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Dairy Lawyers Threaten PETA Over "Got Milk?" Parody
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So, for several years now, we’ve been running ads, making stickers, and selling T-shirts parodying the well-known “Got Milk?” campaign, with some slightly less flattering slogans that draw attention to the fact that every glass of milk has a little bit of pus in it. We even had a full-fledged campaign for a while called “Got Beer?” which pointed out that beer is actually better for you than milk is, and encouraged people 21 and up to reach for a tasty pint of ale with a hint of hops instead of a glass of cow juice with extra pus. (This campaign was a big hit with college students—not quite so popular with the temperance groups though.)
Anyway, a few days ago we got this nasty letter from a law firm representing the California Milk Processors Board, accusing us of infringing on their trademark with our campaign. Apparently some functionary over at the California Milk Processors Board got his panties all in a bunch about our “Got Pus? Milk Does!” slogan and called in the suits. I’m guessing he was either still bitter over that time when we sued the California dairy industry over the blatant lies inherent in their “Good Milk Comes From Happy Cows” ads, or else feeling a bit ill after reading our site about what goes into milk.
Anyway, it’s pretty clear that they don’t have a leg to stand on, and I’m looking forward to their response once they get the smackdown from PETA’s lawyers. The good news is that this provides us with one more opportunity to talk about just how desperate the dairy industry is to hide the truth about the hideous cruelty, the unhealthy junk, and the vile substances that go into every glass of milk. Better luck next time, guys.
You can read the milk board’s letter to us here.
And you can read the response from our lawyers here.
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Got Crazy Lawyers? Milk Does!
Posted by: Aran | December 12, 2007 06:46 PM
This should be interesting. Are they trying to invoke food disparagement laws? Time to call Howard Lyman. Ride on, Mad Cowboy.
Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 12, 2007 06:50 PM
sick, I made the mistake of reading this blog while I was eating...
good one jack. thanks for posting the letters.
Posted by: Brooke | December 12, 2007 07:23 PM
hilarious
but not all beer is vegan iether...
Posted by: stasya | December 12, 2007 08:03 PM
Haha nice one, Aran.
Posted by: Canaduck | December 12, 2007 08:34 PM
Haha nice one, Aran.
Posted by: Canaduck | December 12, 2007 08:34 PM
I can't believe this!
there are lots of other campains
out there to critisise that are
even worse than PETA's but
they want to sue you?
this just proves how
cruel these people are.
Posted by: Courtney | December 12, 2007 08:44 PM
FANTASTIC response from PETA's lawyers! wow, PETA has an awesome team. The milk lawyer's letter was so hilarious! paranoid mofos.
Posted by: tinkerbellslayer | December 12, 2007 08:49 PM
unbelievable...we have got to be the dumbest and shame on us for being foolish stewards..to be barbaric and cruel and see no hear no dont exist....
Posted by: Merlin, the Mystic | December 12, 2007 09:16 PM
Great response from PETA's lawyers!
I think it is pretty ironic that the California Milk Processors Board's lawsuit is just going to bring MORE attention to PETA's campaign, and will in fact help PETA to spread the word about how disgusting milk really is!
Posted by: Michele | December 12, 2007 10:00 PM
I have to admit Peta has amazing lawyers. I hope this makes national news so more people can learn what's in the milk they drink. I am 100% sure that if people saw what goes on on factory farms, they would make serious changes in their diets.
I see this as a good sign that animal industries are feeling the pressures of the "humane movement" and are becoming desperate to silence their oponents. However, they underestimated their oponents. Big mistake.
PETA silent? NEVER.
Posted by: Nancy | December 12, 2007 10:37 PM
....Why are you so hawt?
Posted by: Kimberly | December 12, 2007 10:53 PM
Dont ban milk, improve it.
Posted by: Caboose | December 12, 2007 11:53 PM
"Got Crazy Lawyers? Milk Does!"
Haha.. Nice!
The lawyer from the milk industry amused me; especially how he says that there can be 'confusion', because the two are practically "identical". Haha.. It's almost as if they are ass-kicking themselves, because they are saying in a way that milk is indeed pus. Amusing.
