I feel so bad for all of his dogs. They have known only toment their whole lives. If there were a way to save them without putting other animals and people in danger, I would be the first to say. But that is not possible. I do believe that because of his part in this so called "sport", Michael Vick should also be charged (and charged hard) in the death of these poor dogs after being put to
sleep.

Posted by: Charlene | August 28, 2007 10:07 AM

These dogs must be saved as testimony to Vicks barbaric behaviour., and to show the World At Large Humanity still has a place in this Wretched Universe.

Posted by: keith | August 28, 2007 10:19 AM

I think you animal rights people are full of crap. First yes what vick did was wrong but what about these white men that hunt and guess what, they are not eating what they kill or horse racing, the way they beat the hell out of the horse to entertain people and i could go on and on, you people are full of crap, you just need vick to make a name for you because nobody gave a damn before this.
Tell you what if you attack the president or vice president or congress for hunting i will believe you people care as of right now i think you are a joke that needed someone famous for people to know and care who you are

Posted by: allahgehovah jones | August 28, 2007 10:30 AM

Bravo, Jack...thanks for explaining this sensitive issue so eloquently!

Posted by: BullyDawg | August 28, 2007 10:43 AM

I agree. Its sad to have to euthanize these dogs, but what kind of life do they have to look forward to in cages and segregation??

Posted by: Andrea | August 28, 2007 10:44 AM

Excellent point. I absolutely despise knowing that these dogs will die, but know that if they don't die, it will simply be another. You're spot-on saying that euthanasia is not a choice of "if," but rather "which." I would like to add that it's also simply a matter of "where." Even if a "no-kill" or turn-away shelter opens up, it will simply fill it's cages and only take "healthy, adoptable animals." A trained fighting dog is not adoptable -- most no-kill shelters would turn these dogs away and make some other shelter do the dirty work while they feign having moral high ground. Thanks for discussing the issue of euthanasia so succinctly and directly!

Posted by: anti-sean | August 28, 2007 11:00 AM

Unfortunately, this tact, while seeming to be the most humane, is in effect, the easy wasy out. Since it is not our place to kill ANY of God's creatures, we cannot then turn around and do it because we feel there is no other alternative. God made us stewards of his creations, that means we must protect those creatures from harm AND we must do all that we can to help these dogs as well. That means, we are all tasked by God to give these animals HOPE, HAPPINESS and LIFE. Yes, they do not belong in cages, but they CAN have happy lives...it just takes a little effort. After all, it is what all animals want...life. They simply want to survive and be happy.
IF...making them happy is a difficult task.......so be it!!!!!!

Paul

Posted by: Paul Calpin | August 28, 2007 11:02 AM

Don't worry Peta you don't have to spend the millions of dollars you make on these dogs or any other dogs let friends for life save them. You just won't get the recognition or donations for it,they will. I understand that this is a business that you have and you don't want anyone getting in your way. What is the difference between you and Vick (JUST KILL THEM WHEN THEY DON'T MEET YOUR STANDARDS)

Posted by: kim | August 28, 2007 11:05 AM

I am currently eating a bacon cheeseburger, a side order of nuggets and I'm wearing a fur coat. Bless America!

Posted by: brandon gaymon | August 28, 2007 11:20 AM

I still believe with alot of time and patience that these dogs can overcome their problems. We all know how PETA wants all pit bulls DEAD!! They constantly remind us of that fact but just consider for one moment if you were one of these dogs and weren't even given the chance to change and just put to sleep. How would that would make you feel? Like again no one cared? I say we stop the "not caring" and start CARING! It won't be an overnight change but I have to believe that there are more caring and PATIENT people out there willing to help. I do beleive in alot that PETA does for animals but there notion that all pit bulls should just be terminated is extremely outrageous especially from an organization who claims to love all animals so much.

Posted by: Carolyn Barnes | August 28, 2007 11:23 AM

I think that the "Vick dogs" should be turned over to the USHS & Best Friends organizations and be checked by their team of behavioral evaluators (which both organizations are trying to accomplish at this time)By the time they are - if ever - ready to be adopted or fostered - they will not be done so with the "Vick" name attached to them - so for PETA to say they will be stolen or sensationalized being "Vick dogs" is ridiculous. I always told people that they were off the mark when saying PETA was for the killing of Pit Bulls - these dogs deserve a chance to show they are still loving creatures and should be treated as such. I also would like to add that big deal if Vicks reps had him say that dog fighting was terrible and told young kids not to do what he did - the only reason he said those things is because he got caught!

Posted by: Brenda | August 28, 2007 11:35 AM

I say Neuter Mike Vick so he wont breed any more ignorance into this world

Posted by: marie oneal | August 28, 2007 11:41 AM

The sacrifice of any healthy animal should always be the last resort. These dogs are a special case because their owner has said that he is sorry and now wants to prove it.
That being the case Mr. Vick has enough money to build specific kennels for their comfort and employ a professional, responsible person who can actually deal with dogs that have been trained for fighting and cares enough to look after them. I bet there is someone out there who would be more than willing to take this job on.If Mr. Vick is truly sorry for what he did to these animals surely this would be a step in the right direction. These dogs have suffered enough and do not deserve to die. Maybe this could be the start of a new chapter in Mr. Vick´s life as well!

Posted by: Maureen | August 28, 2007 11:46 AM

While I will not dispute any of the agruments made above about why these dogs should be euthanized, I respecfully disagree. They are individuals and must be treated as individuals. I can think of and have written elsewhere about 14 reasons why they should be spared, especially since Vick will have to pay for their long-term casre, money that would otherwise have been spent on diamond earrings, fine wool suits, fancy cars and the like. Whatever pleasant lives these dogs will have, however solitary they may be, will be better than death. So for the first time since I have supported PETA in more than 20 years, I disagree with their conclusion, although I respect their reasoning. If we cannot find a soltuion for this problem, how can we even think about finding solutions for the much tougher problems regarding animals that lie ahead of us or are here already.

Posted by: Ed | August 28, 2007 11:57 AM

Andrea,
Look up friends for life. They are willing to take these dogs and give them a chance at normal life. They attack other animals not humans so put in the right situation they can be saved. Its just easier and cheaper to put them down its all about money. Peta does not want to spend their millions on useless dogs. RIGHT PETA
Peta is also against hunting when for the most part not that i would ever be able to kill an animal they think it is ok to put these and other dogs down but isn't hunting mostly used for food and keeping the population down so the animals don't starve, or get hit by cars. Tell me what is the difference. Things need to be done for the right reasons and as humanely as possible, but when an organization is willing to help. LET THEM

Posted by: kim | August 28, 2007 12:00 PM

I would like to address the issue of comparing dogfighting to hunting. I personally would never go hunting, but there is no comparison. Dogs forced into fighting to the death never experience even one moment of joy in their lives from the moment of conception via "rape rooms" to the horrific "training" that begins when they are puppies, and horrible deaths if they are not vicious enough to be killers, to the life of a fighting dog, being "pitted" time and again and forced to tear another dog to pieces, many times a process that may take hours and if the dogs tire and don't want to continue, the are forced with electric shock to continue until one dog is dead. Dogs do not normally kill each other, even in fights over territory. The "winners" of these fights are wounded, sometimes mortally and wind up dying anyway. How can you compare hunting to this? Hunters pride themselves on a "clean kill" causing as little suffering as possible. Michael Vick and others who glamorize this vile practice are sadistic sociopaths, and, incidentally, there is no "Sadistic Sociopaths" 30-day rehab programs. These people have borderline personality disorders who do not get better, they just get worse. If Vick and others do not think they are being treated fairly, well they chose to commit these vile acts against helpless, innocent animals, they deserve no mercy, they gave no mercy.

Posted by: Eden Courtney | August 28, 2007 12:17 PM

All of the dogs deserve a chance at retraining by experts who work with former tortured, fighting pitbulls. It is expensive, but according to the plea the sadist Vick will have to pay all expenses for the dogs.THEY are the only ones who merit a second chance.
Quit mouthing the Marbury rubbish--which is an apology for the criminal--and stick to the subject: the innocent pit bulls need to be saved.

Posted by: BHM | August 28, 2007 12:35 PM

I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT AS A AFRICAN AMERICAN WE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER. I HAVE SEEN SO MUCH GO ON IN CORPOATE AMERICA AND FRANKLY I'M SICK OF IT. YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HUNT ANIMALS FOR FUN AND OTHERS WHO WATCH BULL FIGHTS AND PLACE BETS AND NEITHER THE ORGANIZATIONS OR PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE ACTIVITIES RECEIVE ANY PUBLICITY. SINCE THESE PETA PEOPLE ARE SO INTO ANIMALS STOP BULLFIGHTING AND HUNTING AND BEING ABLE TO TAKE FISH OUT OF THERE HABITAT AND EAT. SEE THINGS LIKE THIS GO UNRECOGNIZED. WHY? BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HAT DO THESE THINGS AAREN'T SIGNING 130 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT THEY DONT CARE. MICHEAL VICK IS AN OUTSTANDING ATHLETE WHO IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PAID IN NFL AND THESE DEVILISH PEOPLE IN AMERICA CAN'T DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT A BLACK MALE IS RICH AND HE'S RICH THE LEGAL WAY. WE ALL FEEL BAD FOR THESE ANIMALS BUT IF WE FEEL THAT BAD FEEL BAD FOR ALL ANIMALS NOT JUST DOGS THAT IRONICALLY WERE BEING ABUSED BY A BLACK MAN.

Posted by: VICKFAN | August 28, 2007 01:07 PM

I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT AS A AFRICAN AMERICAN WE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER. I HAVE SEEN SO MUCH GO ON IN CORPORATE AMERICA AND FRANKLY I'M SICK OF IT. YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HUNT ANIMALS FOR FUN AND OTHERS WHO WATCH BULL FIGHTS AND PLACE BETS AND NEITHER THE ORGANIZATIONS OR PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE ACTIVITIES RECEIVE ANY PUBLICITY. SINCE THESE PETA PEOPLE ARE SO INTO ANIMALS STOP BULLFIGHTING AND HUNTING AND BEING ABLE TO TAKE FISH OUT OF THERE HABITAT AND EAT. SEE THINGS LIKE THIS GO UNRECOGNIZED. WHY? BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT DO THESE THINGS AAREN'T SIGNING $130 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT THEY DONT CARE. MICHEAL VICK IS AN OUTSTANDING ATHLETE WHO IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PAID IN NFL AND THESE DEVILISH PEOPLE IN AMERICA CAN'T DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT A BLACK MALE IS RICH AND HE'S RICH THE LEGAL WAY. WE ALL FEEL BAD FOR THESE ANIMALS BUT IF WE FEEL THAT BAD FEEL BAD FOR ALL ANIMALS NOT JUST DOGS THAT IRONICALLY WERE BEING ABUSED BY A BLACK MAN.
STAY STRONG VICK!!!!!! YOUR BLACK QUEEN

Posted by: VICKFAN | August 28, 2007 01:09 PM

There is no other way to give these poor dogs peace. As far as the comments of allahgehovah jones, they may be using Vick but there is NOTHING wrong with bringing things to light on the coattails of someone famous. Now people have no choice but to see this crap really does go on. I agree about the horse racing and would never attend anything where the animals are forced to perform for “my enjoyment”. I can throw the ball for my babies at home and have enough entertainment. You can’t compare hunting (which as far as I am concerned is wrong too) to dog fighting, come on... Hunters want a clean kill. One shot and its over. These dogs, no so much. They are beaten all their lives. Forced to endure long periods of time without water or food. Forced to run on tread mills and other things for long periods of time. Forced to train in many cruel ways such as carry weights around their bodies/necks to build strength. Same with horse racing, dog racing, ect... How can anyone compare this to the one shot hunter?? Again, I am not saying hunting is ok but really come on, there is no comparison here.

Posted by: wealwaysfakeit | August 28, 2007 01:26 PM

Coincidentally, allahgehovah_jones, Ingrid Newkirk has already contacted Cheney about his hunting habits and more recently bashed Karl Rove for his anti-animal comments and hunting. Both were featured on numerous television and print outlets. I'm supposing you don't follow the news before posting heated, undereducated opinions. Nice try.

Posted by: anti-sean | August 28, 2007 01:33 PM

There is no other way to give these poor dogs peace. As far as the comments of allahgehovah jones, they may be using Vick but there is NOTHING wrong with bringing things to light on the coattails of someone famous. Now people have no choice but to see this crap really does go on. I agree about the horse racing and would never attend anything where the animals are forced to perform for “my enjoyment”. I can throw the ball for my babies at home and have enough entertainment. You can’t compare hunting (which as far as I am concerned is wrong too) to dog fighting, come on... Hunters want a clean kill. One shot and its over. These dogs, no so much. They are beaten all their lives. Forced to endure long periods of time without water or food. Forced to run on tread mills and other things for long periods of time. Forced to train in many cruel ways such as carry weights around their bodies/necks to build strength. Same with horse racing, dog racing, ect... How can anyone compare this to the one shot hunter?? Again, I am not saying hunting is ok but really come on, there is no comparison here.

Posted by: wealwaysfakeit | August 28, 2007 01:40 PM

Putting all these dogs to death immediately is not the answer. Why are you against having them evaluated by trained animal behaviorists? There are puppies that may very well be able to be rehabilitated. If an organization with the resources and the will steps up to assist, why would anyone be against giving these poor creatures a chance to live healthy, happy lives? It makes no sense to me to just automatically say "Kill them." That should never be the first answer.

Posted by: Lora | August 28, 2007 02:13 PM

It is always so easy for human beings to decide the life or death fate of other living creatures; Especially since they can't speak for themselves. I feel there is always a solution other than death except for in cases of the most extreme suffering. Killing these dogs is the easy way out. Do I have all of the answers? No, I do not. But that does not mean they don't exist. I am not a genius. Maybe we just haven't thought about it hard enough. I think Peta has brought so much to the animal rights movement that is extraordinarily important; but their policies on frequent euthanizia is where I draw the line in my support. No kill is a viable option if we are willing to fight hard enough to make it happen. Even with horribly abused and victimized fighting dogs.

Posted by: Lori | August 28, 2007 02:54 PM

A truly eloquent and heart-rending epilogue to these precious, pitiful creatures that have been so mistreated, misused and betrayed by good ole' mankind!

Please animal lovers--understand that there is no other solution or future for these dogs other than to be humanely euthanized. It breaks my heart, too. But if you REALLY care about animals, go rescue a highly adoptable dog or cat from the pound in their honor and memory. If they could speak, that's what they'd ask you to do for them.

May their tortured souls rest in peace and may all who glorify, engage in, and defend this barbaric, heinous bloodsport, end up in the hottest room in HELL--FOREVER!

Posted by: S. L. Trout | August 28, 2007 03:16 PM

The "no kill" nuts that want these dogs are the SAME nuts who dumped their Katrina rescue pit bulls with horrific hoarders and worse after they decided they couldn't "keep" aggressive dogs at their sanctuaries.

They are hypocrites! and they just want attention and donations

Posted by: kelly | August 28, 2007 03:36 PM

It is a terrible thing that these Vick dogs have no furture, due to his and his associates lack of human compassion. They cannot be socialized due to their extensive training to be aggressive fighters. I am an animal lover, but the only kind thing for these animals is to be put to sleep, and Michael Vick and his associates should be held accountable for their unfortunate fate. After reading his indictment, there are many more involved in this awful world of dog fighting that need to be brought to justice. Dog fighting should be a felony charge in every state in this country and the punishment should be severe! A comment to the man who compared dog fighting to hunting, when we have people who go out in a fenced in area where the animal has no chance of survival and tear animals apart with their bare hands or teeth, I'm sure the american public will put a stop to it. Animal abuse on any level is unacceptable behavior

Posted by: Wendy | August 28, 2007 03:40 PM

This is a very sensitive issue concerning these dogs. I think the ASPCA and Best Friends want to evaluate these dogs. I say, let them. Even if one can be saved, so be it.
I do not agree with PETA's stance in banning pitbulls nor with their position against no-kill shelters. I may be a member of PETA but that doesn't mean I agree with every position the group takes. I do applaud the many good things that PETA does do for all animals and the changes brought about by their actions. Because of this I continue to be a member and support PETA.
But Jack, you did eloquently state how difficult and painful all of this has been for these dogs. How sad!

To all PETA members and animal activists: please ignore the comment made by "jones". How many times must we write the same message to answer the same old rhetoric ad nauseum? Let's focus with what is at hand and with what is really important---helping animals and spreading veganism!

Posted by: Ana | August 28, 2007 03:40 PM

Jack, I think you said it best when you said that we must not think about what makes us feel good, instead think carefully about these dogs. Very very well said.

And by the way... ALLAHGEHOVAH JONES.... I have no words for your stereotyping... I'm sure you're a doll in person (regardless of how much of an idiot you look like in print).

Posted by: Jaclyn | August 28, 2007 04:00 PM

There's a big difference between hunting and creating a sport of ripping dogs apart. When you hunt, it is very possible and not that hard to kill an animal humanely. Not only is hunting more natural than buying meat in the store, it is better for the animals. The animals you hunt get to live in their natural environment, unlike animals in factory farms. I'm happy that hunters get their meat from hunting instead of from cruel factory farms. Hunting is not only natural, it is a better way of getting meat than buying it from the store - it is better for the animals.

Vick's cruel actions with regard to the dogs are unforgivable, and I think it is good that the NFL took decisive action against him, and I hope the judge/jury whatever don't go soft on these charges. He violated the law, and I hope he spends plenty of time behind bars for it.

