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Rob Zombie Does Not Eat Flesh
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With that in mind, PETA VP Dan Mathews wrote the following note to Mr. Zombie:
“We at PETA would like to thank you for making clear in Halloween that people who commit acts of cruelty to animals are likely to move on to humans. Although audiences wince during scenes showing the young Michael Myers mutilating animals, following it up with the school counselor articulating how this is the first step to becoming a maniac was perfectly done. Hopefully, with the attention focused by your movie on this link between animal cruelty and human violence, more people will recognize the warning signs among people they know and deal with it more forcefully.”
Not only was the cat used in this scene fake (of course), but guess what? Rob Zombie is an ethical vegetarian, and has been since 1982, when he saw slaughterhouse footage in high school. Turns out that some zombies don't eat flesh at all. Who knew?
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Right on! I'm a fan of Rob Zombie but never new he was a Vegetarian!
Posted by: Carla | September 24, 2007 03:01 PM
Okay, I know now the cat is fake, but I still don't think I could see this movie. At the very least, I would have to walk out of the theater during that scene and come back later (especially if the cat looked like one of my shelter babies!). I'm too sensitive I guess.
Posted by: BullyDawg | September 24, 2007 03:50 PM
What exactly is an "ethical" Vegetarian? Pardon my ignorance.
Posted by: Wendy | September 24, 2007 04:13 PM
My Wife And I Are HUGE Zombie Fans!!! Can't wait to see him with Ozzy in November!!
Posted by: Mike | September 24, 2007 05:05 PM
I am an avid Rob Zombie fan. I've always enjoyed his music and movies. Knowing that Rob is also a vegetarian is welcome news, it will just further my resolve to buy more of his music for my listening pleasure. Now while his music may not appeal to some, all I ask is give it a chance; you'll be asking yourself 'why didn't I discover his music sooner'.
Posted by: Craig | September 24, 2007 06:04 PM
Wendy: Someone who is a vegetarian for ethical reasons, as opposed to health or other reasons.
Posted by: Kenna | September 24, 2007 08:26 PM
I see no proof of this article at all, only mention of his name and a picture.
Since it's PETA I have to assume they are lying.
Posted by: Jacob Hollis | September 24, 2007 09:56 PM
Finally some evidence that those of us who choose to eat healthy meat, hunt and fish aren't cruel...I have never nor do I ever intend to commit a violent crime towards a human. I can only conclude that my efforts to
improve the world around me are not, in fact, cruelty to animals. As a matter of fact I do a fair amount of good things for humans. Sure, I make a living at it, but so do the people working at PETA. It's great to make a living doing something worthwhile and
helpful. The more time I spend here the better I feel.
Con Amore per tutti!!
Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 24, 2007 10:20 PM
Wendy,
An "ethical" vegetarian is one who becomes so out of concern for animal suffering, and perhaps the environment. If you go veg strictly for health reasons there is no "ethical" component, but the animals are still happy.
Posted by: Mike Quinoa | September 25, 2007 11:34 AM
Huge fan of his. I love horror films and can't wait to see this one. I am glad that the movie has a message along with the gore. Glad to know Mr. Zombie has a compassionate soul.
Posted by: Tina | September 25, 2007 12:12 PM
The cat may have been a fake, but the severed pig head on display in Zombie's "The Devil's Rejects" was not (straight from the horse's mouth, he mentions it on the DVD commentary, plus it's confirmed by some of the creators of "Saw 3" in their own film commentary).
It's very nice that he's a vegetarian and all, but what kind of vegetarian insists on using pieces of an actual dead pig in his movies where a fake one would've done just as well?
Sorry, I just don't see the difference between somebody buying the remains of a slaughtered animal and eating them or buying the remains of a slaughtered animal, using them as a film prop and then throwing them out.
I'm a Peta member and I support you guys in pretty much everything, but maybe next time you send a letter to Rob Zombie, ask him to stop using real animal body parts as set decoration in his movies?
Posted by: Guil | September 25, 2007 12:40 PM
Gotta say, that is too cool. As an animal lover with numerous pets, from birds to horses, it is wonderful to know that someone can do wonderful horror movies and not be advocates of animal cruelty, even in a pretend world.
Posted by: Katherine | September 25, 2007 01:11 PM
I saw the movie, It was great. It does show that when you are cruel to animals and kill them the next step is human suffering and murders. I knew he was a vegetarian but I was confused b/c i didn't know he was going to include the death of animals. But hey, the were fake. I thought they were going to show Michael kill the mice, they didn't.
