Posted by: Jaclyn | December 17, 2007 05:04 PM

Lucinda thats true. Like people who smoke, not all get cancer, emphysema or copd, but many that smoke do get sick.
The same is true with milk, some dont get sick, and some dont know weather they will get sick in the future or not. I know some one who is 65 years old, never been sick a day in her life, she lived on a dairy farm, the milk she drank was organic, and she now has Lymphoma...her doctor thinks milk was a culprit. She was always so very healthy, and took very good care of her self.
so you may be lucky and not get sick, or you may get sick in the years to come. I hope you stay healthy, truly.

Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 05:27 PM

ana, what exactly is so true about it? Maybe soy does bring you joy.

If santa laid off the alcohol along the way he'd be able to stay up all night.

Posted by: rojo | December 17, 2007 06:12 PM

I LOVE THIS AD!!
From a man's point of view this will definetly get me to start thinking! So glad I drink silk lol.

Posted by: Eric | December 17, 2007 06:35 PM

hah, i havent seen that before.

Posted by: Sarah | December 17, 2007 06:39 PM

From Jaclyn:
From a marketing point of view, this ad does it.

We've learned time after time that many people don't want to hear about health issues, people don't want to hear the details about cruelty to animals, and so forth. If people wanted to hear this, then everyone would be healthy and everyone would be vegan.

This ad grabs your attention and lets you know that milk is not good for you. Hopefully doing something this controversial, will get people buzzing and talking.

This is EXACTLY why I joined Peta!

---Terrific post! Well said.

Posted by: V. Soto | December 17, 2007 06:46 PM

Jaclyn,

I fully agree with you that we need to tailor the message to the audience, and that talking about health issues is one way to do this.

However, this advertisement is making a rather extraordinary factual assertion -- that milk causes impotence. I was hoping that there would be real scientific research to back this up, but I couldn't find any online (either on the GoVeg.com website or elsewhere).

To me, this ad doesn't convey "milk is not good for you." It conveys "PETA is making wild claims that it can't support." I think that it hurts the group's credibility, which is unfortunate. I want PETA to succeed.

Again, if the ad instead emphasized other proven health issues (weight, cardiovascular health), I think it would be much more effective.

Posted by: Robert | December 17, 2007 06:48 PM

I do not necessarily advocate routinely drinking cow's milk, but I am interested to understand the pathophysiologic basis for your claim. Why does milk cause ED? Cigarettes do, I know, but milk? How, exactly. If it's the obesity thing then soy beans and donuts cause obesity too.

Frankly, some of the great cheeses like mozzarella di bufalo and pecorino romano are worth a boner or two, to me at least.

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | December 17, 2007 08:22 PM

