she said nothing to the millions of people in the
South that she insulted yesterday in her comments.
actually , i think her comments were on the lame side.

Posted by: carole stroupe | September 5, 2007 12:25 PM

Too late Whoopi.
You have lost a great fan.
Judith

Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | September 5, 2007 12:26 PM

I agree with Whoopi. We should address it from the roots, get to the source of the problem and educate these kids that grow up in that environment where they think these types of things are normal and are ok. Once they are accustomed to that way of life, it's hardier to change thier viewpoints. Michael Vick is only sorry that he got caught, he's not sorry for what he did!!

Posted by: Desiree | September 5, 2007 12:27 PM

whoopi - i still love you and your photography still stands in my library! i knew that you didn't mean it like that!!!

Posted by: animalfriend | September 5, 2007 12:41 PM

Thank You Whoopi!

and thank you for caring and clearing it up

I just wish that more celebs could get involved in trying to educate our society about things like dog fighting that NO child should witness.

Posted by: kelly | September 5, 2007 01:03 PM

Well I'm sorry, but nowhere in this apology do I see any mention of the derogatory statement about the south and southerners and our culture.

Posted by: Tena Faruque | September 5, 2007 01:35 PM

I am glad that Whoopi apologized, however, it is difficult to believe that she did not think through her comments before the show.

Posted by: Peter | September 5, 2007 01:38 PM

And she gets off the hook that easily. Why because she is black and they are hands off, even when they are wrong? She should get the IMUS treatment! Anything less is racial prejudice!

Posted by: Stephen Wagner | September 5, 2007 01:54 PM

Whoopi needs to think before she opens her mouth. Evil is evil regardless of where you're from. Stop looking for excuses for what Michael Vick did! It's revolting.

Posted by: Mary Tropeano | September 5, 2007 02:03 PM

I think this is really ashame!!!! Whoopi has given one of the most politically correct responses to this Mike Vick situation I have ever heard; And PETA Prez sends her a rebuttal? Why doesn’t any one go after cock fighting in PR like Whoopi said? Or people eating cats and dogs in china like Whoopi said? Honestly? Why would you attack a person’s opinion when she gave such pure fact!!! Working people in the south don't appreciate that? Who cares!!! It’s a fact that dog fighting is all over, and especially in the south!!!! Comics even made jokes about people making animals fight in the past even before Mike Vick. Mike Epps just did it about a year ago on his stand up special on HBO!!! This is pure crap and it's so sad how we have be come such a sensitive country now, you can't even state your opinion with out issuing an apology!!! That sucks!!! PETA also needs to realize that the gov't isn't going after Vick because of the dogs, and dog fighting is not just illegal for the sake of the animals, but for the pure fact of gambling!!! That’s it!!!! You guys really need to leave Whoppi alone for this one. And what about hunting animal for sport/game? Killing an innocent animal just for fun? Why isn't the media attacking that?

Posted by: Jay | September 5, 2007 02:10 PM

It's all well and good that she straighted out the fact that she is not defending Michael Vick but I think she needs to apologize to the people she actually insulted.

Posted by: sherri | September 5, 2007 02:58 PM

I think everyone in America appreciates this apology. Thank you PETA for everything you do!

Posted by: Erica | September 5, 2007 03:16 PM

AS USUAL PEOPLE WANT TO COMPARE THE ENSLAVEMENT OF A PEOPLE WITH DAMN DOGS.

WHAT MS GOLDBERG SAID AND IMUS
SAID WERE DIFFERENT.

Posted by: Herbert | September 5, 2007 03:36 PM

Well said, sherri. She needs to apologize to the south too. If I were from there I'd be seriously insulted. I still think it's good that she apologized, though.

Posted by: Canaduck | September 5, 2007 03:49 PM

I think this is a bunch of you know what.The only reason anything she said is such a big deal is because he is michael vick. I not saying what he did was right but at the same time you have people every year shoting and killing animails for sport but i guess thats ok cause those animals are wild.If your going to act all a wow about this problem let see how many of you will be out there on a pickett line while hunting season is goning on.

Posted by: sipboy | September 5, 2007 03:58 PM

I agree - too late Whoppi. You should have stated how wrong dog fighting is and calling it a sport is no excuse. I don't believe in killing any animal, but dogs and cats are companion animals in this country and this is not accepted. I'm so tired of hearing people say "well in this country they eat dogs, in this country cock fighting is acceptable, in that country they eat cats". Guess what people in the USA, none of this is acceptable here!!

Posted by: Amy Bitting | September 5, 2007 04:06 PM

I'm just tired of hearing everyone make excuses for Michael Vick. The NAACP will stand behind anyone that is African American regardless of what they do. It just seems like a lot of famous African Americans are standing behind him. Maybe people in the African American culture don't see anything wrong with torturing innocent dogs, but most people do. So, let's not put this on Southern Culture. I am Southern, and I believe Hell has a special place for people who mistreat animals. If Whoopie wants to blame a culture for Michael Vick's actions, maybe she should look at her own.

Posted by: Sharon | September 5, 2007 04:10 PM

I am not a pet owner, and I have nothing against them, but I wish that we had a group like "PETA" in america, that would protest the rights of unborn babies, who are being killed and slaughtered like animals in the name of having an "Abortion". Some have killed not 1 or 2 but 3 or more babies, all because they were ashamed or mere selfish in wanting to bring an innocent child into the world. Why not go after the doctors, who are making big bucks on taking an innocent life. Any women who have killed their unborn child and is mad at Michael Vick, I put you both in the same category. One has murdered anminals and One has murdered babies. So if the shoe fit wear it.

Peace.....

Posted by: Cindy Black | September 5, 2007 04:19 PM

I heard Whoopie Goldberg's statement pertaining to the Michael Vick accusation and ultimate guilty plea for dog-fighting among other things.
In no way did I find her comments to in defense of Vick, she was merely pointing out that many situations have root problems as opposed to what we see on the surface.Because she wasn't screaming for a pound of flesh from Vick, dosen't mean she condones his actions.Besides anyone who can gain any amount of pleasure, albeit, entertainment, financial gain, or for sport, must have some deep seeded problems in there heart and mind.Just in Whoopie's public eye she does alot for human and animal kind alike, and there's no telling what she does privately. So don't be so quick to Judge, because that makes you no better than the ones you so hastily condem.

Posted by: terry | September 5, 2007 04:35 PM

Its not enough. She is only apologizing now because things started to get hot!! You can not take back the things you say on TV. Think before you speak.
Yes, I WAS a fan to. Now however...

Posted by: Misty | September 5, 2007 04:39 PM

I heard Whoopie Goldberg's statement pertaining to the Michael Vick accusation and ultimate guilty plea for dog-fighting among other things.
In no way did I find her comments to be in defense of Vick, she was merely pointing out that many situations have root problems as opposed to what we see on the surface.Because she wasn't screaming for a pound of flesh from Vick, dosen't mean she condones his actions.Besides anyone who can gain any amount of pleasure from this cruel and heartless act, albeit,for entertainment, financial gain, or for sport, must have some deep seeded problems in there hearts and minds.Just in the public eye Whoopie does alot for human and animal kind alike, and there's no telling what she does privately. So don't be so quick to Judge, because that makes you no better than the ones you so hastily condem.

Posted by: terry | September 5, 2007 04:39 PM

Whoopi, you are a menace. Saying this is a problem in the south - really? I've lived in the south for over 50 years and no one I have ever known has ever mentioned this cruel act or condones it. Let's talk about your beloved big northern cities - guess what, they are not above reproach either. I used to love you - now I ignore you and the show.

Posted by: Brock White | September 5, 2007 04:54 PM

Whoopi, you're right - you were not saying that what M Vick did was right, but you were implying "he must not have known it was wrong because of his cultural, Southern upbringing!" Vick is not even from the "deep South for starters!" You go on in your apology to say; "I watched the show ... that is a sports show....what I saw made me take a minute to think about what happened with this kid, ...the culture of dogfighting, and so I thought to myself—well, if you're raised in it, that may be a reason why you're acting the way you have been acting." You took a minute? "One minute" to comment on a very prickly issue that has raked the nerves of a civilzed & pet loving nation? Only one minute? Then, you say you "went on to pose this as a discussion, and somehow—I don't know how this happened." Are you serious Whoopi? Think before you speak and next time take more than a minute!

