this is really good news from attorney gerald poindexter! so i just hope that vick gets 5 years prison for each animal killed - this means if he killed seven dogs he has to spend 35 years in jail!!!

Posted by: honey | August 19, 2007 04:20 PM

Virginia is sadly a very welcoming place for dog fighters and puppy millers and other assorted animal abusers.

A breeder lobby in Virginia works very hard to prevent rules, licensing, regulations, inspections because they make large amounts of UNTAXED income in that state abusing dogs for money.

Until the laws change, then Virginia will be one of the pet profiteer states.

There is an AKC breeder in Virginia who actively organizes other breeders and pet profiteers to lobby for the "rights" of dog fighters and puppy millers to do whatever they want to dogs. ANYTHING.

When it comes to treatment of dogs, Virginia has a serious disease that needs to be cured.

And at the heart of it is a lot of people making big money that isn't reported to Virginia tax authorities or federal tax authorities.

That's why "Ookie" set up shop in Virginia.

Posted by: kelly | August 19, 2007 04:58 PM

This is great news. Lets pray for justice for these dogs. Vick and his old "friends" to get the maximum of 5 years for EACH dog murdered!!! This in addition to the federal jail time. Lets make sure he NEVER plays football again, since that is the only thing that waste of life cares about.

Posted by: Erica | August 19, 2007 05:14 PM

FINALLY!!
I was so pleased to hear of this on espn! The dogs hopefully will finally get justice! Too bad the dogs and cats and kittens and rabbits that were used to "train" them won't get justice. MANY animals suffered and died because of this illegal dogfighting. I hope Vick and his cronies get long sentences and that jail becomes a living hell for them!! I would like to see this happen to ALL dogfighters!

Posted by: Ana | August 19, 2007 05:20 PM

I hope Vick never gets to play football again, and has to do at least 20 years in jail. Maybe he will think next time he wants to see something helpless die.

Posted by: Marjorie Hass | August 19, 2007 06:01 PM

Unfortunately, I just heard on local Richmond, VA news that Vick's attorneys are requesting that any Federal Plea bargain will also include that Virginia will not prosecute. I think Poindexter knows this, and never really wanted to bring charges against Vick, so now he is talking big to appease others and will say he cannot prosecute when the plea bargain is entered. Frnakly, I think that is why he did not charge him in August-he wanted to save face with all the dog abusers and Vick supporters down in Surry County. Hopefully, he will not serve another term there.

Posted by: Susan | August 19, 2007 06:42 PM

I hope this sends a strong messege to thousands of dog fighters that the law is after you... wherever or whoever you are. There is no excuse for animal abuse. Dogs and all animals will have rights soon.

Posted by: Eddie Shalom | August 19, 2007 07:28 PM

everytime i see vicks stupid face on the news i want to vomit, He is someone who makes my stomach lurch when i see his face

Posted by: carolyn | August 19, 2007 09:37 PM

It just tickles me pink that now, after he's basically admitted to dogfighting, all of his little supporters have stopped commenting on the subject. All that talk about how we needed to support a fellow "human being", and yet as soon as things got really bad, they ran away. One thing criminals and their supporters lack is COMMITMENT. I, as an animal activist, am committed to defending animals. I'd walk through fire, I'd crawl through broken glass, I'd endure anything to save animals. And I would do exactly the same for a human being. While animal-haters seem to only be capable of loving themselves, I fight for the rights of EVERYONE. And I'm not the only one. There are many more committed people, just like me. Cruelty is dying out, and soon, abusers will have to adapt to this new, humane world. And that's just the way the world works.

Posted by: Brianna Fritchey | August 19, 2007 09:47 PM

I would absolutely LOVE to see Vick serve five years in jail for each animal he executed. I think the sentences should run consecutively. How dare he has so little respect for a living creature! It is my hope that his attorneys and Federal prosecutors are unable to meet a plea agreement and he serves the max in that case as well. And....if this clown thinks he will be returning to the NFL at any point, he is sorely mistaken. His next job should be a poop-scooper at a vet clinic.

Posted by: Jane | August 19, 2007 10:15 PM

It seems that the priority for charges on Vick through the NFL is for the gambling charges. How can an organization excuse the cruelty exhibited with this individual. Hanging and electrocution of the dogs is such a heinous crime, that to place it second in severity to gambling is absolutely unthinkable. Please continue to press for the longest possible sentences

Posted by: Sandy | August 19, 2007 10:17 PM

THEY SHOULD EXECUTE HIM!!!! lol

Posted by: Veg Girl | August 20, 2007 12:57 AM

Interesting about Poindexter. What can we do to assure that he does his job for the people and by the people. We dont need "good ol' boys".

Posted by: vicki hood | August 20, 2007 02:21 AM

I propose that if Michael Vick is allowed to play again in the NFL, and some stupid team actually signs him, that not only do fans of that team boycott their games, but games of every opposing team they play are boycotted as well. If NFL owners see their bottom line hurting, they will understand how serious the public views this heinous crime.