well honestly, I do love you guys, I do share some of your beliefs, though the not eating meat because of our teeth I don't share, simply because humans are not pure herbivores nor are they pure carnivores, we are somewhere in between, we are of a group known as Omnivores, meaning we eat a wide range of things, from fruits and veggies to meats and and eggs, now I do respect your beliefs but to force everyone to conform to yours is no different then us draping a fur coat on you, because its still infringes on our rights to eat meat, now I will try to find meat from more humane sources, it will be hard, but I still firmly believe that we were meant to eat meat, now for hunting, if you really REALLY want to see animals roaming free, then you mustn't forbid hunters from hunting, because we sadly have killed an awful lot of Apex predators so in order to keep certain animals from over grazing and over populating small patches of land, we sadly must cull some of them to leave room for future generations, As for the hunters, I don't mind them for skinning the kill whether it be a deer or a rabbit, but as long as they use all of the animal, or at least use everything on the animal that is considered edible or doesn't churn your stomach at the thought of eating, such as tripe or other organ meats, if that is anyones case, then I don't mind that being left for scavengers because they need to eat too, but anyways, I degress, I have drank milk my whole life and i have been around men who drank the stuff their whole lives and not once did they become impotent because of it, also, if you go organic, then there is nothing wrong with it, especially if it was all hand milked, or if the cows who are being machine milked are being cared for properly, that means having there teats and udders washed as regularly as the equipment that milks them, as well as regular application of udder cream to lessen the chances of the teats and udders becoming sore and chapped, thus eliminating the chances of puss being introduced into the milk, so while I do agree with you on that, the truth is not all farms are hives of cruelty, I admit, all factory farms are, but the smaller farms where pigs are allowed to roll in mud, or chickens can do whatever it is that they do without the worries of being Debeaked and forced to suffer, and where cows are milked by hand so that sores don't develop and become infected, so there are still plenty of farms where animals are being cared for properly and live good lives. Now my views on animal testing are mixed, what I don't like is when animals are tortured in these labs, because what point is there to destroy the eyes of a rabbit, is it to say "buy our eye make up, it destroys the eyes of bunny rabbits" or "buy our skin cream, it causes painful lesions in cats and other animals" however, not all tests on animals are like that, I am pretty sure you are familier with running a rat through a maze, the rat gets a reward if he makes it, and if he gets lost, he isn't left in the maze till he either gets it right or starves to death trying, no, they give him a break and shows the him how to get from the start of the maze to the finish line, so while I do feel for the animals who suffer from the tests being done to them, I do know that most do more humane tests on there subjects, but all in all, I feel that you guys could use some understanding and not jump to conclusions that humans are herbivores, because if you take a look at our closest reletives the chimpanzee, while they do often eat plant matter, they will eat meat on occasion, including smaller primates such as young baboons. its the same with baboons, I have seen them eat lizards and birds eggs, its because they are somewhat omnivorous, we are the same way, though we are more omnivorous than other primates, so don't get me wrong, I do find your work in saving animals to be really good, as for the rumors that you guys had purchased a huge walk in freezer that is good for two things, that being for the storage of meat, and the storage of corpses, well the medias guess is that when you guys raid an animal testing facility, you destroy the animals and tell the people that they had be liberated,but the way I see it, is that given the condition some of the animals are in, of course some of the poor animals are going to have to be humanly put to sleep because the animal was beyond saving and was kinder to put them down then it is to try and save them. Well this being said, I do appreciate your work in saving the animals of the world, its just some of the stuff you guys had said isn't quite true, that being that humans are herbivores, because we are Omnivores, now I do agree that a vegetarian diet won't hurt us, but we also won't be getting any vitamin B12 out of it either unless we supplement with vitamin B12 tablets, which is an indication that we were meant to eat meat to begin with, not to offend you, this is just my opinions, so I give my sincerest apologies in advanced for offending you, because these are simply my opinions, and you don't have to agree with them, you should at least consider them, since I think it will give you a better understanding of why we eat meat, not because we are herbivores who chose one day to eat meat, but rather because we are Omnivores who can chose between eating meat and veggies, so in closing, I simply wanted to share my opinions on the matter of whether its wrong to eat meat or not, because animals do it in the wild, and the animals who get eaten sadly do suffer, its just that we kill our prey a little differently then a lion or a wolf does, so Peace and don't let the trollson twins get you down, because frankly they were cute as little kids, now their just drugged up skanks who have a preference for furcoats instead of cruelty free coats made of artificial fibers instead of fur, which I would rather see instead of the real thing, and I do know how to tell if a furcoat that says its fake fur is actually made of real fur, if it feels like real fur, and if you part the fur and find leather, then frankly it means that its made of real fur and not faux fur, what kind of fur its made of, most likely cat, dog, coyote, or tanuki(raccoon dog) fur.

Posted by: Kathera Lockharte | December 17, 2007 10:18 PM

I totally agree with Jaclyn...this is exactly why I joined PETA too!