Posted by: Jason | August 28, 2007 04:03 PM

those poor innocent dogs will finally be at peace in the arms of Divine Justice. the arms of Divine Love.
their souls will be with the souls of the poor innocent kittens, puppies, and other poor innocent animals killed in the training for viciousness, all living together in eternal blissful peace.

Posted by: observer | August 28, 2007 04:21 PM

I completely agree with you. It's just such a difficult situation. Makes me so sad... Those poor babies.

Posted by: Kristen | August 28, 2007 04:35 PM

I am very disappointed in PETA for wanting the dogs killed because they might hurt someone. Looks like you would want Vick to pay to keep them somewhere safe for the rest of their natural life instead of asking for them to die.

Posted by: B.G | August 28, 2007 04:49 PM

allahgehovah jones - Are you an idiot? PETA is very much aganst hunting and any animals use for entertainment. They say it all the time. There are people who have been following the circus for over 3 months just telling people the horrors is animals used for entertainment. Look at Jack's blog titled "ON THE ROAD WITH THE CIRCUS"
Make a name for ourselves? PETA has been around for over 25 years and has over 1.2 million menbers, what are talking about????
Oh and no one gave a damn? how about all the minds PETA has changed; Coke, pepsi, McDonalds, wendys and burger king just to name a few
PETA did speak out against the vice president, after Cheney shot his friend PETA was all over it. Also they have a campain against the Bitish government to stop using bear fur.

I think you should learn some facts before you make more of an ass out of yourself

Posted by: Max | August 28, 2007 05:08 PM

allangehovoa or whatever the hell your name is, and VICKFAN:

are you for real? if you knew any better or would do a little research you would understand that PETA and many other animal organizations are at work and have been, and that most of issues you make mention of are in fact covered.

dogfighting is an insidious scourge on humanity which in light of recent events has been brought to the forefront because of a wellknown, highly paid athlete's involvement thus the outrage and deservedly so on many levels. THE EXTENT AND AUDACITY OF mVick's CRUEL ACTIONS IS WHAT THE OUTRAGE IS ALL ABOUT!
stir up some braincell activity and face the real facts of the matter!

The fact that YOU are sick of something means NOTHING since you can't see anyhing but your mindless point of view and not the truth about mVick's sickening, vile behavior and self-serving incessant lies. mVick does't need morons like you to support him, he needs prayer. so pray, baby, pray, and stop making a fool of yourself!

Posted by: 007 | August 28, 2007 05:15 PM

I am so sick of you so called animal rights activists or whatever the hell you call yourselves. My father kills animals every winter by putting bullets in their asses as a hunter.You know this is flat out a messed up situation, i do admit that much...The dogfighting was a terrible site to see but when I sit here and think about all the other things wrong with America this situation doesn't even scratch the surface. I think about my sister who was murdered and the killers were never found, and i think about how Mark McGuire had no where near as much publicity and negativity as Barry Bonds does for steroid usage (hell McGuire even has a street named after him), and I think about Chris Benoit who killed his whole family, and I think about the nba ref who ruined games to gamble, and how Bush is corrupting our nation and sending our youth to die. Then here Vick is...a man who has never been in trouble but yet he loses his whole entire life over dogfighting...Maybe im so empathetic b/c I am a huge Vick fan but it is so easy to stand by ones side thru all of their successes; i am a fan that will stick by Vick's side for better or for worse. Yes he messed up, but I believe with out a shadow of a doubt that this man has great intentions of becoming better...everyone deserves a second chance...Hell America is the home of second chances...so I love you Vick and I will always be your biggest fan!!!

Posted by: BG | August 28, 2007 05:15 PM

You know this is flat out a messed up situation, i do admit that much...The dogfighting was a terrible site to see but when I sit here and think about all the other things wrong with America this situation doesn't even scratch the surface. I think about my sister who was murdered and the killers were never found, and i think about how Mark McGuire had no where near as much publicity and negativity as Barry Bonds does for steroid usage (hell McGuire even has a street named after him), and I think about Chris Benoit who killed his whole family, and I think about the nba ref who ruined games to gamble, and how Bush is corrupting our nation and sending our youth to die. Then here Vick is...a man who has never been in trouble but yet he loses his whole entire life over dogfighting...Maybe im so empathetic b/c I am a huge Vick fan but it is so easy to stand by ones side thru all of their successes; i am a fan that will stick by Vick's side for better or for worse. Yes he messed up, but I believe with out a shadow of a doubt that this man has great intentions of becoming better...everyone deserves a second chance...Hell America is the home of second chances...so I love you Vick and I will always be your biggest fan!!!

Posted by: BG | August 28, 2007 05:17 PM

I agree.. People Deer hunt every year, cut the Deer's head off and hang it on their wall. Vick was wrong he apologized so let it go. I feel some of you people love animals more than humans.

Posted by: Derek Williams | August 28, 2007 05:25 PM

Micheal Vick is a Pig!!! I don't believe he is sorry for his actions. He is sorry that he was caught and will now lose his millions. He has no remorse for what he did to those animals or the price the remaining dogs will now pay due to his actions. Addicts kill and steal and we try to rehabilitate them. Why not try the same for these poor animals, that only GOD knows what they have already endured.

Posted by: Connie Paige | August 28, 2007 05:58 PM

When I break the law, it's all about my taking the wrong road, picking the wrong friends, making bad decisions...etc,etc,etc......
When an african american breaks the law,(or in
Vick's case,becomes a murdering monster) it's all about RACE....will I see an end to this in my lifetime?

Posted by: jane | August 28, 2007 06:59 PM

When I break the law, it's all about my taking the wrong road, picking the wrong friends, making bad decisions...etc,etc,etc......
When an african american breaks the law, (or in
Vick's case,becomes a murdering monster) it's all about RACE....will I see an end to this in my lifetime?

Posted by: jane | August 28, 2007 07:00 PM

I think it was a very sad thing what happend to those dogs, they didn't deserve it nor did they ask for it. Although I don't agree with the way Mr. Jones put his opinon I do agree partly with him. How can we look down on Mr. Vick and also promote the hunting of also innocent animals. But I do think the way it was done was the worst thing, when a animal is hunted it is shot and soon after dies it is not put through however many minuettes of torture fighting for its life with another animal. Or also the bait that they use to "rile" the dogs up, that strain there is enough to scare the poor animal alone. I think Mr. Vick should be punished for what he has done and punished severly. Not because the dogs died but because of the torture that they were put through before they died. We have a law forbadding cruel and unusual punnsishment towards people why should that be any diffrent towards amimals.

Posted by: ashley | August 28, 2007 07:52 PM

"but what about these white men that hunt and guess what, they are not eating what they kill or horse racing, the way they beat the hell out of the horse to entertain people"

You obviously don't know what PETA does. They have always fought those abuses to animals. Also hunting defenseless animals has nothing to do with someone's colour.

Damn it people, stop bringing race into this.

YES we do care about humans too.
YES we do care about animals being harmed in all other situations you can come up with.
NO PETA is not racist (neither am I) nor does racism or stereotypes help prove your point.

"Tell you what if you attack the president or vice president or congress for hunting i will believe you people care as of right now i think you are a joke that needed someone famous for people to know and care who you are"

**Okay you purposely keep closing your eyes are pretend we don't protest hunting to try and make us look like hypocrites. Moron..

Just goes to show you can't come up with any actual good reasons to criticize us you have to make up stuff.

Posted by: Mel Mel | August 28, 2007 09:13 PM

I think it is sad these dogs must be put down, but they should also be recycled. The dogs should be fed to prisoners like Vick.

Posted by: Carl | August 28, 2007 09:33 PM

If given the chance, I would gladly take in all his dogs. Mike you should be ashamed of wasting such prized dogs. My family is mortified that you could do such a thing. In my homelands there are people that will gladly take them all especially those with Black fur.

Posted by: Manong | August 28, 2007 09:45 PM

To allahgehovah jones, PETA has ALREADY criticized US government officials for hunting. You should be able to find articles on this issue on PETA's website.

Also, you can go to http://www.cafepress.com/petastore/1208874 to check out all of the "Don't Be a Dick: Ban Hunting" merchandise (regarding Dick Cheney's little hunting mishap last year). I have the large mug at work, and it sure is a conversation starter!

Posted by: Michele | August 28, 2007 10:18 PM

Its so sad that these animals have known nothing but torment for their entire lives. What is even sadder is people like allahgehovah jones thinks that this is the first thing that PETA has stood up for. I truely believe that Vick should be thrown in jail and lose the key... or better yet, put him to sleep with all the dogs... its what he deserves!

Posted by: Alexis | August 28, 2007 11:10 PM

This is just sickening how Vick let his prosperity do so much terrible negativity, I thinks Vick and all his partners should be treated the same way they treated these poor unsuspecting dogs, an eye for an eye...They should all be sentanced in the strictest manner, as this is nothing less than pre-meditated murder in the first degree... This is truley disgusting and they need to be punished harshly...

Posted by: Debi | August 29, 2007 12:49 AM

so, killing animals (to prevent cruelty) is okay? should we kill all the the livestock to prevent them from suffering in processing plants? PETA needs to stand by a policy of not killing animals, if you ask me.

Posted by: Ray | August 29, 2007 01:27 AM

forgive me but is that not against what we stand for?these dogs are agessive to other dogs not people.can't they be tested for temperment like other dogs are? i'm sure not all of them could be put down. i'm also sure that there are people out there that have the right enviornment for these dogs. after what they have been through shouldn't we at least try to give them a chance?

Posted by: lala007 | August 29, 2007 01:51 AM

Not to diminsish what Mike Vick did, but anybody who is calling for a MANS life over dogfighting is just as sick as Mike Vick himself. Dogfighting is almost as old as humanity itself, it may be grusome and wrong but it is a issue that has been around. Instead of just protesting outside of the court house why dont you PETA people actually do something. By acting like fools in public you are diminishing your cause. Nobody is going to take a bunch of angry protesters seriously. Your approach has been unproductive so far, while you protest Mike Vick another dog figth is happening in your city, he is not the problem, he has been caught, his dogfighting days are over,now why dont you go stop someone else from making the same mistakes he did

Posted by: Matt | August 29, 2007 09:30 AM

Personaly I think what Vick and Friends did to these dogs is atrocious. I think that they should be punished to the extreme. I was raised by generations of hunters so I am not some non hunting fruit. I believe that you should take care of your pets, eat or at least give to someone who will eat what you kill. As far as these dogs are concerned I think the smart and safe thing to do for these dogs is to put them down. Otherwise they stand the chance of being put back in the fighting ring, hurting another animal or God forbid hurting a HUMAN. I think that ALOT of people forget these are ANIMALS. Let's think back a few years and remember the HUMANS that have been attacked by HUMANS and yet there has not been this much fuss over those incidences. To sum this up--- Punish all involved for animal cruelty, Put the dogs down and Fight for HUMAN ABUSE. Try not to put animals above humans.

Posted by: Les | August 29, 2007 09:55 AM

I cannot believe some people are turning this into a race issue. Newsflash for you people who are doing that, people of ALL races are disgusted by Michael Vick and his treatment of these animals!

Posted by: sherri | August 29, 2007 10:31 AM

To all of you who think the Vick dogs should be rehabilitated, live at sanctuaries in solitary confinement, have their teeth cut out(?!), etc: This isn't about YOU or what helps you sleep at night. This is about doing what's best for the animals.

Posted by: Amanda | August 29, 2007 11:06 AM

Apparenlty killing these dogs has been PETA's stand all along. Perhaps putting some of them down because of the behavioral issues is the right thing to do but I am positive that not all the dogs are mean and vicious. Remember what Vick did to the underachievers? PETA wants nothing more than to destroy every American Pitbull Terrier and those related to the breed. PETA has already been the Judge and Jury against these dogs and refuses to give them the help they need and quite honestly deserve. I know that some of these animals can be saved. I have several friends who have saved pitbulls from people like Michael Vick and have had life long happy relationships with them. Lets not be quick to judge a breed because of an irresponsible owner like Michael Vick. If PETA is supposed to stand up for the inhumane treatment of animals then why do they believe all pitbulls should be destroyed? I guess it's easier to turn our back on the situation then learn the facts about the animals and ways to save them. Good Job PETA.

Posted by: Jennifer | August 29, 2007 11:46 AM

IT'S A SHAME THAT EVERYONE AT PETA IS SO EVIL. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD BE UPSET ABOUT DOG FIGHTING BUT WHY AREN'T YOU UPSET ABOUT THE ELEPHANTS, TIGERS, ALLIGATORS AND OTHER ANIMALS THAT ARE BEING KILLED FOR PROPHET AREN'T THEY ALSO GOD'S CREATURES. THE REASON YOU'RE NOT IS BECAUSE YOU DONT GIVE A DAM. M. VICK WAS THE PERFECT PREY FOR YA'LL JACKASSES TO SHINE. BUT YOU BEST REMEMBER THAT YOU ALL WILL PAY FOR YOUR EVIL THOUGHTS. GOD SAID IN HIS WORDS, THAT IF YOU CAN'T FORGIVE YOUR FELLOW MAN THEN HE SURELY WONT FORGIVE YOU. THAT'S IN EVERYTHING NOT JUST FORGIVING YOUR HUSBAND WHEN HE CHEATS ON YOU. I KNOW THAT THE ANTI'CHRIST IS ON THE SEEN AND TRUELY YOU PEOPLE HAVE PROVED THAT TO THE FULLEST EXTINCT. BUT THERE IS A GOD OF THE HEBREW ISRAELITES WHO ARE THE CHOSEN, US THE BLACKS LIKE MICHAEL VICK WILL PREVAIL. HE WILL COME BACK MORE POWERFUL THAN EVER BEFORE THANKS TO PETA. YOU THINK YOU BROUGHT HIM DOWN BUT YOU ONLY LIFTED HIM UP HIGHER BECAUSE NOW HE KNOWS YAH AND THATS WHERE ALL HIS POWER WILL COME FROM. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK TO PETA FOR HELPING MIKE GET CLOSER TO GOD SO THAT HE CAN BE SAVED.
P.S. WHY AREN'T YOU FIGHTING FOR THE DOGS WHEN YOUR HUSBANDS ARE HAVING SEX WITH THEM.

Posted by: PETA-PAN | August 29, 2007 11:55 AM

These dogs were puppies once,
innocent, sweet and thinking
of nothing but being treated kindly. A horrible person like Michael and his group took away their chances of knowing kindness. We as compassionate people need to give them all a chance to see what the world is really like and we can redeem all the hardships they have incurred. Every action should be taken to help these
dogs.

Posted by: Rebecca | August 29, 2007 12:23 PM

I think that the self righteous allahgehovah jones should not be permitted to leave his uneducated comments, especially when he plays the race card and stereotypes to his defense. white men are not the only ones who hunt. what kind of moronic statement is that. and i gaurantee that even though i am against both, they are more hunters eating the meat the there are michael vicks friends eating the dogs. if you want to say stupid statements will get you stupid responses.

Posted by: natasha | August 29, 2007 12:49 PM

those making this a race issue are doing so because they have nothing else to their defense. it has nothing to do with black people you self centered idiot. the only reason we are getting upset about the abused dogs is because dogs are the only animal invpolved in this case brainiac. i dont have anything against black people, but i do have a problem with those who feel we owe them something and let things slide because of the past and you are making your case. and thank you for pointing out the "making money legally" note, because obviously you would not have felt the need to point out what was being done differently than what statistics show. thank you for you educated input "black queen" who has judgement had no basis and had nothing to do with animals and must have been on the wrong website.

Posted by: natasha | August 29, 2007 01:04 PM

In a case where a dog has been subjected to violence its whole life unfortunately it is too dangerous to depend on the behavior these animals will display in a normal loving lifestyle. The last thing pitbulls that are not violent need is more bad press from dog attacks!! I am afraid that by placing these dogs back into society that will be the outcome. I am deeply sadden that thanks to Vick, Taylor, and Peace these dogs now have a BAD rap, and now have to pay the higher price. I am also concerned that by placing these "fighting dogs" back out into society they may fall right back into the wrong hands, and again be subjected to hell on earth. Sometimes life is just far worse than death. I also think that it is sad that people call for the rehabilitation of Michael Vick, but these dogs do not have that option.

People who are so quick to pull this race card are doing nothing but hurting their cause, and making the African American community look bad. It seems that people would rather see Vick set free, because he is black and being treated unfairly...but that in itself would be considered "special treatment" and therefore would be a form of racism. If Michael Vick were White the whole race card thing would never exist so to me that is racism. Racism is also alive and well in the animal community the BSL is a form of racism as well..so if you really are concerned about racism look at the many aspects of it not just black and white! Animal advocates do not care about the abusers race, status, or income they care about cruelty to animals. When you have compassion for animals 95% of the time you are also compassionate about people. As for the comments made above about hunting, or bullfighting the vast majority of us are against that as well, and PETA has spoken out many times against both. Animal abuse equals ignorance and ignorance is found in all races. Just for the record I do not attend the circus or rodeos..I am a vegetarian therefore I do not eat meat. I have almost crossed over into becoming a vegan. I do not wear wool or leather..In a nut shell I care about animals!!