Posted by: Tim | August 20, 2007 10:31 AM

I believe that before you prosecute and talk trash about Michael Vick you should have all the facts. There are stone cold killers, rapist, and child molesters out there and what is your organization doing to convict them. I believe that you are just doing this because he is famous. No one cares if Paris Hilton drives drunk and kills a child. But let a man who is not yet proven guilty get accused and you dog him out.

Posted by: jim jones | August 20, 2007 11:06 AM

Hold on a sec, yall won't the guys who ratted vick out to pay too, Since when did vick replace Bin Laden as public enemy #1. The Axis of Evil #2 starring Mike Vick. The Father, Son, The Holy Ghost and last but not least the Dog. In Dog We Trust, God Bless America, sorry, the Dog. I like dogs like everyone else but come on people yall going to far with this. Champion a cause like stopping war, drugs, rape of women and children, stalking, DUI, Hunting, oh wait as long as it's not dogs then all other animals we will make due, cry about you hate hunting all you want, destroy the next athlete's life for killing a defenseless animal, Heck i should join PETA, I don't eat meat, hunt, but wait i don't champion scapegoat causes, two out of three ain't bad,

Posted by: DLP | August 20, 2007 12:15 PM

My question is why this individual Michael Vicks is only prosecuted in Virginia when the prosecutors have proof of his Bad Newz Kennels fighting dogs in others states so I believed they must be prosecuted by every single STATE where they have proof that they were fighting dogs and gambling too.Please the justice system and god make sure that these people pay for what they are doing to this poor animals, PLEASE god be fair and make them suffer too because they deserved to be punished.

Posted by: Roberto | August 20, 2007 01:09 PM

Dick(do I mean Vick?)should get the maximum charges against him!As a role model, he should also play his role in" You do the crime, you do the time."

Posted by: Courtney | August 20, 2007 01:17 PM

NO PLEA BARGAIN FOR VICK,
and when he goes to prison, he should change his name to " Ben Dover".
i believe he ll enjoy it very much.
rot in hell, vick.

Posted by: ann | August 20, 2007 01:53 PM

when the humane society and peta put down the dogs found in vick's property,
they should invite roger goodell and arthur blank to attend it in order to see the horrible crime vick and his " bro team " has committed.
and hv it videoed, to show on tv for the general purblic to see it also.
rot in hell vick.

Posted by: ann | August 20, 2007 01:57 PM

I hope that the Football league prohibits Vick from ever playing football again!!! He is a terrible role model for our youth and everyone else in this country!! I think that organizations such as PETA and other animal and for that matter human rights groups should take it upon themselves to champion the helpless animal victims of Mr. Vick and demand he never play football in his lifetime!!! With all the money he has now, if he is allowed to return to playing, he will not have been truly punished for his sick acts against innocent dogs!! We recently had a radioshow personality fired for making comments which were not right, well Mr. Vick should be fired from his job, too!!!!

Posted by: Fran Lipsky | August 20, 2007 02:34 PM

Now that Vick has agreed to a plea deal, who do we get in touch with to make sure that his punishment is as severe as possible and not just a slap on the wrist. Personally, I wanted him to go to trial on RICCO charges which could have put him in jail for 20 years. Can we petition the judge not to accept the plea deal and go for the max? I don't want to ever see him on the football field again.

Posted by: nan mcclain | August 20, 2007 02:34 PM

all you people are sick. he is a human being for christ's sake.

Posted by: concerned | August 20, 2007 03:00 PM

I think this site lowers the value of human life for animal. I understand all of your points about value and respect for animal life. But humans are the most valuable resource on this earth. I don't Understand why such an outrage over Vick but not one everyday at every slaughter house south of the mason dixie line. No body on this site is concerned with things going on in the Sudan or enslavement of HUMANS in Africa over Diamonds but VICK is a Criminal and VICK should PAY not Those who Kill HUMANS. Wake up people "Rover" and "Fluffy" aren't HUMAN they can't perserve life, they can't protect life more important they can't save lives. Humans are doctors, scientist and presidents not DOGS or CATS. I love animals I do but never at the expense of a human life never for no reason. I thank you for your time and your respect to hear both sides of the coin.

Posted by: La'Mont | August 20, 2007 03:08 PM

I hope Vicks and company pay for their action this will be a perfect example of justice for those animals and for other people that they will get caught and jail will be their home for long time,animals need to be protected with strongest law to avoid people like Vicks if we can call people to this individual but anyways I hope you pay for this and never forget, If I am the Judge I will sentenced himto death in a room with trained dogs to kill him because that's what he deserved, Michael Vicks hell is the perfect placed for you pieze of waste.

Posted by: Roberto | August 20, 2007 03:11 PM

See, the reason dog fighting is so brutal in the first place is because its illegal. If we legalize it and regulate it into more of dog wrestling, it wont be so brutal. I think this is a smarter thing to do to prevent cruelty to these dogs as much as possible. Lets face it, dog fighting will never be rooted out all together.

