Yes!!! This is great!

Posted by: Iris | August 24, 2007 06:49 PM

bravo.
but,i prefer if NFL use the wording " forever" instead.
vick, u scum, rot in hell.
and to all u dogfighting lovers, we ll go after u no matter where u r.

Posted by: ann | August 24, 2007 07:01 PM

Big Deal.. Just what does that mean?? The commish will let him come back after his jail sentence saying he has paid his debt.. To me this just sounds like an easy way of saying lets wait and see.. I think it would have meant more if the NFL gave him a lifetime ban or a 5 year ban..Something with substance.. Again.. I think this is just an easy way for the commish to skirt the issue.. Lets see what happens..

Posted by: Kerry H | August 24, 2007 07:08 PM

absolutely fantastic news!!!! best I heard in ages!!! but what does suspended indefinitely mean? only until he serves his light sentence?

Posted by: observer | August 24, 2007 07:27 PM

Too bad this all didn't come into the open earlier. The shelter I worked at had lots of fighting pits and everyone just brushed it off as part of the inner city area we were in. That was in 1999!! Where was everyone then??

PETA and PETA alone were speaking out against it much earlier than all this stuff and for that I commend them.

I don't know who's coming out with the Neuter Vick shirts and the Vick chew toys. Although, yes, humorous, I think it's sad to make a joke about this. This dude and others are obviously very very sick and disturbed. Giggling over the whole scenario is kinda gross.

Don't get me wrong, I like to laugh, but we've all focused on this one guy. He's not the only guilty one, although he's probably the richest.

Like it or not some people think there is a racial element and although I don't agree, I think PETA has been very tasteful and has tried to avoid being snide about the whole thing, and I appreciate it.

Good job all around, PETA. Blessings to all those poor dogs.

Posted by: Maya | August 24, 2007 07:36 PM

ann and Kerry H

I agree. I also would have liked a permanent ban for Vick. Deplorable!! We will have to wait and see how this all develops.

Posted by: Ana | August 24, 2007 07:47 PM

Michael Vick needs to be banned FOREVER!!!!! May he rot in hell, along with DMX!

Those of you who think you can get away with hurting these animals? May there be a special HELL for you!

Posted by: S. Maurer | August 24, 2007 07:57 PM

I think that sending michael vick to jail is just, a couple of months, that should be enough. However I think the news media and Peta have gone beyong making to make their point against Vick. Remember in the eyes of many dogfighting is as normal as watching a boxing match. So to me this society is being hyprocritical it allows humans to fight one another close to death but not dogs. Now you may argue he also participated in the killing of a lot of these dogs. Yes that is true. But this is a subculture, this man was raised in an environment that a lot you would'nt beging to understand. He is as much a victim as the dogs he himself killed. He was failed by his educators and Society as a whole. You all are jumping on the bandwagon like this was a lynching. I think he deserves a chance at his career after all its NFL a violent sport just like boxing or dogfighting. And wether individuals who would condone all of these so called sports, to some it's entertaning and in most cases very legal. It just shows the system is there to serve the powerful "men" it's too bad michael vick was not your typical rich white guy who's been polished and taught to clean up his tracks.

Have a great weekend

By the way I would never hurt a dog or do I condone what happened.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 24, 2007 08:15 PM

If Barry Bonds thought he endured volatile crowds, wait until when and if this complete "loser" ever plays in front of a live NFL crowd again -- no matter what the NFL decides, this guys is done. The good people of the US of A will never forget what this low-life did to "man's best friend!"

Posted by: F.A. McMullin | August 24, 2007 08:35 PM

Now lets just keep hoping they will change that to forever. And lets hope that Virginia decides to charge him with things as well!! So far it looks like he's not even getting any prison time, which makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Wendy | August 24, 2007 08:41 PM

I just hope that people realize he is getting his just due. He made a mistake, he is paying for it. So I would hope that would be enough. If I remember correctly, Leonard Little killed a woman and was allowed a second chance. Does anyone at PETA know about Leonard Little, or Ray Lewis for that matter? Let's not pick and choose our fights so easily, especially when it is a fact that some members of PETA are convicted felons themselves. And I'm not talking about the celebrities, either. I am talking about these high priced board members. But, to alot of people this was just the last straw. I have a feeling PETA is in for a rude awakening, and sad to say it has been a long time coming.

Posted by: Anthony A | August 24, 2007 08:48 PM

I agree the NFL should ban Vick for life. All other professional sports should follow suit.

The main point is just how long is Vick going to serve in jail for the crimes he's committed?

Also, PETA should post all cases and locations of on going investigations of dogfighting so that people can complain and state their opions directly to the jurisdictions where the cases are being heard.

Posted by: JetP | August 24, 2007 08:58 PM

Way to go!!!! He should have everything taken away from him like he did to those poor animals!!!

Posted by: Andrea | August 24, 2007 09:05 PM

No Silly it means now the Falcons can go collect 22 million dollars from Michael Vick thats better than any stupid plea bargin if you ask me!

I agree BRAVO!!!

Posted by: John Swan | August 24, 2007 09:09 PM

you know - I agree with all of you that say this is too little - just an 'indefinite ban' leaves a door open. But at least it is a step in the right direction. Baby steps will all come together and change the world, right? That SOB should be hanged and drowned just like the dogs he punished for not being 'good enough', but because karma has not caught up with everyone yet, I'm thankful that the nfl has at least taken steps to tell it's fans that this is NOT ok. Anything to make people wake up and see that animal cruelty is absolutely not acceptable, no matter who you are or how much money you make.

Posted by: Christine | August 24, 2007 10:13 PM

the sub animal vick ought to be confined where he would never again see the light of day.

insecure ignorance as the sub animal vick has expressed needs to be removed from the gene pool.

wLa2

Posted by: W L Adams II | August 24, 2007 10:56 PM

I'm happy the NFL took a good stand against this terrible shame. However, the fact that it took them so long, well, I still remained "changed" by Vick and the NFL. I'm in no hurry to buy shirts anymore...let's just say that.

Posted by: James | August 24, 2007 10:58 PM

I'm happy the NFL took a good stand against this terrible shame. However, the fact that it took them so long, well, I still remained "changed" by Vick and the NFL. I'm in no hurry to buy shirts anymore...let's just say that.

Posted by: James | August 24, 2007 10:58 PM

I'm a great supporter of PETA and its aims and join with every moral human being in celebrating the fall of Micheal Vick. Unfortunately, by partnering with Amazon.com through the PETA mall I'm afraid you are acting a bit hypocritically. Taking donations from a company which openly sells products which promote animal blood sports is akin to condemning Michael Vick, then having him as the guest of honor at the annual fundraising banquet. Perhaps I've missed it, though that is hard to believe considering your Web site links directly to Amazon, but where is PETA's outrage at this tremendous injustice? What work have or will you do to shed light on this, even if it might mean losing a few bucks?

Again, I think PETA is an amazing organization and the world is better for its existence. I just thought this was a worthwhile point and was hoping by posting that someone at PETA will be made aware of what Amazon calls "free speech" and help in righting a horrific wrong....or at the very least correcting me if this is indeed a misunderstanding.

Posted by: bill waters | August 24, 2007 11:11 PM

I am glad to see the NFL suspend Vick. I only hope it becomes permanent. I am upset that Virginia Tech,will not relinquish their ties to this monster. The school has a hall in their athletic dept named in his honor. WHy??? Why would an upstanding school like Va Tech want to continue to be associated with the likes of Vick..Furthermore, he does not deserve to be honored in any way. Hope he rots in Hell!!!

Posted by: Stefie | August 24, 2007 11:20 PM

1 Year in Jail is an insult. Vick personally took part in torture and murder of 8 dogs. Indirectly responsible for the 50+ dog that will soon die. BRING ANIMAL CRUELTY CHARGES LOCALLY VA!! The world is watching. Is this, 1 year, what others can expect??? Not a deterant

Posted by: Michael Roescher | August 24, 2007 11:46 PM

Hi! I am very happy to hear that Vick is suffering real consequences. Yes, I think this does have an effect. This is better than nothing...do you realize that the NFL could have remained silent? Now, we don't know the motivation, and really who cares- the bottom line is that if this stops one young man who hopes to hit the NFL from engaging in this disgusting stuff b/c he thinks it might out his future in jeopardy- well RIGHT ON! And no, I'm not an animal zealot or anything but those of us who have dogs (yea, pugs!) and see the unconditional love HATE DOGFIGHTERS!!! And yes, I'm African American so please don't pull the race card. God Bless those Pits and I hope Vick will have time to ponder what he did- IN JAIL!!!

Posted by: Shana | August 25, 2007 12:33 AM

webmaster, that's "put" not "out"....thanks!

Posted by: Shana | August 25, 2007 12:37 AM

Hope ur happy, now go get a LIFE!!!!

Posted by: jeffrey vick | August 25, 2007 01:15 AM

Rapper DMX's house in Arizona was raided on Friday.
Police found 17 pit bulls, in very bad condition, without food or water, tied around some bushs under 110 degree temperature (az is hot, hot, hot, these days).
The police also found a few dog's body buried near by, some are burned beyond recognition too.
The rapper/his lawyer said his " care taker" didn't show up do his job and he (DMX) just LOVE his dogs.
Ya, right, if he loves his dogs,then Hitler must love the Jews.
Who does he think we are? moron like him?
Lets see what happens in the next few months, i think the authority FIANLLY is going to do something about dogfighting now.