The PETA lawyer is great! He completely pwned the milk industry lawyer.
Posted by: kitty | December 13, 2007 01:36 AM
isn't this kind of like Paris Hilton saying that she invented "that's hot" i'm so proud of PETA and i'm happy to be part of a community of people who have such wise representation!
Posted by: Russell | December 13, 2007 02:40 AM
What a topic! That pus story is by the way FAAAR OUT. Almost all milk is pasteurized today. That kills all bacterias. So no worries mate! Drink milk.
Posted by: Nadreas | December 13, 2007 04:03 AM
Way to go PETA - never back down to their level!
Posted by: John Carmody | December 13, 2007 06:23 AM
This is for real huh? Funny letter.
Posted by: Sarah | December 13, 2007 09:26 AM
I think that this just further proves the impact Peta has on the dairy industry! Otherwise they would not be wasting time or money on such a frivolous lawsuit. They are just looking for any way they can to bring down your marketing campaigns, because they work.....So I say congratulation Peta this just goes to prove your on the right track:)
Posted by: Dana | December 13, 2007 09:30 AM
I wrote a paper for a class recently about the link between dairy and teenagers getting acne. Absolutely disgusting. Here's a snippet:
In 2005, the Harvard School of Public Health published a landmark study of more than 47,000 high-school girls, concluding that the more cow’s milk the girls drank, the more likely they were to suffer from acne. While some scientists believe that the high amount of fat in milk is the most likely cause of the dairy-acne connection, the study found that skim milk was more likely to cause acne than the fattier milk. This suggests that there is something in cow’s milk besides fat that is causing acne. The researchers hypothesized that “hormones and bioactive molecules in milk†are causing people to develop pimples.
Dr. F.W. Danby, a dermatologist from Dartmouth College, explains why drinking cow’s milk causes zits: “Because drinking milk and consuming dairy products from pregnant cows exposes us to the hormones produced by the cows’ pregnancy, hormones that we were not designed to consume during our teenage and adult years.â€
Posted by: VeganFury | December 13, 2007 09:40 AM
The milk industry, good Lord.
They needed to be exposed.
What this legal attack against PETA will do is bring more publicity to the problems and more people will be exposed to the truth.
Pus in the milk is only a small part it,
cancers of the testes, prostate, and breast as a result of milk from modern dairy farms, where cows are milked about 300 days a year. For much of that time, the cows are pregnant. The later in pregnancy a cow is, the more hormones appear in her milk.
Milk from a cow in the late stage of pregnancy contains up to 33 times as much of a signature estrogen compound (estrone sulfate) than milk from a non-pregnant cow.
Rats fed milk show a higher incidence of cancer and develop a higher number of tumors than those who drank water.
The Harvard Nurse Study showed a link between dairy and endometrial cancer as well as Osteoporosis.
http://notmilk.com/kradjian.html
Read this...
THE MILK LETTER : A MESSAGE TO MY PATIENTS
Robert M. Kradjian, MD
And look at the poor cow, who has be be pregnant, milked, give birth, have her baby taken away to be used for veal(the more milk that people drink the more babies must be born and be killed so the milk can be produced by the poor cow), and then when she is all used up, they kill her too.
This will legal issue brings the Milk Industry back to the attention of the people who need the information to save human lives, save the environment, and the senseless suffering of the animals.
Posted by: Holly | December 13, 2007 09:53 AM
If we extend rights to animals, do we not also have to extend rights to insects?
Posted by: harrison schaerr | December 13, 2007 10:34 AM
Way too go, Peta!!! They don't have two legs to stand on, lol!! Dairy is a dying industry so these folks are trying anything to back up their claim "Milk does the body good", NOT!!! It increases your weight and could make you sick, give soy milk a try (unsweetened) can't tell the difference!
Posted by: Carla | December 13, 2007 10:45 AM
Caboose, you're my favorite 1/2 anti.