Posted by: Shawn | August 20, 2007 03:12 PM

I think we all need to step back and take a deep breath here. I am a huge animal lover but I think we need some perspective here. 20 to 30 years in prison? I think that's a little far-fetched. I do think some jail time might serve a purpose, but within reason, along the lines of what has been discussed (anywhere from 2-5 years).

Posted by: Good Grief | August 20, 2007 03:18 PM

That would be great if the Virginia Commonwealth Attorney of Surry County FINALLY does his job! GERALD POINDEXTER was never keen in doing anything regarding MICHAEL CONVICK and ILLEGAL DOGFIGHTING. All he did was sit on his hands and then got upset when the FEDS came in. PLEASE DO YOUR JOB GERALD POINDEXTER AND DO IT RIGHT!!!!!!!

Posted by: tia | August 20, 2007 03:39 PM

I'm amazed at how many people are appalled by what Vick did, yet where is the outcry for human life or do i have to continue hearing how we've become to murder in our communities.

Posted by: R LEWIS | August 20, 2007 03:50 PM

ana
it's a shame on the rest of us that we never brought up about the other innocent animals used to train for viciousness. i admit my shame and believe they're all at peace through Divine Justice

Posted by: observer | August 20, 2007 03:55 PM

I want to personally thank PETA once again for it's tremendous contribution to saving the lives of animal and hold those that conduct this horror on animals held accountable. I do believe without PETA's help Vick would have plead not guilty and gotten away with this. I LOVE PETA and it has fueled my fire to become totally animal free and a voice to the animals that can't speak for themselves. Thank you for all that you are and all that you do. Yet, for all reading PETA can give us the information yet we all need to stay informed and be an example for the treatment of all the beautiful animals.

Posted by: Vicki | August 20, 2007 03:59 PM

To PETA,I understand your stand on animal abuse but for you and anybody to hold a animal life equal to a human life is far out.vick should recieve no more than probation and community service.i know this may not get posted but i support vick and wish a slow death on anyone who is pushing for my fellow brother to be destroyed because of a mistake.

Posted by: EMANUEL | August 20, 2007 04:06 PM

I don't understand why the federal government agreed to a plea with Vick. If he's guilty, and he is, why not go to court and punish him to the fullest extent of the law?? I am so tired of people not getting what they deserve when they do something wrong!! I hope the NFL will stand up and suspend him for life. But sadly he'll be back playing and making $$$$$$$ again. What a country!!

Posted by: Allan | August 20, 2007 04:10 PM

This MONSTER must be punished. It sicken me to know that this smug monster will get a small fraction of the punishment he deserves!As far as him feeling ANY REMORSE for his actions he is only sorry that he got caught!!

Posted by: Pamela Ashton | August 20, 2007 04:20 PM

POINDEXTER is a sorry excuse of a commonwealth attorney. He never wanted to do anything regarding Michael Convick and illegal dogfighting and only because these charges are up in federal court is he FINALLY DOING SOMETHING. Let's hope POINDEXTER WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND DO HIS JOB FINALLY!

Posted by: tia | August 20, 2007 04:23 PM

Thank you for not backing down on the Michael Vick charges. Let this be a message to all that think dog fighting is cool, let them know most of us love our animals and can not stomach what Vick and his friends have done to these dogs.
Please do not back down. Thank you.
Janice

Posted by: janice hope | August 20, 2007 04:43 PM

Yay Michael Vick is guilty, big whoop. If you think Michael Vick's convitction will make any signifigant progress in the fight against illegal dogfighting in this country, you are just stupid. The fact remains that Vick is a multi-millionaire, he does'nt need money from dogfighting. 1500 and 2000 dollar wagers are pocket money for Vick. what we need to do, instead of celebrating and whoo-hooing Vick's conviction we need to find out who the real players are. If a high profile athelete as wealthy as Vick can run a big dogfighting operation in secrecy for 6 years, imagine what a professional dogfighter has probably done over those sameyears. It appears that nobody cares about all the other guys involved in this story,not only Vick's co defendants, but the guys who brought dogs from all over the country to fight Vick's dogs. I'm willing to bet that the guys who brought dogs in to fight vick's dogs are just as heavily involved (if not more, these guys probably make a living from dogfighting) and probably have killed more dogs than Vick is accused of. The bottom line is that dogfighting does not begin or end with Vick, his operation is shut down, now what will we do about the thousands of dogs that will die this year at the hands of people not named Vick?

Posted by: Anthony Perkins | August 20, 2007 04:46 PM

Notice a common thread? All the PRO animal abusers whine that everyone should care about "humans."

The dog fighters and puppy millers etc all want people to LOOK THE OTHER WAY. Ignore the animal abuse.

So they can go on making money from it.

Posted by: kelly | August 20, 2007 05:03 PM

kelly
I notice the common thread.

Actually animals do make an impact on human health...they affect the quality and length of life (read the scientific data). Animals also warn humans of danger and do rescue work.