Posted by: ann | August 25, 2007 02:33 AM

If Vicks & his ilk treat dogs ( & KITTENS!) in this barbaric , neanderthal way, might there also be some history of (human) sexual abuse here?

Personally, I think that American football is as brutish as dog-fighting, so this doesn't really surprise me as much as it disgusts me.

Posted by: Renfreu Neff | August 25, 2007 03:38 AM

I think Vick should donate 10 million dollars to PETA as a sign of good faith.

Posted by: Brian | August 25, 2007 05:30 AM

I think we need to come together and make sure that they ban Vick for good. The NFL has to realize that the fans will not support this kind of abuse. What kind of role model is he? He is a horrible human being.

Posted by: Kimberly Feehan-Ponte | August 25, 2007 07:34 AM

(1)What other people have you gone after?
(2)How many convictions for dog fighting?
(3)How long were they sent to jail?
(4)Where can I find these facts?

I'm looking for statistical data, so your help will be greatly appreciated!

Posted by: Genie | August 25, 2007 08:19 AM

Boycott the Tom Joyner Morning Show..If in fact Vick does appear.. Do not give this vile creature a forum to lie..The only thing he is sorry for is that he got caught and lost his superstar status...

Posted by: Kerry H | August 25, 2007 08:25 AM

If this act against animals perpetraited by a human being, NOT a black man is allowed to be swept under the rug by the mainsteam media whos profits grow larger and larger on the torn backs of these helpless dogs we are done as a HUMAN RACE. I watch some of these videos and the thing that is missed is while not knowing they have yet to please Vicks whims for sucsess in the ring thier tails continue to wag in an effort to remind him they are in love with us and rely on us HUMANS to care for them. IM sick and this MAN needs to be the poster child for HUMANS behaving badly. FOR EVER. ten years from now we should still be talking about this CRIME aqainst everything that is good in this world.

Posted by: terrence | August 25, 2007 08:33 AM

I agree with Kerry, sounds like a loophole after everything blows over. I will be writing the NFL to request clarification. Also, it will be interesting to see if Arthur Blank sues Vick for breach of contract, and to get the $22 million back on the signing bonus. Then there are the state charges. The statement of facts Vick signed did not give any details of that, but did admit to illegal activities in Virginia. Hopefully, he faces state charges as well.

Posted by: Susan | August 25, 2007 09:09 AM

This is great news but let us not forget all the poor dogs that were seized and will be euthanized because they are unadoptable. Good work Vick you loser.

Posted by: DebbieH | August 25, 2007 09:15 AM

It totally disgusts me that these poor animals are put to sleep, and once this HORRID person is out of jail he will go back to his mansion, maids and money and never think twice about those dogs he tortured and killed. IMO, he should get the same treatment... torture and get rid of him... what makes him or anyone else think that their life is more valueable than an animals??

Posted by: Alexis | August 25, 2007 09:28 AM

anonymous vick was failed by society???? get real!!!! where ever he came from he shot up to being a famous qb and a multimillionaire!!! how about more like sick vick failed society????!!!!! sick vick failed at being a human!!!!

Posted by: observer | August 25, 2007 10:09 AM

When did an animals life become worth more than a human being? Everyone makes mistakes and if we looked into everyone's closets I'm pretty sure we would find skeletons. I'm not saying what Vick did was right, but just on the mere word of individuals who stated they would testify against him (saving themselves) we believed them.

It sounds to me like PETA wants to ruin his life and never allow him to recover. How humane is that?

We have a woman who killed her husband while he slept and she get 67 days you guys want this man to go to jail years for dogs. I don't see the sense in this.

But maybe there's a way to get around this for everyone that wants to condemn Vick and thinks he's the scum of the earth and should rot in hell, let's take into your lives and see if you are without sin or shame and then present this to your employer, family friends and see how you feel. Oh yeah, and then we can say you can longer work in your chosen field and you need to pay back your salary.

Posted by: Tonia | August 25, 2007 10:26 AM

I think you are forgetting something, Vick is black and dog fighting is black culture. If a white guy did this it would be cruel and he should get jail time, but Vick is black. Funny how people were not horrified when Rodney King was beaten silly, worse than any dog in the streets of LA 17 years ago. You get more upset over a dog fight that is cultural than over a black man's attempted murder.

Posted by: Douginsocal | August 25, 2007 10:50 AM

PETA is an organization that makes me very sick. You post videos and pictures of animal cruelty and show it all day long on t.v. But you love animals so much. You can watch the cruelty but be against it? Secondly, VICK ISNT THE FIRST ONE THE ONLY ONE OR THE LAST ONE. Just ask for money like you do everyone else and let the man go. What he did had nothing to do with his career and it dosent man that the NFL condones it. Neither do I. There are more important battles that PETA should be fighting than a NFL player you just so happen to hate. Spend yourtime on more important cases and leave the boy alone. Why dont you attack Paris Hilton for driving underthe influence with all those dogs in the car? she could have killed them? Why arent you guys standing up for matters pertainingto our children a.k.a OUR FUTURE? We have to take care of humans first. And plus eating animals is called NATURE. Jesus ate fish and lamb. You dont like him either i suppose? PETA, Lets get serious. I'm sure you sont post this on yourwebsite but i hope you at least read it.
Signed
A lover of animals
A proud meat eater
A proud Christian
A proud Black woman
most importantly
A proud American
Kari

Posted by: Kari | August 25, 2007 12:15 PM

I have had dogs all my life and I would never do anything to hurt them, but with that being said I think that most of the people behind P.E.T.A are all about the money and media attention. After all when it comes all down to it Dogs are still animals last time I checked, now when I can drive around town and not see a homeless MOTHER and CHILD or not have to step over a homless person to enter my workplace then we can talk about sending someone to prison for dogfighting. I don't condone what Vick did, but I wouldn't send him to prison for it either, just go ahead and fine him, because we all know it's all about the money!

Posted by: Michael Ball | August 25, 2007 12:21 PM

I found this statement on fox news:
"The commissioner didn't speak to Vick but based his decision on the court filings. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Goodell might meet with Vick in the future, and Goodell said he would review the suspension after all the legal proceedings"

How can you use "suspended Michael Vick indefinitely", but then state that you will review the suspension after the legal proceedings, This to me is just not good enough! This just seems as if the NFL knows that for at least 1 year Vick will be behind bars so might as well go ahead and make the public happy with a suspension without pay...... If the NFL just thinks the American public will foget about this someday, and they can sneak Vick right back in the are sorely mistaken!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know some will argue that he will be a changed man when he serves his time, and pays his fines so he should be allowed his job back...NOT how many of us would have our job waiting in the wings? How many of us would get another high paying job with a felony charge?

I can promise you that Vick is not sorry about what he has done he is only sorry that he got caught...otherwise he would have come out and made a statment himself!!! Instead he has hidden behind his lawyers and his mommys coat tails. Truth is he dont care what we think or what his fans think...he is only worried about his career his quilty plea shows that he would admit to most awful crimes, but not to gambling because that might take his career away.....GET REAL MICHAEL...he dont care if each and everyone of us hate him....he only cares that he will one day make millions in the NFL again so he can flip us off once more!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dana Ponder | August 25, 2007 12:49 PM

Two Nice Ones '' Anne & Peter ''

Posted by: keith | August 25, 2007 12:50 PM

Suspended "indefinitely!" Vick's NFL career isn't over. I can already see things playing out in the media just as I expected. Vick is still lieing...he's still dening that he participated and watched these dog fights. But once he meets with Jesse Jackson, etc. and finds God, becomes a vegetarian, his legal team advises him to tell the truth if he ever wants to reserect his NFL career- make millions, he may be a bit more honest about the situation. You've got the NWACP making all these obserd statements that he's being targeted because of his color, that white people hunt and "african american" dog fight, it's because of his childhood, etc. Give me a break! Next Vick will find God, donate money to abused pet organizations, maybe even volunteer at shelters just long enough to get a photo shoot in and newspaper article written about hsi good work, become the next spokesperson for animal rights or something along that line and attempt to fool the public that he's a changed man. Again, give me a break. His NFL career isn't over. The NFL commity will show their colors of having NO INTEGRITY just like Michael Vick. THIS MAN TORTURED ANIMALS! THESE ANIMALS WERE TORTURED!! His money from his football career went to pay for these animals to be brutally tortured. He should NEVER be allowed back into the NFL! He should do jail time! It should be at LEAST 1 year of actual serving time. He should have SEVERAL THOUSAND hours or maybe several years of court ordered community service that he will be required to do at animal shelters and PETA (not public speaking because of WHO he is- he should get his hands dirty), he should never be allowed to own a dog or any other animal ever again, he should donate money to all the animal abuse prevention orginizations....etc. His NFL career should be over! But that will not happen. When the NFL takes him back, because they will, any money he earns while in the NFL should go to PETA and any other animal rights orginizations, rewards to those who TURN IN others participating in dog fighting,and this should happen as long as he in on the NFL payroll. Soooo sad that there are people in this world that will look past his actions just so they can watch him play football for their own personal enjoyment. It's all about MONEY for the NFL and Mr. Vick- Not about truth and justice. What a sad world we live in!

Posted by: Leighann | August 25, 2007 01:05 PM

Kerry H:
You are so right and i agree with you!