**Just a side note some of you may be aware of already I found this:
Online retailer Amazon is now in the lonely position of promoting animal fighting activities. It's the only online retailer of subscriptions to animal fighting magazines in the United States, and these magazines advertise the sale of fighting animals and cockfighting weapons -- sales made illegal by federal law! The Feathered Warrior even advertised fighting dogs from a dogfighter whose operation makes the enterprise described in the Michael Vick indictment look like a bunch of amateurs........................Shame on Amazon.com they should have more respect than this!!!!!

Posted by: Dana | August 29, 2007 01:21 PM

The Vick dogs unfortunately have been trained to kill. Attempting to re-introduce these dogs into mainstream society puts at risk any future animals or humans they may come into contact with. I support PETA. I feel that their limited resources would be better spent on the Big Picture: society's attitudes toward animals and educating people on the importance of treating them humanely with dignity and respect as fellow beings on Planet Earth.

Posted by: Linda Powell | August 29, 2007 01:57 PM

THIS IS ABOUT INNOCENT ANIMALS WHO CAN'T SAY: 'STOP! YOU'RE HURTING ME!' OR 'WHAT DID I DO THAT WAS SO WRONG AND BAD YOU HATE ME SO MUCH?!!?. IT IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT ABOUT "THINGS"!! BUT SINCE YOU INSIST: VICK IS NOTHING. HE IS A 'THING'. THAT'S RIGHT, GO CRY "RACIST! RACIST! SOMEONE CALLED A BLACK A THING!!" I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU. I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE WHITE AS PAPER, BLACK AS COAL, OR PURPLE WITH PINK POLKA DOTS!! ANYONE WHO CAN HARM THE INNOCENTS IN THIS WORLD IS A HEARTLESS, SOULLESS, LOVELESS, EVIL, MERCILESS, GREEDY, SELFISH, IRRESPONSIBLE, IRRATIONAL, ABURD, RIDICULOUS, REPREHENSIBLE, IGNORANT, DEPRAVED, BLOODTHIRSTY, SANGUINARY, INFERNAL,
"THING" CONCERNED ONLY WITH ITSELF AND ITS MISSION TO PLEASE ITS MASTER!! IT WILL LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, TORTURE AND MURDER FOR ITS MASTER!! ONE DAY IT WILL STAND BEFORE GOD, AND BEING UNCLEAN AND UNHOLY, IT WILL BE CAST DOWN... TO ITS MASTER AWAITING IT!!! THESE POOR, HELPLESS DOGS AND OTHER ANIMALS USED IN FIGHTING; OH LORD HOW THEY SUFFER SUCH NEEDLESS TERRIBLE FEAR, AGONIZING PAIN, AND FOR WHAT? ANIMAL NEGLECT / ABUSE / TORTURE / MURDER NOT ONLY BREAKS MY HEART BUT CRACKS MY VERY SOUL. I PRAY SOON THEY ALL FIND COMFORT, LOVE AND JOY IN THE CARE AND "PROTECTION" OF GODS PRESENCE.

Posted by: JuneMarie | August 29, 2007 02:38 PM

Natasha,

I agree, in my homelands, we do eat Dog. It is a delicatessen, and only the revered dogs would have the honor. Given the chance we would gladly take those castoffs from Vick's lot. Why waste good meat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat
Everyone should come to the PI and see.

Posted by: Manong | August 29, 2007 02:46 PM

Vick Fan

Nothing you wrote makes sense. Black Queen you have been dethroned because of your hateful and nonsensical comment. Get an education and I DO care about animals.

Peta Pan

PETA and all animal advocates are all upset about the abuse and slaughter of all animals. If you have the ability to read take a look throughout the PETA website and get educated. Your ranting about God and demons was very entertaining but I think you should be writing your illiterate synopsis about damnation and culpability on the blog of the KKK.

Matt

PETA does not have the legal authority to stop dog fights; cops and FBI have to step in. Guess what, dog fighting is illegal in the USA because it is so barbaric; it was outlawed in the UK centuries ago because it is so violent. Now you look foolish.

Please animal advocates, do not explain your love for animals and why you advocate for them to animal haters. Also, these racists don't care nor do they make excuses for hating those that are not black. These are embeciles that don't do anything to help people but have the time to insult and damn to hell all decent animal-loving advocates. Vick and all dog fighters should be sent to prison for a long time!

Posted by: Ana | August 29, 2007 03:05 PM

Manong:
of which kind of savage cavepeople homeland are you talking about?

Posted by: Milarepa | August 29, 2007 03:45 PM

peta pan
you seriously seem to be possessed by evil!!!

les
'cuz of stupid people like you, lying vick, the maniac vick supporters and animal haters is exactly why animals deserve to be treated higher than humans!!!

junemarie, natasha, dana

good thing the animals have sane people like you on their side!!! can you imagine how this much worse this world would be if everyone thought like these vick maniacs and animal haters????

Posted by: observser | August 29, 2007 04:38 PM

Manong,
Eat me you piece of shit. come to my house for dinner, I will feed you to my dogs. Then they can make you what you are in the yard.

Posted by: kim | August 29, 2007 04:38 PM

Jennifer, how DARE you say that you know anything at all about these dogs!

That is the problem- naive silly people who think they "know" how to handle aggressive dogs.

These same naive people don't give a DAMN when those aggressive dogs kill other pets or kids.

And it was BEST FRIENDS who dumped aggressive pit bulls after Katrina because they couldn't handle them.

Now they want them?

They are hypocrites of the WORST kind, and some of their "followers" have been placing aggressive dogs.

Best Friends is not no-kill. They turn animals away from their sanctuary every day that then get abandoned to horrific deaths.

Best Friends is just manipulating the minds of the naive and foolish for donations.

Posted by: kelly | August 29, 2007 05:12 PM

Manong -
Cannibals eat people, what a shame you could not be on their menu. It would be a pleasure to see you skinned beaten and burned alive. May you burn in hell you worthless bastard.

Posted by: Cyndi | August 29, 2007 05:42 PM

Peta are hypocrites. Yes, give me more of your speech about poor dogs. You don't give a shit about these pit bulls, just as you don't care about any pit bulls and it is why you continue to initiate and support breed specific legislations. I used to support Peta, but now I know the truth of all that you represent! You will never get another donation from me - a devoted and responsible pit bull owner!

Posted by: Faith | August 29, 2007 06:58 PM

Reading some of the comments on this website are just as disturbing as the crime Vick committed. If you are not an animal lover...why bother be on here? If you are an animal lover...why challenge the professional opinion of others & place other animals in danger by not agreeing that these poor tortured souls cannot be trusted. Would you want thwm in your house with your dog or cat that you have loved since the moment you laid eyes on them? They need to be humanely put down....and the fight needs to continue to uncover more fighting rings such as this... Not sit here & rip each other apart on a message board. We who love animals....let's not lose sight of the fight to protect them. Be there voice...unfortunately....theydon't have one of their own.

Posted by: meoow | August 29, 2007 07:23 PM

Reading some of the comments on this website are just as disturbing as the crime Vick committed. If you are not an animal lover...why bother be on here? If you are an animal lover...why challenge the professional opinion of others & place other animals in danger by not agreeing that these poor tortured souls cannot be trusted. Would you want thwm in your house with your dog or cat that you have loved since the moment you laid eyes on them? They need to be humanely put down....and the fight needs to continue to uncover more fighting rings such as this... Not sit here & rip each other apart on a message board. We who love animals....let's not lose sight of the fight to protect them. Be there voice...unfortunately....theydon't have one of their own.

Posted by: meoow | August 29, 2007 07:24 PM

i dont see why vick must be so heartless,...animals are here to live with peace..='[ not to be abused and tested on..i say they should give vick the death penalty >=[

Posted by: jessica | August 29, 2007 07:32 PM

If you lived a block away from a guy who raises and fights pit bulls, like I do. You would know Vicks dogs have to be put to sleep Our great grandchildren cannot even play outdoors when they visit. When we take out the garbage. They assume attack posture on the end of their chains. He hides them in the woods behind his house, so no one ever see's them. We cannot even take walks in the morning anymore. The neighbors say that the law goes to the dog fights. So there is nothing we can do.

Posted by: Betty Hampton | August 29, 2007 08:05 PM

Hey Jack,

This was beautifully written and nicely said.

I think we can't really expect the media and PETA to make SUCH a huge, garganutan 24/7 deal of this case and expect the public to just "brush it off".

It's human nature to become emotionally involved with news stories that get this much attention. So if PETA wants people to focus on other animals, they should not have put so much emphasis on this one case.

On the other hand, I do think some attention on this issue was important, and it just goes to show how much passion you can stir up in the public with this kind of story.

Maybe feature certain shetlers or shelter animals in the future, with a celeb or something, to help them get animals adopted? Just a thought.

This post was an excellent start. Peace, Jack!

Posted by: Maya | August 29, 2007 08:10 PM

You know, it never ceases to amaze me that people concentrate on the less important issue. You people sit here and bash Michael Vick over something you don't even have proof of (because his "confessions" was only so he'd get a lighter sentence), yet you don't use the funds you get and get off your butt to actually go save the animals at the animal shelters that will be euthanized. I'm not criticizing you for having a cause, but I am criticizing you for being so adamant to save animals that survived BEFORE humans were on the earth, BEFORE animals were domesticated and will continue to survive after we're long gone. I'm not advocating animal abuse because I have a cat myself, but if you're so adamant about standing up for something right, how about standing up for the homeless and abused CHILDREN that CAN'T defend and/or take care of themselves? There's nothing wrong with having a cause, but there is something wrong with putting an animal before a human, displaying obvious messed up priorities. Ray Lewis was involved with and more than likely guilty in the MURDER of a HUMAN, "Pacman" Jones mistreats a HUMAN, and all you people can do is point and shake your finger at allegations of Michael Vick killing "poor, helpless" dogs that you can't even prove? Ha. Comical. Welcome to American society.

Posted by: Mia McLeod | August 29, 2007 08:45 PM

hundreds of pitbulls are put to sleep each day. Many shelters put them down simply because of their breed, and face a very difficult time being adopted. Their are great organizations such as badrap.org that try to rescue, train, and place pitbulls from shelters. Its a sad fact to face, but those dogs are probably going to be put down so everyone should try to move on. Look to the next victory without dwelling on the defeat.

Posted by: tspoon | August 29, 2007 08:48 PM

I have stopped eating meat over a month ago with the the michael Vick issues being brough to light. I was raised in a less then perfect situation and my animals were my friends. Mice, Dogs, Cats and anything else that would listen. Peta has helped inform me of the horrible things that are done to all animals for entertainment, research and sick pleasure. I heard Vick stand and say how he was sorry and I couldn't help but wonder if he was just sorry for getting caught. A dog is not Just a dog but a creature that feels pain. This goes for circus elephants, monkeys, and television animals. I cant get passed the abuse of the animal to even acknowledge the dogfighting itself. If there is anything good that is going to come out of this is that somewhere there will be dogs and perhaps other animals saved. I will continue to do my part across the board.

Posted by: lmocombe | August 29, 2007 09:11 PM

Manong you are one hateful person. You do not have a heart or any compassion for dogs and I am sure cats, too. Since, in your HOMELAND they eat dogs and cats. There are other things to eat in life besides dogs and cats. But, in your country it seems no one has been educated. For your information, I have seen on videos how they beat these poor dogs and throw them into a pot of HOT water. Do you think that is normal in life?? I think you guys are psycho. Also, PETA is getting involved in this issue on the abuse of these dogs and cats. It is pretty digusting if you ask me. As for Mike Vick's pitbulls, they should give these dog a chance. With all the $$ he has they could hire and built a place for these dogs to try to enjoy the rest of their lives. Hopefully, they would be able to turn around, if not, then I guess we have no other choice. I am a vet, technician and it is sad to see animals enthansized.Every animal deserves a fair chance.Also, PETA is against killing pitbulls, I really don't know who started the rumor (that PETA wants to kill them all)

Posted by: Olga | August 29, 2007 09:52 PM

This whole article is trying to justify euthanizing these animals and nothing more. Saying they will not be adoptable, or have good lives is unknown at this point. Not all pit fighting dogs in the past have been euthanized, I'm sure this is not a fact PETA is unaware of. These dogs would most likely do well, in a one dog home with a loving family. Have them evaluated, but don't fight the fight just to wash your hands of them.

Posted by: SB | August 29, 2007 10:04 PM

What is being forgotten is that these dogs are very loyal to their owner. They fight on COMMAND and stop on command. Yes I have a Pit Bull she is 8 years old and life for her as a puppy was as a bait dog for the dog fights. She was never a fighter but was used to teach the other dogs to fight. She suffered terribly but she is the sweetest dog I have ever had and lives in my house with 2 other dogs and 6 parrots. She has NEVER once growled at me or snapped at me. I say at least try with Vicks dogs and see what can be done.

Posted by: Pittie Lover | August 29, 2007 10:07 PM

Mike Vick is a piece of shit, and doesn't deserve to walk free for many many years.

Posted by: Scott (Yea i know) | August 29, 2007 10:55 PM

Bitch please shut up and go back to your cave, after all thats where you belong Manong. And you too, allahgehovah jones, brandon gayman what are you two ignorant guys doing on this website? you guys must be lost or bored out of your ass, get a life you 2!

Posted by: silvia | August 29, 2007 11:29 PM

Vick should have to care for, feed (under adult supervision at his expense of course), clean, exercise and scoop after each and every dog that was found on his property. In addition, he should spend the time that he is not caring for these dogs going to various animal shelters and scooping, feeding, and cleaning the cages and animals. Why should the dogs suffer more, he is responsible, he should care for them financially and physically for the rest of their lives! Every animal is capable of loving, once they trust that they are loved! So some are mean, they have suffered because of Vick's hands, let them find peace and let Vick suffer everyday scooping and cleaning away! Happy poopy scooping Vicky, scrub away! You are inhumane, pathetic and a disgrace to the NFL and all humans on this planet!

Posted by: laura watson | August 30, 2007 12:04 AM

Pitbulls trained for fighting cannot be rehabilitated or safely adopted out. For them to be kept in shelters is unfortunately an unreality as the reality is there are thousands and thousands of dogs in over-burdened shelters. Those who say the dogs should be given a chance to live, are they willing to adopt one and keep it at their house, with their kids, their other pets, or would they just lock it away in a cage for it's whole life? These are just Vick's dogs. There are fighting pitbulls rescued all over the nation. Who is willing to take these dogs to their home when the shelters become too crowded? I respect Peta's solutions in educating people about animal abuse and fighting.

Posted by: Tracy | August 30, 2007 12:41 AM

MANONG:
the word you mean is delicacy, moron!

so what's YOUR point, moron, other than bragging on your UNcivilized homeland eating dogs, moron?!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 12:59 AM

peta-pan, and to all others it may concern:

(btw what a grueling read... DO us all a favor and learn how to write and spell!)

for your information... God only honors faith and obedience and generally moves in accordance to the power that worketh IN us so don't count on any favoritism over others unless you and/or mVick are walking as one perfect...
a real stretch at this point.

YOUR god the devil must be proud of your outrageous, indecent references, and angry, racist, judgmental threats, because MY God is NOT!

It's obvious you have no real knowledge of the word or God himself, therefore your holier than thou stance and use of biblical references is of none effect!
For God's sake and your own good, stop using God at all to give credence to an ignorant ungodly rant!

mVick needs the Lord and IF he truly received salvation, great!
maybe then he will see the error and evil of his ways, and those of his supporters and companions and avoid them at all costs.

Posted by: 007 | August 30, 2007 02:58 AM

why are the dogs considered dangerous?trained to fight? that is like saying a bloodhound was trained to hunt that is what the dogs do fighting other dogs is not something you train them to do you let them do it I do not condone dog fighting but I know the dogs you do not have to train them you just let them see another dog. but that does not mean they are dangerous to people. I have found pits to be one of the most loving pets there is.they are generally clowns I love the dogs but I know they will eat other animals (not just dogs) they can be a problem at times but that does not mean if you have a yard with a fence and do not have any other dogs near them they can not be great family pets and yes even if they fought another dog. I wish people would not have such a knee jerk reaction to this and unless you have spent time around pit bulls don't judge them so harshly they fight that is what they were bred for not to bite people.Don't believe me? read up on it they were not bred to be people biters

Posted by: dave | August 30, 2007 03:01 AM

Let's give these dogs a chance. Ever hear of the Dog Whisperer? Cesar Milan is known for his abilities to rehabilate any dogs.. Especially pit bulls. Please PETA.. Try giving Cesar a call first.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 03:24 AM

VICKFAN: re "we black people gotta stick together...?!!" ROFLOL!!!!!!

READ AND WEEP: SANE, SELF/RESPECTING BLACK PEOPLE WITH ANY INTELLIGENCE AND SHRED OF DECENCY DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM "RACIST" TROLLS, SO DON'T COUNT ON TOO MANY NEW FRIENDS.

Posted by: 007 | August 30, 2007 03:33 AM

I agree those Pit Bulls found on Vick the Sick's property should be put down, for they are " time bombs ".
Here are two facts for u :
A few yrs ago, while watching my children play Soccer, i noticed a little girl about 4 or 5 with many bruises ( black and blue) on her face, i ask her older brother what happened, and he told me his little sister was " ATTACKED " by their neighbor's PIT BULL right outside their front lawn for no reason.
Remember, this Pit Bull is not even a trained fighting dog, it was just a house pet.
So, if a house pet Pit Bull can randomly attack a little girl for no reason, u can imgaine anything bad happen. The one who release and keep those dogs can be in a big lawsuit.
Good Luck to anyone who Claim they can REHABE those dogs :)
Another Pit Bull i heard, attack and killed the family's Cocker Spanel who was his play mate for a piece milkbone right in the kitchen in front of the owner.
VICK'S dogs never had a chance in life, it is very sad, i hope this kind of crime do not exist in the near future.
MICHAEL VICK, i hope u rot in hell.

