This is great!!!! These people did a wonderful job in their lovely costumes. Go PETA-UK!!! The easiest solution is to GO VEGAN!! Enough said!

Posted by: Ana | September 18, 2007 06:07 PM

What do you propose we do with all the critters after they are emancipated?

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 18, 2007 06:33 PM

Sorry to have to put you right again here guys with the facts but the recent cases of foot and mouth in the UK occured in Surrey in the South of England which I believe is approx 140 miles east of Bristol.

It is believed that the outbreak was caused by a leaking drainage pipe at a local laboratory site used to develop vaccines and subsequent severe flooding that affected the area. Pretty poor Bio Security and someone needs their butt kicked.

Anyway, shouldn't those cute little posters read

"Blah Blah Blah, Go Entirely Plant Based Diet!" That is of course unless you are into purely self righteous lifestyle gestures then Go Veg!

Long live the meatless and guiltless, oh how simple ......

Posted by: Alan | September 18, 2007 06:39 PM

Heh, I love the animals. Ohmigozz0rz hot cowsz udder. ;O

Posted by: Quwen Quiola Qyiz | September 18, 2007 08:53 PM

Those costumes are really good!
The message is LOUD & CLEAR! - Go Veg!

Posted by: Niranjan | September 19, 2007 04:08 AM

its so great that your making a difference!

haha,and the costumes are cute too!

the cows the cutest!

Posted by: bekki kalk | September 19, 2007 06:31 AM

There is nothing more annoying that self-righteous "Activists" who claim to "Know" they are right.
Humans are built to eat meat. Our systems are evolutionary wonders or development.
The only real poblem with humans is HOW we eat meat.
Also, that PETA claims to care for animals but would rather see a dog, cat or bird put down rather than live as a domesticated pet is hypocritical in the extreme. Wolves and Big Cats are also evolved to the current domestic canine and feline incarnations we see today because many millenia ago they recognized human stewardship as a path simpler path to survival and propogation.
Your arrogance and ignorance as an excuse for your intellectual shortcomings is pathetic and that you would waggle your fingers and tsk your tongues at humans doing what humans were evolved to do is just plain dumb.
I don't condone "Cruelty" to animals but I would rather eat beef than destroy 10 x's the acreage to grow the equal amount of soy protein it would take to feed me over a decade. Overgorwing and over use of land is just as dabgerous if not a more permanent scar than raising 10 cows a year on 1 quarter the acreage to provide the same protein yield.

Posted by: Mark | September 19, 2007 11:19 AM

There is nothing more annoying that self-righteous "Activists" who claim to "Know" they are right.
Humans are built to eat meat. Our systems are evolutionary wonders or development.
The only real poblem with humans is HOW we eat meat.
Also, that PETA claims to care for animals but would rather see a dog, cat or bird put down rather than live as a domesticated pet is hypocritical in the extreme. Wolves and Big Cats are also evolved to the current domestic canine and feline incarnations we see today because many millenia ago they recognized human stewardship as a path simpler path to survival and propogation.
Your arrogance and ignorance as an excuse for your intellectual shortcomings is pathetic and that you would waggle your fingers and tsk your tongues at humans doing what humans were evolved to do is just plain dumb.
I don't condone "Cruelty" to animals but I would rather eat beef than destroy 10 x's the acreage to grow the equal amount of soy protein it would take to feed me over a decade. Overgrowing and over use of land is just as dabgerous if not a more permanent scar than raising 10 cows a year on 1 quarter the acreage to provide the same protein yield.

Posted by: Mark | September 19, 2007 11:19 AM

Just wanted to test comments.

Posted by: John | September 19, 2007 11:40 AM

PETA UK protesters - you are great and the animal costumes are soooooo cute - love you!!!

Posted by: We shall rock you | September 19, 2007 11:50 AM

hi jack,
there is another error on the alicia silverstone blog - it doesn't put the text through!