Posted by: janet godkin | September 5, 2007 05:01 PM

I would like to know if you have a email address for Disney and ABC. I'm unable to find either. Please advise
thank you

Posted by: RJM | September 5, 2007 05:06 PM

First off, I want to say that Michelle Cho & PETA is full of themselves. They constantly grandstand on this issue. Hum, I just saw where they`re cracking down on dog fighting but no PETA supporters. See, this is a bunch of bullshit. That`s right, I said it. Someone needs to address this. You only jumped on the bandwagon because he was young, black, rich, famous and stupid. Stupid thinking he had friends till the chips were down then he truely saw who his friends were.
I knew your "clan" was full of bullshit when you marched in front of the Falcons training camp after he was told not to join the team. Again, grandstanding. No one threatened you with a law suit but when a black prominent person speaks up, you throw a law suit at them..., hum, more grandstanding. Yes, i`m also throwing the race card in there too because it`s true. America is scared to admit this is racial profiling.
Yes, we don`t condone the treatment of the animals, the sport of dog fighting but you had bigger fish to fry. I hope he does NO TIME and tells you to kiss his black ass!!!!!!!!!! This situation did not warrant the major publicity it received but to bring prominent black folk down for a killing of a dog. He never killed a person, wasn`t caught drunk driving and crashed his vehicle yet those "white" celebrities are glamorized, have camera`s on them as they exit jail yet a young black man kills dogs and will do 18 months in jail yet you pounce on him and anybody who stands up for him. Well, pounce on me. I`m standing up for him in the fact that his skin is the same color as mine and is being treated unfairly throughout America where other so called prominent black a
Americans are scared to say what they truly feel. Well, i`m a very poor black American so not worried about Mr Cho suing me. For what even? Because i`m expressing my views. Tough titty. Yes, i`m very upset at this organization, Micheal Cho. If you didn`t only stop here I could live w/this but there aren`t anymore "pep rallies" to get these crazy people on TV.
You need to fair about what you`re doing. Yes, what he did was wrong. Dog fighting should be abolished. I don`t condone the act of killing dogs because they`re not the top dog so to speak but my beef is w/the organization marching when it`s not necessary at the Training camp, suing Whoopi Goldberg to to get this meaningless organization intentioned. Ms Goldberg is an American who was born here as were her ancestors. We can voice our opinion but Mr Cho is trying to take that away and i`m speaking up and out. Hell, I never heard of your organization until Micheal Vick make a stupid mistake. Seems like you owe him. Now you`re in the spot lite. Sit down Cho, this is America. No one condones his actions and its repeated over and over but his story didn`t need as much attention as it got. Whatever happened to the referee who was caught cheating on games....seems like it went under the radar. You should have marched there since you like grandstanding.
Lp.......

Posted by: Les Paul | September 5, 2007 05:16 PM

In response to a post by Jay at 2:10 PM - Sept. 5, 2007.
Right off the bat you must be an animal abuser or dogfighter with these awful and stupid comments! Believe me MANY people are trying to get animal abuse, cruelty, and especially dogfighting stopped! This is our main goal. These are the most beloved animals and will give it's owner nothing but total unconditional love! I agree with ONE thing you said though and that is we should go after Cockfighting too! Correct & we do! All fighting and all abuse and cruelty to animals is what it's all about! Let me educate you ... Dogfighting IS A FELONY! Got that? So, it IS a big deal and I will keep sending money to the funds for rewards for people to keep turning these jerks in who dogfight! Let me educate you again ... I was born and lived all my life in the North! I now live in the South! Dogfighting is out of hand everywhere! This is NOT just in the South you jerk! And, Michael Vick has pleaded guilty to dogfighting which is the Felony! Gambling is in there of course as he bought all the property, dogs, paid for the purses, etc... with his NFL money! So, you are right it's both of those and much much more. Please read the 19 page and see what else he did unlawfully! He is a low life scum! He is very lucky he had high priced lawyers to keep from going to prison for 5 years or maybe even 20 years under the RICO charges he could have been charged with. Therefore, Whoopi needed to have not even made that comment and once she saw it was not good ... then she made her apology! It's not up to you to stick up for her! She can handle it herself. And, did so! No one especially on TV should say to commit a FELONY is OK ... as it is NOT! More and more are going to be going down on this charge too as they won't have all the money Vick did. Plus, don't forget Vick has to turn some people in under his plea agreement! And, one MORE thing I need to educate you about is HUNTING which is totally LEGAL with a hunting license! That is the BIG difference you are too stupid to think about. They regulate that, there are huge fines, punishment, and a lifetime ban on hunting if you don't follow ALL the rules. I have never known one person who legally went hunting to not bring it home immediately to have it processed and they eat it and/or donate it to shelters where people are hungry! BIG difference! This is not just a "blood sport" to watch poor innocent dogs HAVE to tear each other apart for hours on end! That is a sickening, gruesome fact! One legal shot from a gun while during the ONE week of deer hunting or whatever season and animal ... is not illegal and this is the HUGE difference. I hope you may have learned a little from what I have attempted to sink into your pea brain! DOGFIGHTING is a FELONY and IS ILLEGAL! Period! Once you learn the facts then maybe make a more intellectual comment. You showed how ignorant you are and that you condone abusive behavior against animals and are racial against Southerners! you need to grow up as Michael said he needs to do! Ha! Right he is 26 years old and is STILL immature? Not for all the years from 2001 to 2007 in which he got busted. He knew exactly what he was hiding and lying about, he is just sick to want to watch that as he surely didn't need the money. I hope he never plays football again and that our VA. judge will charge him on more State charges too! And, maybe you should visit all sites including:
www.PETA.com, www.hsus.org., and the www.aspca.org and see how hard we all fight and write to try to get backing from our legislators to try to make more humane changes in the law for the good of ALL animals besides sending money to fight this also. You sure are not educated in anyway to have made these stupid WRONG comments.

Posted by: Debbi | September 5, 2007 05:20 PM

Whoopie needs to be responsible for what she says. I'm sorry but I don't give a damn whether this guy (Michael Vick) had an upbringing where he was exposed to dog fighting or not-NO ONE SHOULD EVER ABUSE ANIMALS! NO MATTER WHAT! Her statement to me makes it sound like Whoopie is making excuses for him or trying to bring about some public sympathy. No Way! Here was an extremely gifted and wealthy guy who is obviously scum and should be made an example out of.

Posted by: Christina de los Santos | September 5, 2007 05:27 PM

I was shocked by what Whoopi GOldberg said in defending Michael Vicks actions. I don't care where you were raised you know that it is not appropriate to fight and torture animals. Dog fighting is barbaric! She is disgusting!

Posted by: Eileen | September 5, 2007 05:32 PM

Ms. Cho should have as much respect for the rights of free speech as she does for animale rights. It was good of Whoopie to make an explanation since none should have been required. She gave an observation .... and since when does she not have the right to do so?

Posted by: Lynda | September 5, 2007 05:38 PM

Whoopi's the one who defended buying her mom an ermine coat & she eats meat &
wears leather & breeds miniature horses & defends her right to exploit animals in so-called women's magazines. What's up with "Peta and I talk.." ??
I'd like to hear from folks at my beloved PETA that this is true. Or was Whoopi just using PETA's name& rep.??

Posted by: Tee | September 5, 2007 05:41 PM

Thanks for the clarification Whoopi. I got her point when I first heard the comment on the View. I think people are losing the real battle for change by becoming too opinionated and judgmental. She stated a cold fact, a truth. Someone has to say it, and everyone else has to listen, that is the responsibility. You have one mouth and two ears so maybe you should listen twice as much as you speak.

Posted by: tspoon | September 5, 2007 05:46 PM

Jay--Thank you for standing up for Whoopi, and shame on all of you who actually believed she was defending Michael Vick. Let's recognize there is a problem with dog fighting and fix it. I am sure there was no implied insult to people who live in the south; but, rather to imply we should be aware of some cultural practices that should be corrected reguardless of the geographical location.