Posted by: Curious One | August 25, 2007 01:06 PM

dear ann:

blatant lies, lame excuses, and casting blame apparently is the "norm" for and what the sick dogfighters are all about...

Posted by: 007 | August 25, 2007 01:15 PM

I am just sick that a human could do such things to any animal. I hope and pray that the NFL suspends VICK for good and that he is convicted to the total extent of the law and then some. I wish we could give VICK and his people the same treatment he gave those innocent animals. Again he is not sorry for what he did he's sorry he got caught. I hope you pay for the rest of your life VICK.

Posted by: Diana Velko | August 25, 2007 01:38 PM

Vick is a nice guy. Why are they doing this to him?

Posted by: David Hendon | August 25, 2007 02:06 PM

Poindexter is known for talking from both side of his mouth .
So don't expect too much from him to do anything in term of charging vick for the crime he has done to the dogs in his state.

Posted by: ann | August 25, 2007 02:08 PM

To Anthony A. ...........Okay, Leonard Little and Ray Lewis......do YOU know anything about them?.... Leonard Little Crashed into a woman and killed her when he was drunk. He is stupid for driving drunk, but he didn't beat, drown, and shock this woman until she died. Ray Lewis was charged with stabbing two men and killing them in a fight, wich means they were both the agressor, and then he took it too far. Those dogs wern't accidentaly hit by a drunk driver, or stabbed when they attacked Michael Vick. They were raised in hell, tortured, abused, and then forced to tear eachother apart. Following that they were drowned, or shocked, and one was beaten against a wall until it died. Now you tell me how that even compares you ignorant excuse for a person. Mchael Vick deserves to be beaten until he is almost dead, then left in a cage full of his own fecal matter and just starve, rot, and die. Not one thing better than that.

Posted by: Brittney | August 25, 2007 03:10 PM

great news!!! thanks to everyone who spoke up wrote letters, sent email, made phone calls and picketed. I did my part, and it feels great!!!! sad for the dogs lost, but hopefully many will be saved!! and DMX.... how sad is that!! no wonder he has not put out any music, he is too busy killing his pits.

Posted by: kris shulfer | August 25, 2007 03:34 PM

Breatbart just quoted someone said to be from PETA saying that if Vick shows remorse it might be possible for him to go back to football. I disagree with this position. This man should NEVER be allowed back in the public eye. He got the best that anyone can hope for in our society and he used those resources to promote an evil, brutal vicious enterprise. He deserves to pass into an ignominious end.
Maria

Posted by: Maria | August 25, 2007 05:38 PM

The people have spoken loud and clear.
We will not tolerate this.
I would love to say thank you PETA, the finest group of people in the world.
I am proud to be a member.
Maybe Vick's next job should be working at a Vegan store.
Judith

Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | August 25, 2007 06:30 PM

Iam tierd of all the people who use Lenorah Little or any other NFL star as an example.. The reason he or any other felon is still playing is because of the former NFL Commish.. That guy only cared about money and ratings.. So don't even try to use these guys as an example of what the NFL has done in the past.. Yes these guys should not be there either..but.. This is a new Commish and he has stated on numerous occasions that all of what happened in the past will stop.. Now its time for him to put into action his tough words.. BTW.. Boycott any show that VICK appears on and any sponsors products.. Send a message of your own..

Posted by: Kerry H | August 25, 2007 06:52 PM

Yeah so what Vick openly admitted to dog-fighting,that was the only option he had idiots.If your dumb asses had people u thought were your friends,that he obviously tried to help,and they're broke asses turned state evidence on u what the fuck would you do????Vick did not need a couple of 1000 dollars,this man is richer than all of your dog lovin fucks put together.Those buster's are guilty equally if not more,and PETA don't care about the co-defendant's,and their role in this dog-fighting.It's obvious u are out to slander Vicks good name,and your organization is phony.As for DMX, i guess you are gonna be out to get him now,oh yeah he's famous,and black too,a good candidate for you lifeless bunch of hippies.Oh yeah by the way why don't you go down to Virginia ,and adopt those poor little pits that are about to be put to death,remember the killing of animals is not exceptable.Vick at the end pf the day these people are nothing,all that matters is what GOD SAYS!!!!!

Posted by: kelly | August 25, 2007 09:42 PM

Let's hear some comments from PETA about the NAACP's support for re-hiring Vick after he serves his sentance.

Posted by: Moody | August 25, 2007 10:55 PM

I do not condone what Michael Vick has done, and I agree that he should pay for his wrong doing, but not to the point that most of you is hoping. I would like to ask most of you one question, since all of you want people to believe that you are animal sympathizers. How do you feel about the millions of animals that are put to death by animal shelters each year? What about the dogs that were taken from Vic's property and what their fake is going to be. To me, one way of killing is just as bad as another way of killing. I bet the majority of you who to perscute Vic, for his wrongdoings, does nothing to help stop useless killings that are carried out by animal shelters each and everyday. Even though these places have man's law to hide behind, does not make it right in the eyes of God. Even people who persecute other human beings in this good old USA of ours, are given second chances. I do not think Vic's crime is no worst than the millions of animal killings that is carried out in animal shelters each year.

Posted by: Dempsey Wright | August 26, 2007 12:35 AM

Until the law catches up with todays' society issues "people" will continue to behave as Vick & Co. did.
Why would they stop when they obviously derive enjoyment from their past-time?
All they are going to get is a slap on the wrist, and if that were the punishment for killing another person, how many would not go through with murder? They'll sit back and laugh at everyone condemning them while they count their cash and plan how to get away with it next time.
Money doesn't buy morals and decency, and they certainly possess neither quality.
I say we make them fight,then if they fail we can debate how best to dispose of them, perhaps electrocution?.
Nothing is too good for them,let them suffer as the poor dogs suffered, let them feel the same pain; I believe they would think twice next time they considered starting up their dogfighting venture.
If a celebrity can serve 82 minutes of a 4 day sentence for putting the public at risk, how long will they serve?. LONG LIVE PETA !!!!!

Posted by: julie | August 26, 2007 01:32 AM

Let me start off by saying that while the legal system is overall a joke and has major flaws, it is still the law of the land. But there is also a thing called forgiveness, repentance, and rehabilitation. Jail and the correction system is supposed to be rehabilitory in nature; but how can we as a society achieve that when won't even allow someone who made one mistake in life to rebuild and regain. It is outrageous the way the NFL and Falcons are treating Mike Vick. I am especially disappointed in Arthur Blank, who is all for his 100 million dollar man until something happens. This is another example of the million dollar slave syndrome. I am in the process of starting an online petition for Vick, the same way PETA and others did to lose his endorsements and job. This is not to condone his behavior but in protest to the cruel and harsh punishment he is receiving. I also think that every African American athlete should strike as well, because the very same thing can happen again. One has to wonder if race plays a factor here, and I think it does. We have a voice as a people and can reverse this outcome and not let another black man become a statistic and thrown to the dogs (pun intended); unlike Martha Stewart, Paris Hilton, Robert Downey Jr., Wynona Rider, Mel Gibson, George Bush, Bill Clinton, the Bush Twins, and the list goes on. If you agree please reply to this posting.

Posted by: Marlon D. Brown | August 26, 2007 03:54 AM

mainstream america made him a GOD, now they have turned into a human

Posted by: Marlon D. Brown | August 26, 2007 03:55 AM

each and everyone of us has over priorities in life completely screwed up. we absolutely place too much emphasis on all athletes. yes they are role models, but role modeling should start at home. it doesn't because not only do kids see dollar signs, but so do the parents. WAKE UP AMERICA! these athletes are human, not a single person on this earth is perfect (goodell, vick, blank, bush, clinton, and every other tom BLEEP or harry). people make mistakes.

Posted by: Marlon D. Brown | August 26, 2007 03:56 AM

what i find ironic is people justifying the treatment against vick saying that the heart of all of this is the way he killed the dogs. not too long ago whites used their dogs and water hoses against HUMANS. that has to be more sickening than a dog, but the truth of the matter is that the black man is still less valued than the common dog. an 1/8th of a man.

Posted by: Marlon D. Brown | August 26, 2007 03:57 AM

while peta may be a possibly need organization it should not be fanatical one. everyone is not made the same which is why God made variety. honestly, the organiztion should focus on the ethical treatment of life, all life. that doesn't mean that we can't eat fish, Christ himself fished and fed other fish. awareness is one thing, but forcing your ideas, opinions and way of life on others is definitely not ethical treatment. use michael vick as means of education. be dipolmatic, sit down at the table with him. he as expressed regret; now call him on it and use him as a spokesperson, psa, and advocate for your cause. if in fact the organization is true to ethics it will not portray itself as a perfect group of imperfect humans, but one as compassionate towards life both animal and human.

Posted by: Marlon D. Brown | August 26, 2007 04:09 AM

be careful america, peta, mr. goodell, and mr. blank that we do not judge others while not judging ourselves that we may not ourselves fall.

Posted by: Marlon D. Brown | August 26, 2007 04:13 AM

I find it very sad that any TV Show would even consider giving this vile creature a forum.. All of a sudden he is sorry and he would like to tell us so.. Shame on any network who does this..Shame on anyone who even watches or listens to this creature lie.. OH..and apparently he will be taking calls from his disappointed fans on the Joyner Morning Show.. Lets see if Nike advertises on this show.. What a joke.. Shame on Joyner if this interview actually takes place.. Let him go to prison first and then after he gets out maybe interview him.. Then we will see how sorry he is..