Posted by: dumbo | September 19, 2007 03:11 PM

Mark,
your confused statement is not very enlightening, but for to make it short just this: the human being is not meant to eat meat:

1. meat-eaters sweat from the tongue, humans and other vegetarian animals not!

2. meat-eaters have sharp teeth and claws, humans and other vegetarian animals not!

3. meat-eaters have short intestines, humans and other vegetarian animals not!

4. meat-eaters have shorter lifes than humans and most other vegetarian animals - if they are not slaughtered by meat-eaters!

5. meat-eaters are able to defend themselves with their teeth and claws, humans and other vegetarian animals do better in running away - (during evolution process the human being learned to develop special weapons like rifles but the body itself is helpless)

and we have not at all an intellectual shortcoming - many animal protectors here have degrees! and you should go to the website 'godsdirectcontact' or look on google 'vegan and vegetarian elite of the world' and you shall see who on this planet was and is actually vegetarian - maybe this makes you a little less arrogant!

Posted by: cappuccino | September 19, 2007 05:40 PM

Salad and hemorrhagic diarrhea!
Cats and toxoplasmosis, tinea, P.multocida infections!
Akee fruit and Pancreatitis!
I am in process of designing my ultraobscure diseases protest costume, but I am not sure what an akee fruit looks like. Oh yeah, more people get sick from cat and dog carried diseases every year than all those diseases those fellows are protesting. Down with Cats and Dogs!?!

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 19, 2007 06:04 PM

"1. meat-eaters sweat from the tongue, humans and other vegetarian animals not!"

Wrong, animals pant to cool off and their tongues do not sweat.Carnivores and herbavores all pant.

"2. meat-eaters have sharp teeth and claws, humans and other vegetarian animals not!"

Wrong. Meat eaters have incisors. Herbivores do not.Humans have incisors and the same teeth as carnivores not herbivores.

"4. meat-eaters have shorter lifes than humans and most other vegetarian animals - if they are not slaughtered by meat-eaters!"

Wrong. Prey animals have shorter lifespans then predators.A fox will outlive a rabbit several times over.

Posted by: Mars | September 19, 2007 07:06 PM

Cappuccino,

Human beings, without a doubt are omnivores. We have very close relatives who are herbivores, namely gorillas, and they have enormous guts. We climbed down out of the trees and began eating meat imparting the ability to grow huge (relatively speaking) brains as we evolved.
The remnants of a largely plant digesting gut is the appendix. I do not know what amount of boxtops you traded for your biology degree, but you got cheated. Come and let me show you the ecological devastation of a soybean field sometime.
Remember Carnivore=short, short gut i.e. dog, lion, tiger. Meat Only.

Omnivore=intermediate gut
i.e. bear, human, pig, raccoon, opossum.
Best of both Worlds, but needs both to survive.

Herbivore = very long gut with or without multipocketed stomachs ie cow, horse, goat,
deer, rhino, elephant.
Must eat gobs and gobs of plant material, but survives and thrives on plants alone.

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 19, 2007 07:29 PM

Mark i think are in the wrong website, why even waste the spce on the page just to post your stupid comments dont forget that this is a website for THOSE who BELIEVE in animal rights, and your not one of us.

Posted by: silvia | September 19, 2007 08:44 PM

That's right Mark. You are on the wrong website. This website is for people who BELIEVE, not KNOW. This is sounding more and more like a religion based on emotion (rather than a philosophy based in facts) all the time.

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 19, 2007 11:38 PM

Why respond to flesh eaters and animal haters/killers??? Just a waste of time. Obviously they are very lonely or have a lot ot time on their hands or both that they have to reiterate on an animal rights blog the same crappy, mundane arguments to justify their lack of compassion for the other animals . There are many sites that defend veganism on moral, ethical, religious, health and scientific grounds so they simply need to read these. There is not enough space in the comments section to enumerate all of these. Please focus on positive people doing wonderful things to help/save animals. I have heard and read all of the same arguments ad nauseum. AGAIN: THIS IS AN ANIMAL RIGHTS BLOG/FORUM WHERE ANIMAL ADVOCATES DEFEND THE RIGHTS OF ANIMALS; WE ARE AGAINST THE OPPRESSION OF ALL ANIMALS.