Posted by: Jason Levy | December 17, 2007 11:17 PM

Personal Philosophy: If we didn't eat delicious animals we wouldn't raise delicious animals...and if we didn't raise delicious animals...they all be extinct...so fire up the BBQ tonite and save another delicious species from extinction!

Posted by: Ryan | December 17, 2007 11:25 PM

Jaclyn....drinking milk made you lactose intolerent? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

This is one of the reasons no one takes this organization seriously, stupid messages with little foundation in reality. I mean, really, dogmatic PETA knows more about the effects of milk than scientist who study this sort of thing?

Posted by: ONS-Torlan | December 17, 2007 11:53 PM

:O

Omg! lol

Very clever

Posted by: K | December 18, 2007 12:41 AM

Is that Ingrids ex husband?

Posted by: bestuvall | December 18, 2007 01:58 AM

Uhh.. OK?

Posted by: Ryan | December 18, 2007 03:50 AM

This is why no one has respect for PETA. Hippies

Posted by: Ryan | December 18, 2007 04:45 AM

This is exactly the kind of thing which undermine's PETA credibility (and ultimately, its goal).
The lingering aftertaste of this type of campaign means I donate money to animal rights organisations other than PETA.
Take a leaf out of Greenpeace's book. They know how to grab media attention with losing respect.

Posted by: Richard | December 18, 2007 05:59 AM

I have to admit that I sometimes buy milk from Horizon Organic, but they claim to treat their cows well and you can visit their website and read their claims if you'd like. I hope no one will think I'm a horrible person for drinking milk, as I've already gotten my husband to partially go vegetarian, actually he loves the taste of vegetarian foods and soy milk as well, so it didn't take much convincing at all. I don't buy a lot of milk, just once in a while.

Posted by: Terriers Rule | December 18, 2007 06:12 AM

I don't understand the whole "Not good for you" thing here.

I can't think of anything more natural, then good old wholesome milk. That processed soy crap you drink I think would be more unhealthy. What kind of chemicals does it take to make a soybean in to milk?

I drink milk every day (as well as eat meat), and would venture to say that I am more healthy then most, if not all Vegan’s out there. No heart problems, no cholesterol problems, certainly no impotence problems, 6'3" 235 lbs and 8% body fat. I run 2-5 miles a day, hit the gym at least once a day, and eat healthy, that's all 4 food groups for you vegies only folks.

While researching this subject I found this great article about soy and its “benefits”. I won’t look for this to post anytime in this life time since any credible source that is anti PETA manages to not make it in the blog. At any rate here is a portion of the article found here http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm:

Is soy healthy?

Soy is not the health food that you think it is.
From tofu and tacos to baby formula and burgers, soy products have swept the nation as a healthy source of protein, with a reputation for being all natural and good for you. New studies have however raised questions over whether the ingredients in soy might increase the risk of breast cancer in some women, affect brain function in men and lead to hidden developmental abnormalities in infants.

The core of their concerns rests with the chemical makeup of soy: in addition to all the nutrients and protein, soy contains a natural chemical that mimics estrogen, the female hormone. Some studies in animals show that this chemical can alter sexual development. And in fact, 2 glasses of soy milk/day, over the course of one month, contain enough of the chemical to change the timing of a woman’s menstrual cycle.

This article may explain some of the irrational and psychotic behavior of a large portion of the PETA population.

Posted by: Fred | December 18, 2007 06:39 AM

Vegan Santa is mucho potento!

Ho Ho Ho

vegansanta.com

Posted by: Warwak | December 18, 2007 08:29 AM

i'm not a vegan but to much dairy is problem

Posted by: Sophie | December 18, 2007 09:24 AM

I love it! Rock on! Except i would like to learn more about not eating dairy products, i have been a vegetarian for 3 years now,and i eat dairy products, i would like to stop, but i need more facts, and need to make sure i will be healthy! if you could send me some info to my email. x]
kmlil@wi.rr.com

Posted by: kristina | December 18, 2007 09:33 AM

For commenters who use words like "force."