Posted by: ann | August 30, 2007 03:40 AM

hey marie oneal i think you should stop breeding yourself.

Posted by: peta hater | August 30, 2007 04:19 AM

These animals deserve a chance to have a life, if someone is willing to take care of them properly then they should be able to. PETA, I think you do a lot of good things but there are quite a few that make me really not like you and make fighting for animal rights/welfare look bad. I will do what I can to help save these dogs, they have the same right to live as any other dog or animal and should be given a chance. And it makes me sick that some people are using the race card, if it were a white football player of the same status as Vick I believe the same media coverage and anger from people would happen.

Posted by: Kelir | August 30, 2007 04:35 AM

I AM SO SICK OF PETA PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT PITBULL RIGHTS. WHY DONT YA'LL SUPPORT ALL RIGHTS, LIKE HUMANS AND ANIMALS RIGHTS. WASN'T IT WHITE PEOPLE WHO TRAINED DOGS IN THE 1950'S AND 1960'S TO BE VICIOUS AND ATTACK BLACK PEOPLE DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. DURING THAT ERA THEY ATTACKED NOT ONLY ADULTS BUT INNOCENT CHILDREN SO DONT TELL ME THIS IS A RACIST ISSUE BITCH THIS IS A FACT. WHAT MIKE DID WAS WRONG BUT YA'LL BEING DOING THIS. WHY DIDN'T YALL FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS AS PEOPLE WHEN YA'LL MEN WERE RAPING OUR WOMEN CAUSING THEM TO MIX AND CONFUSE US, AREN'T WE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANIMALS, WELL MAYBE NOT TO YOU BUT TO THE MOST HIGH, HE PUT US ABOVE ALL ANIMALS. WHY AREN'T YA'LL OUT FIGHTING FOR THOSE INNOCENT BABIES RIGHTS THAT CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM THESE MEN WHO ARE MOLESTING AND RAPING THEM EVERYDAY THAT ARE BEING RELEASED ON PROBATION SO THAT THEY CAN GO BACK AND DO THE SAME THING TO SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD, WHY NOT PUT YOUR FOCUS ON THINGS THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A DAM VICIOUS AS BREED OF DOGS. I HAVE OWNED MANY PITBULLS AND I LOVED THEM BUT NOT ENOUGH THAT I WOULD PUT THEM BEFORE MAN. I DIDN'T MISTREAT MY DOGS BUT I DIDN'T FULLY TRUST THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR REPUTATION SO YA'LL GET UP OFF MIKE AND GET A LIFE BITCHESSSSSSSS.

Posted by: peta-pan | August 30, 2007 10:36 AM

Well well, Manong you should try learning English and while you're at it get some education on the meaning of COMPASSION and RESPECT. I am sure the dogs you cruelty slaughter just so you can turn them into shit will be pleased to know you "revere" them. My God you people are so full of it!

Posted by: animalabusehater | August 30, 2007 11:17 AM

I think they should make an example out of michael vick.He is an celebrity and it will let people know you can not treat animals this way and when where done with this case we should go after the horse and dog racing ban It!!these animals where not put here to entertain us. Some animals are put here for food and thats it! And to anyone that says peta is full of crap is stupid.they can only focus on one evil group at a time give them chance and they will go after these other organizations that are cruel to animals. They really need to crack down on this dog-fighting in Florida and cock-fighting in Alabama and prosecute to the full extent of the law, give them prison time and people will stop doing this for money!!! Keep up the good work PETA Fight for these animals cause all people seem to worry about is michael vick and how yall are picking on him. He is evil and needs to go to prison. He commited a horrific crime. Anyone that doesn't understand how i can say that . Picture these poor dogs locked up in a cage all day in the hot sun , not take care of and then they are thrown in a pit to fight to the death for money to the owner of the dog. Go watch a video or seee a match in real life , then tell me that mr. Vick or anyone else for that matter should not go to prison , Then come talk to me! It is the cruelist sIght ever!!!!Those poor dogs suffer and DIE!!!

Posted by: tonya brown | August 30, 2007 11:46 AM

Michael Vick may have been a great athelete but he is an uncompasionate, disgusting human being. Unfortunately these dogs will be euthanized because of his deeds. He has taken lives that should not have been lost. He is essentially a terrorist. I believe that all people who abuse animals are terrorists. Think about it this way, if someone is treating an animal in a manner you wouldn't allow your child to watch, he's a terrorist. Vick should rot in jail, only 5 years isn't enough. If they put him in solitary, maybe. I hope all of his dogs are all waiting for him in the after-life, and they're hungry.

Posted by: P Wilson | August 30, 2007 11:49 AM

I'd like to start by saying 'thank you' to those of you with your heads screwed on the right way. You're our only hope to a decent future.

AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN…Thank you self-proclaimed 'Black Queen' --and all others who pulled the race card for use in this topic-- for portraying our African American community as ignorant and foolish. Your uneducated comments shame your black peers. For the record, we are not all inclined to pull the race card. A few of us do not feel we are owed any debt by the "white man" in society and have worked through it on our own terms. We should all understand that was Vick and other dogfighters do is 100% disgusting and immoral. Now the question is what should happen with the poor pups?

These dogs are trained fighting killers. Yes this is unfortunate but to believe they can be "saved" or "changed" is just a dream. They do not have a chance of normal healthy lives in cages and cannot be let into new homes. You cannot redirect the damage done; they cannot be made into good dogs after a lifetime of hurt and hate. Having seen the destruction first-hand, I know as many others do, that "help" for the pups will not work; it's a sad truth.

Posted by: Tandra Evans | August 30, 2007 12:07 PM

Michael Vick's indictment is not about race but about animal cruelty and illegal actions. Get off the racist issue - why is this the card drawn when one has nothing else to say? Inhumanity (in any form) is NOT excused by race, sex, age, religion, socio-economic or celebrity status....and most obviously, stupidity!

If rehabilitation of these fighting dogs is a viable option, then Michael Vick should pay for it. If it is not, then these dogs should be euthanized humanely. But I certainly don't have enough information to make that determination and neither do most of the bloggers. So why don't we leave the hard decision to the experts. Unfortunately, not all choices in life are simple but.....
The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated
- Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)

Posted by: KatR | August 30, 2007 12:16 PM

Although, I stand by PETA on most issues, this will not be one of them. Places like Best Friends have and are capable of giving these dogs a good quality of life. There is no reason to Kill Them. They have already been through Hell. Best Friends has offered to take these dogs and have suggested along with people who support them that Mr. Vick should have to care for these dogs for the rest of there lives. SORRY KILLING THESE DOGS IS NOT AN OPTION THAT I CAN AGREE WITH, NO MORE THAN CAN I AGREE WITH YOU WHEN YOU CLAIM THAT ALL FERAL CATS SHOULD BE KILLED. NO WAY. But keep up the good work your hearts are in the right place.

Posted by: Mirna | August 30, 2007 12:54 PM

This is not a white or black man thing, its compasion. I feel some of the dogs can be saved and I would love the opportunity do adopt one.
I also do agree that these pieces of crap should be sent to jail for a LONG TIME.
aS FOR THE PRESIDENT HUNTIng, it just shows these politicians are ass****s that care for noone and it is THEM who should be hunted.

Posted by: Paul Thandi | August 30, 2007 01:53 PM

For those of u who is against to hv those Pit Bull rescued from Vick's house put down, why don't u donate money to the animal shelter in Vick's home town, build a new shelter especially for those dogs, hire doctor, care people for the rest of those dog's life.
U need to build individul long runners,since they can 't mix together without killing each other and tearing each other apart, instead post ur nonsense comments here.
On top of that, go to UR local animal shelter too, do some volunteer work, better work with the abandoned, rescued Pit Bulls from dogfighting, then come back and post ur opinion.

Posted by: ann | August 30, 2007 01:59 PM

Ann: For the record, I do work with animals only not at a shelter, but on the streets. I have met dogs on the streets most people think I am CRAZY for even trying to get near them. And yes it is dangerous at times. Best Friends Animal Sanctuary has animals on there property that most be separated from all other animals and yes they do live a good quality of life. Is it hard work you bet it is but well worth it. And I am sure if we could communicate with the animals they would agree.

Also, one of Cesar Milan "The Dog Whisperer most touching story is about one-eyed Popeye, he was a fighting Pit Bull and yes they can be helped and with time some even become great canine citizens.

Killing them is not a solution IT IS THE END!!

Posted by: Mirna | August 30, 2007 02:39 PM

Mia McLeod -
if you don't agree that on an animal rights website animals are put before people - so then fuck off this website and go to a blog which puts people before animals!

Posted by: Takis Parmenidis | August 30, 2007 02:49 PM

Tandra Evans... you SAID IT. Thank God someone did.

Posted by: Christina | August 30, 2007 03:10 PM

O.k., no attacks on my education, B.A. plus I am a certified Dog Trainer. I have been fostering dogs for over 2 years now (your usual foster dogs doesn't land in rescue unless there is/are some behavior problem(s). Granted my breeds of most expertise are pugs, Boston Terriers, and French Bulldogs, but I am not prejudiced against Pit Bulls at all. I have seen so many Pit Bulls rehabilitated (my mentor in rescue has a daughter and her rescued Pit Bull is nothing shy of a big puss. It would be wonderful if what remains of Vick's pack could be evaluated by a professional for temperament, then rehabbed by Pit Bull rescue, where they are further evaluated, and after passing all the tests, placed in loving, bully breed experienced homes. Granted, this would take money, but Vick's fines should more than cover it, and if not, make his fines so they do. There should not be just a painting of a wide brush when it comes to these dogs, or any dogs for that matter. Euthanasia should be an absolute last resort! I've had aggressive Bostons as fosters, who were never bred for anything other than giving kisses and sitting on your lap, but it just takes some smarts and common sense to figure out what sets them off, and a commitment by the owner to not put the dog in a situation where it is apt to get stressed or whatever else sets it off. Rehabilitation can be done, but as for Vick, I'd give him little to no chance at rehabilitation.
Just my humble opinion

Posted by: Maggie | August 30, 2007 03:14 PM

I still think PETA is GREAT! and will back you and defend all the good work that you do.

Posted by: Mirna | August 30, 2007 03:15 PM

Vick took the lives of these innocent dogs and Vick deserves the electric chair!!!

Posted by: Theresa | August 30, 2007 03:41 PM

These dogs should be saved and "relased" in Vick's very own soon to be "CAGE"! Now that would be some really
"BAD NEWZ" for you Vick!

Posted by: Julia | August 30, 2007 03:59 PM

My companion is a Rottweiler/lab mix who was labeled "extremely aggressive" after being abused by a previous person. He bit two persons (drunks who were harassing him) and many other dogs, and many would have deemed him a lost cause. But he was just very nervous and paranoid. Now he's the sweetest boy around, and one of the most intelligent dogs I've ever met.

Posted by: Yar | August 30, 2007 04:01 PM

Tell me how you treat animals, I will tell you who you are".
"To judge cywilization, religion, philosophie, man, you can look haw they treat animals. We almost can do, whatever we wont to do with animals. When we do good for them, we can't wait for rewords. For crualty, we do, we most of the time not punished. Whathever we do - it is our morality".
Hope sam day treating right animals will be not neded to discuss.

Posted by: Ewa | August 30, 2007 04:08 PM

Well - it comes as a shock to me that this has become a race issue. I always thought the garbage that compete in this God foresaken sport (ha) were redneck hillbillies. But I do think it's a great idea to make Vic pay for a shelter and reabilitation for any of these dogs that may possibly be saved.

Posted by: Suzi | August 30, 2007 04:47 PM

Vick should have gotten into the hunting business. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's most recent survey, 13 million hunters spend 20.6 billion dollars per year. The economic impact of hunting is at $67 billion. Hunters can spend $2000 easily on equipment for the hunt. 13 million hunters vs Vick's dogfighting... well let's just say, hunting is not going anywhere anytime soon.

Posted by: monty | August 30, 2007 05:48 PM

There may be little hope for Vick's pit bulls, but it's not a bad idea to contact Cesare Millan and see what he can offer. He has rehabilitated fighting pit bulls many times and knows what he's doing. Would there be any harm in trying?
After all, no pit bull of Cesar's ever ends up in the pound, as a great many of them do otherwise. Great idea, and I hope PETA will consider it.

Posted by: Susannah S | August 30, 2007 06:05 PM

It's times like these that I am embarassed to be a PETA member. How hypocritical can you be?
According to animal behavioral specialists, the majority of these dog's CAN be rehabilitated.
I am the proud parent of a rescue Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and a rescue Shar-pei/Pit Bull Mix. BOTH of my dog's were bred to fight, taken in a seize from a warehouse in Detroit. My dog's show no signs of aggression, they live in harmony with each other and my two small children.

Posted by: Angela Zakrzewski | August 30, 2007 06:56 PM

PETA is just pissed because they didn't get to their way and see them all PTS! What's this comment about mutilating them, what's that got to do with putting them in a sanctuary? YOU PETA folks hate pits. YOU refused to return Katrina pets to their rightful owners, WHERE IS BATMAN, the pom that belongs to the 7 yr old who begged for you to return his dog!? You have no shame! Owners had to fight to get the 5 back of the 22 that you stole!...shame, shame, shame on you. Hope Cara is taking good care of Batman, cause the real owners will be happy he is still in good health when he comes home.

Posted by: friendofkatrinapets | August 30, 2007 07:37 PM

How can we get this to the Judge that will sentence him?

I am glad that Michael Vick has found God. That is just Dog spelled backwards!

A simple punishment for Michael Vick would be that he can never own or be within 100 feet of a Dog. He is required to clean dog cages at Human Society while in Prison, and he be placed on 10 years parole.

How can we get this to the Judge that will sentence him?

Posted by: engineer Al | August 30, 2007 08:29 PM

The most humane thing to do for these poor animals is to put them down.

Posted by: k | August 30, 2007 08:59 PM

Tandra Evans: Thank you, thank you for your comments. I was about to despair of reading anything written by a truly reasonable, rational human being.
I wish I could buy you lunch, because I would love to get to know you better. I have a feeling we would become fast friends!
People, pay attention! An intelligent woman (who actually possesses common sense!)is trying to teach you something!

Posted by: Mary | August 30, 2007 10:35 PM

Oh, Enough of you people crying that Michael Vick is being prosecuted because he is black! He is a despicable human being who deserves much worse punishment than he is getting. Maybe if he worried more about going to school than torturing dogs as a child he would not be in this predicament. If a white or hispanic person ever does what he has ADMITTED to doing, we will want justice just as much. If you call getting paid 130 Million dollars to play a mindless sport predicial than maybe we will listen to you. Grow up and realize he is a loser no matter what color his skin is. Maybe Tiger Woods could teach him what a true sportsman should act like. I guess Vick chose to emulate OJ Simpson. How SAD!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Debbie P. | August 30, 2007 10:37 PM

re peta-pain

NO valid argument
NO valid points
NO credibility
NO sense, and
NO CLASS.

comes off more qualified to fight in the pit than the coerced pit bulls she purports to know so much about but knows NOTHING... unfairly maligning the breed without benefit of REAL understanding, concern, or knowledge.

a lowlife mentality and ill regard towards these poor dogs is typical of her ilk, and the breed has been cruelly exploited and abused at their hands

thus the bad reputation of the breed, and inherent tendecies and unpredictable behaviour of an unfortunate few usually subjected to neglect and abuse!

fact: when given a decent chance and a good HOME pitbulls have consistently proven to be exceptional pets deserving of our LOVE and HELP.

Posted by: 007 | August 31, 2007 03:25 AM

007-AND YOUR EVIL ADVOCATES. I KNOW I ANGERED YOU AND A LOT MORE OF YOUR KIND. I DO KNOW YAHSHUA DO YOU. HE DOES FAVOR US OVER Y'ALL, READ THE BOOK THEN YOU WILL KNOW THAT THE REAL HEBREWS WILL REAP THE BENEFITS IN THE END. DONT BE MAD BECAUSE WE ARE THE CHOSEN ONES. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING TRAMP HE DOESN'T HONOR THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE FORGIVING HEARTS LIKE YOURS & OTHERS WHO REPRESENT PETA. I KNOW ITS HARD TO ACCEPT THE TRUTH BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT I POSTED WAS FACTUAL, BUT GET OVER IT BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS THE LIGHT. I DON'T HATE ANIMALS BUT I DON'T LOVE THEM ENOUGH FOR THEM TO SLEEP IN THE BED WITH ME NOR EAT FROM MY PLATE AND KISS ME IN THE MOUTH, AND DEFINITELY NOT LICK MY PRIVATE PARTS LIKE YA'LL--SO PUT A LID ON IT BITCH. I KNOW MORE ABOUT THE MOST HIGH THAN YOU EVER COULD. IT'S A SPIRITUAL CONNECTION BUT YOU COULDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU WASN'T BORN WITH THAT AND YOU SURE AS HELL DONT HAVE ANY SOUL AND MOST OF ALL YOU WORSHIP THE SUN, NOT THE SON. WE ALL NEED THE MESSIAH DUMMY. TELL ME (IQ OF 007) HOW HAVE YOU BEEN SO PERFECT THAT YOU HAVEN'T SINNED IN NO WAY. OH, YOUR GOD SATAN MUST HAVE TOLD YOU THAT YOUR SIN WASN'T AS BAD AS VICK'S, HOW DUMB ARE YOU. BECAUSE MY GOD CREATOR OF ALL THINGS RATES ALL SIN THE SAME. (YOU UNEDUCATED FOOL.)