I have had cats all of my life, including during my pregnancies, (and so have many of my friends) but have never become ill because of them. On the other hand, humans have infected me with their illnesses. Also, human stupidity certainly gives me a headache.

PETA UK good job!!!

ANIMAL LIBERATION!

Posted by: Ana | September 20, 2007 09:21 AM

Picking out just a few uneducated highlights:
1."Humans are built to eat meat."(courtesy of Mark)
2."Humans have incisors and the same teeth as carnivores..." (courtesy of Mars)
3.Plus some of the information from Dr.(?) Cochran who came to this site to give his "expertise" and seeking an "intelligent discussion/debate," yet slings barbs occasionally.
Oh well, let's move on with some factual education:
1. If humans were meant to eat meat and other animal-related foods, then we would not be prone from it to be diagnosed with arteriosclerosis, strokes, be another statistic for cardiac bypass surgery, sudden onsets of cardiac arrest and/or sudden onset of cardiac fatalities. Of course there are other factors that can contribute to these types of diagnoses, but changing to a vegetarian diet can reverse some of these conditions or prolong the life span with some of the other conditions, (minus the fatalities - too late).
2. Nature provided carnivorous animals with fangs to tear apart their prey (meat), but evolution has maintained fangs for domesticated carnivorous/omnivorous animals. Human animals do not have fangs, and the knife (for dining) and fork was not invented until the most later centuries for the "convenience" of eating meat and other foods.
3. For the second time, "Dr." Cochran has avoided addressing the very real potentials and continuous daily diagnoses mentioned in #1.
And...more people get sick from cat and dog diseases than all those diseases those fellows are protesting, "Dr." Cochran? That would be quite the shocking news to the medical profession who I suppose, according to your expertise, has been mis-diagnosing patients throughout the years, claiming that they are other types of diseases despite medical research and documented proof. And the medical insurance companies are not going to be too happy when they find out that they have been shelling out money for all those "mis-diagnosed" patients, "incompetent" doctors, and to the hospitals. Oh well, at least the lawyers will be happy.

Mark (and to all other anti-animal rights' advocates): animal activists are not affected in the least by being called "arrogant" or any other derogatory name-calling. Animal rights' is not a Mr./Mrs./Ms. Congeniality contest. How ever negatively you think of us and say about us, your opinions of us does not change the facts about the torture and suffering that animals endure, nor do your opinions discourage us one bit from our goals to help those animals.

Posted by: Ariel | September 20, 2007 09:53 AM

Mars, are you actually from Mars?! That might explain why your teeth look like my dog's or that of the lions that are kept in zoos here on Earth.

Why don't you send us a photo of your teeth so we can see those sharp incisors and canines? Do you have claws too?

Posted by: KathyF | September 20, 2007 10:17 AM

Dr. Cochran, are you actually saying I need meat to survive? Because I haven't had any for, gosh, about 15 years now.

Do you suppose...nah. I can't be dead.

Can I?

Posted by: KathyF | September 20, 2007 10:19 AM

to mars and christopher cochran:

all you want to do is to eat meat: so do what you cannot let but instead of using a knife and a fork at a fine dressed table go out into the jungle or the savannah without any weapons and tools and kill an american or an african buffalo with your finger nails and your teeth - but before make sure that you are accompanied by a dentist and a bone collector!!!

Posted by: cappuccino | September 20, 2007 12:41 PM

Mars,

Can you enlighten me as to which herbivores pant?

Herbivores certainly do have incisors.

Carnivores have sharp scissor-like molars which overlap, while herbivores have wide molars that make contact with each other. What type do you have?

From Wiki:
Most foxes live 2 to 3 years but can survive for up to 10 years, or even longer, in captivity. Rabbits generally live between four and twenty years.