Posted by: Suzy | September 5, 2007 05:47 PM

apology not accepted, keep your big mouth closed next time

Posted by: carolyn | September 5, 2007 06:10 PM

I never took Whoopi's comments as an indication that she was defending Vick's actions. I took it as an analysis of part of what would encourage Vick to engage in this illegal activity. I think this one was blown out of proportion a little. I also think Michelle Cho, president of PETA, need not combat Whoopi about stereotyping when she does the same thing with her comment "...and what unites them is lawlessness and callousness, not whether they eat grits or Belgian waffles for breakfast." It's alright to point out culturally how a breakfast meal may vary from region to region, but not ok to point out more controversial incidents that actually do, in some measures, draw from the cultural influence where they occur? If Whoopi has reword part of her statements, so does Ms. Cho!

Posted by: Mitch | September 5, 2007 06:21 PM

well then i was never a fan anyway so that clears up my prob IM GOIN VEGAN AND I DONT APRECIATE THAT!!!!!

Posted by: andie | September 5, 2007 07:36 PM

Dear PETA
Whoopi's comments are too little and too late. She was just using this topic to promote herself on the view to get very much exposure. She knew what she was doing, and she DID NOT apologize for what she really said, "that dogfighting is a part of southern culture" and therefore it should be excused. I would demand much more from a star of her calibre. I will never watch "the View" again until she is no longer a part of it.

Posted by: Ruth Kurth | September 5, 2007 07:43 PM

I wrote to the view stating the exact same thing as Peter did. Imus lost his job for bad taste comments about black women. I wonder if that team was white and he called them blonde bimbos would any action have been taken.

Posted by: erika | September 5, 2007 08:11 PM

I adore Whoopie. I'm really glad she explained her comments. Please don't crucify her for her thoughts; at least she is keeping the subject very much in the face of the American public, where it needs to be!

Posted by: Kealey | September 5, 2007 09:07 PM

First of all, It is really sad that you people have wasted time on this issue. Michael Vick made a mistake...now how many of you all have made a mistake and has NEVER been caught? I am sure most of you PETA supporters and PETA itself have done wrong. You guys are judging other people but should cast the stone on yourself. I am not in support of hurting animals and I do think that people should be more considerate, but to disband, judge, use racial slurs and degrading people is not the way to do it. In the south and anywhere else they are killing animals by dog fighting evreyday. You all just found peace in getting a celeb. There are a lot of underground operations that you do not know about. I suggest you get your funds together, rent a truck and go scouting. If you think that you can end this because of one person you all are sadly mistaken. What about deers, rabbits, squirrels, chickens, ducks, horses, pigs...are you all activist for them? Do you find it easy in your heart to know that they are slawdered too? Humm you are probably thinking that it is ok cause its a source of food. But you are wrong they are God's creatures too. Get a grip people...you are being judge too.

Posted by: success | September 5, 2007 09:14 PM

I sent ABC News a suggestion that they have Whoopi -- cool, hip Whoopi -- host an hourlong "NEWS REPORT" on why it was and is great for Southern White Supremacists to lynch and torture black people and bomb black churches and kill black children because it's their "culture." She said it for one cynical reason: a clear message to all the racist bitter black people that she's right with them on the side of every black no matter how heinous their acts. Don't be fooled -- her statement was for black "street cred" -- nothing else. Her "apology" is total b.s. -- ex-fan of Whoopi.

Posted by: LAURA DALTRY | September 5, 2007 09:23 PM

Yes, I think Laura Daltry is right. You know, I hear that child prostitution is "cultural" in many places. And illegal drug use. And gang violence. And female genocide. And genital mutilation. And theft. And murder. And any kind of corruption. Hell, any kind of crime can be deemed "cultural". So, yeah, let's just turn a blind eye to everything that's criminal, or, I mean, anything deemed "cultural" by the likes of Whoopi G. Where will that get us? Anarchy. Shame on her and her lame, lame apology. Such ignorance.

Posted by: VestaGirl | September 5, 2007 09:57 PM

I also think she owes an apology to the South. We are one of the few groups left it is still PC to show bigotry against. I have lived in the Carolinas my entire life, and have never been aware of anyone I know participating in dog fighting. The people I know who have dogs love them and consider them a part of the family. I am sick of ignorant people from other parts of the country perpetuating these ridiculous stereotypes.

Posted by: Anne | September 5, 2007 10:09 PM

I will never watch The View again. I cannot believe the comments Whoopi made....it probably doesn't matter to her whether we watch her TV show or movies again but I'm just telling you, she is so 'OVER" as far as we're concerned. She makes me absolutely sick.

Posted by: Louise Ables | September 5, 2007 10:37 PM

Whoopi did not condone Vick's actions at all...she simply pointed out that it was a cultural thing (no matter how much you want to deny it, it IS a cultural thing) and that that is where the problem lies and that is where we need to attack this stuff...at the roots.

We should all be happy that dog fighting is out in the open now as an abhorrent act. If nothing else comes of Vick's conviction of this horrendous crime than a huge wake up call for the concentrated cultures in the south and midwest that think dog fighting is okay, than this whole mess was a productive thing.

I love Whoopi and know that her comments were not "pro-dog fighting"...

If we respond to her insightful comments in such a hasty way, screaming for a pound of flesh at our supporters...soon we will have no supporters for animal rights at all, and become the crazed, radical lunatics that many people believe PETA to be (Penn and Teller anyone?).

We need to rise above this angry, vile, lynch-like behavior...if we behave like the vengeful mob in the Frankenstein tale than we are not at all behaving in the "kind, compassionate and cruelty-free" way that we claim to espouse.

We need to be compassionate and understanding and thoughtful and forgiving...only through this behavior will we show what PETA is really all about.

Let's show some maturity and be kind to all animals...including humans. Let's think before we scream eh?

Posted by: Christopher H. | September 5, 2007 10:38 PM

Yeah, yeah Whoopi, you sound SOOOOOO sorry. In fact, you sound only concerned for the condemnation that your comments have received and the effect that those comments are having on your public image. Let's have a Real APOLOGY with some sincerity in it.

Posted by: Aria | September 5, 2007 10:51 PM

I wrote both "The View" & "ABC" today regarding Whoopi's comments on Vick.

Whoopi gets a slap on the wrist from PETA AND THEN downplays her comments on The View today (saw the video not the show), which just makes me even angrier!!

Furthermore, not one Entertainment Talk show commented on Whoopi's so-called "debut" today (Sept 5th)! Not even one!

An ABC spokesperson even claimed to the NY Daily News this morning that they did not get "one single complaint." Bullsh&*t!! Over 300 angry posts lined ABC's weblog yesterday & 200 today!

Talk about censorship & protecting your pals in Hollyweird!

No one wants to hear about Paris Hilton's drinking binges anymore, let Anna Nicole rest in peace already & we're sick & tired of OJ's mugshot on TV.

Let's see someone challenge Whoopi on why she thought it wise to start her new job defending a quack like Vick!

Posted by: janet godkin | September 5, 2007 10:53 PM

Cultural thing my ass!!!
Just another poor attempt to excuse that piece of shit for what he's done. Regardless of what the southern culture is when it comes to dog fighting, its no secret that it is illegal. You cant excuse a felony with mere attempt to call it your "culture".

Posted by: alisa | September 5, 2007 11:16 PM

I was appalled when I read Whoopi Goldberg’s comments yesterday, but she has been gracious and thoughtful in her apology. I think it’s impossible for Ms. Goldberg to tailor an apology that will please everyone who was offended by her remarks. I was very angry that she used the “Southern” environment as if it were a legitimate point for Vick’s unconscionable actions. In the calmer light of today, I understand what she was attempting to say and I think her detachment, when commenting on Vick’s actions, was nothing more than a person who thought she was having a discussion rather than someone who was holding Vick up for vindication because of his “wonder years.”

She has apologized and this Southerner appreciates her timely and tactful apology.

Thank you, Whoopi!

Posted by: Joan M. | September 5, 2007 11:21 PM

A MISTAKE? How many times should a person get forgiven for making the same mistake in 7+ years? On purpose. Michael started dog fighting operations in his parents' garage while he was in his teens. His father begged him to stop and told him it was wrong. So much for Whoopi's Theory of Culture.