Seriously, at what point does this ad force you to do or believe anything? It's an advertisement, a suggestion. You have every right to get your hackles up OR have a laugh and get over yourself.

To sum up, this is an ad and I don't believe anyone "forced" you to come to this blog or "forced" you to have the same views or beliefs. Unlike the dairy cows who are FORCED to stand in filthy stalls and have vacuum hoses FORCED onto their sensitive teats.

Great Job PETA :)

Posted by: Debbie | December 18, 2007 12:42 PM

Not sure where the ED link comes in (saturated fat blocking small arteries?), but there's seems to be a link between dairy consumption and prostate cancer.

It's strange that we are the only species that, once we have been weaned from our own human mothers, finds it necessary to drink the mothers' milk of another species.

This might explain why the majority of the world is lactose-intolerant, and only through a genetic mutation have the rest been able to stomach it.

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 18, 2007 12:51 PM

Fred said, "I am more healthy then most, if not all Vegan’s out there."

If you like to run, maybe do some research on Scott Jurek—he's a fairly healthy vegan.

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 18, 2007 01:35 PM

Kristina--switching to Soy milk is the easiest thing.

Just do it. When you go to the store pick a brand.

It'll taste a little different at first. But now I can't look at cow's milk without a churn in my stomach.

There is just something harsh and strong in cow's milk.

As far as other dairy, I can't help you there. I still do the cheese and egg thing, although alot less than I used to.

Posted by: Tamara | December 18, 2007 02:15 PM

* I never said that I was lactose intolerant.

* Robert, I understand what you are saying.

* Fred, in our society, you really stand out because most people don't want to/don't have time to exercise. You seem to manage your time well since you can fit in jogging daily and going to the gym. Good for you. I don't think I've ever met a committed runner that was not in good shape.

* Ok, someone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no medical expert or anything (Dr. Cochran are you around?). But don't people technically die of lets say, kidney failure or a specific organ failure? No one technically dies of cigarette smoking, right? So wouldn't saying that smoking kills you be a bit far fetched too? Technically people die because smoking caused an organ to fail. The cause of death would be that failure.

Isn't that the same with this ad? Obviously milk won't directly give you ED, but the cholesterol in milk can clog your arteries, even your arteries down there...

Posted by: Jaclyn | December 18, 2007 02:36 PM

I thought this ad was hilarious yet I agree that people have been dring milk for ages and not everyone is dropping off like flies. But when you think what can be in milk( Got Pus? Milk does) it just turns you off. I drink Silk and I'm a proud member of PETA,but honestly we could do better with the controversial advertisements.

:]

Posted by: Shayla | December 18, 2007 02:54 PM

Milk is natural to drink if your a calf. Mother's milk was enough for me.

Posted by: Ana | December 18, 2007 03:25 PM

For another view on the soy "controversy" in opposition to Fred's link, check out:

http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/page/3476771.htm

Soy is only one part of what I eat. I normally stay away from mock meats and isolated soy protein. There are plenty of good vegan foods with excellent essential amino acid profiles.

From my research, I feel no need to be scared of soy. The meat and dairy industries use fear-mongering in an attempt to discredit soy, and thus, they hope, cause hesitancy in people considering a veg diet. The stakes (no pun intended) are big here.

