Stuff Ringling and the Barbaric Practises with Animal Acts.

Posted by: keith | August 22, 2007 04:48 PM

kudos for the kids!!!(and PETA)
the kids will remember those visions, tell their parent and other friends!!

Posted by: a | August 22, 2007 05:04 PM

The Ringling Brothers company is like an indicator in our society-

for as long as they use live animals in their "acts," America is NOT a civilized nation.

Posted by: kelly | August 22, 2007 05:38 PM

The minds of children are wonderful. Children have repeatedly demonstrated the ability to know right from wrong, even when they weren't taught so. One group of teachers took a class of first-day kindergarteners and gave half of the children 6 M&MS, while the other children got none. When the children were asked what they thought about it, they said that it was unfair. The teachers then gave the children the option to give half of their candy to the other children. Every single child chose to share. Being a young person myself, I understand the importance of making knowledge available to children. It's important to learn as much as you can before the world around you dulls your senses to what's going on, and then by the time you're 30 you're usually already set in your ways and have no intention of changing. When given the same knowledge as adults, children generally make the right choice. If every child knew of the cruelty associated with the circus, circuses would soon be forced out of business because nobody would go. It's not fair that young people aren't being given the same opportunities as the rest of the world, and I thank PETA for not discriminating about who to share knowledge with.

Posted by: Brianna Fritchey | August 22, 2007 08:03 PM

I can hardly believe anyone would believe the lie that circus animals are routinely mistreated. The idea that anything so big it can kill a human with a single smack or stamp could be trained with cruel methods should be just plain ludicrous to anyone who has ever trained a dog, horse, or other animal. The circus needs animals that can give them a long lifetime of usefulness, and you simply won't get that with those methods.

The people spreading this propaganda have a hidden reason for their lies -- they want to make animal ownership and meat-eating illegal. You shouldn't believe anything they say or the doctored videos that they make.

Posted by: Bonnie | August 22, 2007 10:01 PM

I think you people are sick,love a animal more than people.

Posted by: Tink Hill | August 23, 2007 02:58 AM

I would like PETA to consider that there are people that are COCK fighting Chickens in their coops to their deaths, and that is not a Black Man Sport that is a dominately White Mans'Sport along with Bull Riding where Bulls get their (Testicles) tied with a rope to make them (Buck) while the COWBOYS ride them. Why is the media not investigating these acts of cruelty to the other animals that it happens to from the Pro-Dominately White Race. I feel that Because Michael Vick is Black and Famous, you all are prosecuting him to the fullest just to get your point over about your Organization and how you feel it's cruelty to Dogs, when you're not arguing about the Humane Society (Animal Control Centers)that KILL the dogs anyway when the centers become overcrowded from them picking them up in the streets.

Posted by: lashawn | August 23, 2007 08:05 AM

Oh Dear Bonnie And Lashawn...
Doctered video's? Who's talking about propaganda now? Do you really think that elephants can be trained with "treats"? Sister, the lady putting on the demonstrationed WORKED for Ringling and saw the abuse that was occuring. Archele, like anyone with an ounce of compassion, saw the horrors of what was going on and decided to fight against it, not condone it. Please do your research before making such a ludicrous comment about fake videos. And for Lashawn, you are absolutely right about the rodeo's and cowboys and such...but if you did your research as well, PETA has protested these "sports" as well. Please, PLEASE stop throwing out the race card, you only make yourself look ignorant for the fact that someone who is accused of such horrific and heinous acts is of colour. He's not getting this much attention because he's African American; he's getting this much attention because he's a pro athlete accused of unimaginable crimes. Get with it. Seriously. and the Humane Society euthanizes dogs (unfortunately) if there is not enough room, NOT letting them tear eachother apart (or drowning, shooting or electrecuting) for profit.