Christopher, how many pounds of soy does it take to make one pound of beef?

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | September 20, 2007 01:17 PM

Silvia,
A person can believe in animal rights, and still eat meat. I believe we are all fighting for the ETHICAL treatment of animals. If we can get to the point where animals are not tortured and do not feel tremendous amounts of pain in order to be consumed, like they have been for hundreds of years, then our purpose would be accomplished.
And who are you to call someone stupid because they are posting their opinions. Keep your fascist tyranny to yourself.

Posted by: Kristin Iannarella | September 20, 2007 04:32 PM

Ana, please think more critically about your question! It is obvious that it will never be the case that all slaughterhouses close down simultaneously, release their animals, and we will be left wondering, "oh dear, what will I do with these cows grazing on my front lawn?" The point is to reduce buying meat and animal products so that the demand goes down, resulting in the slaughterhouses breeding less animals and therefore keeping less animals in wretched, inhumane conditions.

Posted by: Melissa | September 20, 2007 05:07 PM

Dear bekki kalk,

The damage done by the amount of food fed to cows far outweights the damage that would be done if one were to eat a plant-based diet, despite what you may have heard. Although cows are raised in small pens, the grains they eat are not grown there. So there is much more strain on the environmental than you are seeing. Also, keep in mind that most cows are kept in factory farms, where they don't have access to graze the land like you see them do in the country.

I am happy you are against "cruelty" to animals! I hope not everyone writes vegans off as being self-righteous. Most of us aren't. And the ones that are annoy me too! I don't like for vegans to get a bad reputation, since veganism is something very important to me personally.

For the record though, bekki,I don't consider this display as being self-righteous, as they are just dressed up in cute costumes warning you of diseases you could get from meat! lol Personally, I don't think this is very effective though. I do think the "meat is murder" slogan is offensive, and I would never go around saying that.

Remember everyone, the vegans you encounter that you think are "over the top" may just be that way due to the highly emotional nature of some of the issues. Most of us are down-to-earth, kind hearted, helpful, and *not* judgemental.

Posted by: Tom | September 20, 2007 05:35 PM

Hey! I didn't write that at all!! :( The comment that I tried to post said: "Please!! This is not about what humans are 'made to do.' I'm no biology expert, but most of today's human population wouldn't even be around if rules like natural selection still applied to us. The fact is that vegetarians/vegans survive just as well as, if not better than, meat-eaters. If you can do something easy, like change your diet, to not support animal abuse and suffering, why not?"

Posted by: Silvia | September 21, 2007 12:52 AM

ariel, you seem to be suffering foot-in-mouth disease perhaps you should re-read Chris's post. The last recorded human case of Foot and Mouth disease in britain was in 1966.

Posted by: rojo | September 21, 2007 06:44 AM

Melissa

I did not pose any question!!! So what's your point?? That was Cochran, look carefully.

Posted by: Ana | September 21, 2007 09:20 AM

KathyF,

If not for modern technology, you would require meat to survive. The microbes on dirty vegetables wouldn't cut it.

Mike,

I don't completely understand your question. I have extensively defended my opinion in another post, though.

Ariel,

I have extensively explained why a selectively omnivorous diet is healthier than vegan in other posts.

Cappuccino,
I have no idea what you are saying. You shouldn't drink whiskey in the middle of the day.

Everybody have a great weekend.

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 21, 2007 09:34 AM

I meant to address my post to Christopher, not Ana. Sorry for any confusion!

Posted by: Melissa | September 21, 2007 10:20 AM

comments were to Mark.

Posted by: Tom | September 21, 2007 10:25 AM

From a son of an animal farmer who has become vegan two years ago and is also a regular blood donor:

* You can't be an animal right believer and then eat them, it does not make sense. Basically, I can take you to ANY compassionate or not animal farm and you would understand what I am saying.

* Those who have seen any herbivore panting should stop watching too many cartoons (sorry for teasing you but your are too funny).