Posted by: peta-pan | August 31, 2007 05:35 AM

ANA-THE DUMB ASS WHORE OR BITCH WHICH ONE IS IT. I'M NOT GONNA WASTE ANYTIME WITH YOU. I KNOW WITH A NAME LIKE ANA WHO YOU WOULD REPRESENT. THE KKK IS IN EVERY ORGANIZATION LIKE THE WHITE HOUSE, COURTHOUSE, SENATE, YOUR HOME, THEIR HOMES, AND DEFINITELY PETA. I KNOW ABOUT PETA BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT PETA NOW, THE WAY Y'ALL WENT AFTER MIKE, I THOUGHT YALL WERE A BUNCH OF PITBULLS. OBSERVSER OR OBSERVER WHICH ONE IS IT DUMB ASS. ME, POSSESS BITCH PLEASE. Y'ALL ARE THE MOST EVIL PEOPLE OF THE EARTH. SO WHAT IF VICK LIED, TELL ME YOU HAVEN'T LIED BEFORE YOU SICK WHORE. THAT'S ALL YALL DID WAS LIED AND STILL IS. MADE OUR ANCESTORS THINK THEY WERE AFRICANS, BITCH PLEASE, WE KNOW WHO WE ARE NOW. THAT WAS ONE BIG LIE... DONT YOU LIE TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT THOSE PAGAN HOLIDAYS, AND ETC. HOW CAN YOU EVEN HAVE ROOM TO CALL MIKE A LIAR. HAVEN'T WE ALL LIED,MS GOODY 2 SHOES. I DONT HATE ANIMALS BUT I JUST WON'T LICK THEIR ASSES LIKE YOU & YOUR POSSE.....YOU CAN KISS & LICK MY ASS & VICKS........ SCOTT: YOUR MAMMY IS A PIECE OF SHIT, (THAT I KNOW) FROM VICKS NO. 1 SUPPORTER.

Posted by: peta-pan | August 31, 2007 06:22 AM

I don't know how many of you already saw this, but ASPCA is going to evaluate the Vick dogs to see if any of them can be saved. The final decision still rests with the judge, but it looks as if there MAY be a chance for at least some of these dogs.
I hope so.

Posted by: Susannah S | August 31, 2007 09:23 AM

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2055961762

I found this video and was appalled...I cannot believe that he "defended" his case and actually JUSTIFIED dragging animals behind his car...he said that his mother did it to him when he was little...SO WHAT? He was also holding a Chihuahau...someone rescue the little guy!!!!
Vick is a moron, an IQ lower than DIRT. I don't know which hole the dragged him from, but I pray it was not in an educated environment....

Posted by: maggie | August 31, 2007 10:56 AM

mirna,
bravo,
let's hear ur opinion after u hv physically worked with pit bull.

peta-pan,
according to the commander sergeant kevin kilgore of hanover (va)county animal control facility to the visinting reporters, ur darling michael vick the criminal has NEVER visit or called to check on the eleven pit bulls ( which he CLAIMED he loved )rescued from his house .
that is ur darling vick, the sick, the ring leader of dogfighting, the dog killer, the liar, the pathetic monster.
he should be hang on the same tree which he hanged his NON PERFORM dogs, dose with water then electrocuted, his body slamed on the same wall he did to those dogs,hv his head push into a five gallon water bucket,after hv him neutered, tossed his stinky body on the ground and let the dirt bury him.
it is garbage like u make our socity the way it is today.
it is a waste of time to read ur post, so , get lost and find a web where u belong.

Posted by: ann | August 31, 2007 12:45 PM

TO PETA-PAININTHEASS...

WHOA! YOU POOR THING. YOU'RE TRYING TOO HARD!

CAN'T UNDERSTAND A WORD YOU'RE SCREAMING AND DON'T CARE TO,
YOU MANIACAL, FOUL MOUTH LOON!

"YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE, GET OUT!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 31, 2007 01:53 PM

oh my god, maggie,
this link scare the ##### of me.
the jerk is disgusting, since i hv the volume up, even my two dogs woke up from their beauty sleep started barking at the computer.
so sad we hv jerk like this in our society, he should be locked up for good.

Posted by: ann | August 31, 2007 03:08 PM

TO ALL OF YOU PETA SUPPORTERS, IF YOU WERE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE PITS THEN WHY NOT ADOPT THE PITS THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY M. VICKS, TO KEEP THEM FROM BEING PUT DOWN. YOU CAN'T DO THAT CAN YOU BECAUSE THEY BELONGED TO A BLACK MAN. IF THEY WERE THE UNEDUCATED PRESIDENT BUSH'S DOGS Y'ALL WOULD GLADLY TAKE THEM WOULDN'T YOU? IT'S SO AMAZING HOW U WENT AFTER MIKE WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER. BECAUSE THE 15 PAGE INDICTMENT WAS A BUNCH OF HOG-WASH. IF I WERE THOSE CO-DEFENDANTS I WOULD HAVE LIED ON VICK TO SO THAT I COULD SAVE MY OWN ASS....THAT'S WHY I KNOW IT WAS A RACIST ISSUE, EVERYTHING IS WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR KIND. ALL OF YOU AREN'T THE SAME BUT ITS ONLY A FEW. WHY DONT Y'ALL FIGHT FOR THE BLACK YOUNG MEN THAT ARE BEING BRUTALLY SHOT DOWN BY POLICIE'S ALL OVER THE WORLD, NOT BECAUSE THEY DONE WRONG, BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK. GET YOUR ASSES OUT AND FIGHT FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT WERE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS EVEN SOME THAT FOUGHT WARS FOR THIS COUNTRY AND CAN'T EVEN GET A JOB OR BENEFITS FIGHT FOR THEM, THAT WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN DOGS...I LOVE DOGS BUT I'M JUST NOT GOING TO PUT THEM BEFORE HUMANS...............

Posted by: peta-pan | August 31, 2007 03:16 PM

SITE OWNER: forgot to sign in re previous post. please post

PETA PAININTHEASS:

I REPEAT, YOU ARE TRYING TOO HARD. YOUR ANGER OBLITERATES ANY HOPE FOR A SANE, INTELLIGENT THOUGHT FROM YOU.
ME ANGRY? NOT A CHANCE!
YOU ONLY WISH YOU HAD ANY SUCH POWER OVER ME!

NEWSFLASH!!!
GOD'S "TRUE" CHURCH DOES NOT REEK OF FILTHY HATE SPEECH AND MANIACAL OUT OF CONTROL EGOS AND ATTITUDES!
YOU'RE CHOSEN ALL RIGHT...
A CHOSEN DEVIL!

LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW NOTHING, AND CAN ONLY LASH OUT IGNORANT STATEMENTS AND VILE INVECTIVES. CAN'T EVEN MUSTER UP AN ORIGINAL SANE THOUGHT OF YOUR OWN SO YOU GO TWISTING OTHER PEOPLES STATEMENTS.
DON'T BOTHER LOOKING FOR ANOTHER RESPONSE FROM ME AS I'VE WASTED ENOUGH TIME JUST TRYING TO READ YOUR ILLITERATE UNGODLY BLATHER!

BOTTOM LINE:
YOU ARE A DISGRACE AND EMBARASSAMENT TO ILYAN YAHWEH,
GET DELIVERENCE!

OR, AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE WORLD, GET OUT!

Posted by: 007 | August 31, 2007 03:17 PM

Hi Peta-pan.

I hope you don't mind if I address some of your concerns, I agree with them. You have a valid point, if I had to choose between pointing the finger at Vick and going to jail, I would lie my butt off!!

However, that does not change the fact that Michael Vick admitted to a judge that he took part in executing dogs. Once he admitted that, I had no choice but to assume that he did.

I'm a certified veterinary nurse, and I can assure you of two things:

1. Many animal professionals think that PETA goes too far sometimes. This over the top story is typical of PETA focusing like crazy on celebrities. However, I beleive in my heart it's not racism. Think about it, PETA gets lots of attention (read: donations) by name dropping celebrities.

The NFL, football, ESPN, all hot-ticket items right now. You know as well as I do, Peta pan, that this would have been a hot potato story even without PETA, because Vick is a huge celebrity sports star.

2. Also, I want to assure you, many animal professionals like myself, and veterinarians and shelter workers and such, do take civil rights, veterans rights and homeless issues seriously.

I worked with a woman who cooked dinner for homeless folks, including veterans, at her home several times a week and offered them a place in her home when they needed it.

And plenty of us vote and go to civil rights protests for the rights of African Americans. It's on my mind a lot, because I don't like any kind of injustice.

Take care.

Maya

Posted by: Maya | August 31, 2007 03:56 PM

If I read that this is a racist issue ONE more time, I am going to VOMIT. Does anyone honestly think that if Manning or Bradley had been caught the same way that everybody would have said, "Oh, that's okay". I am seeing lots of racism, all right, and it certainly isn't directed towards blacks. It is directed towards whites, because the black people who support Michael Vick apparently think that laws are written only for whites to obey...and if blacks commit a felony, well then, that is just fine. Face it!! It is NO longer WHITEY who is keeping the black man down....it is the Michael Vicks and DMXs of the world. Clean your OWN closet before you start whining that living with the stigma of past injustices give a man free rein to commit crimes simply because he is black.

Posted by: Kim Langlois | August 31, 2007 04:16 PM

Let me just start out saying that I am a Vick supporter.

That being said, I just will never understand how PETA is so into preservation of the dog. I like dogs. I think they are cute, wonderful to have, and overall good animals. But let's be honest here: we all know that pit bulls, rotweilers, are very agressive dogs with a propensity to fight, even without provocation. Why do you all take the time, commitment and resources to fight so vehemetely for these "killers," when you should be putting your time, resources, and overall efforts into something more important like being activists for healthcare for all Americans, ridding our streets of countless numbers of men, women, and especially children who are homeless, etc, etc. I could go on, but you all really need to come together and protest and protect our people FIRST.

Posted by: Dee Dee | August 31, 2007 04:40 PM

peta-pan

I can't stop laughing!!!!! LOL HA ha ha ha!! Take your meds. Vick is sick and so are you!!!

Animal Liberation now!!!

007

You are so right about this sick buffoon peta-pan. No wonder the animals suffer so much in this world, they have idiots like this guy to contend with. Can't bother to respond to his mad comments.
JUSTICE FOR ANIMALS!!!

Posted by: Ana | August 31, 2007 04:55 PM

Ann:

I have been honored to have rescue 3 pitts in my life and they all lived to be 13 plus years old. I loved them dearly and they never had a bad gesture towards anyone they met. Are there bad ones out there YES but there are good and bad people also, should we judge all people of one race for the actions of just a few I think not.

I also rescued a Chihuahua (bless her sole, cute as hell) one time that I had to keep on a very SHORT LEASH, if you know what I mean. She would jump at the chance to bite anyone or anything that was within her reach. I called her SHE DEVIL and she was. LOL. But I love her the same.

Pitts are working dogs not killing machines that was man made.

But, I still understand you position and respect your thoughts. But not all pitts are bad. There is one here in my home town that is a therapy dog and has received a lot of awards.

Posted by: Mirna | August 31, 2007 07:11 PM

what,the differents between dogfighting and luring animals with food or a chance to mate and shooting them. they really don't have a chance against guns or bows.are dogsand cats more real than any other animal

Posted by: DLD | August 31, 2007 08:38 PM

For God's sake peta-pan, stop using the " us black people are treated unfairly" card. yes, its's true that black people are subjected to a lot of racism and pressure and are expected to act like deliquints. yes, it is true that the prejudices of us 'white people' have made having a comformtable life harder than it is for us. but i am sick and tired of black people using the 'black card' as an excuse for everything that goes wrong. vick tortured dogs. that is a fact. will him being a great football player or being white or asian or turquoise have made those dogs any more comfortable? no. it disgusts me how ready people are to aquit the rich-and-famous of their wrongdoings. and, " WE WENT AFTER MIKE WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE" oh please, there was dead dogs littered all over his place, but no, that can't possibly count as evidence when the accused is the famous #7 Michael Vick. this just shows how desperate you are to blindly aquit him of all faults just because he is a) a very talented football player b)because he is just soooooooooooo damn famous that he can't possibly be that bad and c)the oh-so-cliche "black card". i respect black people, and my best friend is actually haitien, but please, stop pulling that card, it just hinders the progress that other more rational and educated black people have made towards destroying that racism that you so despise.

Posted by: eve | August 31, 2007 09:48 PM

The dogs are not at fault for their behavoir. They are stereotyped along with rotweillers and dobermans. its how you raise the dogs on how they act. I am around all types everyday and I don't have any problems. Vick should be treated just like he treated those dogs. No excuse in treating animals the way they did. NO EXCUSE! He makes plenty of money!! Why hurt animals??? He is a worthless piece of shit and I wish I could tell him that face to face!!! Vick YOU ARE A WORTHLESS HUMAN BEING AND I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ksm4 | August 31, 2007 09:59 PM

PETA has done more to help animals than any other organization.
The article is right on.
The Vick dogs are better off dead.
So are some of the idiots who are on this blog.

And, by the way, dogs are better than most people.

Posted by: Kim K | August 31, 2007 11:53 PM

maya agrees with peta pan LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!

stupid, evil minds think alike!!!

Posted by: observer | September 1, 2007 07:15 AM

"PETA has done more to help animals than any other organization."

Like what?

Hunters have contributed Billions of dollars toward game and non-game animals and provided funding to purchase millions of acres of land to preserve wildlife habitat.PETA has done more?

Posted by: Mars | September 1, 2007 09:57 AM

Dee Dee

PETA blog
This is an animal rights blog concerned about seeking justice for animals and ending the horrible cruelties that they are subjected to daily every second of the day. Why don't YOU take the TIME to alleviate all of the injustices that people suffer at the hands of PEOPLE. I don't go on people-related blogs and demand rights for animals because unlike you I know that that would be utterly stupid. So what you done lately for all those people you care so desperately about??? Your being a Vick supporter says it all for me.

ANIMAL LIBERATION!!!!!

Posted by: Ana | September 1, 2007 03:06 PM

Kim K: I agree with our statement that dogs are better than most people. I have been accused of favoring animals or humans (I must agree this it true) and my answer is always the same.

If, humans were dogs, cats, etc., I would offer them my unconditional friendship, shelter and a plate of food. And the world would be a better place!!

Posted by: Mirna | September 1, 2007 03:34 PM

PETA,
I will no longer support you financially via my donations for killing these defenseless animals. If your teen becomes violent, would you kill her/him too?
If Ingred loses her mind and injures someone, would you kill her too?
There is nothing humane about euthanasia, It is MURDER!

Posted by: Jasmin | September 1, 2007 03:44 PM

TO ALL YOU IGNORANT ASS HOLES WHO WANTS TO MAKE THIS RACIST, THIS IS FOR YOU.

ISN'T IT A FACT THAT IN THE 50'S & 60'S DOGS DID ATTACK BLACK PEOPLE, WOULDN'T THEY HAVE HAD TO BE TRAINED TO BE THAT VICIOUS, SO VICK DIDN'T START THIS ITS BEEN GOING ON.

RIGHT NOW I DONT HAVE THE TIME TO RSPOND FULLY TO YOU DUMB ASSES, BUT LET ME TELL YOU THIS, THAT ALL YALL WHORES CAN KISS MY ASS AND I WILL POST SOON. (IQ007) I GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU THAT WILL SHUT YOUR STINKING MOUTH YOU IGNORANT BITCH.

Posted by: peta-pan | September 1, 2007 04:28 PM

Vick the Prick is Sick and the color of his skin has nothing to do with it.

I am writting the Judge who will sentence him to be as mean as he was and give him the whole 5 years to "grow Up" because that is how long it will take that A-Hole to grow up.

Posted by: Liz O | September 1, 2007 10:48 PM

UR A RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "MRS. BLACK QUEEN I HAVE TO STICK BY MY BLACK PPL" IF I KNEW U I'D KNOCK U THE FUCK OUT, YOU FUCKIN IGNORANOUS....U SHOULD B EMBERRAASSED TO BE ALIVE...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2007 11:19 PM

i dont agree with with having to put to sleep these dogs they have not asked to be trained to kill or maim each other i think they should try and be retrained

Posted by: lou | September 2, 2007 03:16 PM

lET'S GIVE THESE DOGS A JOB, LIKE GUARDING PRISONERS.

Posted by: TRISH | September 2, 2007 04:37 PM

What year is peta-pan living in? I thought we were in 2007? Also, isn't there something that can be done about the threat peta-pan made? Apparently, people forget that just because they are on the internet, they are not always anonymous (and they forget how to work the caps key).

Posted by: sherri | September 2, 2007 04:41 PM

I feel everyone should speak for all dogs that suffered at the hands of Vick & his gang. One NFL player compared this to hunting. That is a low blow. These poor dogs were tortured at the hands of others & put on stage as a show. How sick is that? The NFL needs to make a statement & no longer have Vick or anyother player that has made bets or attended these dog fights. How can any sane person take pleasure in this? Vick needs to pay back the dog community. Much money toward SAVING dogs would be a start. I know I can sleep at night knowing I would never take joy in killing living animal that puts their whole life into our hands

Posted by: Candace | September 2, 2007 08:41 PM

I think they should rub raw beef on Mr. Vick and put in a cage with the "Vick dogs". He is a disgrace and I can't believe that an operation as big as his wasn't noticed earlier. Micheal Vick should never be mentioned as an athlete or anything other than what he is ...a cold hearted coward!! It is ashame that God gave him a gift..talent,and he threw it away!! The NFL should not stand the digrace of him in any uniform!!