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 18, 2007 04:08 PM

Jaclyn, you are correct that it would be very difficult to die of smoke inhalation from cigarettes. The evidence for causality is very strong that cigarettes do directly cause many diseases that would almost be unheard of if not for smokes. (lung ca, copd, for example). The saturated fat in dairy products has never been shown (to my knowledge) to directly contribute to ED. Keep in mind, to study this you would have to take into account the study participants comorbidities, including tobacco abuse, DM2 and diabetes. Undoubtedly if the milk drinkers were fatter and unhealthier (after the study was over) than the non-milk drinkers, they would likely have more ED.
ED is often an early indicator of atherosclerosis. The links often cited here regarding animal products and atherosclerosis are usually pretty weak. Obesity, diabetes, smoking, hypertension, and genetic predisposition are important risk factors for atherosclerosis. If you eat the wrong animal or plant foods in the wrong quantities you will be unhealthy. Case in point hamburger aren't particularly good for you, but they aren't any worse than Fritos or Ruffles. Venison, grass fed beef, free range eggs, soy, chard, fish, shellfish, spinach, turnips, bell peppers are all examples of things in the plant and animal world that are good for you. To imply better health by simply being a vegan is scientifically presumptuous. When you use yourself as an example you cite a study with an n value of 1, which is no study at all. Cross sectional studies are always cited here when comparing vegans to omnivores. CSS's are notoriously flawed because they do not account for selection and member bias. Vegans TEND to be more educated, affluent, females, and they account for less than three percent of the population. You can't compare that group to the general population and come up with valid science. That is like saying being Buddhist monk MAKES you healthier than the general population. I imagine they are, but you can't apply that causality due to extreme selection bias.
A selectively omnivorous exercising person is probably as healthy or healthier than a COMPARABLE vegan. A DBPC study is impossible to do here so we may never be sure.

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | December 18, 2007 06:59 PM

debbie, vacuum hoses and sensitive teats- have you seen a calf suckle? A milking machine would be pure joy in that regard.

mike, maybe it's because other animals haven't joined the agriculture revolution yet. Anyway, our cat loved milk, and he was well past weaning. I take your point on necessary, must be because we like it too.

Posted by: rojo | December 18, 2007 08:14 PM

When I wasn't a vegan I used to drink milk like 5 times a day and I never grew an inch, now a year later and I'm a vegan and I have more muscle and have grown more than ever before. ILY PETA!

Posted by: Josselyn | December 18, 2007 08:33 PM

Jaclyn, totally!! That was me! And Ana, lol!! I'm not saying it was "right" for me to decline "COWS' Milk"! All I'm saying is that it isn't something that "I" should be drinking in abundance, so "I" can advoid future complications, Freddie!! Do you "NOT" get it!! "Animals milk" "WAS" Meant to help animals, (in this case "COWS" "AND" "THEIR" calfs), Not us "Humans", I'll stick with my "OWN" Mothers' milk, Thank-you!! Untill I'm ready to produce my own amunities, which is now!!

Posted by: Carla | December 18, 2007 10:14 PM

Mike Quinoa,

Scott is a great runner and couldn't even come close to the accomplishments he has, and it is not my goal to run marathons. He is an outstanding athlete who has found that a vegan diet works for him, it does not work for me. For the record I run for my health, and because my current occupation requires a certain degree of physical fitness. I don't particularly like running but I do what I have to.

This is why I stated 'most" in my comment. In the same light I could make the same statement for most non vegans as well. I am simply stating that you don't need to be vegan to be healthy.

Like my mom used to say too much of anything is not good.

Posted by: Fred | December 18, 2007 10:48 PM

Silk for guys? Talk about being impotent. Keep taking in lots of soy guys, that'll keep the johnson working. Sheesh!

Posted by: Leirro | December 18, 2007 11:03 PM

so, now we shouldn't drink milk. Aren't vegitables living organisims? I think I am going to start PETV...
Have you seen the way they handle tomatoes in the stores? so cruel!

Posted by: meaty | December 19, 2007 12:30 AM

VAGetarians.

Posted by: LLIK SLAMINA | December 19, 2007 04:29 AM

Warwik

Vegan Santa is very potent? At what, assasination?, or fitting through the Chimney?

Posted by: Caboose | December 19, 2007 06:23 AM

Rojo said, "vacuum hoses and sensitive teats- have you seen a calf suckle? A milking machine would be pure joy in that regard"

watch the banned cartoon "Milking Time"
youtube.com/watch?v=edi6Ehw5OPk

I have 2 questions:
Where is the intelligence?
Where is the love?