Posted by: Kerry H | August 26, 2007 11:40 AM

"So to me this society is being hypocritical it allows humans to fight one another close to death but not dogs."

The humans have a choice -- the dogs don't. Big difference.

Posted by: dartagnan | August 26, 2007 12:55 PM

I support PETA but you guys have got to be shittn me, this case is about race and celebrity, yes he should be punished but the lengths people have gone is sad, white people get away with all kinds of shit, what about greyhounds, oh it's legal give me a funkin break or race horses and those that go to slaughter, tape that shit it's cruel as hell, PETA needs to say once jail is over help the man get his lively hood, he would be willing to support your causes

Posted by: tony | August 26, 2007 02:40 PM

You people are acting as if Micheal Vick...killed a human. He is worth 120 million dollors and lives in Atlanta. You think he has time to worry about what goes on in Virginia. Nobody's talking about the other two defendents who were most cruel to the animals. I am an animal lover too. But lets get all the facts out. You people are so quick to judge a black man because you want what he has!

Posted by: Mike J | August 26, 2007 03:11 PM

vick supporters and sel-righteous Christians, Kelly, marlon, et al

Please get back to using your meds. Your nonsensical comments serve no purpose. Leave Jesus, God out of this horror. Now Jesus ate fish and lamb---what else did he eat???? Not in my bible. Take a look at Catholic Concern for Animals,
www.catholic-animals.org and read how Jesus/God truly wants his creatures to be treated. Genesis clearly states that the trees will provide humans with sustenance.

Back to Vick. He deserves to pay dearly in jail and with a great loss of money. Killing human or non-human animals is equally horrible and unacceptable; both feel pain and bleed.

Posted by: Ana | August 26, 2007 05:46 PM

you people need to get lives

Posted by: B | August 26, 2007 06:53 PM

Mike J,
Why would i want to be a black man "because i want what he has."? Vick is going to jail, his career is ending, his fans don't trust him, #7 jerseys are going to animal shelters, and is more likely to go to hell for murder. So why would i want to be that man? The other 2 defendents didn't kill the dogs, they just gambled. Plus, if he is worth 120 million dollers, why would he be in Atlanta? Of course, no other football team wants a lier, murder, and trash on their team.

Posted by: Curious | August 26, 2007 07:02 PM

VICK IS SICK............
He is a disgrace to the NFL
and Nike. I hope he has to fight in jail just like he made the dogs fight.

Posted by: Carla M. | August 26, 2007 07:36 PM

It never fails to amaze me, every time I visit this blog, that there are STILL posters who pose the same old stupid rhetorical question(s), "... why don't you care about the plight of so-and-so PEOPLE..." Why don't they let (me) pick (my) charities, and they can pick their own? Try thinking for just a moment, and learn that this is PETA. And I'd be willing to bet that probably none has donated or volunteered on behalf of troubled "people" out there that they insist we are ignoring over animals. Give me a break, PLEASE!

Posted by: Peter | August 26, 2007 10:02 PM

i hope vick gets the maximum punishment for his crime. and i trust the nfl will do the right thing and never allow him to play again in the nfl. his career has been ruined by his own stupidity. nobody should fell sorry for him at all! the emotions should be to those poor dogs who had to endure his tourture!

Posted by: michael | August 26, 2007 10:15 PM

Let's not pretend that Vick's treatment of hundreds of pitbulls was OK. Let's put him in a cage with a few of the dogs he doused with gasoline and see how he defends himself. His treatment of these dogs was grossly inhumane so let's not make this a race issue. He's a coward....no matter what color his skin is.

Posted by: Gino | August 26, 2007 10:35 PM

This isn't a racial thing, get over it. The man tortured and killed animals. Last time I checked, that grossly inhumane. Doesn't matter if Vick is blue, green or black, he broke the law. Creulty to animals can NOT BE TOLERATED FROM VICK OR FROM ANYONE ELSE. So quit the damn whinning. HE'S AN ANIMAL...LET'S PUT HIM IN A CAGE WITH A COUPLE OF HIS FIGHTING PITBULLS AND SEE HOW IT FEELS. Good idea all you babies out there?

Posted by: Jade | August 26, 2007 10:44 PM

I which that Vick will sue you'll. I still say that "PETA" is an organize KKK. Because how can you put animals before people. What God put on the earth? Do you'll really now what the circle of life is? Probably not. Well you should find out that animals have a time to where they have to go. They would not have suspended Vick if they weren’t listen you'll. Or the commissioner is weak. The commissioner is not hired by commoners like you'll but by the members of the NFL. So I will grantee that the commissioner will not be there. He will be voted out. He needs to grow a spine. Well back to the animals. Please leave us black folks alone we have endured enough of you'll putting us down. They are just dogs. Not people cherish people’s life like you cherish the animals that don't have a voice and there is a reason why. That’s the GOD wants it.

Posted by: Dee | August 26, 2007 11:11 PM

You stupid WITCH Vick doesn't have any guilt he was pressured into doing that. He shouldn't have but the pressure from the PETA STUPID GROUP and others that's why he did what he did. They are DOGS NOT PEOPLE. PEOPLE are more important than the dogs. I hope something BAD happens to you and when it does let me know if they will fight for you like you fight for the DOGS you defined. They will treat you like the DOG that you are.

Posted by: Dee | August 26, 2007 11:18 PM

fuck you all i am down with vick this is fun its done every day and will continue go after a millionaire ball player for a dog go fight for human life and police killings i hope all your pet die

Posted by: ron | August 26, 2007 11:32 PM

Vick made dogs fight. You guys watch human beings fight all the time its called boxing, i dont see anyone going crazy over that. look at the boxers after they have finished their careers, muhamad ali cant even stand up straight. What also makes me mad is the fact that the president can go out and shoot deer, while somewhere else the vice president is out shooting birds, what the hell is wrong wiht shooting a dog. I guess because dog fightin is seen in rural african american society as a sport it is looked at as illegal.
Im not saying it is right to shoot any animal, infact thats cruel anyway you look at it, but if you are gonna hang vick for killing a dog then can you do the same to the president and his second in command. Lets not take sides, im not. I dont even like football.

p.s please post this comment. every sotry needs two sides.

Posted by: himmie | August 26, 2007 11:33 PM

I think the police should free MICHAEL VICK! MIKE VICK IS INNOCENT! I MADE A SITE PROVING IT....GO TO www.freemikevick.com
he is innocent. In my opinion those dogs were his and his property so he should be able to do what the heck ever he wished. Mike Vick is a hard worker for his money and shouldnt give any money to anyone unless he damn well wants too. You guys take this as a big issue and you let R.Kelly go take a piss on little 12 year old girls and you still buy his records, you let Michael Jackson molest little children and still are fans of him, you let all these other plays kill people, do drugs, do what ever they please and make a big deal out of this. I dont know if it is because he is an African-American that all your children idolize and you just want him gone or is it just because he is black, makes lots of money, and is a well respected man.
Sincerly
ATL DAWG
A PROUD VICK FAN
A PET OWNER
A PROUD WHITE AMERICAN
GO NAACP!

Posted by: ATL DAWG | August 26, 2007 11:56 PM

So now people are talking about boycotting the Tom Joyner morning show. Well, go ahead. But let's do a reality check, boycotting a black show that's white owned will only deprive the corporation that owns it of profits.

You see, black America doesn't have the institutions that commerce flows through. Black folks are poor, by and large, and there isn't a lot to take from most of us. The exceptions, like Vick, are always at the mercy of the owners and endorsers, and can easily be replaced if they don't toe the line.

This is why Michael Jordan says nothing about the condition of garment workers in Nike plants overseas. Even in retirement, his silence is bought. How many PETA corporate sponsors are engaged in illicit activities? Have you checked?

Black people can survive any boycott that PETA or anybody else stages, and we can stage a few of our own. PETA is no different than the NCAAP; it picks and chooses it battles. Both are bourgeous organizations that are out of touch with more people than they are willing to admit.

To many people, PETA is perceived as a group of upwardly mobile white people of higher social status who have nothing else to do with their time but to obsess over animal rights. They aren't even concerned with humans, such as Katrina victims, but they might go to New Orleans to rescue the alligators. Fair or not, this is the image in the minds of many, who see PETA members as Starbucks sipping yuppies.

In this era of post 911, where billions of dollars can be allocated to the Iraq war, most of us are trying to survive. We have enough trouble trying to pay bills, black, brown, yellow and white people alike. I'm certain most people are animal lovers like me, but children, jobs and a roof over our heads are our priorities.

It just amazes me how this particular act of animal cruelty above others gets this much coverage, while there are others far worse. Vick has commited a horrible crime, there's no argument about that, but he has become PETA's poster boy above so many others.

It's funny how some of the women want to castrate Vick. I bet that they would sleep with him in a minute, if they saw him in person. I bet that some people aren't as apalled as they let on either, if you grew up on a farm, or slaughtered cows and hogs at a meat packaging plant, you have seen far worse astrocities on a daily basis.

And Vick can't do right if he apologizes or chooses not to. People will condemn him if he doesn't and say he has no remorse, and that he is cruel. If he does apologize, they will say he is shedding crocodile tears, because he got caught. What do you want from him?