Posted by: Jo Ann | September 2, 2007 09:22 PM

Why not let Vick pay to keep his dogs in a safe environment with animal behaviorists reeducating and rehabilitating them, until they die of old age? After all this situation is all Vick's fault. Let him pay for it!

Posted by: Elena Valdameri, Italy | September 3, 2007 03:45 AM

I support the Vick dogs to be
put down. Many of the dogs were trained as pups to fight and kill. We should focus on the adoptable animals. I hope Vick gets the
help he needs before his violence turns to the human race. This is not a race issue, it is a cruelty issue.

Posted by: Carole | September 3, 2007 09:05 AM

Dogs are suppose to be man's best friend, why are men training their best friends to kill another living creatures?

I am the owner of a Boxer. Everyday, I look at my Boxer, Sophi, wondering how someone could train a dog to kill. I guess it all comes down to the almighty dollar - betting on which dog will be left standing.

Personally, I think that anyone who is convicted of illegal dog fighting, should be put in a boxing ring with someone who will no doubt leave the convicted person laying on the boxing ring floor (this would give them a taste of what happens to a dog when forced to fight).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2007 12:58 PM

Im sitting here reading alot of the comments u people are leaving an really none of u know what you are talking about.Dogfighting has been around since the 1800's if you read books!,an one man superstar or not isnt going to stop decades of dogmen having classic matches.See if you critics knew the first thing about gamedogs,then u would kno their not trained 2 fight or made,their bred for it,they come out their mothers womb fighters,just like your great athletes TIGER,JORDAN,BIRD,CLEMENS,MANNING,MAGIC.Ive heard stories of it an its been said sometimes fights dont even last 5 mins an the dogs r not even harmed,i dont encourage dogfighting,but im from the south an its deeply rooted down here an alot of more states,an just like boxing,hunting,UCF,kickboxing,an bullfighting it is a bloodsport,the only illegal bcaus the money is tax-free an they affilate it with drugs an gangs.They dont know some dogmen are working men an dogfighting feeds their family,so all im sayin is before you morons who know nothing try 2 judge something you think is wrong just caus your in the dark on the subject speak your mind.Do a little research an then you will see it from both sides,right or wrong!

Posted by: T Double D | September 3, 2007 03:51 PM

Given that the nature of these poor dogs has been damaged beyond repair, the kindest thing would be euthanasia, but only after all avenues of rehabilitation and resources have been exhausted. And to the commentator who is "eating a cheeseburger, a nugget, and wearing a fur coat": your burger is from a bovine with mad cow disease, your nugget is infected with e-coli, and your fur coat is stained with the blood of the animal who was scalloped out of it, and is financially worthless. All of these phenomena have been caused by the rapacious interference of modern man's agricultural and butchering practices...so, good luck with all that.

Posted by: Cynthia | September 3, 2007 04:17 PM

Sure michael Vick should be held responsible for his actions and 12- 18 months behind bars and a large fine i think should be enough.
Now that the focus is on animal abuse as a result of Michael Vicks dogfighting involvment , i think will give us the opportunity to be real ans if this is not a race thing then PETA, and the feds lets go after KFC,and suppliers of Mcdonalds,Ruth Chris steakhouse,pig farmers,these people that have 100s of dogs and cats on their property thats in abusive conditions. You know when their are some people that have sex with animals and i think that they should be treated the same as child abusers put their names out there and track them and let everyone know when we have a sexual animal abuser in the community now one sad truth is that if the feds, and law enfocement could tax dog fighting it would be OK with them,,, Lets Be REAL.

Posted by: jabia | September 3, 2007 05:44 PM

Don't get me wrong I love dogs a lot. I grew up around dogs. But lets get on thing stright. What about deer hunting and all those other animals events that happens around here. That is know different than what Vick was doing. I don't care what know bodys says if it was some one else that would not have been in the news the Vick is. Where I stay they have a Deer hunting club what about that. That is an amimal and what about all the other animals we kill. You tell me how is that different from Vicks. I disagree with everbody that says bad things about that man. I don't think that man job should come in the way. Just let that man pay a fine and get on his way. That man has a family to take care of. Know body is thinking of his family.

Posted by: Pamela Liverman | September 3, 2007 08:31 PM

There is know diference between hunting and dog fighting they are all the same. You can't tell me that they are difference. All the animals sports are the same. And that man does not deserve to die. That is a bit munch.

Posted by: Pamela Liverman | September 3, 2007 08:37 PM

If there is a will there is away. Not all dogs will be the same some due overcome the need to harm. I understand they can not be placed with the common public but there are people who will and have taken abused/fighting dogs, and the dogs LIVE a full peaceful life. Give is a chance make the aggresser pay not to help kill as that makes what he was doing end but make him make it up to the dogs For thier entire life. With professional help it CAN and Should be DONE!

Posted by: Nicole Jacobson | September 4, 2007 01:27 AM

TO ALL OF YOU PETA SUPPORTERS, IF YOU WERE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE PITS THEN WHY NOT ADOPT THE PITS THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY M. VICKS, TO KEEP THEM FROM BEING PUT DOWN. YOU CAN'T DO THAT CAN YOU BECAUSE THEY BELONGED TO A BLACK MAN. IF THEY WERE THE UNEDUCATED PRESIDENT BUSH'S DOGS Y'ALL WOULD GLADLY TAKE THEM WOULDN'T YOU? IT'S SO AMAZING HOW U WENT AFTER MIKE WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER. BECAUSE THE 15 PAGE INDICTMENT WAS A BUNCH OF HOG-WASH. IF I WERE THOSE CO-DEFENDANTS I WOULD HAVE LIED ON VICK TO SO THAT I COULD SAVE MY OWN ASS....THAT'S WHY I KNOW IT WAS A RACIST ISSUE, EVERYTHING IS WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR KIND. ALL OF YOU AREN'T THE SAME BUT ITS ONLY A FEW. WHY DONT Y'ALL FIGHT FOR THE BLACK YOUNG MEN THAT ARE BEING BRUTALLY SHOT DOWN BY POLICIE'S ALL OVER THE WORLD, NOT BECAUSE THEY DONE WRONG, BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK. GET YOUR ASSES OUT AND FIGHT FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT WERE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS EVEN SOME THAT FOUGHT WARS FOR THIS COUNTRY AND CAN'T EVEN GET A JOB OR BENEFITS FIGHT FOR THEM, THAT WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN DOGS...I LOVE DOGS BUT I'M JUST NOT GOING TO PUT THEM BEFORE HUMANS...............
I HAD 2 PITS. A BROTHER AND SISTER. THEY WERE RAISED TOGEATHER. THEY WERE NUTERED! AND THEY WEREN'T USED IN DOG FIGHTING. THE MALE WAS THE BIGGEST BABY. EVERYTIME HE GOT IN THE HOUSE HE WOULD JUMP IN MY LAP. (HIS ACTIONS, TAIL WAGGING AND LICKING)WAS AN URGING TO PET HIM. LOVE HIM.
THAT WAS BEFORE I RETIRED FROM MY GOVERNMENT JOB AND HURICANNE KATRINEA......

Posted by: Sharion | September 4, 2007 12:45 PM

Anybody trying to justify this as a cultural thing, a deep south thing, an ignorant thing is just as sick as vick the *ick. If you don't realize as a human being that killing living creatures is wrong, something that doesn't need to be TAUGHT, then maybe mv needs not to be around a civilized society until he decides to EVOLVE. GO VEGAN!

Posted by: SATINKA | September 4, 2007 02:49 PM

since when did this become a racial issue? why is it always about race? are you serious? the magnitude of these crimes are what matter...not race. cruel and inhumane treatment can not be tolerated. show your ignorance somewhere else. race has nothing to do with it. it is very sad that is the first thing out of the black communties mouth. RACE RACE RACE!!!! it is about an unacceptable crime. PETA is working to end cruelty to animals in all spectrums. get educated before you try to make a "point." the dogs should be rehabilitated as Vick's expense. they should be given a glimpse of what a good life is.

Posted by: jessica | September 4, 2007 05:45 PM

How about Whoopi Goldberg using her first day on the view to make Vick look like the poor miss guided guy who grew up in an area where dog fighting is as normal as apple pie .
Whoopi should be told how it really is and the View should be shown how these animals are treated and not a multi million dollar quaterback.

Posted by: Gary | September 4, 2007 05:59 PM

This is my first attempt at blogging and while I will refrain from commenting about the fate of Michael Vick's dogs, as this is a hotly debated and important issue with lots of commentary already, I would like to draw some attention to Whoopi Goldberg’s unbelievably supportive view regarding Vick’s activities. I was stunned today to read that Whoopi is defending Michael Vick’s actions by stating that “from where he comes from” in the “South,” dog fighting isn’t that unusual. Aside from insulting “Southerners,” it is disturbing to read that an icon for many, and a celebrity for the rest of us, is so blasé about such an ugly and unforgivable “sport.”

I encourage you to write to The View, or to Barbara Walters, who is the series creator about Ms. Goldberg’s callous and careless attitude. You are not allowed “a walk” from animal cruelty. You are not allowed a “get out of jail free card.” Further, citing a “where you were born and raised” defense does not ring with the clarity of truth, nor does it become an excuse for cruelty of any kind.

The actual story, as I read it this morning is on Yahoo’s dot com page. It is a shame that Whoopi Goldberg has made herself an example of what I like to call “empty noise” and brings precious little to a forum wherein she might have had potential to bring out the better qualities of humankind.

Shame on you, Whoopi Goldberg!

Posted by: Joan | September 4, 2007 06:18 PM

This is my first attempt at blogging and while I will refrain from commenting about the fate of Michael Vick's dogs, as this is a hotly debated and important issue with lots of commentary already, I would like to draw some attention to Whoopi Goldberg’s unbelievably supportive view regarding Vick’s activities. I was stunned today to read that Whoopi is defending Michael Vick’s actions by stating that “from where he comes from” in the “South,” dog fighting isn’t that unusual. Aside from insulting “Southerners,” it is disturbing to read that an icon for many, and a celebrity for the rest of us, is so blasé about such an ugly and unforgivable “sport.”

I encourage you to write to The View and to Barbara Walters, who is the series creator, about Ms. Goldberg’s callous and careless attitude. You are not allowed “a walk” from animal cruelty/depravity. You are not allowed a “get out of jail free card.” Further, citing a “where you were born and raised” defense does not ring with clarity of kindness, nor does it become an excuse for cruelty of any kind.

The actual story, as I read it this morning is on Yahoo’s dot com page. It is a shame that Whoopi Goldberg has made herself an example of what I call “empty noise” and she brings precious little to a forum in which the potential to bring about the better qualities of humankind was/is at her disposal.

Shame on You, Whoopi Goldberg!

Posted by: Joan M. | September 4, 2007 07:08 PM

peta-pan,
since it seems u feel the blacks (people like u?) are not treated fairly in this country, why don't u buy a one way ticket to live somewhere in africa?
i am sure u will be very happy living among ur own kind, but, i am not sure how good their welfare system are :)
as for those people think dogfighting is no big deal since it is just the black thing,southern culture,black people's sport,
i remember not too long ago in the south,they used bloodhound to chase, and lynch criminals,
so, since that is also part of the southerner's culture, may be we should just save the gas, and bullet, go back to use bloodhound and rope?
is that what u people prefer to keep the southern culture going?

Posted by: ann | September 5, 2007 02:57 AM

What is wrong with our society? Michael Vick is an arrogant, multi-millionaire who has no regard for living creatures. And now our wonderful justice system is trying to figure out what to do with all these tortured dogs. Euthanasia is the easiest way out for all involved EXCEPT the animals! I hope the court system makes Michael Vick build and fund a site where these animals can live out the rest of their pitiful lives in the comfort and splendor that Vick lavished on himself all these years. When are we going to make the perpetrator of violent crimes make monetary restitution when they are culpable for their actions? The dogs should not have to sacrifice their lives, because Michael Vick desired some depraved excitement. I am sick to death of our society not taking responsibility for their decisions and blaming their childhood, drugs, movies, the cop that is out to get them or the Campbell's soup can that wouldn't open properly!
Celeste Duncan, North Garden, VA

Posted by: Celeste Duncan | September 6, 2007 01:20 PM

Vick is a piece of crap, ghetto swill, as are his cousins, friends and supporters. Funny only the uneducated blacks are supporting him. Any black with half a brain has condemened him. He also isn't all that as an athelete either. I say "Off to prison, where you can wash your husbands socks"!

Posted by: Cocktails | September 7, 2007 01:41 AM

Animals are lower life forms than that of humans. Animals were put on this earth for humans to eat. Ever hear of the "food chain"? We are at the top?

PETA, should be PITA (Pain In The Ass), are so far to one side of this animal thing that today, as sad as it is, Michael Vick will lose his job because of an unintelligent animal. How sad is that? OJ got away with killing a human being, but Michael Vick will go to prison for "funding" dog fights? How ridiculous!

Wake up people, animals are animals. They don't plan, they don't work or add to the economy in any way, they don't pay taxes, they are nothing more than human entertainment. They are not even intelligent enough to communicate anything other than when they have to go outside.

Dogs fight, people fight. Who cares? Pit Bulls were bred to fight. What's illegal about it, the gambling or the actual cruelty to the animal? Remember, they were bred to fight! They are doing what comes instinctually natural.

So sad you hear everyday where somebody goes to jail because they chained up their dog, or swatted it on the butt with a paper, yet children are abused by the court systems everyday and NOBODY does anything about it. No judge or Domestic Relations authortities go to jail for being anti male. What is this world coming to?

PITA? Spend your time on something worthwhile won't you?

Posted by: Buzzed | September 7, 2007 10:35 AM

If Vick can be rehabilitated, then he should pay for the dogs to be rehabilitated. If the dogs are euthanized, then Vick should also be euthanized.

Posted by: jen | September 7, 2007 03:02 PM

I was reading all the coments on the fate of Vicks dogs and I think we should really think about what we are saying when we say save them try and turn them in to pets! Do you people know how DANGEROUS these dogs are? To think if one of these trained killers ( no fault to thiers only the dumb humans who made them that way!) attacks a child or another persons beloved pet would be horrible! What if it happened to you or some one you know, you would want that dog put down ASP! Its not a fair soultion but its the safest one. These beautiful dogs whom Vicks was sooo cruel to only know one thing and that is to fight and kill, you can not take these dogs and make safe and happy pets out of them, they can not be trusted around other dogs, cats, and children. I am a huge dog lover of all breeds and I truly belive there are no bad dogs just bad owners! If the dog wasnt brought up with love and kindness and proper socialzation NO matter what the breed or size the dog. It is going to be a danger to people and other animals. Spaying and neutering your pets helps cut down the amounts in the shelters so be responsabile. And dont be so short to say animal shelters are cruel to keep dogs in cages. There are lots that have special play areas for them to run and be free. If there werent animal shelters where would all those dogs and cats go. Left on the streets being hit by cars, being tortured by stupid people, being used as pitbull bait for fighting rings? sorry I rather see an animal humanely put to sleep then think about all the rotten things that can and do happen to animals with no place to go!!Last but not least I understand all the wants for saving Vicks dogs but in all truthfullness some may be able to live a happier life in the right home but again you are taking on a huge risk.

Posted by: Trey | September 7, 2007 11:38 PM

I also have read all of the posted comments. I like to see that there are soo many people that love animals as I do.
I worked at a humane shelter, we had this one dog come in and he was ok at first. But then we had to have a behaviouralist come in and we would try with him for long periods. (We were a shelter that does not euthanize to make room, all animals would stay, unless they were very sick or Behaviour problems.) Sometimes he was great, some times he was bad. But we gave this poor dog 2 months, a girl from work took him home and he was still them same. He cornered her in her house and now she has severe nerve damage in her arm and leg.
What I am getting at is, it would be a good idea to have a behaviouralist come in. But say after 1 month and nothing is changing, then Euthanize the animal. But also to keep them caged up, they are just more angry. And with people like vick doing that to those dogs,Honestly in my opinion those dogs could turn on you in a sec. They have been abused by people since they were pups, do you honestly think that all animals will forgive and forget! I think some would, but what about the others? I am against euthanzing animals. But if everything else has failed, then do it,,,,give them one chance.

Posted by: Alicia | September 10, 2007 01:26 AM

Jen,
If you are ever by Philadelphia, please come by my house and meet my rescue dog Moly. She was an abused fighting dog. Her face is painted with scars, her tooth was broken in half, her earwas cut, and had punture marks on her legs I can't count. And you will see how SWEET & LOVING a X-FIGHTING dog can become when given the right home. She visits nursing homes and sleeps with my cat. She plays with my Shepherd but hates other dogs. I will never take her to a dog park nor off lead as I love her too much to get hurt. I was able to pull her from a shelter thanks to a volunteer. They only kept her for her to nurse her litter but the volunteer fell for her eyes and convinced the shelter staff to evaluate Molly and she passed with FLYING COLORS! EVERY dog needs a chance.