Posted by: Spay and neuter immediately, please | December 13, 2007 11:00 AM
WOW
Posted by: Jay | December 13, 2007 11:27 AM
HAHA, it's funny because you PETA people are stupid. In the above article you mention your previous lawsuit in the "Happy Cows" ads...so how did that work out for you? Did it get thrown out by the judge? Did the California Supreme Court refuse to hear the case? Yep. Of course you won't allow this post to hit your site, you peta people are worse than NAZI'S.
Posted by: JMU | December 13, 2007 11:38 AM
If cruelty and chemical free farming techniques were implemented, this would all be history.
Posted by: Caboose | December 13, 2007 12:42 PM
Great publicity its hitting the news all over the place...Some People who didnt know that milk was bad, will learn from this new publicity.
Associated Press :http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=7489435
FoxNewshttp://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec12/0,4670,MilkFight,00.html
New York Times http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/get-squeamish/?hp
Msnbc http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22223588/
News Day http://www.newsday.com/business/investing/wire/sns-ap-milk-fight,0,1725121.story
Posted by: Holly | December 13, 2007 01:00 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I confuse the words "got pus" and "got milk" on a daily basis...
Posted by: Loran | December 13, 2007 01:01 PM
This just proves your point that these are cruel and narrowminded individuals.
Posted by: Heather | December 13, 2007 02:38 PM
JMU
Please get an education. Comparing PETA and their advocates to Nazis is ridiculous. Nazis killed and tortured people on a whim for any reason. Animal advocates adhere to the philosophy of non-violence. Dumb and nasty comparison!
harrison
Insects have an important function in the thread of life; read about it and educate yourself.
Posted by: Ana | December 13, 2007 03:53 PM
Glad to see PETA is still effective enough to piss off morons like the milk people.
A little sorry, though, to see this:
"[PETA] encouraged people 21 and up to reach for a tasty pint of ale with a hint of hops instead of a glass of cow juice with extra pus. "
Why is PETA caving in to ageism and even promoting ageism? Fuck MADD. Last I checked, MADD gets most of their money from alcohol industry lobbiests who love age-limits on alcohol because it gives their product a cooler image.
We need future generations to continue the animal rights movement. We therefore need to reach youth; we can't let this movement die of old age.
So please, let's not turn off youth with blatantly ageist messages.
Posted by: Bill | December 13, 2007 04:12 PM
I would love to see Peta's response to that letter!
Posted by: Jaclyn | December 13, 2007 04:22 PM
I think it also should be stated that everything now uses the Got Something? Recently we seen a bumper sticker that said Got Wood? One can only guess what that is actually suppose to mean..but does this mean that all the other things that say Got this or that? Are going to be sued as well...Would it not seem fair that they go after everyone using this slogan even when not referring to milk? If they are going to go after everything using Got in front of it with a question mark at the end their going to spending a lot of wasted time, and money. The bigger picture is this the milk industry does not only inflict abuse upon millions of animals it is also harming humans in the process. Peta going after the milk industry not only helps the suffering animals, but also the humans that seem to think Peta is made of a brunch fruitcakes...stopping the dairy, and meat industry from their horrible practices directly impacts the benefit of humans. In the end if we will all work together both humans, and non humans will benefit greatly. So next time you go to buy milk ask the question Got Soy? instead.
As for the insect statement about extending rights to insects I for one do not harm insects for they have done nothing to me to deserve harm, and I think that everything up from earthworms play an important role in the balance of nature I promise no one thing was put on this earth with out a purpose a purpose that may be more beneficial to us than we even know. It is time for humans to jump off this high horse and realize one simple thing without insects, and animals the human race will parish...without us on earth insects, and animals would flourish. So with that said now who seems to be at the bottom of the food chain?
Posted by: Dana | December 13, 2007 04:49 PM
to harrison schaerr:
of course we have to extend our compassion to every kind of animals, also insects - they are fascinating lovely creatures and should in no way be harmed! i'm a big insect fan and for this reason every kind of insects are welcome in my garden and also my garden is wild and invites even rare species - let's hope that everybody thinks like this and doesn't harm these creatures!