Vick is going to prison, on something so many others get away with and will continue to get away with because PETA has tunnel vision on this issue. The kennels set up like moonshine operations will continue after Vick is behind bars. PETA has a just cause, but it picks and chooses it targets, and allows people to pick Vick apart.

I don't believe for one second that Vick is a bad person. He made some very bad decisions, and like someone eloquently stated before, some people don't even understand that the dogfighting culture is wrong. If PETA knew of his involvement back to his Virginia Tech days, why didn't they do something then?

Vick has many things working against him, namely his being black. People don't even realize how easy it is to jeer someone because of their skin color. Like it or not, our dictionaries describe things that are white as good and black objects as bad or evil. Until 1969, the Mormons, or Latter Day Saints, preached that all black people were going to hell.

I sincerely doubt that this posting will be displayed. I'm not trying to change anybody's mind, but people need to acknowledge their motives. John Wayne, a man I used to admire, was a racist and apparently quite comfortable with it. If that is your position, at least be honest about it. I can respect honesty, because I will always know where you're coming from.

Posted by: Chancey | August 27, 2007 01:00 AM

kari
you forgot to also sign your post as a hypocrit. the same as
marlon d brown and the rest of you empty headed think alikes dempsey wright, anthony a, tony, mike j. should sign your posts as

cruelty supporter
law breaker supporter
brainless ignoramus
dumb
fucked up
illiterate
liar
stupid ass
all mouth
waste of life
lame brain
dimwit
constipated shit head
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: observer | August 27, 2007 09:44 AM

Mike J .. go take a long run of a short pier .. you arseole !!

Posted by: keith | August 27, 2007 11:01 AM

Killing dogs isn't a racial issue, or an issue of a rich celebrity getting burned at the stake,so to speak. Fighting and killing dogs is ILLEGAL and immoral, period, no matter who does it and when or where. "Cultural" doesn't excuse that.
I am glad to see that Vick will be paying for his crimes. I hope that all dogfighters will be brought to justice.
Meanwhile, in today's paper, I read that a two year old filly died of a heart attack on the race track in Saratoga and "no one knew why" (maybe because it was 92 degrees?!)
I am SO disgusted with the way humans treat animals! Whether it's the circus, the laboratory, the greyhound tracks and horse racing tracks, the dog shows, the horse shows, the rodeos, the dog-fighting rings, the factory farms, the slaughterhouses, etc. etc. etc. the list gets longer and longer, with no end in sight. NO animal should be made to pay for a human being's dinner, coat, shoes, OR "entertainment" - legal or illegal! We will never be the enlightened society we could be until we recognize that and sign it into law.

Posted by: Susannah | August 27, 2007 11:16 AM

Look at Vick on TV . . . he is so unremoreseful. He's all about money. He's talking to the NFL and not to any of those animals he killed. NEVER LET THIS HUMAN BEING play football again !

Posted by: Casey | August 27, 2007 11:39 AM

You know what? This guy Mike Vick has tortured and killed dogs. This makes him criminally insane. Only a psychotic sick twisted human could do what he did. He should be locked away in jail for life. The punishment is not harsh enough and I fear for dogs when he is released. He will do this again, just a released rapist or murderer will.

Posted by: vegan4animals | August 27, 2007 12:22 PM

you damn loser

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 12:32 PM

Deserves a sentence. A punishment. Definitely somet time out of the NFL. Majority of PETA people are being ridiculous, but so are the fools who jump to the "racial" debate too. Just as stupid.

Posted by: JT | August 27, 2007 12:46 PM

I'm glad that at least ONE other person posting a comment here has also found out about PETA's blindness when it comes to their own actions. Amazon.com sells materials not only with dogfighting as a topic/ basis but there are also materials that inform readers HOW to train and breed these unfortunate animals. Amazon.com also offers cock fighting magazine subscriptions.

Guess who else sells their magazine subscriptions on amazon.com? PETA. I recently emailed PETA to see if they were going to pull away from amazon or do anything. Apparently not. I received in response a weak statement at how I have it in my power to boycott amazon, but PETA will be doing nothing.

I guess PETA likes being able to sell through amazon more than it likes doing the right thing. By the way, Barnes and Noble sells these materials as well.

Posted by: Jen | August 27, 2007 01:05 PM

I would like to say that mikey is a good guy. He just likes to beat dogs. Who doesn't? Going to jail for beating a dog? I mean how do you train one without beating it? My dog is retarded because I love peta.

Posted by: Jack Mehoff | August 27, 2007 01:24 PM

Mike J...do you listen to the news at all? Arthur Blank came out and pretty much put the Vick lie of "I never go to my home in Virginia" into a whole new light when he spoke out about how much time Vick spent in Virginia.. While the other players hung around Atlanta he was always gone to Virginia...So your theory of he was too busy to be there is WRONG!

As for wanting what Vick has...THINK AGAIN...I already have more than he has in morals and values. All that money means nothing when you have no compassion or values of the life around you! Being as hung up on yourself as Michael Vick has shown time and time again he is makes for a very boring life........MONEY DOES NOT EQUAL HAPPINESS!

As for pulling the race card that just does not work anymore... I have spoken with many black people that in no way think that this is a race issue it is what it is punishment for dog fighting no matter the color of your skin or the status of your job. The only true race card here boils down to money if it were most of us common people who do not happen to be worth 130 million we would have been in jail from day one..........so the only unfairness to this whole situations is the fact he has received special treatment from day one!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find it sad that so many American’s are so wrapped up in their team winning football games that they can not see 3 ft in front of their face and they will do anything to justify a star players actions, because there is a small chance that their team will not make it to the super bowl...how lame is that this man tortured living breathing animals that feel pain...and all you VICK supporters can think about is the outcome of a dang football game........Think the statements I have seen lately saying “oh its just dogs” should be changed to “oh its just FOOTBALL”!! As for the Atlanta Falcons fans I also have to question your loyalty to your team for many years Michael Vick has been a one man show no one else has even gotten half of a chance to prove their talents...there is no I in TEAM! So when over last few years you all have been so blinded by Vick how can you judge their abilities without him on the field? In all honesty his teammates are most likely glad he is gone so they can finally PLAY BALL

Posted by: Dana | August 27, 2007 01:31 PM

For those of you who are comparing dog fighting to BOXING..lets get one thing straight-people CHOOSE to fight others-these animals were FORCED to fight other animals and brought up in environments that didn't allow them to play with other animals, and live happy lives. These animals were forced into a life of constant fighting and ABUSE. There's no way you could compare boxing to dog fighting. Simply assanine!

Posted by: Shannon | August 27, 2007 01:40 PM

I am glad this loser is going behind bars. I mean what was he thinking. He had a good career ahead of him, what an idiot. He got what he deserved. Apology not accepted!!! Have fun in jail!

Posted by: Marc | August 27, 2007 01:42 PM

So.....what's the story for today.... Oh he's sorry, well what is he sorry for....
sorry for what he did... or sorry he got CAUGHT!!! He didn't take responsibility before the evidence was presented did he? No he gave excuses.... "He didn't know what was going on, "He didn't participate in the abuse of any of these animals. Oh and this on I find really special "His family lived there and "He did't know what was going on. THEN He says "He pleads "guilty" to all of it! When in reality two of his associates turned states evidence that he "WAS AWARE" of what WAS going on. So what are Vicks fans going to use as an EXCUSE next! I seen him on CNN this morning and I do believe he is sorry.... But FOR WHAT? He's right.... He does have a LOT of soul searching to do.... It is also very INTERESTING that when people are caught doing something WRONG.... they all of a sudden find JESUS!

Posted by: C.J. | August 27, 2007 02:20 PM

Hi Chancey. You're obviously a well-spoken individual so and I hope you don't mind if I address your statement.

I'm kind of tired of this odd, new argument of "why should we care about dogs when so many humans are suffering?" First of all, it mixes apples and oranges. Would you complain to the NAACP that "Why are you focusing on blacks so much when so many hispanic people are suffering?"

I'll get back to this point in a minute.

I'm wondering, Chancey, if you've ever partaken in or witnessed a dog being electrocueted or drowned? Have you ever seen it in person? Forget about videos, you should be there. I'm not so sure you'd be so blase if you did.

I haven't, but I did work at an inner-city shelter where I personally euthanized about 800 cats and dogs. Young, healthy, gentle dogs and cats that would have made great pets.

I strongly suggest you get yourself to a shelter as a volunteer and watch a euthanasia and tell me what you think of the large trash cans filled to the rim with dead cats and dogs. Come back and tell me afterwards, that you think we should all just forget about suffering animals and instead focus on "people problems".

Then imagine the dogs and cats in the trash can were killed not with a barbituate, but were held under water until they drowned or were electrocuted.

I'm not trying to be snide, here, buddy. Not at all, I'm dead serious. I'm now a certified veterinary nurse and I can tell you, people who care for animals don't make lots of money.

If you want to see overprivilleged folks with too much time on their hands, let me introduce you to the soccer mom who brings us an emaciated, sick rabbit who's been left in a back yard cage for two years because "my 10 year old wouldn't take care of it."

Or the wealthy couple moving to Florida handing shelters their cats because "we don't want to take them with us when we move"

And oh, I almost forgot, the wealthy football star with better health insurance than most of us could ever dream of who decides to risk his noble charity by partaking in a known illegal activity that results in dogs being hanged.