Posted by: Gina | September 12, 2007 12:31 PM

AS A PIBULL OWNER MYSELF, I FEEL THAT THE STEROTYPE OF THEM BEING "EVIL" AND "UNADOPTABLE" IS RIDICULOUS. HOWEVER IN THIS CASE IT MIGHT BE TRUE, THESE POOR DOGS HAVE BEEN TRAINED FOR THIS THEIR WHOLE LIVES AND DONT KNOW ANYTHING ELSE. BUT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE THE TIME TO TRY AND HELP CHANGE THEM THEN WHY NOT LET THEM TRY. M. VICK IS A HORRIBLE PERSON AND KARMA IS A BIT*CH. FOR ALL THE PEOPLE SAYING THAT THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH RACE, AND ARE COMPARING WHAT HE DOES WITH HUNTING YOU ARE IGNORANT. HOW CAN YOU EVEN COMPARE HUNTING WITH DOG FIGHTING AND I BET 95 % OF YOU EAT MEAT SO WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A DOG FIGHT? I THINK YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN READ WHAT YOU JUST WROTE, THINK ABOUT IT REAL HARD, AND IF YOU DONT FEEL STUPID WELL......THERES NO HOPE FOR YOU.

Posted by: WHITNEY | September 13, 2007 12:44 PM

TO THE COMMENT ABOUT HUNTING PLEASE BE REAL ITS A STUPID DOG WHO CARES,PEOPLE LET DOGS STAY IN THE BED,KISS THEM IN THE MOUTH AFTER THEY (DOGS)LIKE THEIR PRIVITE PARTS VERY CLEAN HUH!HUNTING IS CRUEL BULL FIGHTING IS CRUEL ITS JUST OK TO DO AND EXCEPTED BY WHITE AMERICIA,PEOPLE KILL EACH OTHER AND GET LESS TIME,IM SICK OF WHITE AMERICA TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR SELF HELP THE HOMELESS,EXPLOTIED KIDS,RAPE VICTIMS GIVE HIM A FINE AND MOVE ON...

Posted by: WILLIS BALLOU | September 13, 2007 01:15 PM

EVERY ONE ON THIS BLOG IF YOU HAVE BEEN PERFECT YOUR ENTIRE LIFE NEVER THOUGHT A BAD THOUGHT,CUT SOMEONE OFF WHILE DRIVING,DO YOU GET WHERE IM GOING NONE OF YOU AND I MEAN NONE OF YOU ARE PERFECT,TALK ABOUT KARMA LOOK AT YOURSELF

Posted by: WILLIS BALLOU | September 13, 2007 01:24 PM

I HAVE AN IDEA...WHICH I BELIEVE THIS IN ALL CASES OF CRUELTY WHETHER IT BE RAPE, MURDER, DOMESTIC ABUSE, ETC... CHAIN VICK UP AND ALL PEOPLE LIKE HIM...STARVE, BEAT AND MAKE THEM FIGHT FOR THEIR LIFE..WE'RE IN THE U.S.A. SO OBVIOUSELY THAT WON'T HAPPEN BUT IT SEEMS FAIR...I AM AN OWNER OF TWO MAGNIFICENT PIT BULLS AND EVERYDAY I HAVE TO UPHOLD THEIR REPUTATION WHICH I AM PROUD TO DO BUT PEOPLE THAT CONTINUE TO THINK THAT THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY IS OK MAKES IT HARDER FOR ALL OF US THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERS... WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE THAT SEND TO ALL THE YOUNG ADULTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT MAY SEE THIS AS A SOCIAL EVENT OR AN EASY WAY TO GET MONEY...IT'S ABSOLUTELY DISGUISTING THAT SUCH A TALENTED FULL OF POTENTIAL ATHLETE WOULD LOWER HIMSELF TO THIS AND SOMEONE THAT SHOULD AND CAN BE SUCH A POSITIVE ROLE MODEL TO SOCIETY IS AN ABSOLUTE DISSAPOINTMENT.

Posted by: JOY | September 13, 2007 11:01 PM

to keith:

correct you are: I beleive hunters should be condemned to live the same cruelty they have given animals! Including the agonizing death these innocent animals endure during these vicous hunts called " a sport" ( since when is murder a sport? is rape a sport then ? ) I am currently only in high school but beleive you me I will spend the rest of my life trying to end hunting, the slaughter of animals for meat, and other animal cruelty!

as for michael vick he needs to stop with the "I'm sorry's and donate atleast $10 million to stop the cruel treatment towards animals, become a vegetarian, wear no animal skin and support PETA to get my forgiveness!!!! He deserves to rot in jail! In fact we should stick him in Iraq alone and have to fight for his life like those innocent dogs! Then if he loses a battle we will electrocute and drown him.

Sounds fair to me!

Posted by: heather | September 14, 2007 12:59 PM

BLACK PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE PETA TO BE "RACISTS" PLEASE READ BELOW:

ok i need to address all of you people that are implying that PETA is a "racist organization" for blasting mike vick over his barbaric mutilation of animals. first of all whether you are white, black, green or blue- to do what he did was a disgrace, and an embarassment to the NFL and the entire world. thousands of pitbulls die every year, and PETA, as well as hundreds of other organizations desperatly fight this rediculous ring of death. it doesnt matter that michael vick is black, honestly no one really gives a shit about race. it is 2007 and you people need to stop playing the racism card- trust me its played out and old. no one cares about white vs. black. shit everyone dates everyone. black people have a significant role in the U.S now and this is a new generation. we arent in the 50's and 60's anymore. jesus christ fucking let it be. everyone is equal so let me put an end to you poor people that have nothing better to do with yourselves then dwell on the past. GET OVER IT. the rest of the world did. ill tell you what, steve young could have done the same crime (except he is a man with morals) and would be paying for the exact same time as michael vick. yes- steve young is WHITE. OOOHH i said it. it wouldnt change the fact that when you MURDER INNOCENT ANIMALS for enjoyment there is something really wrong inside your brain. to watch an animal bleed to death infront of your own very eyes, and ENJOY IT?! you need some mental assistance- please look up a local mental institution and have your self checked because that is PSYCHOTIC! im sorry, but if you are one of the biggest (highest paid) role models in the NFL, for children everywhere- it is your obligation to maintain high standards. when any player, or anyone for that matter is in the PUBLIC EYE, you sell yourself to the world. you give away many rights that private citizens take advantage of everyday. when you are as wealthy and famous as michael vick, there shouldnt be a need to look elsewhere for entertainment- as to brutally kill animals. how does a 10 year old portray that? wow my hero kills dogs, and one looked like the one i have. you people dont think. he was a hero, who has now tainted and destroyed childrens perceptions. he is not a hero anymore, he is the jerk who MURDERED PUPPIES. HOW CAN A KID THINK THAT IS ACCEPTABLE? HOW CAN ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER? those poor dogs didnt ask for this. they were not put on this earth to be used as a gambling tool in someones sick sadistic attempt to be satisfied. come on people, this isnt about racism. its about people in general who honestly need to stop hurting these animals who can not fight back. dogs, cats, deer, cows, pigs and all other innocent animals DO NOT HAVE GUNS TO FIGHT BACK . how big do you feel to kill something defenseless? its like killing an infant child. it really is. A LIFE IS A LIFE. reguardless whether it be an animal or a human. no one in this world wants to die. everything on this earth feels pain. come on guys think about it for a minute. a dog feels just as much pain as we do. why force the infliction on them. it isnt fair. so basicallyy if you give 2 children guns to shoot each other- omg thats obsurd and unbelievable-however to force 2 dogs to maul each other- until death? and allow its trusted owner to force electroction, and dragging and hanging?? accepted.?? what is wrong with society today? people please wake up and realize that animal cruelty is exactly that, CRUELTY. white or black - child or dog- accept and love all life. not just your own. this racist shit needs to stop.. people. think about all the pets you had over your life, it it ever occured to you to kill them, put them in microwaves, shoot or run them over, you have severe mental issues and need help. animals are not born evil. its people who have destroyed all of these poor animals in the world. blame michael vick for this, and blame everyone else who had the power to stop this and allowed this monstrocity to continue. do not ever mock PETA for trying its best to save millions of animals. you need to wake up and realize that everyone needs to step back and fight for animals because guess what america, they cant fight back. they cant talk or use weapons. we as humans have found a way to cheat the system. weapons were an invention, not nature. mike vick is a disgraceful person who, just like anyone else when found guilty of this horrific crime, will pay the price white or black.

Posted by: pamandersonlover | September 16, 2007 08:59 PM

thats to much reading

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2007 01:32 PM

MICHAL VICK SHOULD BE PROSACUTED FOR DOG FIGTING

Posted by: ja321t | September 18, 2007 05:51 PM

Never mind he let them fight it is so horrible to know what he did to them if they didn't win. He is unhuman.

Posted by: sarah wildman | September 18, 2007 06:32 PM

I'm sorry if I wrote too much down except that *peta pan retard*
had me so pissed off with his ignorance.but I did prove like a million points. You lose peta pan. If you want to fight in a war go to Iraq. Not here.

Posted by: pamandersonlover | September 18, 2007 08:46 PM

why is it that you can continue to let people respond to what i say but you won't let me voice my opinion.

Posted by: peter-pan | September 19, 2007 09:47 PM

why can't i continue to voice my opinion, is it because you don't want to hear the truth.

its okay for them to respond to me but its not okay for me to respond back. its that the way peta truly operates.

i'll just send e-mails out to everyone on myspace and let them know that peta has pity for whites and dogs only.

Posted by: peter-pan | September 19, 2007 09:55 PM

sometimes people can be so blind, it is what it is these dogs are viscious and nobody loves these animals like me at least thats how i feel i love animals all aspecially dogs i used to have lots of pitt bulls never even a single growl out of them to anyone just like all animals if raised from a pup or a baby with kindness and proper traning the will be gentle but all are not and the fear is real being a lover of all animals aspecially pitts since i always had them even i fear them for what people are making them become it is not their fault but still i cringe at what they are acapable of i have 3 small children i wanted a dog i wanted a pitt bull but i chose not too because im afraid and i never used to be it upsets me people like vick worthless space of life to me what he did to those dogs will make me forever dream of how even though he is being charged he to will will not be brought to proper justic its people like him that are and should be at fault for our iniocent children minding their own buisness are mouled to death by dogs like that who get lose imagine it your child those of you who say you can save those dogs your tottaly fucking stupid the damage is done and if they live someone elses inniocent child could die, i love animals with all my heart but sometimes in curtain cases you have to know when nothing can be done and maybe partially it is a money issue for curtain animal groups which damn them if it is the case but seriously pittbulls used for fighting their whole lives like vicks dogs there is no hope their can only be pain from this it is nbot fare to put them back into society someones precious child could painfully die from this and all you people so opionionated about it in a negative what if it was your baby! seriously those dogs will continue to kill and not just because they are pittbulls but because it is what they were painfully tortured and trained to do they cannot be saved it is too late and even if they are saved one day they will have a painfull flash back just as people do and what if your child just so happenes to be in that room and she takes her or his last breaths of life sufering from a pain you could never imagine its not fare i love dogs but they will kill again if saved its not their fault but why pravoke it?????????????

Posted by: amanda | September 20, 2007 01:23 AM

Hi, Peter-Pan. I stopped publishing your comments because they were abusive and unproductive. Anyone is welcome to post a dissenting opinion in this forum, but if you want to do so, you will do it courteously, rationally, and with respect for the other commenters.

-Jack

Posted by: Jack | September 20, 2007 10:57 AM

Peter pan. Don't you think you have voiced enough opinions by calling people dirty names and acting irrational on here? Its one thing to have an opinion but to turn around and call these girls what you did diminishes your right to even post 3 sentences on here.

I'm sorry but I don't empathize with ignorant people.

Posted by: pamandersonlover | September 20, 2007 11:12 AM

Those poor dogs are attacking people everyday just open a newspaper and read sometime, pitbulls don't deserve any sympathy. They are vicious beast that will turn on there masters and children, check the records! You people make me sick get a life or better yet have some kids and start fighting for the human race because those are the people that need saving not some mammals that pisses and shits everywhere!Why don't you protest these human Society shelters that kill animals everyday because they don't have the room for them, what kind of double standard is that a death is a death just like a lie is a lie. There is no other way to spin it! You people are the murderers you kill more dogs then the general population does so what gives you the right not to be judged for your crimes against animals!

Posted by: jerome Lardy | September 20, 2007 03:17 PM

I read these comments and people need to realize these pit bulls were bred and trained to do 1 thing KILL and that is bred into them it isnt something that can be trained back out of them.I think the most humane thing for these dogs is euthanasia. they cannot be rehabilitated. As for Michael Vick and all the other dog fight lovers should all be sent away better yet why not put them in a ring and fight one another till one ends up dead.

Posted by: susan greer | September 22, 2007 02:10 PM

I have been reading these e-mails and cannot belive that this became a black and white issue. This isn't about the color or race folks. This is about MV did something illegal, inhumane and barbaric and needs to go to jail.It is as simple is that. Animal rights isn't only about Vick and we now that. And Keith I think you are full of crap for viewing the whole situation from your narrow perspective.What have you done for animals so far? You should try to contribute instead of lecturing people. It really helps. Those dogs shouldn't be killed and deserve a chance. There has to be some sort of rehab center for them to recover. Just like the ones for people with addiction or other problems.

Posted by: Begum Ozbek | September 23, 2007 10:14 PM

I agree the dogs should be tested for temperment, and the ones that do pass should be offered for adoption, but for the ones that do not pass (most likely 99%) they sadly have no other realistic fate than to be sleep. and rehibilitating them? how many other fighting dogs get rehibilitated? i feel a bit of celebritizing.

Pitbulls arnt the problem its idiots like vick who want to fight them. Racism isnt the issue here, every point that has been made has been irrevivant, and far from accurate.

just a tip but do research before stating "your opinions"

Posted by: Brett | September 24, 2007 08:18 AM

to start off i would never own a pit bull. but im against stereotyping.

yes pitbulls were bred to bear bait/fight. but its not exactly in theyre nature (appearance is what reflects, not nature of the animal). if it were why would vick and the countless other maniacs have to kill the ones that wont fight?

if treated with love and care a pit will act as if any other dog. ive seen so alot of them that are great with kids, and arnt anything but big babies.

Posted by: Brett | September 24, 2007 08:26 AM

To those making the Vick indictment a race issue, SHAME ON YOU! This is about the animals that he helped electrocute, hang, drown and god knows what else. Funding it or doing it himself - he is guilty of cruelty to animals. Additionally, comparing dogfighting to that of horse racing or hunting (although I don't condone either), etc is assinine and ignorant. Race horses are not tortured when they lose, and atleast hunted animals are killed instantly. Remember, Vick'S associates ELECTROCUTED, HANGED, MUTILATED, AND SLAMMED these dogs to death.

SHAME on you for making this a race issue. Get a grip.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2007 03:56 PM

I love all of these ignorant comments by people who have never worked around pit bulls. These dogs are capable of legendary loyalty and love for humans- many save humans in SAR programs nationwide. Rehabilitation is possible for animals; it just requires time and patience. If these were beagles and not pit bulls PETA would be all over rescuing these dogs.

If only we would try and return the love and devotion that dogs show us, regardless of their breed and regardless of whatever perverse purpose man has set them to in the past.

Posted by: Coyote | September 24, 2007 07:47 PM

jack,

i wrote about the lady that had to through her precious little baby in the trash can to keep a pitbull from chewing him into pieces, instead of her letting the dog eat her baby, she had to endure the pain of thst vicious dog eating her flesh but you wouldn't post that why?

why haven't their been any talk about that. i thought that would be what peta would be about also, not just protecting dogs but people too, especially children, from these viscous monsters.

to all of you that think i'm living in the past about racism, get over it, because look at what happened after KATRINA, and what is going on in JENA, LOUISIANA, and THE MICHAEL VICKS, ALL OVER THE WORLD, it is self explainatory that racism is rising, but its okay because we know who has all power in his hands and believe me, it sure as hell isn't you.

I HATE WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE DOGS, BUT ITS BEEN GOING ON BEFORE THE BLACK MAN KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

Posted by: peter-pan | September 24, 2007 11:08 PM

to pam anderson's lover

i only called those women names because they were calling me stupid and all other things that were discusting. that's why i responded that way. so don't called me ignorant because of my comments towards those people, i know i did push it but they went to far also.

i do apologize for being disrespectful, but i had the right to say that it is a racist issue regarding mike.

i said it then and i say it now that those dogs were trained by white people a long time ago, way before blacks knew anything about it so why be so harsh towards m. vick about a vicious breed of dogs that had already been trained to be that way.

m. vick is being attack because of the color of his skin and because he is the richest black man in Atlanta and you know you can't stand it because he was getting it honestly, not like yall stealing and taking it dishonestly.

Posted by: peter-pan | September 25, 2007 11:21 AM

If it is a racist issue, then the problem is a with an entire race. That is not the case. We are dealing with a self-absorbed idiot who wishes to see life destroy itself in front of his eyes. The man guilty for this deserves no forgiveness, and I hope to see him prosecuted to the fullest. Those without respect for life should be disciplined to the fullest. I hope he suffers greatly, emotionally or otherwise.