Posted by: Warwak | December 19, 2007 09:49 AM

I don't think there is anything wrong with soy milk.

but this is a terrible ad. talking about Santa and impotence....

last thing a parent wants if for their kid to run across this ad and then ask why Santa is impotent and what that means, etc.

Posted by: kanne | December 19, 2007 10:43 AM

that made me laugh

Posted by: luna | December 19, 2007 12:15 PM

The ad is funny but if you do your research on Soy Milk it has actually be linked to Alzheimer's in men which is a big downfall to it, not to mention the various other bacterias in it that are linked to many other diseases. Just figured i would let people in on that.

Posted by: Kristen | December 19, 2007 01:45 PM

i can't figure out what "Vag-etarians" is supposed to imply?? I'm so surprised that so many anti-vegan/anti-animal rights people post on here. But I understand it's for the same reasons I post things on republican-conservative websites. Anyhoo, it's always the same thing...yada yada yada...bottom line: either you think it's possible that animals percieve/feel pain, or you think it's impossible (which contradicts every credible scientific study on pain perception in animals ever conducted)...OR you simply don't give a shit, like you don't give a shit about AIDS, or genocide in Darfur, or homeless people, or any injustice or suffering that WE HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE TO STOP. Quit pretending like we are entwined in the circle of wildlife still, no one is biologically predispositioned to eat animals, many civilizations have survived perfectly fine on vegan diets...stop using that argument, PLEASE...be smarter than that! Veganism is a philosophy that is parallel to the foundation of thought that moving towards compassion is imperitive for successful human evolution. Either you buy it or you don't...but think about this: In the 40's and 50's civil rights for black people was just as radical as animal rights is today...these stories of oppression whether it be women, blacks, jews, gays..or animals are all fundamentaly the same, so ask yourself, which side are you on?? btw...very funny ad, stop being so serious people!

Posted by: Nikki | December 19, 2007 02:03 PM

I knew you would come through Dr. Cochran!! :o)

I'm not into eggs though... free range or not. I got grosed out in biology when I was in high school.

Thanks for your comments!

Posted by: Jaclyn | December 19, 2007 02:35 PM

Fred,

I understand that you may not want to go vegan, but when you say a vegan diet doesn't work for you, have you ever given it a serious shot?

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 19, 2007 03:42 PM

warwak, cartoon?

No, my knowledge comes from my dad being a former dairy farmer, my cousins being dairy farmers and friends being sucessful dairyfarmers, in various places around the world. The love is there, intelligence too.

Mate, you need a better info source.

Posted by: rojo | December 19, 2007 04:40 PM

Holly Write: (and available at Wal-Mart, yippie)!

Wal-Mart - Talk about Not treating things well...Talk to an employee, they treat them like Shit! And Have you looked around a Wal-Mart? They sell LOTS of MEAT! And LOTS of LEATHER PRODUCTS. Shame on you Holly for entering such a place.

Posted by: Jack Degerlia | December 19, 2007 07:23 PM

Kristen said, "The ad is funny but if you do your research on Soy Milk it has actually be linked to Alzheimer's in men ."

Can you cite me a reference on that statement, since I've read soy actually helps prevent Alzheimer's.

Thanks.

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 19, 2007 08:24 PM

Soy has chemicals that mimic estrogen. The out come is likely the opposite of this ad.

Posted by: Mary | December 19, 2007 09:29 PM

Why do all you anti-PETA idiots "waste" your time reading and posting your crap on the PETA site?? If you need something to do, find a therapist, you need one. Like I said before, keep up the good work PETA.

Posted by: Whitney | December 19, 2007 09:38 PM

cute

Posted by: Crystal | December 19, 2007 10:18 PM

Now Milk causes cancer. Everything else does. Get a grip PETA. You're stretching it now.