Posted by: Don Quijote | December 13, 2007 04:59 PM
carla, milk production is not keeping up with the increased demand from asia. Even though they are the most lactose intolerent peoples on earth.
Buttter, cheese and skim milk powder have more than doubled in price in the last year or so. You're kidding yourself if you think dairy is waning.
Milk is high in calories, which should be kept in mind.
Posted by: rojo | December 13, 2007 05:18 PM
Yes! I agree with Carla, the Unsweetened Soy Milk tastes like plain milk! It's good good stuff!
Posted by: Jaclyn | December 13, 2007 05:24 PM
The best thing to happen to me was to turn lactose intolerant...
I can't stand the sight of milk any more, it literally turns my stomach. Not only because of my ailment but because the thought of what milk is and has in it..YUK!
One morning my mom ran out of milk and wanted cereal. I told her to use some of my soy milk. OMG you would have thought I told her to put dog...uh...stuff...on there
She did put the soy milk on her cereal, and actually lived through the experience. Not enough to convince her to switch however.
Funny thing is, when she cooks, she uses the soy milk. Go figure. Just an old stubborn mid-westerner, I guess...
Posted by: Tamara | December 13, 2007 05:45 PM
holly, interesting links, none of which give any credence to peta. If this is good publicity, i'd love to see the bad.
When articles mention past failures, it indicates a lack of support on the issue.
Incidently no-one in the articles has said "milk is bad". To do so on the basis of pus would fly in the face of current knowledge on the benefits of breast feeding. And it's not even pasteurized.
Posted by: rojo | December 13, 2007 05:46 PM
Okay, so here is a quote from Got Milk's website:
BERKELEY, CA, July 1, 2005– What do Got Fleas? Got Fish? and Got Freud? all have in common? They’re all rip-offs of the iconic advertising campaign, GOT MILK? Now they’ve made it on to the top 100 GOT RIPPED OFF? list. And they’re gaining recognition from an unlikely place, the GOT MILK? creators themselves.
“We love them,†says Jeff Manning, California Milk Processor Board (CMPB). “They actually help us sell milk. Consumers hear Got Muscle? or Got Mongoose? and say ‘What a stupid rip-off of GOT MILK?’â€
So why don't they sue all those 100 companies?
Posted by: Ryan | December 13, 2007 05:53 PM
Cows are my friends, and I don't suck my friends tits. SOYMILK ALLL THE WAY!
Posted by: Josselyn | December 13, 2007 06:14 PM
Carla & Jaclyn,
I get Natura unsweetened soy milk here in Toronto. It's made from whole organic soybeans. It comes in aseptic Tetra Paks. You'll never miss cows' milk.
Rojo,
This is from a Canadian milk producers' website:
"The Canadian dairy industry has made significant productivity gains without the help of expensive government programs. The United States and the European Union on the other hand, continue to dole out billions of dollars to their farmers.
A recent study published by Grey, Clark and Shih, international trade practitioners, reveals that US dairy farmers can get up to 1/3 of their income from direct government payments."
Posted by: Mike Quinoa | December 13, 2007 08:11 PM
Nicely done PETA! I'm proud to be on the peace team!! Hopefully more people will want the t-shirt! Ha! Love to all!!!!!
Posted by: Iswari | December 13, 2007 08:29 PM
The press only needed to say Got Pus, Milk does, and Peta , and the rest does not matter. I tell you this is only the beginning of more publicity which will bring the evils of Milk and its consumption to the public again. Publicity, is Publicity...
Posted by: Holly | December 13, 2007 08:44 PM
Congrats to Peta lawyers for their great work!
I hope they back down and all the while that this makes the news to uncover the grotesque "industry" it is. The fact that is called an "industry" is telling as this enables people to forget that cows are sentient beings who have societies, needs, feelings, children, and a right to not endure a life of torture called "industry". WAY TO GO PETA - I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS AND ACHIEVEMENTS! Special thanks to all the brave undercover investigators that make the sick industry secrets public!