Emanuel
I guess you are pushing for your "fellow brother" to have a slow death since he alone destroyed himself through his own stupidity and cruel and violent nature. A mistake is stealing a lipstick; killing animals is violence, immoral and horrible; fighting dogs is illegal.

observer
I sincerely hope that these innocent creatures are at peace and in the presence of their Creator.

Posted by: Ana | August 20, 2007 06:00 PM

I am so sick of u no life as peta folk talkin shit about vick.You act as if he invented this shit,your asses probably know somebody thats doin the same shit(dogfighting).So is it more inhumane to dogfight,or hang african americans by their throats for no apparent reason.What the fuck is wrong with your idiotic asses,get a fuckin life,cause obviously Vick will not be affected by what the fuck u think,i mean who cares anyway.Vick will be more popular than ever before,it was only a test of God testing his strength,and to show black people that their is,and will always be a hatred for our race

Posted by: kelly | August 20, 2007 06:52 PM

I personally believe that we should have a law here that has a hunting season on dogfighters.People that engage in dogfighting have no souls and are only walking talking misery makers for all!They have no purpose at all on this earth.They wouldn't know how to love anything at all,including their own families!Personally, I would love to venture where fights are supposedly taking place,find where,and destroy every loser there.Instead of dog blood all over the place,well you get the picture.People that deal misery,destruction,pain,and suffering,(dogfighters), need to have the same applied to them because that is all they know!!!God Bless P.E.T.A for all there work for ALL the animals sakes on this violent and cruel planet we are on.I think we should somehow find a way to send Mr. Sick a soap on the rope in shape of a dog bone for a going away present from PETA and all of us animal lovers!!In closing I'd like to say again that all and any of you out there that engage in dogfighting and are reading this right now,before the Humane Society has to put your dog down when they do catch you,and they will, because you fucked it up for fighting purposes,they should let it tear your stupid soul less ass to pieces, but not kill you,then I'll come slam your dumb ass on the ground untill you finally expire!!!!!!!And you can say, but I'm killing a human,dogfighters arn't any humans I know and should be disposed of properly!!!Sleep tite boys!!

Posted by: Robert | August 20, 2007 08:28 PM

i truely hope michael vick, looses everything that he has aquired in his pitiful lifespan of 27 years..what ever small amount of time, he does get for his guilty plea bargained deal, it will never be enough.. at least on this earth, but if there is a god..(dog spelled backwards,) then i pray he will learn ovr and over again, what the word karma means...if he does only 3 years it certainly isnt long enough considering his crimes against nature..he is the meaning of scum..a lowlife, certainly he deserves a much longer sentence..and when he gets to prison, i hope he meets up with his worst nightmare, a big burly horney doglover, that will seek revenge and justice for michael vicks victims.i wish it were me he would meet up with..

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2007 08:32 PM

To those folks saying that there's a difference between different forms of life. Thanks, it's great that God appointed you to see life in all it's glory, not only in you but within other life forms. Now reward yourself and go get that diet p+epsi.

Posted by: Sybil | August 20, 2007 09:06 PM

EMANUEL!

IT IS NOT JUST A "MISTAKE," IT IS PURE "EVIL" AND IS BEING DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY AND RIGHTFULLY SO!

STOP HIDING BEHIND THE PEOPLE VS ANIMALS TIRED OL' LAME REASONING AND GET HELP!!

ANYONE WHO WISHES A SLOW DEATH ON ANY/THING IS SICK, SICK SICK!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2007 09:06 PM

Thanks for causing the ultimae uproar that got this guy punished! I hope he never ever plays football again -- competitive sports in all their phases are horrible, but dog-fighting (and chicken-fighting) are just a natural outgrowth of this horrid competiveness that is overwhelming this country today. I can't stand the sight of his face; and to know how many dogs he bred and TRAINED(!!!!) TO BE KILLRS is beyond human acceptance! This man and all others like him, need to go to jail now and stay there several years so they know what they have done is so repulsive to humane society. We must lift the standards for human society. Killing in any way whatsoever is against the Commandments of Christianity, Judaism and the Precepts of Buddhism. Either we have morals or we do not. You choose. PETA has chosen, now it is up to each individual who reads this to choose as well. We must instill morality in our children by condemning adults who cross these lines and kill innocent life. Thank you for allowing me to vent my terrific upset at this despicable crime. Patti

Posted by: Patti Tremaine | August 20, 2007 10:34 PM

NO PLEA FOR VICK

Posted by: Anonymous | August 20, 2007 10:40 PM

For those who are upset that PETA and the commentators are holding animals in high regards, your thoughts are appreciated, but there’s no need to get upset. This is a PETA blog, and the arguments are going to be understandably one-sided. I wouldn't go to a NRA site and complain on their view on gun control.

I think America, and the world, can all relate to loving animals. The actions Vick did, to torture and kill these animals over and over again for his pleasure, are just inhumane. Who’s to say his sick, cocky methods, if un-caught, would have stopped at pitbulls. Many children start torturing/ killing animals only to seek a bigger thrill and turn on humans. Vick is a product of a poor upraising and now has money and power. He needs to go to a mental institute, not prison, for the next 10 years to over come his deep psychological problems. Then he can serve his 5 years for illegal gambling.