Posted by: Jim | December 19, 2007 11:39 PM

Mary,

So you're saying that soy gives Santa an erection?

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 20, 2007 12:44 PM

God, some of you anti-PETA's are really taking this too far. There are political cartoons in the newspaper every week. We are just adding humor to what we believe in. I'm sorry that you are so incompetant to where you can't relize the pain you put cows through when you milk them. Soy is healthier, it tastes sweeter and it does no bodily(or mental) harm to any animals including ourselves. So what is the problem if we want to stop animal cruelty? Most people who are against PETA are just power hungry and strive to work over anyone who belives anything different from what they want you to believe. I'd rather drink soy, that is good for me and that does no harm to a producer, than to drink milk, which the process of milking can put the cow in pain,and leave sores, milk will also put an emphasis on future heart problems.
Soy brings joy. :]

Posted by: Shayla | December 20, 2007 02:43 PM

That title can be used in a perverted sense.

(Please dont flame me, Im just saying)

Posted by: Caboose | December 20, 2007 06:58 PM

It makes you impotent? Thats... weird

I love soy milk so ill leave it out for him =D

Thanks!

Silk Soy Nog?

I gotta try it!

Posted by: Adriana | December 21, 2007 12:34 AM

Jack Degerlia,

I did not say a word about WalMart!
it was BullyDawg | December 17, 2007 02:04 PM

Not me...

Posted by: Holly | December 21, 2007 10:26 AM

Shayla -

And what you say about anti-PETA people, they can say the same thing about pro-PETA people.

It's a two way street.

Posted by: Kristina | December 21, 2007 12:08 PM

Mike,

No I haven’t given it a real shot simply because I don't like the taste.

I have a sister who is vegetarian and so I have tried it, on several occasions, and to say it is a close, tasty substitute is totally inaccurate in my eyes. I have also had my fill of soy in the military as soy burgers, milk and such is generally cheaper and less likly to spoil.

It’s kinda of like drinking near beer, what’s the point.

I won't say you are wrong for eating vegan food, and have no intention of verbally bashing you because you do. In turn I would expect the same because I don't. I simply don't like the taste, and I have zero guilt while eating a bacon cheese burger.

Posted by: Fred | December 21, 2007 02:08 PM

Shayla,
GREAT post! I couldn't have said it better myself!
And unfortunately the anti-PeTA's can't say they realize -or care- about what the cows go through or try to stop animal cruelty - and mostly for putting ourselves out there for what we believe in despite all antagonism.

Posted by: Ariel | December 22, 2007 05:47 AM

Fair enough, Fred. I usually avoid the fake meats (near beer, as you say), but found after being veg for a while I didn't desire meat any more. I think the longer you are veg, the easier it is to remain veg.

Have a Merry Christmas!

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 22, 2007 01:15 PM

Ariel -

Your statement seems a little self-indulgent and pretentious. Anti-PETA people (if done right, I admit) put themselves out there as well. I'm anti-PETA. but not anti-animal rights, would you like to fault me for that?

As I have always said, my ears and eyes are open and I like to listen.

Would you still like to go with your blanket statement, "And unfortunately the anti-PeTA's can't say they realize -or care- about what the cows go through or try to stop animal cruelty ..."?"

Is it nice to be 20 yrs old and follow an organization blindly?

Posted by: Kristina | December 24, 2007 01:39 AM

Kristina,
The ironic thing is that Ariel purports to be much older than twenty.

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | December 24, 2007 06:21 PM

What has PETA done, killed the real Santa, and replaced him with a fat vegan?

Whoever did this, I hope you have high tolerance for .50 BMG rounds.

Posted by: Caboose | December 24, 2007 06:30 PM

Christopher Cochran -

You have an MD ... I would assume you could detect sarcasm when it is presented. I apologize if I am wrong.

Besides, I find you very interesting ...

Posted by: Kristina | December 30, 2007 02:15 AM