Posted by: Joshua Harman | September 26, 2007 05:05 AM

even if mike did it, he still deserves to be forgiven. just for you to say that he doesn't is sad because GOD has already forgiven him. hasn't he forgiven you for things you've done and is still doing. all sin is rated the same so if GOD forgives him, why in the world wouldn't you.

and why put animals before people. these are not poodles we are talking about, these are killers of human beings.

m. vick is not the person that you petray him to be. we all have issues because no body is perfect, so get over it and move on to things that are more important than this.

peta, lets take action on people killing alligators for their skin, bears, foxes, sheep, tigers, and other animals for their fur, even dogs. elephants are one of the smartest animals their is, and they are killing them to make ivory out of their tusk, come on get real people, this is more heartbreaking than pitbulls being tortured. they are on t.v. shooting and killing birds, deers, and other animals for a sport. i don't see nowhere in the bible where it says that dogs are more important than the other animals, so come on lets fight for all of them peta.

now what i have read in the bible is not to feed a dog scraps from your table so lets put a end to it people and treat dogs like dogs.

m. vick may have to go to prison for a while, its okay if he does, but one thing i know is that he will come back stronger than before, because he is a strong and powerful good black man and you will not be able to take that away from him, believe it..............REMEMBER HE LED AN ENTIRE FOOTBALL TEAM, WITH THEIR ASSISTANCE BUT THAT REALLY MADE HIM EXTRA SPECIAL.

Posted by: peta-pan | September 26, 2007 02:57 PM

THIS MANN IS GUILTYY!!...... hes stupid,, barbaric idiot that needs to get a life !!

Posted by: AAIRHEAD445 | September 26, 2007 07:38 PM

i think it is sad and unfortunate that these dogs have to die because of what people trained them to do. i have two adopted pitbulls, and one was used for dog fighting and was considered "unadoptable". sure enough, this dog that was considered human and animal aggressive was able to be rehabilitated as i'm sure some or all of these dogs are..people just don't want to spend the time and money it takes to rehabilitate these dogs! its so sad..pitbulls deserve a chance..they were never interested in really fighting, they were forced to and we can change that.

Posted by: kate | September 27, 2007 02:06 PM

awwwe thats so sad why would he do such a cruel thing to dogs jeez what and assshole

Posted by: Miranda | September 28, 2007 11:49 PM

who gives a Da*m if he lead a great football career... if i was a serial killer but i was a pro football player should i be forgiven or let off the hook?

how are pit bulls killer of human beings? unless they are raised in this barbaric way they are dogs... just that ordinary dogs

from my knowledge (im not part of peta) peta is against killing of animals in every way. you my friend are nothing but a ignorant michael vick fan, and you need to do research before posting somthing you do not know anything about. the only argument i can see is that he is insane... anyone who can watch 2 dogs rip each other apart and find enjoyment out of it is INSANE.

Ff it was a white man the circum stances would be the exact same. stoping pulling that card it may have had its relevance 50 years or so ago but living in this day age and time it doesnt. i am against racism and i think all the pain and suffering that african americans had to endure was barbaric and untolerable...

as for the lady who through her baby into a trash can... we arnt agreeing with that the dog should have been put to sleep if it were that aggressive

Posted by: Anonymous | September 29, 2007 01:13 PM

aairhead445
if m. vick is an idiot and stupid, then what is dick chaney and george bush.

Posted by: peta-pan | October 1, 2007 07:10 PM

Holy Moley.... lots of different opinions. Lots of anger, lots of hate. I kinda like the idea of making Michael Vick build a lovely confortable kennel for these dogs, hire good folks to care for them. It could cost him millions. Perhaps he could provide room in his Kennel for other fighting dogs that have been rescued. Yep, that's what I think. Mike Vick's PETA Kennel for Former Fighting Dogs. MVPETAKFFFD

It could be in Virginia. They could even convert the old awful kennel. Thanks for creating a place for me to express my opinion. PETA, you do great work.

Posted by: Jeudi | October 2, 2007 06:42 PM

I think that PETA should get in touch with the Dog Whisperer (Cesar Milan) from the National Geographic Channel. He may be able to rehabilitate some these dogs, and possibly let them join his "pack" at his Los Angeles Dog Phycology Center. He may do it. you got to admit it would make for several very interesting shows!

Posted by: Peg | October 2, 2007 07:03 PM

I see too many side-tracked issues here. Return and focus on the issue of the dogs that are now hanging in a balance. The fate of these dogs is a difficult decision, but anyone who thinks Peta takes this matter lightly is deserving of the darwin award.

As animals can heal better than humans, these dogs may have chance. I would sugget Peta get in touch with Cesar Milan. He knows pit bulls and red zone dogs very well. I would value his assessment above all others. He has the insight most people do not have.

BTW- peta-pan(peter-pan) you need a good time-out. Lay down your sword and rancor. You seem so full of anger and hatred and it blinds you. You are totally wrong about Peta, and perhaps you need to attend their empathy course. Hopefully you are right and Vic comes out stronger. Stronger because he has come to see the horror of his actions and how these dogs and all creatures deserve respect and care. Perhaps Vick's biggest problem was he never was taught to provide such respect for animals. Perhaps he was taught not to care or even know that others cared that much, but now he knows and the message should go out to other promotors.

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated” -Ghandi

Posted by: Basia | October 2, 2007 07:41 PM

I agree with those who wrote to say that M. Vick should provide for these dogs. They deserve a chance for happiness and to say to kill them is taking the easy way out. M. Vick has enough money and I read several good suggestions here on how that money can help those poor dogs live out their life under spervision in a secluded, well protected piece of property. If he is truely sorry, he should be given the opportunity to help these dogs who he so horreendusly tortured. SHAME ON YOU PETA FOR NOT COMING UP WITH SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS GIVEN HERE FOR GIVING THE DOGS A CHANCE AT LIFE.

Posted by: Millie Poliakoff | October 3, 2007 07:40 PM

I hate michael vick and feel that the only just punishment is for him to never be allowed back in the NFL and maybe to have to work in a kennel for the rest of his life cleaning up after the dogs

Posted by: J | October 4, 2007 07:46 PM

I hope PETA is ashamed for calling for the killing of the Vick dogs. ASPCA and a team of behaviorists found 48 of the 49 able to live out happy lives in law enforcement, adopted by experts at handling them or shelters. PETA won't see a penny from me till you apologize publicly for the idiocy and cruelty you espoused. Thank God for the caring adults at ASPCA, BADRAP and Best Friends.
Who thinks shelters have cages ? Maybe some antiquated ones. No-kill shelters are blossoming all over the world, staffed by saintly caring people who give the animals a happy life. Check out www.bestfriends.org where most of my financial support goes.
Euthanasia is a euphemism. It is murder = killing !
Best friends sanctuary in Utah is many times more expert than Ceasar the whisperer and much kinder to the animals.
This is not a quantitative issue. Saving the Vick dogs in no way diminishes our energies to save the others languishing in poorly run antiquated "shelters" spay/neuter etc.

Posted by: John T Eyre MD | October 6, 2007 11:26 PM

TO BASIA AND ANONYMOUS,

I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU CONTINOUSLY SAY ITS NOT RACIAL. YOU HAVE ON BLINDERS AND YOU CAN'T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE NOOSES HANGING FROM THE TREES.

LOOK, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE DOGS. OKAY, VICK DID IT, GET OVER IT AND FIND SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT TO DO LIKE HELP THE HOMELESS, AND HELP GO AFTER THESE FREAKS WHO ARE OUT THERE RAPING WOMEN, CHILDREN, AND PRECIOUS INNOCENT BABIES THAT CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES.

I'M NOT ANGRY OR UPSET AT WHITE PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY DID THEN TO BLACK PEOPLE DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, BECAUSE BELIEVE ME THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THEY WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT TODAY. I'M PIST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T FIGHT AGAINST THE PIGS WHEN THEY TORTURED BLACKS WITH DOGS, LET'S NOT FORGET (HUMAN BEINGS NOT ANIMALS)WASN'T THOSE DOGS TRAINED TO DO IT, SO WHY NOW THAT A BLACK MAN SUPPOSEDLY TRAINED THOSE DOGS TO FIGHT ITS A PROBLEM, HELL AT LEASE IT WAS ANOTHER DOG AND NOT HUMANS THAT HE TRAINED THEM TO FIGHT, AND LET'S NOT FORGET, WHITE PEOPLE STARTED THAT SHIT A LONG TIME BEFORE ISRAELITES KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SPORT.

THE REASON THE WORLD IS SO SCREWED UP NOW IS BECAUSE OF YOUR WAYS OF THINKING, AND ESPECIALLY HATRED, SO I DON'T GIVE A FLYING CHICKEN WINGS WHAT YOU SAY IT DOESN'T CHANGED THE FACT THAT YOUR KIND IS LIKE A SNAKE IN THE GRASS, THEY WILL CREEP UP ON YOU UNTIL THEY GET YOU, AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO VICK AND LOTS OTHERS THAT WERE ON TOP.

AND FOR O.J. SIMPSON, IF HE DID IT SO WHAT IT CANT COUNT FOR ALL THE SHIT YALL DONE AND ARE STILL DOING, SO KISS OFF. YOU GOING AFTER HIM LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY THAT NICOLE WERE KILLED. NEVER PROVED HE DID IT, BUT YOU JUST WANT TO HANG HIM FOR IT. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M SORRY IT HAPPENED, BUT AS FAR AS O.J. HE CAN GO TO HELL BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH HIS OWN KIND THEN IF HE KILLED A BLACK WOMAN THEY WOULD HAVE BRUSHED IT UNDER THE RUG BY NOW, BELIEVE IT AND YOU KNOW IT.

AND FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS IM AN IDIOT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THAT TELLS ME A WHOLE LOT ABOUT WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT ORGANIZATION YOU BELONG TO.

MAYBE LOTS OTHER PEOPLE WOULD HAVE MORE SYMPATHY LIKE ME IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME LITTLE OH POODLE OR SOME OTHER LIL SWEET DOG, BUT YOU ARE DEFENDING PITBULLS, AND FOR YALL TO GO AFTER MIKE WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAD TO DESTROY HIM TELLS ME YALL ARE IN THE SAME CATEGORY, VICUOUS AND SNEAKY AND WILL KILL IF GIVEN A CHANCE.I HAVE KNOWN PEOPLE TO BE MURDERD AND DIDN'T GET ANY ATTENTION LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW LIKE ALL THE YOUNG MEN BEING MURDERED AROUND THE WORLD, BY COPS THAT WERE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT YOU, BUT HOW IN THE HELL COULD WE EXPECT THEM TO PROTECT US WHEN THEY WERE THE ONES THAT SICK DOGS ON US.

PAM-ANDERSON LOVER, IM NOT TRYING TO WIN SHIT, IM JUST APOLOGIZE FOR BEING SO RUDE, I GOT CARRIED AWAY BECAUSE OF OTHERS BUT LET ME TELL YOU RETARD. WHO IS PAM ANDERSON, THE ONE WITH THE BIG FAKE TITS AND THE 80 POUND BODY, WHO GIVES A DAM, WHO ARE YOU A WANNA BE ARE SOME KIND OF FREAK THAT IS CHASING PAM. I DONT GIVE A DAM ABOUT YOU ARE YOUR AFFILIATION, ONE WAY ARE ANOTHER. PAM HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHORE MATERIAL TO ME AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT PROBABLY WILL EVER FALL IN LOVE WITH HER, SO STOP TRYING TO HIDE BEHIND HER AND COME OUT OF THE CLOSET, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

Posted by: peta-pan | October 7, 2007 08:33 PM

BASIA AND ANONYMOUS

I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO SAY THIS IS NOT A RACIAL SITUATION WITH MIKE. PLEASE, GIVE ME A BREAK, YOU CAN'T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE NOOSE'S HANGING FROM THE TREES.

LOOK WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE DOGS, OKAY VICK DID IT, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON TO SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT LIKE HELPING THE HOMELESS AND ALSO GO AFTER THE PEDOPHILES WHO ARE RAPING WOMEN, CHILDREN, AND INNOCENT LITTLE BABIES THAT CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES.

I'M NOT ANGRY OR UPSET ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO BLACKS DURING THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT BECAUSE BELIEVE ME, THEIR IS NO WAY IN HELL THEY WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT TODAY. I'M PROBABLY PIST THAT YOU DIDN'T DEFEND BLACKS WHEN THE COPS TORTURED THEM WITH DOGS, LETS NOT FORGET (HUMAN BEINGS NOT ANIMALS) AREN'T HUMANS ABOVE ANIMALS, AND WEREN'T THOSE DOGS TRAINED. SO WHY NOW THAT A BLACK MAN SUPPOSEDLY TRAINED THOSE DOGS TO FIGHT IT IS A PROBLEM, HELL AT LEAST HE TRAINED DOGS TO ATTACK DOGS AND NOT HUMANS, WOULDN'T THAT BE THE MOST HUMANE THING TO DO. WHITES STARTED THAT SPORT LONG AGO BEFORE ISRAELITES KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

AND FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS I'M AND IDIOT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT TELLS ME A LOT ABOUT YOU AND WHAT ORGANIZATION YOU BELONG TO.

Posted by: peta-pan | October 10, 2007 05:53 PM

Thank you for this article. I am very touched by your compassion for the Vick dogs. It's true that they would have a very horrible time if they were to stay alive. And they would be a danger to people and other animals. I'm the owner of an Amstaff and she's very well behaved and sweet but people are still afraid of her, sometimes screaming at us as we walk by (Bella calmly walking with me on a leash mind you). People have good reason to be afraid of the "tough breed" dogs and we shouldn't add to that.
Thank you again for your compassionate article.

Posted by: Emily Iverson | October 11, 2007 01:26 PM

TO ALL OF YOU THAT DISLIKE M. VICK AND HOPES HE NEVER RETURN TO THE NFL. WELL IT WILL BE YOUR LOST BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE. FOR THE ATLANTA FANS, I'M SO SORRY BECAUSE THE FALCONS WILL NEVER BE NOTHING UNTIL
THEY GET ANOTHER VICK.

YOU KNOW EVERYBODY DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE BUT TO MOAN AND GROAN ABOUT SOME DAM PITBULLS JUST MAKE ME WANT TO ASK AGAIN WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE AND WHERE THE HELL DID YOU COME FROM.

YOU TACKLED VICK LIKE YOU WERE A BUNCH OF PITBULLS, BUT WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING WAS GETTING DONATIONS TO GO OUT AND HELP ALL THESE DAM HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT HAS NO WHERE TO GO. THAT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST HUMANE THING TO DO INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER VICK LIKE A BUNCH OF SALTINES.

IF VICK DID WRONG THEN THAT'S GODS JUDGEMENT NOT MAN THAT YOU WOULD ATTACK HIM THE WAY YOU DID, AND THEN HAVE THE ADACITY TO SAY HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE FORGIVEN, GIVE ME A BREAK YOU DEVIL WORSHIPPERS.

THOSE THAT DONT FORGIVE VICK, I HOPE YOUR SOULS REST IN HELL.

Posted by: peta-pan | November 7, 2007 05:11 PM

hi jack,

could you please remove all the other views that i posted because i think its wrong that u only post what you think those assholes will not respond too.

pam andersonlover called me names even after i apologize for my actions, so i responded the only way i wanted and you wouldn't post it but you posted him insulting me, so please remove all of what i have posted and i will not come on peta again. thank you

Posted by: peta-pan | November 9, 2007 12:26 PM

PLEASE, IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO POST MY RESPONSE TO PAM ANDERSON LOVER, REMOVE ALL MY VIEWS IMMEDIATELY.

THANK YOU

Posted by: peta-pan | November 14, 2007 05:15 PM

I see nothing but ignorance in Ingrid Newkirk's remarks - she obviously knows nothing about pit bulls, or animals in general, I fear. There are too many rescue organizations who have had success re-training these dogs for her to just issue them a no-questions-asked death sentence. APBT rescue groups screen owners very carefully - anyone who adopts a dog from a group like BAD RAP is going to be about 10 times more responsible than your average pet owner.
Ingrid, your only hands-on experience with animnals, to my knowledge, is in euthanizing them. Leave it to the experts.

Posted by: Dane Hoover | December 5, 2007 12:22 PM

I think it's funny how quickly PETA has condemned these dogs now that they've made all the money they can off them. First ones out the gate getting press and contributions in their name, first ones to jump off their bandwagon once the well has run dry. They're not useful to the cause anymore so let's have a few staff members kill them and dump their bodies in trashcans, shall we? Very classy.

Posted by: Jennifer | December 6, 2007 12:36 AM

I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THESE DOG ARE 100% SAVING. DOGS THAT WERE USED FOR FIGHTING CAN, AND SHOULD BE REHABILATED. I KNOW I OWN ONE AND HE HAS A BEST FRIEND WHO IS A FEMALE PITT, WHO WAS USED AS A BAIT DOG. SAVE THE PITT!!!

Posted by: JILL | December 26, 2007 04:34 PM

Well as it turns out, BADRAP has rescued all the Vicktims and taken them to their rehab shelter. Two had to be PTS because of injury and illness but the others are doing well.

They are very sweet dogs and one of them-Leo- has passed all his TTs and become a Therapy dog after just TWO MONTHS of training.

Cheers to BADRAP for saving them and JEERS to PETA for advocating their destruction. WTF were you thinking???

Posted by: DoggyDaddy | January 29, 2008 07:26 PM

Ive been reading some of the comments, and cant believe what ive read!? how can anyone be a fan of Vick?are you serious?
This guy is pure evil and so are the people who agree with his actions, what sort of person could watch a dog being brutely killed for fun, for money? I know dogs are not human but they deserve to be treated humanely.

Posted by: Haley | February 26, 2008 06:12 PM