Posted by: Julie | August 21, 2007 12:59 AM

Anthony Perkins:
for your info...

animal rights, protection, and welfare organizations are indeed at work!

one mere example... HSUS reports 32 dogfighting rings were broken up in 15 states this past month alone!

it is terribly naive and somewhat stupid of YOU to even think that nothing is really being done nor can be done to stop dogfighting in this hour.

Ask mVick who would NO doubt differ with you!

so, instead of subjecting wellmeaning people with your uninformed blather check out the wealth of information on this [PETA's] site and get understanding.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 01:26 AM

there is an article on google which critize " poindexter" talks from " both side of his mouth".
so, don't expect him do anything re vick the sick's crime.
for, all poindexter did for the last few months was just talking, talking, talking .......
he is USELESS.

Posted by: ann | August 21, 2007 03:28 AM

Give him a taste of his own medicine. I don't think he has a mentality of a 10 year old.Sell his house and give the money to peta and other animal rescue people.

Posted by: beverly dunkin | August 21, 2007 11:31 AM

You all are hypocrites and have blown this way out of proportion. Vick will prevail, he'll be out in 18 months with his money and back in the NFL. It's a shame you all don't show this kind of enthusiam for human life but I expect this kind of irrational behavior from "you people". Katrina victims, the kids being shot in NJ, and some many other human issues are much more important. I do take solice in that Mike made his money and will out to resume his career shortly.

Posted by: JDub | August 21, 2007 11:37 AM

Vick needs to face the consequences for what he did! There is no excuse to ever do that to dogs, let alone any animals!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 12:04 PM

Jim Jones- Paris did her time in jail, like she should have and now it is time for this criminal to do his time also. Why can't people address ALL issues of wrong and cruelty. Will it actually prevent everyone from fighting against war, rape, molestation, homicide etc if we just ignore animal abuse and let the animal abusers get away with it? No. Is protesting against animal abuse preventing the protest against crimes against humans? No. They are not mutually exclusive, you can do both beleive it or not. Why not do both and end as much suffering as possible. Violence against humans cannot be eradicated unless all violence ( including that against animals) is eradicated.

Posted by: sc | August 21, 2007 01:35 PM

To Marjorie Hass:

I hope your stupid a$$ president goes to jail for 20 years for watching his own dam people die helplessly along with the other people in thier country...i understand vick needs to go to jail for his wrong doing but some of you people like Marjorie Hass is crazy and too imaginative. Death penalty, life in prison, banned from the NFL, etc...come on now...those of you who think of the worse of Vick and is posting these crazy ideas of what should happen to them share similar thoughts to crazy Evangelists out there...check yourself..PLEASE.

Posted by: anthony | August 21, 2007 03:48 PM

Ann

I agree with you. In the beginning he appeared to not even want to pursue the dogfighting charges against Vick. Just another good ol' boy sticking up for another thug!

Posted by: Ana | August 21, 2007 04:02 PM

It'd be nice if all you ppl cared as much about HUMAN lives as you do about animals...While i think what Vick did was inhumane and cruel, I wish this country cared as much about human lives as they do against cruel animal abusers. I have a dog and love her dearly, but there are some murderers of PPL out there aka Ray Lewis who is involved in murder yet plays in the NFL and has no reprocussions...PETA is an organization I liken to the Rev Jesse Jackson in the fact the only time I hear from them is when it makes them PROFITS>>>if you read their statement about the Vic confession its all about how they are the best thing going...in contradiction the HUMANE SOCIETY has it right in saying how this is not a good day but a sad one 4 all the animals and..the PERSON who did this loses his way too...so all you self righteous ppl out there should look in the mirror especially all you PETA ppl....

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 04:20 PM

I am very surprised that the IRS isn't more interested in investigating these puppy mills and dog breeders - look at all the money they are loosing out on. It's a small determent - but maybe, just maybe, if these "breeders" weren't making so much tax-free money - they would get real jobs like real people do in the real world & wouldn't get rich at the animals expense.

Posted by: Kathy Garrey | August 21, 2007 04:30 PM

i'm glad that michael vic was found guilty and his dogs won't have to suffer any more as for that akc breeder who is encouraging others to vote in favor of dog fighting that jerk should not own any dogs and should be kicked out of the akc no one has the right to mistreat animals and i hope that none of the elected officals in VA will support any kind of dogfighting bills ans as for these puppy mill owners they should be shot.

Posted by: Laura | August 21, 2007 05:52 PM

Is there some website for pro-Vick or anti-animal people to use for quotes? Honestly, all of you "why don't you spend more time helping humans?" idiots all sound like the same person. Hmmmm, maybe there IS just one of you, signing all kinds of different names to these posts...