* Meat eaters, like I was and so my family, are very emotionally dependent on their own habits exactly like smokers, alcoholics etc.. Their are, unfortunately, emotionally unhealthy as they speak out of their anger and not much with the reason they believe it distinguish them from the animals.

Have a nice peaceful day everybody.

Posted by: Giorgio | September 21, 2007 12:22 PM

Sylvia

I did not pose that question, Cochran did. Please read the comments carefully and look at the correct name before making accusatory remarks. BTW, I am VEGAN!

Posted by: Ana | September 21, 2007 04:43 PM

Kristin Iannarella,
Please allow me to explain. This is an ANIMAL RIGHTS' blog site.
This is NOT an "animal welfare" blog site. There is a difference between "animal welfare" and "animal rights." So Kristin, you cannot have it both ways with eating meat (animal welfare) and honestly say that you believe in the rights of animals to its fullest meaning.
"Ethical" treatment of animals, according to animal rights' beliefs, actually extends beyond making them comfortable before slaughter, providing comfortable living conditions when they live in barbaric testing labs, etc. "Animal rights" is truly believing that animals are not ours to eat, exploit, or to torture under any circumstances...and acting on it. Therefore, what you defined as what would be accomplishing "our purpose," is not our total purpose as animal rights' activists. Our goals are to totally eliminate animal suffering and exploitation.

To some other posts in general from the anti-activists,

Since this is an ANIMAL RIGHTS' blog site, to which you are welcome, please have the courtesy (or common sense) of realizing that you are sounding off to animal rights' activists, who are totally dedicated and most are extremely knowledgeable due to years of being involved in animal rights. When you present your anti-comments, thinking they are humorous or having intentions of being derogatory, or attempting to negate, then you are clearly telling us about yourselves. You are telling us that you have no knowledge whatsoever concerning animal rights' issues...and you are telling us how insensitive you are, not particularly towards us, but to helpless beings. Please keep mind that we are definitely not offended with your ridiculous comments...because for anyone to be involved in animal rights, it not only includes having compassion and being self-less, it also includes having a tremedous ability to confront the atrocities that are done to helpless living beings.

So with that in mind and without having to repeat it, I totally agree with Ana's post on Sept. 20 (please refer)

Posted by: Ariel | September 21, 2007 07:17 PM

Christopher,

My question was in regards to your comment, "Come and let me show you the ecological devastation of a soybean field sometime. "

My point was that to make a pound of meat you have to feed an animal several pounds of plant material (varies, of course, with the feed and the animal). So, meat-eating exacerbates the devastation of which you speak.

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | September 22, 2007 03:24 PM

I fully agree with Ariel's posting of 21/09.

I just feel to reply to dear Christopher Cochran MD:

You seems to be a bit confused. Everybody seems to me very clear in this blog but you struggle to understand.

There is not much point the we reply to your convictions.

However...

Gandhi was a vegan and he rejected any form of little technology they had at his time...apparently he survived pretty well (he was actually killed by a man!). One single case does not count you may say. So, what about a great number of Buddhist, Indu and Christians (today's and past ones). We are talking, in all, of about millions of them who are/were vegans or vegetarians, with early Christians being mainly vegan. Among them also many "scientists", like DaVinci, Einstein, B.Franklin, Edison, Tesla, Newton, Darwin, Pythagoras . What kind of technology did they have at their time?

By the way, do you think that without technology you could farm animals?

The China study included thousands of individuals and has shown without reasonable doubt the health benefits of leaving meat, eggs and diary out of your diet.

I personally don't buy any particular processed food nor added vitamins. I think I live pretty well, surely much better than before. Every single person that I have managed to "vegganize" seems to think the same...oh, sorry it must be the whiskey!!

You think that omnivorous are healthier...you think, fair enough. Unfortunately, there is not scientific data that can back you up, though. In fact, epidemiological studies don't support your theory.