Posted by: Courtney | August 23, 2007 10:11 AM

Lashawn,

PETA campaigns againt ALL cruelty, whether it be rodeos, hunting, cockfighting, bullfighting, animal testing, or factory farming. If you want to point the finger at someone so far as putting so much attention on Vick, point it at the mass mainstream media! Trust me, PETA has TRIED to get the word out on all other forms of abuse. It's the FOXs, CNNs, and NBCs of the world that only seem to care when a prominent NFL player is involved.

Posted by: BullyDawg | August 23, 2007 10:53 AM

Children know truth from lies and they acted on the truth here. More power to them!
And to Lashawn: wrong blog! And one more example of "PETA cares more about animals than people..."
uh...no, it's just that this IS an animal rights web site. It's not contradictory to care about animals AND people and most PETA members do just that. But no one here is going to say that cruelty to animals is OK, and if you expect that to happen you'll be disappointed every time.

Posted by: Susannah | August 23, 2007 11:36 AM

Tink Hill we certainly love you '' Mate ? '' long live Peta and all who serve in her....

Hip Hip Hooray !!!

Hip Hip Hooray !!!

Hip Hip Hooray !!!

Posted by: keith | August 23, 2007 11:37 AM

Just outside of Houston, there is an annual Rennaisance Festival. There is an elephant ride for children near the back of the festival. I was watching the kids ride on the elephants. Then I saw the handlers with this long stick with a metal poke at the end. That is how the men were getting the elephants to walk around in a circle around the little arena, by poking them with force. The second the elephant moved out of the circle, they start poking the elephants hard... on the legs, their bellies. They weren't even trying to hide the force they were using! How disgusting! How disgusting! How disgusting!

Posted by: Jaclyn | August 23, 2007 12:17 PM

to iashawn:
black race doing this crime, white race doing that crime, dear iashawn you are right in specifying all these horrible things done against animals! here i completely agree with you! but as a european and seeing the whole vick-case from a special viewpoint, i think that this has absolutely nothing to do with racism! the animal protector - as a personality per se - is not a racist and not caring about a person's colour because all of us are used to have every kind of animals; for example me i have a white horse with black spots and a dark tiger cat and a brown dog! so we appreciate every kind of colours with animals and people! we think - and i think that here i can speak unanimously for all of us here - that it's nice that God created us in different kind of colours - it's nice!
milk - coffee - choclate! lovely! me i like it!

but now to the vick-case! what he did is really criminal and sick! as a european i could imagine that dog fighting was once introduced in america by white masters who gave the task to their black slaves to train the fighting dogs and after the civil war this horrible practice remained installed in the whole system, specially in the south where the ancient slaves continued this practice to get some money! but nowadays we have to get rid of it as soon as possible because it's inhumane and forbidden by law!

but i agree with you that also the other things like cockfighting, hunting, bullriding and of course bullfighting is a great problem for every animal protector! and these crimes are committed everywhere in the world! peta also wrote much against all these things and you should go to digg in the peta files! there is also a very intersting article about bullfighting and how jean-claude van damme is helping the bulls! we have also interesting articles against hunting! peta is also writing to white house people because of this and so on...

and you really can be sure that this vick case here has absolutely nothing to do with racism because there are also many vegetarian black people supporting peta like alice walker, richard pryor, forrest whitaker and my special favorite dick gregory - i'm a big fan of him! also once naomi campbell preferred to go naked instead wearing fur, but i think in the meantime she has been seen sporting fur again, but nevertheless: she is a nice person and i saw an article about her in her home with all her animals and she said that these are all her pets and that she doesn't eat them! really lovely! but you see: all these people are educated and therefore respecting animals! so i say: it's not a race problem - it's a social problem! where much poverty is still existing - people are less sensible towards animals because they have to survive! so in high societies you find animal loving people of every kind of colour and in low budgeted societies you find people who consider animals as food in the first place! for this it's so important to eradicate poverty - in order that every family and person has the possibility to enjoy the real life: a big garden with many animals inside! children growing up with animals have other feelings towards them, once they are grown up!