Posted by: Michele | August 21, 2007 06:24 PM

for the brainless anonymous one sitting up there on the judgement thrown of self righteous stupidity

some peta ppl are social activists too!!!
some are volunteers for ppl!!
some are social workers!!!
some are counselors!!
some are health workers!!!
some are emergency rescue workers!!
some are teachers!!!
some are of the religious cloth!!!
get the drift???
what do you do so great & caring for ppl????

no profits here oh great brainless one!!!

have a nice fall from your snotty thrown!!!!!

Posted by: observer | August 21, 2007 06:59 PM

I am a black woman and I'm sick of black people and white people making this a racial issue. Vick and his cohorts did horrible things to innocent, defenseless animals. BTW, most serial killers and abusive men start with hurting animals. This kind of cruelty is inhumane. I think they all should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I am ashamed to hear blacks talk this evil talk crap and, again, protect another black man who most assuredly did horror to defense creatures, not for food, not to protect himself or his family, but for greed.

Most of you blacks and whites who have made this a race issue are simply ignorant and an embarrassment to your race and humanity. You resort to name calling because you are limited intellectually and spiritually. I'll bet some of you call yourselves Christians or God fearing people. And the women who on here who speak evil about killing animals are the biggest embarrassment. You are the mothers on this planet and you speak this evil, uncaring dribble? What will you teach your children? No wonder some children are lost, black, white, whatever. Vick and his type are the most disgusting. He had it all and HE threw it away. Stop blaming others!

I know that some whites are going to be far more angry at vick because he is a black man and who made unGodly amounts of money. Some whites are jealous, still racists, and more racists because of this evil. Evil is not color blind. I won't go into the evil that men do, including whites. Like the guy on here who used the word 'nigger' referring to Vick. That guy is also ignorant. However, what Vick and friends, partners, whatever, did was so heinous to me, I can't feel angry about some yahoo calling him the 'n' word. That yahoo is angry and sometimes angry white men resort to the 'n' word. Is that news?

Check out all the dogs that help the disabled, protect us from harm, warn us about trouble or strangers, and some dogs are part of our family. They give us unconditional love. I'm sorry if some of you are just too narrow minded and ignorant to get it.

Posted by: Tami | August 21, 2007 09:11 PM

Wow. I just finished reading all those comments and I find myself somewhat ashamed. Is our society truly as uncouth, vengeful and one-sided as these comments imply? I'd encourage those who posted their opinions on this issue to go back and read what you've written. It's disheartening to read such ignorant and immature arguments. While I realize this forum is intended to allow anyone with an internet connection to speak his/her mind, I can't help but be disappointed by the negativity spewing out of nearly all of these comments. Whatever happened to turning a negative situation into a positive one? What Vick did was wrong in every sense of the word. However, it's done. Letting him sit in prison will not bring those animals back. It will not change the fact that he did what he did. So why don't you "passionate" animal activists try to convince a judge to order Vick to give some of his money to the SPCA or some organization that can use it to fund efforts to prevent dogfighting?

I'm sure that suggestion (as well as this post) will be met with bitterness and snide remarks. That seems to be the ongoing theme with this forum. But, hey, at least I TRIED to make a suggestion on how to help other animals. I challenge all of you activists to do the same. Consider it a form of taking action. Isn't that what activists do?

Before I end this, just a couple of quick obsrvations:

- all the remarks that included sentiments about how Vick should be punished in same manner in which he hurt animals perpetuate the negative stereotypes about PETA being an organization full of paint-hurling lunatics.
-the comment in which an individual asked god to bring Vick to justice via death perpetuates the negative stereotypes about religious extremists being self-righteous hypocrites.

Have a nice day =)

Posted by: Stephanie | August 22, 2007 02:23 AM

First of all thanks PETA for all the couragous thing they did for animals. Michael Vick is guilty and deserve a stronger sentence for animal cruelty and outter ring gambling. For all of you who comment that we should be helping people instead, well then you're at the wrong website and please go to the correct one and post how you HELP a person. I love animals and I also HELP people everyday for i am a nurse...you get my drift. Well i hope you all PRo-Vick rott in hell with him. Cause you are all selfish if you only think about how a human life is supposively better then an animal. This world should be a balance of both.

Posted by: icare | August 22, 2007 07:07 AM

michele
right on!!!! one or 50, programmed to be limited like assholes!!! farts and daily shit comes out!!!!! waste excretions!!!!

Posted by: observer | August 22, 2007 08:23 AM

First off, Vick needs to go to jail. Period. End of discussion. How much time he does and what fines he will pay are not up to us to decide. But it will be a MAJOR disgrace to let this deranged individual get away with what he has done. I love people and I love animals, too. I do not feel that a person's life is less important than an animal. But I do believe that animals have no voice - they cannot protect themselves from someone who has the power to hurt and torment them as Vick and his assoicates have done repeatedly. I cannot imagine who the hell wants to see this man play football ever again. So, he was an outstanding NFL player - do you think there will be no others that can play as well as he? There will be many more down the road that the Falcons can recruit. If you sit and think about what he really did - I mean, really think about it. He hung and drowned dogs and let them fight to their deaths. What kind of twisted mind does he have?? Whether it was people or animals, it is still VERY wrong and downright scary that someone can be so violent. He stood there, no scratch that, he choked and drowned the life out of living things. For all of you Vick supporters out there and for the ones who think that PETA is going overboard, I urge you to THINK about the real crime and the actual act of it. It's not just dogs that died, it's that Vick was okay with killing them and he obviously enjoyed it, as well as spending his money to fund it. I personally hope he never plays football ever again and even if he does, you gotta know that he has more enemies now than fans. His fans won't be enough to get him out of this. Vick's life is never going to be the same again, no matter what his fans want to believe. He should have thought about his family, his career, and his fans before he committed those crimes.