Posted by: Ann Clarke | September 6, 2007 01:21 AM

she is a fool and always was.

don't like her movies...don't like her...she has all the charisma of a lettuce.

she should be fired before she comes out with any more brainless comments

Posted by: dawn | September 6, 2007 07:16 AM

Whoopie said exactly what she meant the first time. Kinda hard to save face and ass at the same time uh, Whoopie !

Posted by: Tommy Thompson | September 6, 2007 07:45 AM

It appears the View has replaced one BIG Mouth for another...

And I must say I agree with Sharon... between my husband and I we have three (3) dogs that we love dearly and a seven (7) month old baby who I love more than life itself, and this entire episode has greatly disheartened us, especially living in VA and being big Hokie Fans.

There has been such an uproar over the way these animals were treated which I believed is well deserved, but what about the innocent lives of unborn babies that are taken EVERYDAY in this country? I love animals probably more than most, but still find it disconcerting that we are more concerned about the inhumane treatment of these dogs than the slaughter of innocent unborn children. Should only CERTAIN innocent lives be protected? What kind of crapo double standard is that? If want to advocate for the protection of innocent lives, it should be for ALL innocent lives.

And a note to Whoopi: You can only make excuses for people for so long. Regardless of what type of enviroment you were brought up in or how you were raised, there comes a time when you have to make your own decisions and be responsible for them. And as a resident of Southern VA I can tell you that this is definately NOT a normal or accepted behavior here.

Posted by: Angie | September 6, 2007 09:27 AM

gosh, whoopi, the south was none for slavery, too. does that mean the usa should regress even farther than they already have and bring back slavery? i bet you will say no to that one. get with the program. environment does not mean a person has to continue sick and cruel behavior. my brother hunted rabbits. but, i am not a hunter. i am the opposite. i am an animal rights person and i don't eat meat. the problem is vick became cocky and greedy. he is not sorry for what he did. only sorry that he was caught and found out the general american public don't condon his actions. there is no excuse for animal abuse of any kind. so, don't try, whoopi. i thought better of you. but, i guess i was wrong.

Posted by: kathy | September 6, 2007 09:34 AM

I do think Whoopi's comments were not taken completely in context. I agree with her--we do need to think about the circumstances and the environment that encourage animal fighting when coming up with solutions to erradicate it. As long as there are large groups of people throughout the country who accept and/or participate in this behavior, we will never end it. There are not enough law enforcement officers and jails in the country to lock all of this trash up. Understanding this culture, through listening, and then working with people to change the problem will do more than shrill hysteria in the long run. We need to attack this problem through education (particularly in schools) when kids are still young enough to have honest emphathy for all living creatures. One of my favorite quotes states "It is impossible to reach out effectively to help others without having experienced a revolution within," is true-- we must change the attitudes of these people--especially their young.

Posted by: Kelley | September 6, 2007 10:09 AM

Why Whoopi would compare people that just killed animals for fun.And others who do eat them is not the same.

I would not eat a dog or a cat.But some of these countries at one time had to resort to eating these animals.
Thats like people in Africa sometimes yes they have to eat Wild Animals.And I don't like to kill any animals.
But Micheal Vick just killed them He didn't eat them there's a differance.

Posted by: AnitaO | September 6, 2007 10:21 AM

It's not very nice to be funny or topical at the expense of dogs who are tortured & killed. I think she should lose her job on The View.

Posted by: Marcia Dearborn | September 6, 2007 10:45 AM

I lived in south Mississippi for 29 years and in South Carolina for 4 years and I can personally say that it is NOT common or acceptable to fight dogs or kill and mutilate animals there. Vick knew very well that what he was doing wasn't acceptable. I lost all respect for Whoopi after her ignorant comment and defense of an admitted animal abuser. Her lame statement about having adopted from shelters and her love of animals sounds exactly like a person trying to back out of a racist comment by saying they have black friends or someone saying they have gay friends after having made an inappropriate comment. I personally will never see another movie she is in or watch any performance. I also will boycott any company that endorses her. She should be removed from The View.

Posted by: Kim Knight | September 6, 2007 11:10 AM

I understood what Whoopi was talking about the first time she said it. Some cultures are big on animal abuse while others completely shun it. I was outraged when I heard what Michael Vick was doing and clearly wanted him to pay for his actions. I am an Anthropologist and we are taught to be understanding of a culture no matter our own personal beliefs, but as a vegan I sometimes become too enraged to actually see that the problem isn't just an action ... it's a mentality ... his world views differ from us... they aren’t right...but this is where we step in and educate him and the world. Animal abuse is clearly wrong… but we should understand his mind set at the time… and give him a chance to completely redeem himself from his actions. At one point I ate meat, which would make me look like barbaric to some, but I found out the consequences of my actions and I had a change of heart… and now I am vegan. When this story came out I never thought I would be for second chances because I was far too upset because the animals didn’t get a second chance. But then again, aren’t we better than that? I do not believe in animal abuse, I don’t condone it.

Posted by: Green Girl | September 6, 2007 11:12 AM

WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT DOG FIGHTING IS RIGHT WHOPPI. AS FAR AS WHAT THE SOUTH THINKS, THAT'S DIFFERENT. I AM FROM THE SOUTH. ATLANTA, GA. YOU ARE RIGHT PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH FIGHT DOGS ALL THE TIME. THEY KNOW IT. AS A MATTER OF FACT HERE IN ATLANTA PEOPLE SPOKE OUT ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF MICHAEL VICK BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN DOG FIGHTING ALSO. THEY DID NOT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT EITHER. THEY DEFENDED BY SAYING THE DOGS ARE TRAINED TO FIGHT AND THAT'S ALL THEY KNOW. THESE PEOPLE WERE NOT BLACK EITHER. I JUST THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT IN THERE. I DON'T CONDON THIS ACTION AT ALL. HOWEVER IT IS A REALITY. AT THE TIME MICHAEL VICKS HOUSE WAS RAIDED THE LAW FOR DOG FIGHTING WAS A MISDEMEANOR. IT WAS AFTER THE FACT THAT THE LAW WAS CHANGED TO A FELONY. THE PETA GROUP IS THE REASON FOR THAT. NOW WONDER WHAT ALL THEY DO TO ANIMALS. THAT GROUP IS ALL ABOUT MONEY. IT IS A SHAME THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOSE YOU LIVELYHOOD OVER A DOG. NOW ANIMALS ARE BEING LIFTED ABOVE MAN AND THAT'S SICK. NOW THE OTHER RACES EAT THEIR DOGS!!!!!NOTHING IS SAID ABOUT THAT. THE SENATOR FROM VIRGINIA IS ALLOWED TO BE A SENATOR AFTER HAVING BEEN A GRAND DRAGON FOR THE KLU KLUX KLAN. HE SANCTION THE KILLINGS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.NOW THAT'S ALRIGHT BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST MERE PEOPLE. SO HE GETS TO LIVE HIS LIFE FREE AND EASY AND BE RICH HAVE ALL OF THE GOODIES IN LIFE. WHEN AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE HAVE DIED BE HIS HANDS AND NO ONE WANTS TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!! WHERE WAS PETA WHEN DOGS WERE BEING TURNED ON SLAVES THAT RAN AWAY!!!!!! OH IT'S OK TO USE DOGS TO DESTROY PEOPLE. AMERICA WE STILL DON'T GET IT. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK WHOPPI. I LOVE EVERYTHING YOU DO. I'LL BE WATCHING THE VIEW NOW THAT YOU ARE ON.

Posted by: NARDYNE CANTRELL | September 6, 2007 11:13 AM

Why is it that people don't actually LISTEN before they make comments. All of the SUPPOSEDLY intelligent people condemning Whoopi Goldberg for her statements are themselves making asinine statements because they didn't listen. She said throughout her statement that she was not condoning dogfighting, but she was just trying to understand where his frame of mind was when he was participating in it. All of you that said she should apologize for insulting people from the South, should first realize that just because you are from the south doesn't mean that you know about everything that goes on in the south. Eventhough dogfighting happens in other areas,it is prevalent in the south. When this story broke, I had family members that said that when they were growing up in the 60's,there were a lot of incidences of dogfighting. So, dogfighting didn't start with Michael Vick and it's not going to end with him; it has been going on a long time and I'M NOT CONDONING IT, just stating my opinion. It's a shame that people can't give their opinion anymore without condemnation. Just because you disagree with something or someone doesn't mean that you are judge and jury about what others can or cannot say. Whoopi has the right to her opinion about M. Vick without having to apologize later just like those of you who don't care about Vick have the right to your opinion. One more thing, how many of you boycott game hunting (deer, duck)(considered a SPORT);dog racing,(considered s sport and gambling)where dogs are euthanized after they are of no more use;the Humane Society(where animals are euthanized for the simple reason of the kennels being overcrowded with unadoptable pets?) Where is the outrage there? Killing is killing. I don't see PETA protesting that. Some of you probably have a deer head on your walls right now and are probobaly at the dog tracks every week gambling on those poor dogs for money. A helpless deer is the same as a helpless dog.