Rob Zombie rocks! I am glad he did this movie, it was also touching.
Posted by: Marisela | September 25, 2007 01:54 PM
Dr.(?) C.,
I have been an a/r's activists for years...and ever since I have been reading this blog site - unless I missed or misconstrued something - I can honestly say that no one has ever accused meat- and fish-eaters of being cruel people in and of themselves just for that reason. So I don't know why you are looking for "evidence" of yourself not being a cruel person. I suspect you are more so looking for support for your consumption habits - especially on an animal rights' blog site - that is certainly not going to be condoned by a/r's activists...but would only be supported by meat and fish eaters, who you can find plenty of anywhere.
As a/r's activists, our comments are more geared towards the cruel people, who are totally unconscienable, heartless, and uncompassionate.
For example: those who participate in the barbaric conditions of animals pre-slaughtering;
slaughtering them on the conveyor belts - while being conscious and without pain meds;
scalding them in hot water while still alive;
the atrocious conditions of caged animals raised for consumption;
and as you have read, about the mad scientists who conduct insanely barbaric, needless experiments on animals in labs;
also those who promote dogfighting and cockfighting. (these are just to mention a few). Those are blatantly cruel people, and there is no other way to think of them. (I hope you can agree with at least that much) Our comments on this site about people being cruel are directed to those who condone animal cruelty.
As for the "hunters," there is not much difference from those cruel people because "hunters" have bloodlust desires to intentionally kill innocent beings, which is a violent "crime" to a compassionate civilization. I will end by saying, as animal rights' activists, we not only promote doing good for the animals, but also do good for humanity by exposing and acting upon those cruel activities done by actual cruel people. And I think it is a very scary thought that those types of people are among us and allowed to perform their cruelties.
Posted by: Ariel | September 25, 2007 07:04 PM
Aside from being an amazing artist musically and theatrically, him being a vegetarian only makes him even more sexy!!!
There is nothing more attractive than a compassionate man! Rock on Z!
Posted by: alisa | September 25, 2007 10:40 PM
Mike,
Have fun with this great music man and OZZY.
But first you must go to this site and read about the wonderful OZZY who Rob will be performing with.
www.av1611.org/rock/ozzy.html
This site will tell you more about Ozzy than I am sure you want to know.
When OZ worked in a slaughterhouse he would think hard about the different ways that he could kill the animals, and he did seem to enjoy it, talking about their blood.
ENJOY YOUR CONCERT......
Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | September 25, 2007 10:49 PM
Excellent musician, wonderful film productor and so charming ! But now he is also "ethical" veg ! I love this guy more and more !
A vegan french fan
Posted by: Agatha | September 26, 2007 07:45 AM
Rob Zombia a veggi?! Who would have thought...I'm glad he is tho.
Kenna..as for your comment, if you think PETA lies then why are you on our site ?
Have a nice day everyone :)
Posted by: Franki | September 26, 2007 12:48 PM
Rob Zombie Rocks!!
Posted by: tammye | September 26, 2007 02:59 PM
I must agree with Guil.
The poor pig's head is the truth.
Also, after an animal is murdered on film you can always bet that that act will be carried out in "REAL LIFE, by some freak.
You read about it all the time.
It's all about the money and how much they will make...
When will they learn?
Maher and Newkirk
2008
Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | September 26, 2007 03:08 PM
Yay! Mad props to Rob Zombie and other infamous horror movie vegetarian legends like Clive Barker, Dario Argento, and Larry Fessenden.
Creators of horror films have always been instrumental in getting an animal rights message out there on the big screen and to the mainstream. Whether in the form of showing the link between violence to animals and violence to humans or classic themes like in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre where it is frequently noted that “Meat is meat” --equating the consumption to human flesh to that of animal flesh. It was also brilliant to see in the Argento directed film, Pelts, the way in which trapping and killing raccoons for a fur coat eventually destroyed the trapper’s life.
Kudos to the masterminds who are making films that start conversations about animal rights and ultimately save animals' lives when people become educated and make compassionate decisions.
Posted by: Mylie | September 26, 2007 04:25 PM
What IS an "ethical" vegetarian? If it's wrong to kill an animal for meat, why isn't it wrong to kill them for dairy and eggs (yes they are killed)
Posted by: Mel Mel | September 26, 2007 05:00 PM
Ariel,
Not to worry, you live in the city so I am not amongst you. Anyway, I will not have time to enjoy my visits as much with my new friends the angry herbivores as lots of exciting trips are in my future. I'm headed to Arizona for a beautiful week in the desert hunting Gambel's quail. Then on to Massachusetts for sea ducks, then back here to the nirvana for deer, quail, trout...the list goes on. Sorry, got to go, the white bass are en fuego over at Norfork...
Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 26, 2007 09:55 PM
Ariel
Thanks for your logical and compassionate comments. Cochran's useless commentaries have gotten really tedious and boring. Don't bother to respond, he just enjoys playing the lout with bows and spears and describing to the "angry herbivores" his killing sprees. Yawn!!! Keep fighting the good fight!!! Perhaps a hunter will mistake cochran for vermin and.....
Posted by: Ana | September 27, 2007 09:13 AM
Dr.(?)C.,
Providing that I recall correctly, in your initial blog, you said that you were seeking an intelligent debate/discussion, as well as intending to offer your "expertise." With that, I have tried to maintain a civilized discussion with you, including my last blog, as well as most other a/r's activists have also. Evidently you are unable to recognize civility because as your comments continued, they became increasingly childish to say the least, definitely showing a "true positive" in your last response to me. So with that in mind, I am finally going to bring to attention some - well, I will say - "insights" about you that I have long been aware of, aside from and perhaps including the obvious.
Meet me in a more current forum heading so that my comments will not be missed. And if necessary, I will repeat them under other headings.
Posted by: Ariel | September 27, 2007 10:06 AM
Mel Mel,
You're referring to a lacto-ovo vegetarian, and yes, the animals are killed that supply dairy and eggs. Veganism is hopefully the direction most of us are moving in. Remember also, that a lacto-ovo still consumes many strictly vegan meals. So, maybe not as ideal as a vegan diet, but still a great step in reducing one's cruelty quotient.
Posted by: Mike Quinoa | September 27, 2007 12:46 PM
Have a great holiday killing things, Christopher. I guess the Hippocratic Oath only applies to humans.
Posted by: Mike Quinoa | September 27, 2007 01:56 PM
You are right Ana,
All he is, is another
Bully on Board.
And we all know he is a
Faux Dr.
Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | September 27, 2007 05:29 PM
I have noticed that while the PETA supporters on these blogs have been providing clear, factual responses to Cochran, the "Faux" doctor's (good one Judith!) comments have deteriorated into defensive, arrogant, silly nonsense. Hmmm, if you can't stand the heat... Oh well, at least he is providing us with some amusement these days! :)
Posted by: Michele | September 27, 2007 10:19 PM
Ana, Mike, Judith,
I think our Dr. Faux, "harvestologist," aka, bloodlust killer, took the "hypocritical" oath.
...and then, Ana, he would have to be admitted to an environment that would probably be strange to him: a hospital - maybe a veterinarian hospital. : )
Judith, I have to say that it was so pathetically laughable that Dr. Faux had the time to research on wikipedia about Ingrid Newkirk's nationality, concerning why she would not be able to hold a U.S. executive office. Such desperation!
Keep up the good fight too! I admire all of you!
Posted by: Ariel | September 28, 2007 10:55 AM
Mike, as a matter of fact the Hippocratic oath does only apply to humans. Especially since I do not engage in medical treatment
on animals. Although there was that one time while quail hunting, Oliver, my bird dog tore open his belly skin on a barbed wire fence and I had to sew him up on the tailgate of my truck. He is such a good boy.
Judith, did you finally realize that Ms. Newkirk can't be elected president?
Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 28, 2007 02:59 PM
idiot doctors still think you need meat to survive. while millions of vegetarians are discovering healthier lifestyles. let them die like the fools they are.
Posted by: kris | November 30, 2007 07:38 AM
So what if Rob has used dead animals in his movies? He doesnt eat meat. He grew up hanging out in cemetaries (like everyone else as there was nothing else to do in this town) does that make him anti christ? NO!. god I was just waiting for someone to slam the guy.
Posted by: sally | January 29, 2008 12:27 PM
I'm a fan of zombie, and i had not clue he was a vegetarian. Myself, I am an omnivore. But then again, I don't get slaughter house food.
Posted by: joe | February 2, 2008 01:35 AM
Doesnt it seem hypocritical that he would have you think that he is a badass satanist when he finds the treatment of animals upsetting.
Does he sacrafice tofu to the devil?
Im just saying, it seems a bit retarded.
Posted by: mazdabastard | February 25, 2008 05:43 PM
Haverhill High showed that movie in the 80's....LONG before he became Rob Zombie. He also doent worship the devil.
Posted by: sally | May 14, 2008 12:30 PM