Posted by: Natalie | August 22, 2007 10:09 AM

Oh, how nice of Gerald Poindexter! He has known of Vick's house of horrors for months and done nothing, nothing, nothing. If the Feds hadn't taken over the case, Vick's activities would have never been public. What's up Gerald? Celebrity envy, race bias, or were you a guest at the bloody festivities? Finally get some balls!(And I don't mean footballs)

Posted by: nan mcclain | August 22, 2007 10:36 AM

Dear Concerned,

Sounds like you are co-dependent
Which explains why you care so much for a murderer. You obviously struggle through life coming to the aid of felons. Is your boyfriend incarcerated and you have weekend visits? Maybe you can go visit VICK. Personally I support the victims not the perpetrators. You need to see a shrink.

Posted by: Ruth | August 22, 2007 12:12 PM

Anyone who doesn't think that Vick deserves 20-30 years in prison has never had a dog or cat or any animal that is your best friend and you can look in their eyes and see all the love that they have for you. We suffered the loss of our 9 year old poodle and three months later the loss of our 13 year old german sherpard.Just because they are called amimals does not mean that they don't have feelings or a heart. Vick doesn't have either. He should go to prison and with any luck he will be treated the same way he did the dogs.

Posted by: Sandy | August 22, 2007 01:03 PM

I'm glad that VICK ADMITTED HIS GUILT. Hopefully the justice system will take care of the rest. There is no way of telling what a person supports via a blog commentary although for many its easy to vent and act out with hostility because its anonymous. I love people and I love animals. As a supporter of human rights and animal rights, I'm going to show my support in a positive way-through my actions by voting and educating those around me. When ANYONE chooses to break the law they should be held accountable. It would be such a wonderful thing if Michael Vick donated his time and money to ASPCA as well as working with NPIN, or to organizations who help children who have been abused or homeless people.

Posted by: Crystal Howe | August 22, 2007 01:18 PM

Jim Jones: The facts? The world is full of facts. But we aren't talking Rape here. Or, Paris Hilton, either. We are talking respect for all living things and of the rights of animals, who must have others speak for them and act on their behalf. Take your venom somewhere else. This is a forum for caring, intelligent individuals who act on their beliefs.

Posted by: Karen | August 22, 2007 01:31 PM

Natalie Poster August 22 10:09 am.....

Natalie. You state the case beautifully, completely, and intelligently. Thank you!

Posted by: Karen | August 22, 2007 01:39 PM

Stephanie:
many of us here are trying to be very nice: sometimes this is not possible because we have an uneducated dirty mob in front of us who is offending and telling lies and perverted nonsense. i'm an animal protector since over fourty years! our ennemy is ruthless, coward and without mercy and i'm not kneeling to his feet and bowing my head in front of a rascal! i don't care what an animal hater has to blame me because he has no human sympathy - neither have i!

Posted by: jupiter | August 22, 2007 01:41 PM

nan mcclean... excellent point!

it is my understanding that Gerald Poindexter has indeed known of vick's house of horrors for a long time and did nothing, nothing, NOTHING!

and I do believe that the ONLY reason he is making it known that he intends to bring state charges against vick is to "save face" knowing full well that part of vick's plea bargain may [or does] include that vick will NOT have to face any state charges!!!
and... he probably was a guest at the bloody festivites!

HOPEFULLY, poindexter WILL come through and we can count on state charges actually getting filed!

Posted by: 007 | August 22, 2007 01:41 PM

don't u guys even know poindexter talks from both side of his mouth? lol.
he is not going to bring charges on vick, for vick is his kind, his boy, and a celeb in his state.
he is dragging his feet, just to see if " his " reputation is going to hurt if he doesn't charge vick the sick.

Posted by: ann | August 22, 2007 01:50 PM

I'm glad that VICK ADMITTED HIS GUILT. Hopefully the justice system will take care of the rest. There is no way of telling what a person supports via a blog commentary although for many its easy to vent and act out with hostility because its anonymous. I love people and I love animals. As a supporter of human rights and animal rights, I'm going to show my support in a positive way-through my actions by voting and educating those around me. When ANYONE chooses to break the law they should be held accountable. It would be such a wonderful thing if Michael Vick donated his time and money to ASPCA as well as working with NPIN, or to organizations who help children who have been abused or homeless people.