Posted by: marnita lawrence | September 6, 2007 11:23 AM

nardyne cantrell:
are you really dumb, blind and deaf enough - not to realize that this here is about animal rights! you have not to tell here that we are putting animals over people! i neither don't go to a human rights blog for to tell them that they put people over animals! i think that this should be once more clear here at last! and why you fuck up here with the ku klux klan! it's not peta's task to care about the klan but about animals!

this is an international website concerning animal abuse - animal abuse - animal abuse - animal abuse and not the ku klux klan - i hope that this time you got it really!!!!!!!

Posted by: Little Drummer Boy | September 6, 2007 12:29 PM

I hope those of you who claim to know for sure that dog fighting is so popular in the south are taking steps to report it and stop it. Unless, of course you don't have any first hand information, then that would be wrong to claim something like that and not really have any proof. I am sure it happens places in the south AS IT DOES EVERYWHERE (for example in Arizona - DMX - just an example). People have a choice to support or not support Whoopi after her ignorant remark. Why must some of you feel you need to tell everyone how to feel? Personally, I am no longer going to support anything with her career until I hear a sincere apology from her instead of her backstroke to save her ass with peta. She is certainly entitled to her opinion but if she has knowledge of this illegal activity going on, then I would hope she is helping to stop it.

Posted by: sherri | September 6, 2007 12:30 PM

Listen up, dog fighting is NO more prevalent in the south than anywhere else in the country. Slavery was prevalent all over the world not just in the south. I have been an animal educator for five years. I am very offended by Whoopi's "Southern" crack. Watch animal plantet's Animal Cops, animal cruelty is everywhere, ignorance and stupidity is everywhere.

Posted by: Kim | September 6, 2007 12:38 PM

Nardyne and Marnita- it is painfully obvious that you have NO IDEA what Peta does, or supports, or the many actions for animals that they have taken.

It is pitiful when small minds are so blinded by celebrity and wealth.

It is also sad how many "family members of dogfighters" there are out there defending dog fighting.

A lot of people take a lot of money from torturing dogs.

Posted by: kelly | September 6, 2007 01:28 PM

Anyone who has followed Whoopi over the years knows this isn't the first time she's opened her mouth and spewed out garbage. It won't be the last. The View should have learned from having Rosie. I no longer watch that program obviously because the network keeps hiring losers!

Posted by: Anna | September 6, 2007 02:29 PM

We were appalled at Whoopi Goldberg's comments defending Michael Vick and his deplorable actions. We have written to ABC and urge others to do the same. Abusing and killing defenseless animals is no more part of "Southern Culture," as she opined, than cross burnings or lynchings. All such actions are against everything civilized people should accept. Whoopi made a huge mistake and showed her racial bias in defending a convicted criminal simply because he is an African American. Candidly we don't care what someone's ethnic heritage or "cultural background" are there is no excuse for such treatment of living beings.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2007 02:56 PM

People don't just fight dogs in the south--they fight them in my part of the woods--Maryland. As a matter of fact, anywhere you find rednecks (and they are everywhere, as being a redneck is a state of mind, not geography) you will find dog and cock fighting).

Whoopie should use this opportunity to reach out and let people know how wrong dogfighting is, not say Mike Vick should get a break because he grew up in that environment.

Mike loved the blood sport and he should pay big time. His fame was a ticket to walk away from his past. The fact that he not only fought but killed these animals in a cruel way shows his true self. He enjoyed seeing dogs suffer. That is enough to ban him for life, as people like Vick never change.

Posted by: Maggy | September 6, 2007 02:56 PM

I can't believe that ABC said they did not get complaints. Surely that must be a mistake. I emailed one immediately myself. I'm sick of this being made a racial or cultural issue. It has to do with ethics, morals, and the &*cking LAW. I don't blame Southerners for being incensed.

Posted by: L. | September 6, 2007 03:27 PM

Janet Godkin, you asked for the e-mail for ABC, it's easy, it's abc.com, if you want to get in touch with the view use abc.com/theview and make your feelings known.

Posted by: nan mcclain | September 6, 2007 04:11 PM

PETA are the type of people to step over a homeless person to spit on someone wearing a mink.

I'm from the south and I'm not offended by Whoopi's comments one bit... and neither was my dog.

Posted by: Andy Thorn | September 6, 2007 04:41 PM

Angie

This is NOT a forum/blog for unborn children; this a forum/blog for animal rights. No one is giving too much attention to the dogs, it is about time that the dogs finally do get the air space about how barbaric dog fighting really is.
There is no double standard here regarding the animals. I am a vegan as so many animal advocates are. But there is hypocrisy with pro-lifers; they will kill doctors or nurses and bomb clinics that perform abortions and see nothing wrong with that. Pro-lifers will scream about unborn children but sit down to eat a steak and wear fur. Pro-lifers care about the unborn so why not show the same passion for the already born---the other animals! Human beings are not being raised in farm factories to be eaten...the other animals are.
The suffering of non-human animals is extreme and in the billions. Billions of people ignore their cries; there are very few who not only hear them but who try very hard to help them. Plus, again, this is not a forum/blog for abortion or pro-life stances it is ANIMAL RIGHTS BLOG/FORUM. And those dogs weren't simply inhumanely treated, they were slaughtered violently. How about the billions already born animals slaughtered all over the world? Does that bother you? How about the calves just hours old torn from their mothers and then slaughtered after just hours being born? How about the calves thrown on the ground in piles because they are considered useless? How about the male chicks ground alive to death? How about the unborn lambs torn from their mothers'wombs in order to be skinned for their fur? They are the unborn also. Where is your sympathy for these babies born and unborn that were so callously slaughterd? If you are concerned about the unborn human get in touch with any Catholic site---they will like that. Your criticism about PETA and animal advocates is unwarranted; we just happen to care about the billions of non-human animals that suffer every second daily and are slaughtered every second everyday while billions of people don't care. Being compassionate is something to be proud of and I am.

Posted by: Ana | September 6, 2007 04:44 PM

I wonder why I haven't seen a PETA riot in NY at the Precinct of the cop who's partner died after being left in a hot car for 10 hrs. The cop is what, a cop, white, right? PETA's been all over Vick but not a peep or certainly no protest to remove this cop from the force for leaving his dog in a hot car. Proves my point about Vick. If Vick had been white, the reations would have been different. Just like Whoopi. If the comments had been made by a white women, some of you wouldn't even have a post. It's just like you to pretend to be unbias but you are what you are - prejudice to the core!!!To those of you who are white, spare me on what African-Americans must feel or know. You know nothing about my people except for your prejudice.

Posted by: CasBrown | September 6, 2007 06:06 PM

Since when does Whoopi Goldberg not have a right to her opinion? Although I consider dogfighting to be disgusting, ignorant and low-down, I am aware that there are others who feel differently. Michael Vick is not the czar of dogfighting in America - I'm certain there are many so-called "nice people" deeply involved as well. It's just easier to scapegoat the "evil darkie." I wonder how many of the 60 or so dogs that were confiscated in this case have been adopted by any of you hypocrites? Remember, the economic boycott works both ways. Nike's stock would plunge overnight if black consumers stopped buying their products.