Posted by: animalfriend | August 23, 2007 12:31 PM

bonnie
are you slow in the head or what???? lies??? elephants in the wild don't live in hot train cars day after day!!! they walk the jungles at least 20 miles a day!!! lions and tigers in the wild don't jump through flaming hoops!!!! bears in the wild don't balance themselves on balls!!!! they are all born to be free!!!! free to live in the wild!!!! so how the hell do you reason that wild circus animals willingly enjoy being in captivity doing unnatural behaviors??? how the hell can you reason that wild animals aren't cruelly whipped and prodded with rods into submission??? whipped into submission like the slaves were. wait. let me guess your reasoning. the animals like getting paid big bucks for their acts!!!!

animals for lifelong usefulness??? you simpleton!!!!!!! when the circuses have gotten their use $$$$$$$ out of the animals, the animals are taken in by caring sanctuaries!!!! the circuses don't pay the sanctuaries a penny for their upkeep for the rest of their lives!!!!

former circus employees give eyewitness accounts in court about the animal abuses!!!! really sounds like they took an oath 'cuz they have an agenda about animal ownership and not eating meat!!!!you're lying to yourself you dimwit!!!!

Posted by: observer | August 23, 2007 02:25 PM

Bonnie , Tink Hill, lashawn

Bonnie, nothing has been embellished but apparently your mind is too closed to see the truth. Slave owners needed their slaves to perform many tasks( Egyptians, African blacks, Aztecs,Southerners, Greeks, Romans et al) but they still mistreated them when they wanted them to work even more dreadful hours under difficult conditions. Tink, animal advocates have a lot of love for both non-human and human animals, moreso than animal haters. lashawn, cockfighting has a lot of Hispanics involved with cock-fighting and as a Latina I find cock-fighting equally as horrible as dog fighting. Culture is no excuse for cruelty. And rodeos, fyi, are legal, unlike cock-fighting and dog fighting; nonetheless animal advocates still are protesting and fighting to end this horrible spectacle where animals are abused and in many instances are killed. Educate yourself and read the PETA files concerning this atrocity. Your lame race card argument is exactly that, lame!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 23, 2007 03:17 PM

Bonnie

I eat elephant everyday. U F*cking moron! Its hard to stomp or smack on someone when you are chained. You think they made up those videos? Do you also think the people who use to work for the circus and say its true are being brain washed by aliens like yourself?

UHH Lashawn, please break out of your alien bubble as well. Maybe you could help some of these animals. We are talking about the circus here not the dog killer Mr. Vick

Posted by: A | August 23, 2007 03:26 PM

Bonnie, what planet have you been on?

The USDA has cited Ringling Brothers for inhumane activity!

There are countless videos, some by their own employees

It sounds like you are just another pro-abuse skeez

As long as someone is making money hurting animals, it's OK? That's what you apparently believe

Posted by: kelly | August 23, 2007 03:35 PM

Not to mention, Bonnie, your crap is nearly word for word what scumbag dog breeders come up with

So I think we know what you are up to

Posted by: kelly | August 23, 2007 03:36 PM

dear lashawn... dear, sweet lashawn,

first and foremost, this post has nothing to do with michael vick. if you want to make comments about it, direct them to a pertinent blog.

second, i would greatly suspect that PETA targeted vick because 1) his operation was so large and the 18-page indictment against him made for such a clear indication of guilt and 2) it is much easier to get public attention when directing it towards dogs and not chickens, the flesh of whom many people consume without reservation.

furthermore, if you would please watch the news, the TODAY show aired an interview with both Ingrid Newkirk (PETA President) and the president of the NAACP national office. the NAACP representative said explicitly that "michael vick is not a victim [here]."

furthermore, PETA does not bash humane societies for euthanizing dogs because it is a necessity. dog/cat companion animal population is in a state of crisis, with them outnumbering every man, woman, and child in the united states of by a ratio of over seven to one. poor humane societies HAVE to euthanize dogs because uneducated people, such as vick, breed them and do not spay/neuter them.

please be more versed on the issues before lending commentary in the future.