Posted by: Crystal Howe | August 22, 2007 02:11 PM

dear natalie re post 8/22 @ 10:09am

thank you for a most eloquent and real post.
my sentiments exactly!

Posted by: 007 | August 22, 2007 02:23 PM

stephanie
wow. amazing how your observations are one sided to reading only uncouth comments!!! no positive or mature ones at all stephanie???? amazing that you don't think vick the law breaker should go to prison!!! I challenge you to read your own comments that come across as one sided and pro slap on the wrist for federal law breakers . maybe a bit better than thou too????
not snide or bitterness. just observations by observer.
by the way us passionate animal activists don't try to convince judges to have federal lawbreakers donate to animal organizations.

Posted by: observer | August 22, 2007 02:28 PM

jDumb - dream on!
or WAKE UP and get real!!!

Posted by: 007 | August 22, 2007 03:01 PM

To theb person who thinks dogs are not Human.
They can do many things.Be a Police Dog,Trained to find people.To snif out drugs crossing our boarders.Used in Airports for security,Used in the Military.
Help the Blind.Dogs are people's pets and yes as Humans we do need them.

Posted by: Anita Obertubbesing | August 22, 2007 03:49 PM

shame on you peta. For real, Vick is a football player, high profile and black. It's not the dogs, it's not the crime. It's the publicity which leads to more money. You hung the man as soon as you saw a headline, just for air time. You all say he should get "life, 5 years for each dog, 20 years, never play in the NFL again" as there are murderers and rapist, walking our streets. Rape is a 5-25 year sentence. But that's ok, the dog that died is much more crucial to humanity than the 5 year old girl who had her innocence taken by a 40 year old man who will most likely do the same crime as soon as he does his time and gets out. Or the drunk driver who hit and killed the 10 year old boy riding his bike and got 18 months and probation. If you put half the energy into fighting against these real criminals as you have against Mr. Vick our society would be a more prominent place. Not saying that Michael didn't do a crime, but to crucify the man for dogs? Our hunters better watch their backs, although you have been on them for a while too but I won't even get into that. Everything has the right to life; but to me, and most sensible people, human life and perseverance are top priority and ruining a mans life for a dogs is absurd. So again shame on you, now if you'll excuse me I have to find out how much prison time I'm looking at for killing the spider that just crawled across my hand.

Posted by: Mike | August 22, 2007 09:03 PM

I am so disssscuuusted!!!! with what African poeple are calling this rasciam. It is a huge crime and poeple who do this is like serial killers who enjoys inflicting pain on defenceless animals!! They must be stopped!! Please we must find them all and punish them all !!!!

Posted by: sherry cosentino | August 23, 2007 09:06 AM

I was totally disgusted when I saw what was done to those poor helpless animals. Those are evil people involved in the Vick case or anywhere in the world where dog fighting is going on . There should be much much harsher penalities for abuse of any kind to animals.Time in jail and in their pocketbook will hurt not just a slap on the wrist. Also lets get over using the race card, its really getting old.He should lose his career ,he is a disgrace to the sport.

Posted by: janet | August 23, 2007 10:02 AM

Some people just don't get it!...We are trying to educate the
ignorant people who don't understand what they are really doing...KILLING!!!
Taking any life is against the law, any why shouldn't it be?!...Maybe it will make other dog fighters stop and think about what they are getting themselves into...It may also help people consider hurting animals before they do it...If all our athlete's/movie stars/and rich are allowed to get away with everything, what are they telling the people and CHILDREN in the country???...They are just telling them its ok that they can be more violent!
We are trying to stop the violence and killing in this country, not add to it!...Its not a racial thing, thats just a cop out, a way to escape what has been done wrong!
I would hope the NFL will justify their decision in this matter, as the USA should!!!
STOP THE VIOLENCE IN THE USA!!!

Posted by: ann | August 23, 2007 10:16 AM

mike
i'm going to point out to you just how stupid you are for real!!! vick was exposed by the federal government for illegal gambling doing it for 5 years!!!! poor millionaire vick used innocent dogs for racketeering $$$$$$$!!! torturing!!! killing!!! electrocuting!!! that's a long stretch of insanity!!!! the news picked up on him 'cuz he's a celebrity. vick isn't a 3 year old who doesn't know any better!!!! vick admitted guilt!!! naturally it's easier to blame peta for ruining his life then to admit the truth!!!!! peta is not part of our legislative government!!! peta doesn't make the laws!!! psycho lawbreakers like vicious vick don't make for a prominent society!!! psychos like vick don't always stop at torturing dogs!!! they are known to abuse women and kids!!!! murderers. rapists. kids fear him now!!! get the drift????? i doubt it!!!!
put half your energy into getting smart then you wouldn't be so dumb!!!!

Posted by: observer | August 23, 2007 03:18 PM

YEAH GIVE VICK 35 YRS FOR DEATH OF DOGS AND WRITE GEORGE BUSH IN THE HISTORY BOOKS, HE JUS KILLED 5000 U.S. SOLDIERS RIGHT?

Posted by: wayne | June 10, 2008 06:14 PM