Posted by: Monique A. Young | September 6, 2007 06:47 PM

A Bizarre Dog Attack Shakes San Francisco

*Please Note: Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. More information.
February 1, 2001, Thursday
By EVELYN NIEVES (NYT); National Desk
Late Edition - Final, Section A, Page 14, Column 1, 1136 words
Correction Appended

DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - Two Canary Island mastiffs, rare breed, attack and kill Diane Whipple in hallway of apartment building, sending dog-loving city of San Francisco into spasms of grief, shock and recrimination; blood bath in hallway is so horrific that police officers at scene are given trauma counseling; city's Animal Care and Control Center puts to death 120-pound dog that killed woman, and holds second dog in custody; case takes bizarre turn; dogs are owned by two lawyers, Robert Noel and Marjorie Knoller, who have legally adopted 38-year-old white supremacist prisoner, John Paul Schneider; Schneider runs attack-dog breeding business from his prison cell, and dogs involved in killing came from that business

Correction: February 4, 2001, Sunday An article on Thursday about a fatal attack by a dog on a San Francisco woman misspelled the surname of a spokesman for the California Corrections Department, who said the animal came from an attack-dog business run by two prisoners. He is Russ Heimerich, not Heimrich.

Posted by: Jake B | September 6, 2007 06:58 PM

That's no apology- and, calling him a "kid" as if he didn't know better. What a farce- again, a disgrace to civilized humanity and those who are ethical human beings.

This an apology? When we're talking tortured life and death for these innocent souls? No way. This was a very generalized fluff statement. My intelligence and moral code is highly insulted as well as are my beautiful girls- both pit bulls who could have been murdered or tortured too.

SORRY!!!

Posted by: Jolene | September 6, 2007 07:43 PM

day late dollar short if you ask me. . .She spoke of "cultural" situations; I still do not understand how it can be condoned as a "cultural" thing. . .inflicting pain on a defenseless being . . . so would she also defend pedophiles because it is in their "culture" and that's what they "grew up in"? Common! Gimme a break - can you say foot-in-mouth disease? Personally, I hope Michael Vick's case serves as an example.

Posted by: Claudia | September 6, 2007 08:49 PM

Thanks for saying that Whoopie. I never really thought you were taking Vicks side, but there are people that would think that. As far as any insults that people in the south may have felt, that should not even be an issue. People get over yourselves. Its about the dogs, not you.

Posted by: Jeana | September 6, 2007 09:57 PM

This comment is for all the stupid people on here that say that she was wrong.If you like her or hate her she has a point.The area you grow up in does have a lot to do with what he was doing and why he really didn't see to much wrong with it.Like i said the only reason people wanted to judge him is cause one he is black and two he in the spot light. I'm pretty sure people like payton manning and other football players gun down animails for sport.I guess thats ok cause your going to bring the animail home after you kill him and stuff him and put his head on your wall. I agree what he did was wrong but don't try to make like putting a bullet through animails head is so much better than what he did. If you want to do right go out and protest during hunting season and let see how much they talk about that on the news.

Posted by: sipboy | September 6, 2007 10:53 PM

READ TO SEE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT MAN'S BEST FRIEND IS CAPABLE OF

There is a dog bite epidemic in the United States. There are almost 5 million victims annually.

800,000 need medical attention. 1,000 per day need treatment in hospital emergency rooms.

Approximately 26 die per year. Most of the victims who receive medical attention are children, half of whom are bitten in the face. Dog bite losses exceed $1 billion per year, with over $300 million paid by insurance.

2YEAR OLD SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY DOG
A two year old boy in the suburbs of Buffalo, NY was sexually assaulted and then attacked by his family pit bull terrier. Police said the toddler was in his home on Washburn Street about 2 p.m. Sunday when the pill bull attacked. According to police, the dog sodomized and assaulted the boy.

MOM THROWS BABY IN TRASH CAN TO PROTECT FROM DOG ATTACK
The owner of a pit bull that attacked a woman and her baby Tuesday surrendered the dog to the police Thursday, officials reported.

40-year-old Angela Silva told NBC11's Ethan Harp she was walking out of her garage with her infant son in her arms in the Warm Springs District Tuesday morning when the dog, named Swisher, approached her and attacked.

Silva is recovering from puncture wounds, NBC11 reported.

"He wanted to hurt me. It was there to hurt me," Silva said.

Silva said her son started to cry and she thinks that aggravated the dog even more.

She said she threw her baby boy in a trash can to protect him. Meanwhile, she suffered injuries on both arms as she tried to keep the animal from attacking her child.

The city told Harp Swisher bit another neighbor in May.

BABY DIES AFTER ROTTWEILER ATTACK
A five-month-old girl has died after being attacked by two Rottweiler guard dogs in Leicester.

Police say the dogs, which attacked the girl in the living quarters of The Rocket pub in Stephenson Drive, New Parks, have been put down.

The girl was taken to Leicester Royal Infirmary on Saturday afternoon where she later died from her injuries.

The dogs are very aggressive - everybody around here is petrified of them!

Neighbour Amy Grimbley said: "The dogs are known to be vicious. They stay on the roof during the day and whenever you walk past, you get the feeling they could jump down and attack you.

"The dogs are very aggressive. Everybody around here is petrified of them."

DOG BITES OLD LADY TO DEATH
"Everybody is talking about it. Nobody can believe it.
84-year-old lady Rosa Radonja has subcome to severe injuries brought on by a dog attack. While she was walking along the Sarajevo Airport district, the only lady was bitten by a mountain sheep dog, owned by Tarik K. Police notified that, in spite of a fast Ambulance intervention, the old lady passed away on the spot. The attack occurred in the vicinity of her home, and only several meters away from the owner`s house.

A two year old girl who lives near White Swan is airlifted to Seattle's Harborview Medical Center. This after being viciously attacked by her dog. Three more of her family members were treated at Yakima Valley Memorial Hospital.[3]

Four family members are in the hospital after their dog got loose from its chain and attacked them this morning in Yakima County.

Posted by: SOUTHERN GIRL | September 7, 2007 12:15 AM

I am just as upset with PETA for letting her off the hook with her comments as I am with Whoopi for what she said.

Posted by: Adrienne Summers | September 7, 2007 12:25 AM

There is nothing more indicative of future anti-social behavior by human beings than cruelty to animals in early life. I am now 60years old and I witnessed cruelty to innocent creatures early on by heartless individuals. I always did my best to stop it. I knew in my heart and soul it was wrong. I tried to rescue every hurt injured defenseless creature I encountered. Whoopi Goldberg is making excuses for Michael Vick because of the culture he was brought up in. Give me a break. I was born into a culture of predjudice and cruelty and I condemn it. My husbands family were hunters, intuitively he knew it was cruel and wrong. Come on people, do not let this woman get away with this statement with her lame excuse about culture defining morality. Both Goldberg and the NAACP have made me ashamed I supported them in the past. You do not defend a wrong simply because it is commited by one of your own race, religion or socio-economic group. Lets make some real progress and come down hard on celbreties or organizations that defend cruelty in any form.

Posted by: sandra l | September 7, 2007 08:02 AM

to CasBrown:
what kind of a poison spitting racist are you! do you think that we have to repeat this on every singal blog here! this is not about race issues - you idiot! why do you come on this blog shitting on white or black cops! i'm not interested in racist issues neither on

abortion
o.j. simpson
vietnam war
irak war
ku klux klan
charles manson
kobe bryant
etc. on this blog

but i won't be tired to repeat it again and again! you just think that you can finish us with racist arguments but on this point you are wrong! i'm behind you and i catch you up on every blog! you bunch of brain-ill racist illiterate ffffffuckers! and besides this: you don't know my color - so think before you shit again garbage!

Posted by: Lord of the Apes | September 7, 2007 08:34 AM

Whoopi raises a bigger issue: how are we to rise above our cultural roots? Each and every one of us must question the morality of our heritage. If no one did that, we'd still be living in slavery, women would have no rights, there would be no vegans among us, and so on. We must all break the shackles of society. Whoopi knows this, to be sure, but didn't articulate it very well.

Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2007 10:15 AM

There was a man in South Carolina who got 30 years in prison for dog fighting. Michael Vick is not the first. He is getting all of this attention because he is a public figure, not because he is black. He tortured, drowned, electrocuted these dogs and admitted to it. Are we supposed to sweep it under the carpet because he is black???? What kind of example does that set? PETA is People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals not for the homeless or the pro lifers, there are other organizations for that. Somebody has to take a stand against animal abuse. I also happen to know that as of Tuesday at 8:30 am there was 63 comments on The Views website complaining about Whoopi,s comment. So basically ABC is full of it. I will never watch it again.