Posted by: carolyn | December 13, 2007 08:51 PM
The Milk Industry has totally gone crazy and this is the final straw. I am now going vegan after 7 months of vegetarian.
Posted by: Eric | December 13, 2007 09:52 PM
PETA's lawyers (as they always do) just totally handed their asses to them!
Posted by: Jason Levy | December 13, 2007 11:28 PM
I'm hoping for national news coverage! I became a vegan after watching the horrible slaughterhouse videos. My concern was not health but compassion for the animals. I've seen learned so much more. I ONLY use soymilk.
Here's a valid comment: We are the only species that continues to drink milk after we are weaned and it isn't even our mother's milk but a cow's, which is meant for their calves.
When are the people in this country and in the world, for that matter, going to wake up? No one can think on their own. They eat what they are TOLD to eat and never think to question it.
Posted by: Cathy | December 14, 2007 12:15 AM
Holly
You condone animal testing?
Spay and Neuter
Why do you say that?
I guess no one knows what pasteurization is.
Posted by: Caboose | December 14, 2007 06:29 AM
caboose,
No, I do not condone animal testing, how ever the testing was done and the results are out there.
Posted by: Holly | December 14, 2007 08:31 AM
Pus in Milk is gross, so is manure that is found in Milk. Pasteurization takes care of the the germs and bacteria but the pus and manure are still in the milk only cleaned up. That's not the worst problem with milk, even though its gross to know about. Health risks for those who drink cows milk are great, even for children, the environment is destroyed by the massive number of cows. The run off of manure that goes into the water ways destroying stream, river, bay etc. wells that people depend on for drinking water are full of manure run off.
But beyond even that, the Poor Cow, She is kept pregnant, milked, gives birth, has her baby taken away shortly after birth, so she can be milked so people can drink her baby's milk, then the cycle is repeated until she is all used up, then She is Killed so people can eat her, and use her skin etc. Does not matter how you look at it, drinking milk is a huge health risk, distroyes the environment, and is devestating to the life of the poor cow.
Posted by: Holly | December 14, 2007 09:23 AM
i made the mistake by eating while reading this also.great job.
Posted by: Molleah Williams | December 14, 2007 09:40 AM
I became lactose intolerant years before I became a vegetarian, but would still use "Lactaid" if I wanted to eat ice cream or yoghurt. Once I saw the videos and read the accounts of what happens to cows used for dairy (and the spin-off veal industry), it was very easy to take the next step and become vegan. For me, it had nothing to do with the pus in milk, it was due to the horrible lives these cows have to lead, just for human convenience.
Whenever I feel like eating an "ice cream" treat, there are so many delicious alternatives out there, like So Delicious brand (ice cream bars, and soy ice cream for example). I just tried the Vitasoy brand "Holly Nog" (couldn't find Silk brand Nog in my city) and actually liked it (I never, ever liked Egg Nog before!). They have "parmesan" substitutes, and soy cheeses that taste the same as dairy cheese, if not better.
There is simply no excuse for continuing to use cows for beef, dairy, veal or leather!
Posted by: Michele | December 14, 2007 09:57 AM
Good job PETA!
That is my favorite slogan, i bought two t-shirts on your site one for me and my Fiancee!!! Its a hit!
Keep up the great work!!!!!
Posted by: Shaila | December 14, 2007 11:55 AM
I'm surprised they're doing this - from what I understand, this campaign would fall under the category of a parody (like SNL skits using ad slogans) and is perfectly legal.
Dopes.
Posted by: Maya, Master's candidate, wildlife biology | December 14, 2007 02:40 PM
So you are saying to make the cow extinct since they are a plight on the environment?
Michele
Or at least phase out abuse and concentration camp esque conditions.
Posted by: Caboose | December 14, 2007 03:53 PM
mike, I come from the land of the truly free, where our farmers live without subsidy. Though the govt does match R&D dollar for dollar.
Neighbouring New Zealand is becoming one of the most respected dairy producers in the world, also without subsidy.