I don't give a shit what color he is. I've worked with many African-American animal professionals, from wildlife rehabbers to vets to shelter workers who agree with PETA - this guy made a concious choice to bury himself and he didn't even have the excuse that he was poor and needed the money.

And finally, please tell me why an animal's life is less important than a human's. I'm not talking about aggressive animals vs some poor little child. Aggressive animals should be euthanized, but tell me Chancey, why is a human's life MORE valuable than a well behaved cat or dog?

I'll be looking forward to your answer.

Posted by: Maya | August 27, 2007 02:31 PM

As a side note, Chancey, I would absolutely go to New Orleans to save an alligator. It would be a great honor for me.

And I would bring with me musical instruments to donate to musicians affected by Katrina, and money, and clothing, and I would and have in the past help homeless people in any way I can.

And I don't donate to no stinkin' government charities. When I see a homeless person, I hand them money directly.

Posted by: Maya | August 27, 2007 02:43 PM

jackM, your cry for attention is obviously that...
so what's your point, or do you even have one?!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 02:52 PM

First off I think that Michael Vick should never be allowed in the NFL. What he did was so wrong. For those of you who would use boxing as an defense of "poor humans who get abused", they have a mouth and they can voice their pain. More important than that, they have a choice. Animals don't, Period. No matter how aggressive they are, they're not stronger than a gun, electrocution, strangulation or any other cruel method those bastards used to destroy those animals. It's very disturbing that the race card is being brought in to question. Black, white, yellow, blue, green whatever it's wrong. If the NFL is blatantly immoral enough to let Vick in after he serves his sentence, we'll deal with it then but for now may he serve as an example to all those enjoying celebrity status that you are not above the law. Personally I think he and everyone else involved should be thrown into a big cage with the surviving dogs and let justice be served.

Posted by: Michelle | August 27, 2007 02:55 PM

Thank you observer and Susannah for your comments. I AGREE!!!!!

It never ceases to amaze me the profoundly stupid remarks Vick supporters make. Also the race card excuse is boring ad nauseum.

BTW Chancey, there are Hispanic, Jewish and Asian PETA members. I see them all the time and am friends with them and am also Latina. Trying to reduce PETA to being a "white" organization with a lot of time on their hands is absurd. That description fits the Ku Klux Klan. The NAACP is a hypocritical organization that has no integrity; according to them blacks should not be punished when they commit crimes but they point a long finger at "whites" that do. NAACP is an apologist for Vick and that is shameful!!!!

Killing dogs is shameful and taking pride and joy in it says a lot about who you are which in this instance, is not much.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 03:02 PM

I dont get why you guys have groups of like 10 fucking people to boycott like a circus. it doesnt make a different...no one gives a fuck what you think about your little ten person protest. So why dont you peta people get a fucking life and leave everyone alone... no one cares about your opinion...and also you guys say not to eat animals but when people kill them anyway why wouldnt you eat them to at least make them go to waste. Also its a proven fact that people who dont eat animal products die 20-30 years younger than people who do eat animal products.

Posted by: ATL DAWG | August 27, 2007 03:25 PM

To Brittney,

Yes I do know about the Leonard Little and Ray Lewis cases. I did research and case studies on them, as a matter of fact. First, Leonard Little knowingly got more than twice the legal limit of alcohol in his system over a period of 3 hours. He was in that state of mind because he chose to be. Then, he made the decision to get behind the wheel of a car and drive. It wasn't some aberration of his character or anything like that. It was later discovered that actions like these were a once a week thing for him. So he routinely made this mistake, it was a part of his lifestyle. Ray Lewis was not defending himself against these two men. He was the aggressor when he pushed one of the guys because of a woman. That was started the fight, and Ray was also just being Ray. He had a tendency to throw his linebacker attitude on everyone. He was known to get into with teammates, other players, coaches. He was a very hostile guy at that point in his career. Alot of times, that hostility spilled over from the field into his life. Don't think that these two men were the aggressors, and Ray just took it to far. They were all the aggressors, they were all in a bad situation that night. Ray Lewis got off because of a good legal team. Now, do I think that these two guys deserve worse than Vick??? Of course I do. No matter what people think, according to the law a person's life is worth more than an animals. But yet, Vick is going to do more time than either of these two because of fanatical groups. I am very sympathetic to the fact that some people love animals as more than just pets. But, it is an animal and not a person. Sorry, but those are just the facts. And Brittney, I respect your opinion but why do you consider me ignorant? What's wrong with just having a different opinion than you?

Posted by: Anthony A | August 27, 2007 04:06 PM

Hello Maya!!!!

Loved your comments!!! XOXOX to your kitties!!! All life is precious!!!!! Every creature has the RIGHT to live in peace!!!

ATL DAWG

Your comment is ludicrous so I can't/won't respond. But do not stop taking your meds.

Chancey

How many more centuries are you going to use the race card ad nauseum??? The best choices blacks can make are to stay in school and for teenage girls to stop having babies. The beauty with the other animals is that they don't practice racism. Racism/prejudice will always exist in human society unfortunately. So the best that individuals simply have to do is to live a life filled with integrity. Being violent and killing animals is not a life filled with integrity. The crude and barbaric manner in which Vick disposed of these dogs indicates a lack of compassion and sensibilities undeveloped. Ultimately the ones that suffered the most from Vick's activities are all of the creatures that died. Sadly, these creatures died so violently, cruelly and painfully all because Vick and others took great pleasure in their misery. Let's not forget the other 60 dogs that were confiscated from his property---what fate awaits them?

Posted by: Ana | August 27, 2007 04:19 PM

alt dawg
10 people at a circus protest??? with all your stupid comments, sounds like that's the highest you can count!!! some help for you to learn to count higher!!!
after counting to 10 on your fingers, count your toes from 11 to 20. pull down your zipper and that will make 21!!!
naaawww, cancel the zipper part. you'll still be at 20!!! LOL

Posted by: observer | August 27, 2007 05:24 PM

YOU IGNORAMUSES NEED TO GET NORMAL LIKE US ANIMAL ACTIVISTS!!!
do you actually believe your stupid comments???? are you really that stupid???
no wonder this world is a freakin mess!!! too many of you brainless worthless stupid asses!!!!

Posted by: observer | August 27, 2007 06:45 PM

P.S. to Chancey
How I wish that sharp, articulate mind was on OUR side! I have some questions for you:
Do you honestly think that MOST African-Americans support dogfighting as a "cultural" thing?
Do you honestly believe that the furor over Michael Vick's conviction is because he's a black man?
I grant you, racism is still a huge issue in our society, and it's true that more fuss is made when a black person is responsible for a crime than when a white one is. I have watched the slaps on the wrist for Paris, Nicole and Mel Gibson with, well, nausea, at best.
But can you concede that what Michael Vick has done is a crime, that no matter HOW he himself was raised and what cultural proclivities he inherited, HE is still responsible for what he does? He's a grown man, Chancey. Does he truly represent what you'd like YOUR kids to emulate?
As for us PETA types not caring about people, it IS apples and oranges to accuse us of that. There is NOTHING contradictory about caring about people AND animals. In fact, true compassion for animals can only increase compassion for people, too. But no matter how much PETA and its membership may or may not care about people, that isn't the issue when we talk about Michael Vick and his activities down there in Virginia. Nor is the issue about blackness or how Michael Vick was raised. The issue is about what Michael Vick DID and, because he IS a celebrity, what kind of impact his role modeling could potentially have for the young people who follow him. The same could be said of any number of "celebrities", yes, but they weren't drowning dogs, hanging dogs from trees, and setting them up in rape stands just for the hell of it. No matter how you want to cut it, that's a disgusting, brutal, and totally reprehensible crime and nothing can defend it. Nothing.

Posted by: Susannah | August 27, 2007 06:49 PM

TO ATL DAWG,

COULD YOU GIVE ME THE NAME OF YOUR DR. OR DEALER, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT MEDS YOUR TAKING THAT'S MAKING YOU SO DELUSIONAL.

Posted by: c.j. | August 27, 2007 06:52 PM

So Vick says he is sorry...Did anyone noticed that he called his actions immature?? Not cruel and evil..but immature.. When I was an immature teen I never tortured animals.. THis guy is unbelieveable.. Not once did he apologize for torturing and killing these poor dogs..not once.. He is a cruel joke.. He only cares about himself..

Posted by: Kerry H | August 27, 2007 07:00 PM

To the folks who responded to my posting... I'm glad that I have parked such passion in you. I grew up on a farm, with hundreds of hogs, chickens, geese, cattle and other animals. Slaughter was an everyday event without incident in my first 20 years of life, and animals are not slaughtered in a humane manner either. I have seen the killing of thousands of animals. It is not uncommon for the average person raised on a farm, male or female to accept this reality. I know this may upset some PETA folks.
As a child, I had my heart broken many times by the death of a favorite chicken or hog to become someone's dinner. In the world of farming, you become numb to it, suffer an emotional breakdown, or get out of it. I no longer farm. Maya, I worked for the Salvation Army running a homeless feeding program for 11 years, so I applaud your commitment to the homeless. I don't give them money, but I will gladly give them food. Ana, at no time have I said that Vick is innocent or a victim, and the "race card nauseum' as you call it is in your face. By the way, check your facts. Black pregnancies across the board have dropped 40% between 1990 to 2002. Your statement smacks of racist overtones. What's your point?