Posted by: Kim | September 7, 2007 10:56 AM

Ana, while I recognize your passion, calves are very valuable and costly to produce. I've never heard of piles of useless ones, nor of slaughter only hours after birth. Calves grown for veal are usually between 4-12 weeks old.
The "unborn lambs torn from their mothers'wombs in order to be skinned for their fur" comment is beyond nonsense.

Posted by: rojo | September 7, 2007 11:04 AM

Whoopi said nothing and did nothing wrong, people heard but did not listen to her. She should not had said she was sorry because she was clear when she started her comment that she was not saying what he did was right.

PETA get over yourselves. The show is called The View, and sometimes people think for themselves and make opions that you might not agree with.

LIfe is too short to get offended

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2007 12:55 PM

PETA, I hope this organization is not one that condemns those who have somehow caused animals to suffer, Vick will pay for his crimes, can we just forgive and move on. Thank God P.E.T.A. doesn't have a hell or heaven for Mr. Vick to enter in, God forgives and we must forgive Mr. Vick like it or not. All the hatred is leading to on sided hate blacks have forgiveness and whites do not. Fans at the Georgia Dome have to sit together, and there's a lot of hostility among people, at the last pre-season game security had to break up a brwal in the 100 section lower level on the 50 yard line. Our families enjoy going to see the Falcons, P.E.T.A. was wrong to cause all this division among races. The courts wil decide Mr. Vicks fate. Too bad blacks don't have any slave masters jerseys for our dogs to lay on after so many african americans were hanged, killed, intercontinental trades of humans, foot cut-off to escape the unethical treatmen of humans, oh yeah, Slavery is the worst crime upon humanity known to man on American soil. That's what I tell my kids when they ask about the Vick case, Humans, blacks suffered far worse at the hands of white people. God Bless!

Posted by: concerned | September 7, 2007 01:09 PM

Black or not, Whoopi will get away with what she said originally...because she's a celebrity. Saying that dogfighting's considered a "culture" thing is ridiculous! I'm Mexican, so it would be like me saying it's in my "culture" to sell oranges by the freeway! It's stupid! People, no matter who they are, should always think before they speak! It's considerate that she apologized, but it's inconsiderate to say dogfighting is ok, like it's no big thing! If I offended anyone by what I just said, I apologize! Dogs rule! They're too cute and adorable to be treated badly

Posted by: MeL | September 7, 2007 01:29 PM

Better than anything, Whoopi has brought the Vick case oh yet again into TOP news interest. Let us forgive Whoopi this breech because she is close to PETA. Treating her like IMUS as suggested earlier would be ugly and unfair. Let's not go there. We have better things to do than make enemies and spread hate.
Mr Vick was not picked on for racial reasons. Blacks, whites and all others are either opposed or not. Reports of unlawful acts toward dogs just came out as newsworthy and PETA and its supporters needed to bring it to the forefront immediately.
As for his friends leaving Mr Vick. All friends need to tell the truth under the law. This is a case when they would rather the truth go away but it is here to stay and the consequences are harsh due to their acts.It's painful for us all but not as painful as WHAT THOSE DOGS SUFFERED.(TORTURE, PAIN, FEAR) What about "Man's Best Friend". Who protects god's good creatures if not you and me?
Ie letter Les Paul and "Friends" statements.

Posted by: Daylight365 | September 7, 2007 02:56 PM

Monique and Cas

This is not a blog for/about racism. This is an ANIMAL RIGHTS BLOG/FORUM. If you have issues about racism please discuss that with your elected representatives and with the NAACP. BTW, there are black racists who also hate whites and latinos so racism runs rampant among any groups. I don't care about Vick's color, I only care that he violently abused and killed sentient beings. Nike caters to many groups and I am sure many blacks will still be buying from Nike no matter what but according to stats, latinos are the fastest growing group in the USA and THEY have much monetary clout. YOU are making this into a racial issue when dog fighting clearly is not. Hispanics and whites are also involved in dog fighting. Get off the race card already. Nobody can adopt the dogs because the FBI is in control and only they and the judge will determine the outcome for the dogs. Get your facts straight. Two humane groups are determining the dogs ability/temperament to be able to be adopted so there are people who would be willing to adopt these dogs. Snide comments are ridiculous. PETA and animal activists also have the freedom to dispute comments/opinions detrimental to the well-being of any non-human animal; that's the purpose/function of PETA and of activism. If the slightest comment is made about blacks perceived as being racist the NAACP and blacks retaliate vehemently irregardless of another's "right to an opinion".

JUSTICE FOR ANIMALS!!!

Posted by: Ana | September 7, 2007 04:29 PM

HY PEOPLE !

THIS IS CRAZY WHAT SOME SAY ABOVE !

VICK IS CRUEL, EVIL AND HAVE TO BE PUNISHED ! AND THIS COMES FROM HIS SOUL ! BECAUSE HE IS EVIL INSIDE ! IT IS NOT FROM CULTURAL BIRTH !
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EVERYBODY THAT HURTS ANIMALS ARE EVIL PEOPLE INSIDE ! AND THIS IS A FACT ! NO MATTER WHAT REASSON THEY CHOOSE FOR IT !
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WHOOPI TRIED TO PROTECT HER EVIL FRIEND VICK AND SHE CANNOT SAY SORRY ANYMORE ! GOING IN HIS FAVOR SHE IS GOING AGAINST ANIMALS RIGHT !
SORRY BUT THIS IS A FACT TOO !

GO VEG ! BE A GOOD SOUL AND LOVE ANIMALS ! PROTECT NATURE !

FROM BRASIL - RIO DE JANEIRO !

Posted by: VANNA ROCHA | September 8, 2007 12:17 AM

Whoopi, you are heartless. Vick tortures dogs and you take his side, I hope you don,t own any pets. To late for fake apology now.

Posted by: Marianne B. | September 8, 2007 06:59 AM

to concerned: it rather seems to me that you cannot forgive - in repeating here the whole history of slave-trade! this here is not about human races - this is about animalprotection! do you understand??????

Posted by: highland | September 8, 2007 02:58 PM

rojo: i don't like your comment about calfs and sheeps! animal babies are separated immediately after their birth from their mothers not for to be killed but for gestation crates! this is predominantly happening in western and near east 'culture'! i spent many years in india and there are still some regions which are not poisoned by western and near east influence, where people respect all the forms of life! they have everything which the west doesn't have: education, simple life, respect towards all beings, and a thousands of years old history and culture! i'm really sorry to say that but western life is just lowlife and exploitation of all forms of life! all the western hemisphere starting in near east to europe and america, also africa is hell on earth and they don't know it! killing an animal baby, even if it's four weeks old is a crime and these western people don't even know it! this is the horror - they think the abnormal is normal! for this they are always involved in wars and revolutions! unfortunately the indian people are starting to imitate this infected lifestyle and are loosing all their dignity and pride! but in rajastan there are still about 70 pct of the population vegetarians and they have a good life! but in the big cities where they start to build slaughterhouses they are starving and also living in hell! the ancient cultures of china and india had perfect compassionate rulers who were themselves also vegetarians but today the whole world is infected and high thoughts and feelings in decline! the most honorable personalities of this planet are against the killing of animals and the lowlifes know this exactly - but they insist; they insist in their mistake! killing of animals is wrong and time shall show you the answer of mother earth! this planet is not just a dead thing! the earth is a living being with a conscience! but time will show you everything and then we shall see who was wrong! for now i can just tell you this: i studied indian philosophy and scriptures and since then i know: they are rich and the west is poor! how could a state ever permit to kill animals!!! this has just to end in a complete disaster...

Posted by: animal fighter | September 8, 2007 03:23 PM

rojo

YOU need to get your facts straight. The calves are thrown to the side (if sick or fragile) and picked up by animal killing enterprises and yes, are killed at being only hours old. It happens here in the USA!!! So its not my passion speaking, I was merely stating facts that you apparently have no knowledge of. These practices on the farms are common. I see that you always defend any manner that abuses and oppresses animals for the benefit of humans, too bad. You also need to educate yourself about Persian lamb coats. The killers take the unborn lambs from the ewe's womb for their soft curly fur. Obviously, you're the one filled with utter nonsensense. There are plenty of data and photos about this abomination. You don't have facts so you write like an ignorant, uneducated fool.