Posted by: rojo | December 14, 2007 04:19 PM
Holly, publicity can work both ways then. Were you aware that after the news releases on nitrosamines(jack did a piece a few weeks ago on chicken nitrosamines, bacon is worse)
that bacon sales rose by something like 20% in the UK?
Posted by: rojo | December 14, 2007 04:31 PM
Lets not forget Rice Milk, and the Nut Milks like Almond, and Hazelnut. These milks taste good and are great for everyone, and for people who cant tolerate Soy.
Posted by: Holly | December 14, 2007 04:35 PM
You people are IDIOTS!! Milk does not contain pus or blood, and beer is far, far worse for you than MILK!!
I know that this comment will probably be filtered out because it contradicts you. Any loser who thinks that the lawyers are wrong is an IDIOT!!
Posted by: Josh | December 14, 2007 04:52 PM
Josh, I grew up on a dairy farm and I can tell you first hand that milk does contain pus, blood and manure. The milk is tested for these things and it is noted as to how much is found. The milk industry allows a certain amount of all these things to enter the market, and milk jug you buy. and that is the truth...
Posted by: Holly | December 14, 2007 05:17 PM
I hope they sue your collective asses into the poor house.
Posted by: Fred | December 14, 2007 08:54 PM
It wont kill you
Drinking milk is not evil, ur just drinking.
At least milk doesnt interfere with automotive law (DUI)
Posted by: Caboose | December 14, 2007 09:45 PM
If you were raised drinking milk and told that Milk is part of the building blocks that keep you healthy then you are brain washed to believe it. It will take more time for you to catch on. Cigarette smoking at one time was thought to be safe and good, but after time passed and doctors saw more and more people getting sick, and people were dieing,then things changed. And Milk will be the same. They will have to put warning labels on milk boxes telling you, The Surgeon generals warning: If you stop drinking milk now it will greatly reduce serious risks to your health.
You will see, and learn the truth with time. But like smoking, you better stop now before you get sick. So wise up, stop drinking the Milk, save your life and the lives of your family and friends...
Posted by: Holly | December 15, 2007 12:50 AM
ok so now i finally like a lawyer...mr. zissu
Posted by: george | December 15, 2007 11:51 AM
While I think it is great that Peta is educating the public on how unhealthy and downright cruel it is nowdays to be consuming animal products I wish someone would now address the tabu subject of overpopulation that contributes to the mass consumption of animal food. Too many people - Too many animals slaughtered for food.
Posted by: Mary | December 15, 2007 12:50 PM
Good for you!
Posted by: Nick | December 15, 2007 02:28 PM
OH YES!!! Great job PETA. Let's condemn all the organic milk farmers out there! That will fix all the world's problems. Why don't you attack the auto industry for being a scorge on the Earth...
NO WAIT!!!! You don't want to give up your $100+ gas month bill for your precious SUV.
Get real PETA. Attack farmers and the like when you are willing to attack the auto industry as well.
Global warming screws not only humans but animals as well. No humans; no saving of the fucking wildlife either.
Posted by: C.J. | December 16, 2007 01:13 AM
Thank you Caboose!
I would like to think that women would rally against a cause that would help cure breast cancer ... but I can see that most women would rather let themselves, their children, grandchildrn, etc, subcome to the diseases then find a cure.
Yes! Long live animals - in the meantime ... I hope breast cancer overtakes you and the people you love.
Posted by: Lisa Howser | December 16, 2007 01:43 AM
The best scenario which shall arise shall involve results far worse for the milk industry by such a lawsuit.
Imagine, the results of merely CNN Headline News covering this got milk, got pus issue.
What is the first thing to occur among viewers, find out for themselves what they never knew before.
Imagine, monies lost to the milk industry based upon jerkoff lawsuits.
Not supporting neither lawyer firm, just think about what the consumer shall learn about Got Pus compared to its better success already established from Got Milk.