You should also note that many vegans were meat eaters earlier in their life (many vegans nowadays are actually born so). I wonder if you have ever become vegan for, let's say, more than a year. 'Cause if you don't try you don't know ;-)

Anyhow, I shall tell my family to contact you when I die; so that you can say that I died 'cause of my diet!

Posted by: Giorgio | September 22, 2007 03:26 PM

Christopher,

You stated, "I have extensively explained why a selectively omnivorous diet is healthier than vegan in other posts."

How do you then explain the success of vegan athletes Dr. Ruth Heidrich (vegan for 24 years) and Scott Jurek (vegan since 1999)?

Ruth is a six-time Ironman triathlon finisher, holder of more than 900 gold medals from every distance from 100-metre dashes to 5 kilometre road races to ultramarathons and triathlons. She has completed more than 60 marathons all over the world, including Boston, New York and Moscow, and has held three world fitness records in her age group at the Cooper Clinic in Texas.

Scott finished first in the Western States 100 mile endurance run 7 years in a row (1999-2005 and all on vegan fuel). Scott finished first in the 135-mile Badwater Ultramarathon in 2005 and 2006, as well as setting a course record. In 2006 he won the 246K Greek Spartathlon, and this year came first at the Hardrock Hundred (as well as setting a course record).

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | September 22, 2007 04:23 PM

Mike Quinoa ;

Like many things, wiki is not entirely accurate. A fox lives a long life in the wild including the 10 year span you posted. A fox must be 2 years old to breed so by your numbers the fox doesn't exist since it doesn't live long enough to breed. The rabbit however breeds several times a year because of it's short lifespan and they can breed a 2 months of age.

Here's a little truth which isn't wki BS;

"Life-span: about 9 years. In the wild most rabbits live less than one year."

http://www.ypte.org.uk/docs/factsheets/animal_facts/rabbit.html

and the fox;

"The average lifespan in the wild is 6 years. "

http://www.edu.pe.ca/southernkings/fox.htm

"Can you enlighten me as to which herbivores pant?"

Every one I've seen.

"Herbivores certainly do have incisors."

Yes they do but not all of them. Deer lack them as example.

Humans are not specialised except in brain function. Humans are the "jack of all trades" when physicaly compared to animals.Our teeth are not herbivore or carnivore or even omnivore, they are human.

Posted by: Mars | September 22, 2007 11:45 PM

mike, ruth's sucess may be the residual of the former 42 years as a non vegan. Build things properly in the first place.
Perhaps the 34 year old Scott has a similar story.

How will we know? Are there studies done on people raised as vegan from birth.

Posted by: rojo | September 23, 2007 08:18 AM

giorgio, I find it amusing that you think people like einstein(who was vegetarian for about a year and a half) are proof positive of the virues of not eating meat.
Yet you might run a mile at the suggestion Hitler was vegetarian, same logic or lack thereof.

Could you provide a link to the epidemiological study.

Posted by: rojo | September 23, 2007 10:31 AM

Mike,

I totally agree with your comment. In my opinion, ideally, people would eat far less meat and what meat they did eat would be fish, wild game (not widely feasible) or free range domestic animals. This would incorporate less agricultural damage, I believe.
I did not mean to imply that animal farming was not hard on the environment, I only meant to imply that the vegan footprint is likely as hard on the environment as an omnivore that eats well. If those athletes were to eat a more paleolithic diet, there is no telling how much better athletes they would be.

Giorgio,
I never claim that the average
omnivorous diet was healthy. I
claim that a selective omnivorous diet is healthier than a vegan diet. If you are a strict vegan and you do not take some form of supplemental B12, you will become deficient. Your hands and feet will go numb and you will become anemic. You will also
have softer bones (low calcium) (fractures are higher in strict vegans), and if you live in the UK, you may develop thyroid disease due to lack of iodine. I also contend that you would not have your big brain so that you may engage in this debate if your ancestors didn't eat meat. Most of the scientists that you mention were most certainly not strict vegans. You or your ilk have fabricated those data to further your cause.