My point is that others get continue away with it. Where is your anger for those other animal abusers? For you, anonymous, have some courage and post your name. I mentioned that the NCAAP picks and chooses its battles like PETA, but your head must have been up in the clouds. There is a huge generation gap between the affluent members of the NCAAP and the struggling young black people out there trying to make their way. My brother once approached the NCAAP about an incident that happened to him at his job, and they turned him down cold.

Maya, you are interesting. I have been around animals all my life, have had many dogs and cats, heck, my wife has seven cats right now. To answer your question, of course I have never taken part in a dog drowning or electrocution. But growing up in the South, I have seen sheriff department deputies use dogs to hunt men down like a meal.

I have seen people sic dogs on others. Oh, another common practice in the South is to abandon dogs on someone else's property. You are walking on your own land, when suddenly, some dog is chasing you. I had to get in the habit of carrying meat with me to distract them. I don't blame the dogs abandoned by some irresponsible person. I have seen many animal atrocities. During hunting season in the south where I grew up, people have no regard for private property when they are searching for the "perfect buck". You had best stay indoors, because hunters will shoot at anything that moves. I can't tell you how many deer carcasses I have come across with the antlers and hooves removed, but the flesh left for the maggots.

I have seen cruelty. Another trick hunters employ is to spotlight deer, which freezes them in their tracks. This particular
practice is illegal, and people do go to jail for it, but many still take a risk and do it. I personally have never hunted animals, and although I do fish, I end up tossing most back. I eat beef, chicken and fish, I am an animal lover and I am perfectly comfortable with that hypocrisy.

For PETA members from other races other than white people, make yourselves visible! I personally do not know one person or ever encountered anybody who is in PETA. I'm just telling you what the perception is. Don't kill the messenger.

Listen, if you believe race isn't a factor here, check out some of the sports blogs. There are people making death threats against this man. The comments here are tame by comparison. People are using the Vick case as an excuse to engage in lawless, reckless behavior. They think that they can post anonymous hate comments and get away with it.

Please show me where that kind of anger is reserved for other people on PETA's list of animal abusers. Fair is fair, treat them all like Vick is being treated. I don't see anything of this magnitude directed at anyone else, even other black offenders. Nobody cares about the other defendants in the Vick case, in fact, I can't even name them.

Posted by: Chancey | August 27, 2007 07:33 PM

YOU GUYS NEED TOP PROSECUTE DEER HUNTERS AND FISHERMAN ALSO!!!!!

Posted by: JHONNY KNOCKENS | August 27, 2007 08:17 PM

Maya, to answer your question about the dogs and cats being euthanized, I have seen too many deaths to be moved. It's sad, but there are people like me that there is no shock value left. I am trying to be honest. I grew up where you could hear animals squealing in slaughterhouses day and night. I live in the Northeastern United States now, where human atrocities once shocked me, but no longer do. After years of hearing of newborn babies found in dumpsters in the dead of winter and other gruesome murders, and watching this Chris Hanson guy on Dateline NBC continually expose the scum of the earth, I have chosen to help the human cause.

I mostly ignore the news because it's too depressing. I like to dwell on happy things. As much as my wife's cats pee and do-do in the house, they are adorable. I can't help but to like them. I completely respect your committment to PETA, so go down to New Orleans and save an alligator!

Posted by: Chancey | August 27, 2007 08:41 PM

When I heard about this man Vick torturing and fighting dogs, I had no idea who he was. Immedietly I branded him a prick and he should pay for his crimes. I don't like football...I never knew who he was. I don't care if he is black, white, whatever...he is a sociopathic killer who needs to pay. Now I'm hearing all this African American cultural dog fighting bull shit. Culture? You've got to be kidding me. When I read some of your posts...well some of you people made me sick. Sticking up for a murderer, and calling it racial? Kelly...ATL..you are both to stupid to even comment about. This is a PETA website. We care for animals and try to protect them. If you don't like it go somewhere else and talk your bullshit, none of us care. And Ron, go back to first grade, learn to spell you moron. I hope you get put in prison as well. Sounds like thats the only place for you.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 12:19 AM

It's scary reading some of these postings because many of the comments are indicative of how depraved and twisted this society has become. It's very sad to think that we continue to sink to a new lower level and that any human being could be so cruel to a helpless animal. Whether that human is man or woman, black or white, young or old, celebrity or common man, rich or poor, it doesn't matter. It's just very wrong. In a sense, the details of the Vick story can serve us as a test of our depravity because if one can read it without absolute revulsion then he or she can consider himself part of some sub-species with no heart and probably no soul. As for me, I don't want to talk with, sit with, work with, break bread with, live with, or otherwise breath the same air with anyone who can possibly approve of such a despicable act.

Posted by: Glenda | August 28, 2007 12:36 AM

YOU ALL ARE A PILE FULL OF SHIT WAITING TO BE SAT ON AND THROWN AWAY...WAS YOU ALL CHEERING WHEN ALL THE ANIMALS WAS BEING KILLED IN NEW ORLEANS????HELL NO,,WAS YOU ALL ARGUING ABOUT CHICKEN FIGHTS IN LOWER STATES???HELL NO!! WAS YOU ALL TALKING ABOUT CRACKER ASS WHITE PEOPLE GAMBLING ON HORSE RACING???? HELL NO....SO WHY IN THE HELL YOU ALL WANT TO PUT MICHEAL VICK'S CAREER IN A PAN HANDLE...BUT YOU KNOW WHAT??? YOU ARE NOT GOD,,AND YOU CANNOT JUDGE ANOTHER MAN...DID YOU CREATE EARTH?? HELL NO!!! SO WHAT GIVE YOU ALL PETA DICK SUCKIN' MOTHERFUCKAZ THE RIGHT TO JUDGE A MAN..AND SAY "GO TO HELL" AND YOU NEED TO READ THE BIBLE B/C THATS A SIN TO TELL ANOTHER 'HUMAN BEING THAT'...BUT FUCK PETA, FUCK YOU ALL WHO PUT HIS CAREER TO A CRACK HOLE, AND FUCK YOU ALL B/C HE'S PAID....BROKE MOTHERFUCKAZ..!!!!!!!FUCK YOU...PAY ME!!!

Posted by: tonio | August 28, 2007 02:53 AM

Vick is a SAVAGE for what he has done. I am sure that there are others out there that do what this SAVAGE has done. But guess what?? Vick got busted. His boys turned him in to spare their own necks..So much for being tight with his peeps. What type of person can kill an innocent creature and not even bat an eye about. I know, a SAVAGE....thats who!! All becuase of money! Like Vick doesnt have enough of that!! But wait, lets breed dogs to kill each other so I can make more money. What a frigin loser. I'd like to put Vick in a room with 10 of the pitbulls that he raised for foghtinand see what becomes of him. I hope he rots in jail for however long of a sentence that the judge imposes. Hopefully the NFL will wake up and give him a lifetime ban when all is said and done. And for all of you NAACP whom think that this is a lynching against "african-americans", try again...If this was a caucasian whom commited this, guess what?? Al Sharpton wouldnt be marching in the streets for him!!! It doesnt matter what race, color or creed you are. This is a heinous act and you have to be sub-human to subject yourself and the innocent animals to this type of torture!! Rot in prison Vick, your nothing but a SAVAGE coward along with your SAVAGE partners in crime. These poor animals had no choice in what they were doing...the choice they were given was that by Vick and his SAVAGE partners. If I said it once, I will say it again, you are a SAVAGE Vick and may God as you said you have found in your speech today, have no mercy on you....Oh and by the way, isnt it funny how when one of these SAVAGES get into trouble with the law they immediately find Jesus!!?? Vick probably couldnt find a frigin chuch if he put it into Mapquest!! What a frigin joke......May those poor animals rest in peace, never to suffer again.....

Posted by: Hollywood | August 28, 2007 05:06 AM

yo yo yo..this is weston up in hurr...i love vick!!yay!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 09:57 AM

would people be so excited about what the nfl is doing if it were children involved instead of dogs? it seems that dogs have more rights than children these days in the law. i agree that if a law is broken, there should be legal punishment..the end, not career ending bullcrap by the public

Posted by: Veronica Phillips | August 28, 2007 10:22 AM

WOOHOO!!!! great news!.. well it may be just a day in jail, but it raised awarness worldwide, i mean did u see the media coverage?? pretty dang good! lol, well it's a small step, but in the same sense a huge leap for dogs!

Posted by: natasha | August 28, 2007 10:28 AM

indefinitely simply means until they decide otherwise. He needs to be banned for good.

Posted by: Justin Wilson | August 28, 2007 11:52 AM

lol "angry glenda" i never heard any1 use the F-bomb AND read the bible in the sentence ....good job 2 peta & all animal lovers!!!

Posted by: rev nathan | August 28, 2007 12:10 PM

For all of you who are defending Michael Vick, I have a few questions for you:
Do you really think that the brutal way in which these dogs were treated can be excused by calling it "cultural"?
Do you honestly believe that this is a racial issue?
Would you want YOUR kids to emulate Michael Vick's behavior?
If you answered yes to any or all of the above, let me just ask one further question: WHY?
I think it's an insult to any thinking, feeling human being to label such demented, sadistic behavior "cultural". Drug culture is NOT "culture," but an abomination against our children, one that will ultimately destroy human lives, either by killing the person or causing him/her to be sent to prison, and one that is ALSO closely associated with dogfighting. Criminal sensibilties are NOT "culture." The very word, "culture" implies civilty, kindness, and compassion, and much of human society is sadly lacking in it, to be sure.