Posted by: Hope to see the media channels mentioning, got pus | December 16, 2007 02:43 AM
I am amazed at how upset people get over the prospect of giving up milk. The fact is that the milk industry is dirty, disgusting, and harmful to animals, people, and the environment. There are tons of healthy substitutes for dairy. Maybe all you gluttons should stop thinking with your stomachs for once and use your fucking brains for a change. Peace
Posted by: Avril | December 16, 2007 10:51 AM
I dont think that Jack had anything at all do to with bacon sales going up in the UK! Prove it!
Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 10:05 AM
C.J.
"Worldwide livestock production produces 18 percent of humans greenhouse gas-MORE THAN OUR CARS, TRUCKS, MOTORCYCLES, MOTORBOATS, JETLINERS AND CRUISESHIPS- All forms of travel, the locus of our "addiction of fossil fuels." this is a quote from United Nations food & Agriculture Organization.
Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 11:09 AM
Are Vegans and Vegetarians really Healthier?
Take the Vegan Health Study...
Be part of Nutritional History!
Participate! in the Vegan Health Study online at http://veganhealthstudy.org//
Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 11:20 AM
Check out The North American Vegetarian Society, this is a wonderful group that teaches good nutrition through a Vegetarian/Vegan diet. They are the founders of "World Vegetarian Day." And also have a Wonderful vegetarian "Summerfest" each year in Johnstown Pa. at the University of Pittsburgh. a Five day experience packed with cutting edge Educational sessions. Opportunities to meet other vegetarians and vegans. Its a Wonderful time! Check them out. They played a large roll in my becoming a Vegan, and learning how to eat well, for my self, the environment and the animals.
http://vegetariansummerfest.org/
Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 11:43 AM
Mary
I agree. There are many groups addressing the issue of human overpopulation (in Asia, Africa, Latin America, Muslim nations). Go online and see the many groups trying to do something about it! :) Peace!
Posted by: Ana | December 17, 2007 01:27 PM
Holly-
You can always make a statistic work for whatever you're trying to prove/endorse. I wouldn't put too much stock into that.
Posted by: C.J. | December 17, 2007 02:40 PM
CJ,
The plain, simple, and common sense point is: vegan/vegetarian is very healthy. And that is the truthful fact, whether you choose to believe the true, proven statistics or not. It is also logically healthful for the environment as well.
Posted by: Ariel | December 17, 2007 03:55 PM
Lisa
WTF is your problem you psycho? Not everyone has to agree with PETA. Just shows your mentality.
Posted by: Caboose | December 17, 2007 04:06 PM
C.J. That was a quote from United Nations food & Agriculture Organization.
Presented to the U.N. in the report on Global Warming.
You can not dispute it, its a documented fact.
Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 04:19 PM
and, Ariel is right!
Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 04:23 PM
Hey Caboose where do you live?
Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 04:39 PM
You have to see this, its soooooooooooooo FUNNY! really check it out everyone!
http://www.davidkowalski.com/
Posted by: Holly | December 17, 2007 04:51 PM
holly, then you are obviously aware that 82% of GHGs are not caused by agriculture.
It always perplexs me that the UN study includes the transportation emissions of transporting animal products, and then compares it to transportation. Double dipping.
Posted by: rojo | December 17, 2007 07:33 PM
Holly, didn't say Jack did it, only mentioned the news was part of one of his posts.
I was commenting on the reaction to the news, not where it came from.
Jack, this is not meant to underestimate your impact in the UK.
Posted by: rojo | December 17, 2007 07:39 PM
Holly
I live in City 17.
Posted by: Caboose | December 17, 2007 07:49 PM
funny?! NOT!
nothing more than dumb, twisted, EXTREMIST left hogwash!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 17, 2007 08:17 PM
Here is an interesting article for all you Soy lovers out there.
I would say there is pretty impressive list of credentials at the end too. Exactly why I won't expect to see this entered to the blog any time soon.
http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm
This article may explain some of the irrational and psychotic behavior of a large portion of the PETA population.
Posted by: Fred | December 18, 2007 06:46 AM
Holly
I go to Blood Gulch, Black Mesa, and Ravenholm on the summer.