Posted by: Ana | September 9, 2007 04:49 PM

I know what she said how can so many people hear it different than I did. She was not condoning it. Same as in Korea they eat dogs and do not think there is anything wrong with it. If you grow up that way you don't think is wrong. Go Whoppie Go Girl.

Posted by: Bahama Bill | September 9, 2007 07:26 PM

I guess we should say slavery is understandable also than. That's just the way the whites were raised. That was their culture.
So Whoopi, you understand our people being slaves...right?
It was just their way.
What a low-life you are.
Makes no sense.
You only said it because he is black.
I don't care what color an animal abuser and slaughter is...its still sick sick sick.
I hope he rots.

Posted by: Cynthia | September 10, 2007 02:44 PM

Ah Ana, I see you now mean sick or fragile calves. Don't you think it is better to put such animals out of their misery? Experience suggests that such animals lack vigour even if they overcome these ailments.
As to the Persian lamb, you are correct I was unaware. It isn't a practice associated with wool or meat production and I'm not into fashion accessories. My apologies.
I do not apologise for presenting facts relating to the use of animals, or calling into question dubious statements. Through questioning I have learned something today. Thankyou.

Posted by: rojo | September 10, 2007 07:31 PM

Its taken me some time to comment on whoopie and her remarks. I've listen to them a couple of times and for the life of me I can't figure out how in the world PETA would buy her "i'm sorry". Vick will more than likly pull time for his crimes and he should but what about whoopie. All I could get from her letter to PETA was she was trying to save face, ass and a job at the same time. I have raised pit bull's and I live in the south. And could have made a lot of money off of them if I chose to sell them to people that fought them instead of having them as pets. And if you've ever had any dealing selling pit's you can tell who's there and for what purpose they are buying the dog. I say all of that to said PETA of all people should realize what whoopie did by sending the letter to PETA. I don't use the word 'APOLOGY' because in my heart I just ain't buying it, to put it simply.It sounded like to me that because she was a hollywood star is was o.k. for her to say the things she say. Is PETA gonna be that forgiving of VICK if he writes a letter?In my opinion whoopie was playing the race card trying to be cool. Oh but if I say that I'll be consider a racist or a bigot. Never seen it fail yet! So be it.
We have 2 Boston Terriers Lynyrd and Bo, both are MALES. It breaks my heart to think that at one time people fought this breed like they do pits now. We also have two children, Lynyrd was raised with our oldest {5}years old and Bo at 10 months just came on board. We couldn't ask for or find a more protective, loving, playful,and good natured anywhere. Oh plus a 3 week old grandchild and I would trust our children with the dogs a lot quicker than I'd trust them with most people.
I hope PETA will post this because its sounds to me that whoopie is sitting in the middle of the road on this one. And almost got run over this time.

Posted by: tommy | September 10, 2007 09:01 PM

You PETA supporters seem to have a hard time understanding the simple fact that animals and people are no where near equals. Animals are inferior to people and should be treated as inferiors. So I don't understand why you losers freak out when a man kills some dogs, but dont give a dam that milliions of humans suffer worse fates than vicks dogs on a daily basis. You guys are outside your f-ing mind if you consider the killing of some dogs as serious as the killing of a person. I hope Michael Vick gets out of jail and tells PETA to kiss his ass for trying to ruin his life. The first recorded dog fighting occured during the Roman empire and to this day is found all over the world, and therefore dog fighting isin't part of a southern culture its part of HUMAN culture. So stop kicking Vick while he is down and get over yourselves, you can never stop animal abuse and fighting becuase it is has been in our nature FOREVER. Just stop crying about it and do something useful with your time and money like help some people in need. But if you guys want to consider yourselves equals with your precious animals thats fine with me but I will just treat you like the inferior animals that you are.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 11, 2007 01:31 AM

Anonymous, it might be in YOUR nature, but it's not in mine to abuse animals. You also have no idea as to how everyone posting here feels on issues that are not related to animals so stop speaking for me and others. Oh you will now treat me as inferior so boo hoo I guess I will have to go cry now. Jackass. (Yes, I put animal life above Michael Vick because in my opinion someone such as he is lower than shit). Now, just what can you do about it? Oh that's right the "inferior" thing. You have no idea how I (or others here) feel about any other human being. It's obvious you have not read over the comments in this nor other postings. By the way, this is the PETA blog. You may want to learn how to use that little thing called a mouse and use it to direct yourself to blogs that support your cause (and if I ever meet Vick in person he will get more than a kicking).

Posted by: sherri | September 12, 2007 04:42 AM

I heard what she said on the View and I didn't feel that she was defending Vick. She was simply saying that there is a culture out there where dogs are not viewed as intelligent, feeling creatures. It's no different than cock fighting or bull fighting cultures around the world. People need to stop and think before reacting. We don't all live the same experiences and don't all feel the same about issues. I think that is a huge flaw the AR movement fails to address/understand! I totally disagree with what Vick did but I have to beg the question, is he getting all of this spotlight because he's black? Until the AR movement stops coming at every issue from a white perspective, it will never understand that we are not all viewing the world in the same way.

Posted by: April | September 13, 2007 12:38 PM

Why is the View still on TV is anyone still watching it? It seems to be getting worse by the day and I don't know why it is allowed to continue.

Posted by: Amanda | September 13, 2007 12:56 PM

Just like Whoopie. An empty apology. I love my animals, and then she talks about cats. Maybe she is a dog hater. I won't waste my time trying to dissect her words. she apparently didn't waste any time either, when she spit the venom at the South. So go on Whoopie, you research this huh? Get out there and find out what made that poor boy Michael Vick watch in excitement as he hung dogs then watched them struggle. And the darned things wouldn't die, so the executioner orders drowing them. You take the time to find out why he did that. And get back to us okay? Maybe you'll find the answer on the golf course, with OJ.

Posted by: Julie | September 13, 2007 01:17 PM

I knew Whoopi was not an animal lover because on a previous show she talked about how she bought a family member a new MINK COAT! Thats sick and I know she is only apologizing to cover her butt. She does not mean it. The view has lost a view-er.

Posted by: Sheryl | September 14, 2007 01:02 AM

for the love of God, please get some protestors out there to reveal the heartless comments she made. She was a sham. No apology was made. She ought to watch the clips again, and pretend they were her precious cats that were slaughtered.
What has she ever done to help PETA? or any other animal rights organization?
She is a disgrace and should be protested out of that studio until she makes it clear that she did not think before she spoke.
This was an abominable act that she sanctioned with her philosophy and it hurt this cause greatly.
Dont let her off the hook with polite letters

Posted by: phil auerbach | September 18, 2007 09:20 PM

Instead of attacking those who voice their view point I thought our organization was meant to protect our animals. Go after the ones who actually have dog and Cock-fighting..also go to Chinatown in your area and see the beautiful birds and turtles for sale as food..then cast you stones. That is what she was trying to tell us all and by the way I also find bullfighting barbaric..so fight our fight fair and stop going after people prior to knowing the facts

Posted by: Mitzi | September 20, 2007 05:51 PM

Anyone who can fight animals and tolerate the abuse towards animals has no feelings or heart. Instead of giving him time or probation why not throw him in a ring with about 20 pitbulls and see how he feels when they get done with him, that may sound cruel but from what I read I cried for those dogs and for the people who are heartless as him they deserve punishment beyond my control. :)~

Posted by: Tracy Dixon | September 21, 2007 05:22 PM

Being from a family that comes from the Republic of Ireland, I was deeply insulted by Whoopi's comments. It's not the Irish who are big into fighting dog....it's another minority group here in the US. To me it is an obvious case of reverse discrimination on Whoopi's part. She saw a black man under fire, and instinctively she tried to defend or minimize his actions (appalling as they were). Nauseating....but sadly, par for the course. I think they should toss Whoppi in with what remains of Michael Vick's fighting dogs & let them have their way with her.

Posted by: Bud Lynch | December 10, 2007 09:16 PM

oh come on people! get over it she expained her self
if your still mad get a LIFE

Posted by: kim | July 24, 2008 11:11 AM