Yes, there is still far too much racism in America. Yes, a black man who commits a crime DOES usually get more notice than the same crime committed by a white man. Yes, the criminal justice system is often NOT color-blind.
BUT
It is also true that Michael Vick is a grown man. No matter how he was raised, or what gangsta "culture" he was subscribing to, he is still responsible for his actions now. He is also responsible for the kind of message he sends to his young fans who emulate him.
Aside from the illegality and brutality of dogfighting, Michael Vick and his friends abused and tortured dogs to death in a prolonged and dreadful way BECAUSE they would not fight.
That's NOT a racial issue. That is a fact, and one to which he has now admitted. Is this the guy you'd like YOUR kids to follow?

Forgiveness is divine, and every person deserves a chance to redeem him/herself, but Michael Vick still has to answer for what he did to the dogs that were totally dependent upon him for their care and well-being. You can call it whatever you want, but don't call it "culture." The fact is that it's a legal and moral imperative to care for the animals in one's care, and one that he egregiously failed. His actions were unconscionable and about as far removed from culture as it gets.

Posted by: Susannah Sulzman | August 28, 2007 12:29 PM

Big deal there animals its not like he killed a human being, if people took as much interest in human life as they do for animal life this world might be a better place. I think to much attention has gone to this. It's ridiculus!1

Posted by: chendri | August 28, 2007 01:15 PM

MIKE VICK DIDNT DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, HE JUST PLED GULTIY SO HE WOULDNT HAVE 2 GO 2 JAIL 4 A LONG TIME

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 01:22 PM

ATLDAWG: I don't get it why YOU're so interested in and critical of what animal activists do and why you're even here on PETA's site if you are not interested in learning somwthing from the many intelligent, informative, explanatory posts and articles available on it?

are you lonely, or just trolling?

Posted by: 007 | August 28, 2007 01:23 PM

TONIO, TONIO, TONIO... whoa!

Can ya' be a little more vague?

IF you are even remotely sincere in your quest for answers you might try asking more intelliGIBLE questions and stop making such preposterous distinctions!

Posted by: 007 | August 28, 2007 01:40 PM

PSYCHO VICK SUPPORTERS, SEWER WATER SEEKS ITS OWN LEVEL!!!!
you stink. you're full of crap. you're a waste!!!!
LOL!!!!

WOULD VICK EVER DEFEND YOU DUMB JERKS???? HELL NO!!!!

he would be busy doing more important things to him like torturing, drowning, and electrocuting dogs!!!!

and how come your precious vick wasn't out there supporting childrens rights, helping to stop the war and all the rest of that bullshit you sling around????

Posted by: observer | August 28, 2007 03:23 PM

vick should never be alowed to play football ever again...AND he should get the MAX ..but we all know thats going to happen, because that is how the human race is , there is NO PROTECTION FOR THE HELPLESS. The ANIMALS have as much right if not more than the humans to live on this Planet ..THEY WERE HERE LONG BEFORE PEOPLE WERE.

Posted by: willetta | August 28, 2007 03:31 PM

Glenda
You put into words exactly my thoughts, and very eloquently I must say. Thank you.

Tonio

Comparing your ridiculous comment to Glenda's or any other intelligent pro-animal comment would be a sheer insult. Thanks for the comment, it made me laugh! You are who Glenda and I describe in our comments. You are depraved and scary. Adding your thoughts about the bible just adds that flavor of hypocrisy that makes it even more ludicrous. Are the words in your comment the words you use when you pray when you read the bible? Interesting. Guess what, God made the animals first and He said it was "good". You and others of your ilk need help and it is such a shame that evil, hateful people like you proliferate in this world. Animal advocates seek justice and peace for the animals while you and your ilk seek revenge and spew hatred.

Thank you to all animal advocates who take the time and energy to help so many wondeful creatures in need.

Posted by: Ana | August 28, 2007 04:54 PM

we all do things wrong so just leave the man along people always in other people
mess but they own

Posted by: djroddaboss | August 28, 2007 07:09 PM

we all do things wrong so just leave the man along people always in other people
mess but they own

Posted by: djroddaboss | August 28, 2007 07:10 PM

To Veronica,

You are aware that the NFL has rules of conduct, right? I don't know about you, but I don't really enjoy watching convicted felons playing sports,especially when they show sociopathic tendencies. Mike Vick belongs in prison, not on a football field. He had everything and was so stupid and careless and without conscience, that he threw it all out the window. He doesn't deserve the notoriety of being an athlete.Now he's sorry? Now he found Jesus? Get a life. He should try Hollywood next since he obviously is testing his acting abilities out on the country.

Posted by: Donna | August 28, 2007 09:32 PM

Yeah, for now. Let's see if the nfl is really serious--ban for life. Anything less is condoning vick's slaughterings.

Posted by: raven | August 28, 2007 10:09 PM

Chancey:

your illinformed, mindless rhetoric depicting a shallow, arrogant perspective re mVick, and wrongful assessment of PETA [which btw is merely your own and that of the IMMORAL MINORITY]... and your feeble attempt to discredit their honorable mandate to campaign on behalf of defenseless animals, clearly shows you have NO real understanding of what they're about or what you are talking about throughout your unconvincing post.

btw, that cutesy remark about sleeping with mVick? scuse' me while I puke along with others with any selfrespect, shred of decency, and a brain!
DO speak for yourself...

and spare us all the tired, worn/out bs re the black card. get over it!
due process is at work. live with it!

Posted by: 007 | August 28, 2007 10:17 PM

it's no just vicks sports have been done for a long time,fake and phony,to much money everything is moneythey should put a cap on salary 250.000,there is still a lot of kids who just want to play the game.no player is worth a million dollars to play any sport.there is hundreds of micheal vicks,McGuires,barry bonds,to me no body beat ruths record do it in the same amount of games,back to vicks i hope the judge burry's him.they didn't give imus a second chance,nappy head we had a italian kid that hung out with us we called him nappy head,grow up,it's just words,vicks should sleep with the fish,good night

Posted by: r.van | August 29, 2007 01:40 AM

glenda
yes these comments from the antis are scary!!!! in comparison, the horrible news broadcasted on tv is actually limited to the way so many more people really think on here, using "think" loosely.
just when I think I read it all, more totally insane comments come from the antis. I can't believe that someone said on here dogfighting is the reason why God gave dogs teeth and vick was doing God's will!!!! I want them to know that these types of insane comments are why I'm an animal activists who values animals over most people!!! I fear for the animals!!!
luckily animal activists comments support sanity on this website!!!

Posted by: observer | August 29, 2007 04:04 PM

Chancey,

It is clear to me that you are a very compassionate and well-spoken person. There is absolutely no reason why caring for humans and caring for animals has to be mutually exclusive.

When humane groups for animals work in tandem with human rights groups, the result is always better than when they work alone.

Peace and many blessings.

Posted by: Maya | August 29, 2007 06:03 PM

Chancey, sorry I missed your very first general response:

Listen, I grew up in a VERY rural area and I too was chased by dogs and witnessed wild animals tortured and killed by the "Good Ol' Boy" culture. I hate to say Rednecks, but I was surrounded by them. I know just what you mean.

But this is 2007. Things are scarier in some ways but more tame in other ways. I agree wholeheartedly that PETA focused too much on this issue.

But I can assure you, they are not a racist group of folks. I've emailed them, and they are great but their press staff are just a bit nutty when it comes to celeb culture. This was a big story and they went crazy with it.

They love big stories. The bigger, the better, more donations, more attention, more protesting. They're pretty over the top in that way! But they're not racist.

You should look at PETAs FaQs. In it they make it perfectly clear that they have no objection to tribal groups killing animals for food.

I think this just goes to show that it's the EXCESSES, the unnecessary suffering that they object to, NOT the things people do simply to survive.

Posted by: Maya | August 29, 2007 08:26 PM

I've read alot of the comments on this blog and just have to say, is this all that matters? Vick probably had more to do with this than he admits but when it comes down to it, the man is getting more time in jail than people convicted of much worse crimes, he is also going to lose his only means of making a living (let's face it, football is about all he is good at) and some of you think he should be banned for life and/or spend longer in jail. The NFL should have nothing to do with this, PERIOD. When Pete Rose was banned from baseball it was for actions that hurt that sport. What Vick did makes him look bad not the NFL. Besides, like one of the other people said, animals are important, but it's not like he killed a person.

Posted by: Troy J. | August 29, 2007 10:00 PM

One response was in reference to fighting animals was tantamount to boxing (two people getting in the ring to fight--they are not trying to kill each other) football is also a violent game. I don't understand your point on letting Vick continue playing... the difference is: boxing and football and played by human beings who can speak and make decisions for themselves. Innocent dogs are used as bait to teach the fighters to practice and improve. The losers are killed in horrible ways. In Tennesee there is a dogfighting ring. The dead dogs are killed and gotten rid of by neighborhood 'kids' sending the message that it is okay. There is not one thing that is all right about this. Knowing that there are actually people who don't think he's done anything wrong and should keep his job just scares me. I think he should be made to understand what he's doing. If he looses a fight, drown him (not to death, just til he understands; or stick a rod up his backside and electricute him (not to death, just til he get the point of what he's doing to something that was born to be loved and learned to hurt and be hurt. Maybe just stick him in a ca