Posted by: Caboose | December 18, 2007 05:51 PM
Caboose, you live in a fictional city? You are an interesting person!
I do hope you have a very nice day, and enjoy your game playing...and your fictional City 17!
Posted by: Holly | December 19, 2007 11:26 AM
Holly
It was a joke.
Posted by: Caboose | December 19, 2007 05:00 PM
I find it difficult at times to continue my diet because I feel I'm just one person which probaly does not make much difference. there is so many c.j's here in Idaho that don't care about animal suffering. I love soy milk at times I can't afford the substitutes for all dairy products. I don't eat meat at all - 5 yrs now. I have to drive by a dairy daily to go to work and they have to live in their own feces and mud no shelter and you can see they have diarea. Yeh, I bet these cows are happy.
Posted by: Naomi Brooks | December 19, 2007 06:31 PM
Fred,
I find the disclaimer at the bottom of the page from link you provide of great interest .here it is for all to see:
disclaimer: Throughout this website, statements are made pertaining to the properties and/or functions of food and/or nutritional products. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and these materials and products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
© 2002 by Marc Leduce
Now look at the bottom of the Milksucks.com notice the fact a DOCTOR said this:
"There's no reason to drink cow's milk at any time in your life. It was designed for calves, not humans, and we should all stop drinking it today."
-Dr. Frank A. Oski
Former Director of Pediatrics, Johns Hopkins University
You are aware that the dairy industry will do anything they can to hold on to their profit right? You do not think the milk industry is just going to go down without a fight do you? They have spent millions of dollars to lie to us about the health benefits of milk products for years why stop now.
I think that first you should study the different cultures that for poverty reasons mostly used soy as a replacement for meats I want you to compare these cultures that once had only tofu products, but then switched to our great western diets............Look at the difference in the rates of diseases before, and after the proof is all there for you to see....again I will advise someone read John Robbins book Healthy at a 100.........Using the negative soy web sites that I promise are funded by the dairy industy is only a way for you to justify your dairy intake.
Naomi hang in there girl you are doing something to help these animals, and the environment around you sometimes it may seem small and not enough...but it is Rome was not built in a day...I know seeing those animals in such awful conditions is hard...just keep remembering your diet choices are all for them.
Posted by: Dana | December 21, 2007 12:53 PM
Ok, this is ridiculous! Beer is not better for you then milk!!! Milk is a natural source of calcium, and is needed for the development of bones! Calcium in soymilk is artificially created in the lab and is not as well absorbed by your body as that in cow milk. Yes, milk has impurities in it. That is why it is PASTURIZED to kill off any unsafe contents. I really don't like what this Peta website is doing. It is brainwashing people in to thinking that animal products are bad for you. Well, you need protein to survive. Your body uses it to grow and develop. Meat is a rich source of Vitamin B, which is necessary for your body. And, fish contain your Omega 3 Fatty Acids. So, when consumed in moderation, meat is quite healthy for you. As far as being vegan, well, unless you are taking a lot of supplements, you may find that you have one or more nutrient deficiencies. Ok, and please stop with the got beer campaign. As if there are not enough drunks on our streets and highways already...
Posted by: pavlik | March 25, 2008 02:56 PM
i dont think milk is this bad the world over. i live in new zealand and go past farms all the time. cows are kept in paddocks and eat grass. ive been on farms and they are all humane. you guys in the u.s.a probably have worse treatment of animals.
Posted by: sam | March 25, 2008 11:34 PM
IF ANY AMOUNT OF ANTIBIOTICS IS IN MILK IT IS NOT USED!! laws on milk are soo strict you have no idea what your talking about... its hilarious to read this and it angers me how ignorant you are to this- milk has vital nutrients and vitamins to provide to people.. your scaring people off
Posted by: Unknown | April 24, 2008 11:14 AM
This is giving me a craving for some tasty cereal.
Posted by: Bogswallop | July 11, 2008 05:33 PM
Awww man does this mean no more breast milk either?
Posted by: disfinger | January 14, 2009 08:12 AM