I contend that most people here are very UNCLEAR, especially on how to present a fact based argument. Mr. Quinoa seems to be an exception. They do, however, mostly share your point of view. They are very good at arguing with their heart on their sleeve so to speak. They all seem to have looked into a dying animals eyes and sprung forth a whole micro culture based on their love for warm and fuzzy creatures with all sorts of psuedoscientific data that tries to justify a purely emotional stance. The original photograph in this entry is a very good example of that. If PETA is worried about zoonotic diseases, it should work to abolish the interaction with humans with all domesticated animals including cats and dogs (Ariel?). Oh, wait, it IS working toward that goal. Ingrid doesn't want any of you people owning a cat or dog because they aren't yours to own. My dog is very happy here, he will be so disappointed when I kick him to the curb.

Posted by: Christopher Cochran MD | September 23, 2007 11:46 AM

Giorgio and Mike Quinoa,
I thank you for proving my one particular point so immensely! And that is, both of you have proven that you are tremendously educated on animal rights' activism, whereby you can very easily present a vast amount of facts and insights gathered from different areas of knowledge at any given time - that are truly indisputable.
That proves the anti-animal activists make feeble, uneducated attempts with their comments because they really do not realize that they are foolishly up against the best of the best!

(This is not to say that other animal activists on this forum are not just as dynamic with their comments. I would have to write a long list of names).

Moving along, for the third time, Dr.(?) Cochran has avoided addressing the medical diagnoses that I presented to him concerning the harmful to fatal, proven medical facts about eating meat and animal-related food sources. I suppose there is no use in presenting them again to him, so meat-eaters can do their own research from reliable, factual medical sources/doctors with reference to:
high cholesterol levels, arteriosclerosis, strokes (blocked carotid arteries), the purpose for nitroglycerin meds, cardiac bypass surgery, sudden onset of a cardiac arrest (those fortunate enough to be coded), to a sudden onset of cardiac fatality. As always, there are other contributing factors to these types of diagnoses. Nevertheless, eating meat/animal-related foods "limited" or "in moderation" does not guarantee that these diagnoses will not occur - or only occurs to older people due an accumulation in the arteries because of age. I will leave it at that.

Posted by: Ariel | September 23, 2007 12:57 PM

Cochran-- Perhaps you haven't read my response to your first comment since I mistakenly addressed it to Ana. Enjoy.

Please think more critically about your question! It is obvious that it will never be the case that all slaughterhouses close down simultaneously, release their animals, and we will be left wondering, "oh dear, what will I do with these cows grazing on my front lawn?" The point is to reduce buying meat and animal products so that the demand goes down, resulting in the slaughterhouses breeding less animals and therefore keeping less animals in wretched, inhumane conditions.

Posted by: Melissa | September 27, 2007 03:59 PM

Cows,pigs, ect. are healthy since they are vegan.

Posted by: Mars | September 28, 2007 03:19 PM

"concerning the harmful to fatal, proven medical facts about eating meat and animal-related food sources. "

Breaking news for you;

Vegans die as well.

Posted by: Mars | September 29, 2007 01:29 PM

Mars,

Why don't you update wiki then?

When an animal dies due to external forces, and what its potential lifespan is, are two different things.

So which herbivores specifically have you seen pant?

Rojo (as I posted on a more recent blog),

The human body is in a constant state of breakdown and repair. All cells (not sure about brain cells) are constantly being replaced. You could have the perfect body at 20 years, become stranded on a desert island without food, and become emaciated (there goes your perfect body). The body is in continual flux. These athletes are getting both their energy and their restorative needs completely satisfied by a vegan diet.

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | October 1, 2007 03:09 PM

you guys are sentimental animal lovers! eating animals doesnt mean that you hate them. I have two cats and a dog. when the animal was killed, it probably never felt anything!

Posted by: john stevens | November 27, 2007 01:55 PM