Posted by: anti-sean | August 23, 2007 03:46 PM

well tink hill it's like this. i would rather love an innocent lovable animal than a backstabbing, lying, greedy, ruthless, two faced human!!!! that won't sink into you 'cuz no doubt that describes you in part or all!!!

Posted by: observer | August 23, 2007 04:32 PM

Bonnie, you're in Denial!!!
Watch the video! Hear the Testimony!!! Do you have your own agenda or are you just that plain stupid?

Posted by: Janet Fitzgerald | August 23, 2007 05:48 PM

Bonnie:
PS: How come you can't figure it out and a much a school children did? I think all the dead flesh your eating is impairing your judgement!

Posted by: Janet Fitzgerald | August 23, 2007 05:50 PM

In response to lashawn:

No one cares what color a torturer is when they are being tortured. No one cares anything about a man who is doing evil, except that the evil should be stopped!

And hello! This blog is not about Michael Vick!!

It's about the National Conference of State Legislators.

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I'm very glad that the terrible things that Ringling Bros does to elephants and other animals is becoming more known. I hope that organization dies out, because they obviously don't know how to hire people and they don't care at all about the welfare or well being of the animals. People like that are dangerous to all of us!

That video was horrific. It made my heart break for those poor elephants.

Posted by: heather | August 23, 2007 06:32 PM

its mean to hurt animals

Posted by: me | August 23, 2007 06:54 PM

lashawn
answer these questions!!!!
how many times if ever did you go to petas website to read what peta does about the animal tortures and torturers that you mentioned be they white or black????

is it petas fault that irresponsible people don't spay or neuter their pets, abandon them or drop them off shelters and nobody will adopt them????
how many did you adopt so that they don't be euthanized 'cuz of overcrowding??? peta people adopt as many as they can!!!

why don't you join peta to voice your protests????

if you don't answer these questions then you're mouthing off shit!!!

Posted by: observer | August 23, 2007 10:41 PM

I think it was irresponsible to show the video to the children. I personally saw the video, and network t.v. would not have allowed this video footage to be shown on television. These were 5th grade children who did not need to witness blood spraying out of an elephant. And yes, the kids will remember those visions. Thanks PETA.

Posted by: Kevin | August 24, 2007 11:15 AM

Lashawn, PETA is not prosecuting Michael Vick. Virginia lawmakers declared dog fighting illegal, and Vick was found guilty of breaking that law. The state of Virginia is responsible for upholding the law and prosecuting those who break it.

It is not an issue of race. Rather, it is an issue of right and wrong. Not only did Vick commit an illegal act; He also committed what the majority of society believes to be a cruel, morally corrupt act. The color of Vick's skin is a non-issue; His decision to break the law and commit heinous acts of cruelty is the issue.

If you review the PETA site, you will see that PETA regularly investigates and exposes all forms of animal cruelty including cock fighting, rodeos, circuses, fur farming, etc.

Posted by: Sharon | August 24, 2007 11:49 AM

lashawn, read Peta's website.

They expose ALL the issues that you are concerned about

Why not get involved and help change the world?

It is easy to sit on your butt and throw stones. Help out instead!

Posted by: kelly | August 24, 2007 01:26 PM

lashawn

Hispanics are also involved in cock-fights and I find that an abomination also. I am Latina, and although other hispanics refer to it as part of their culture I explain to them that culture is no excuse for cruelty. Many aspects of various cultures have practiced horrible things against both human and non-human animals. Some of thes pracrices have been eradicated. Fortunately, cock-fighting is illegal in all states. Dog fighting, cock fights, bull fights are all ugly abuses against the other animals. It is time to enter into the 21st century and practice compassion towards all sentient beings.

Tink Hill

Animal advocates love all sentient beings and that includes humans. Animal advocates adhere to the philosophy of non-violence and live simply so that others may simply live. That's sick?

Posted by: Ana | August 24, 2007 03:32 PM

YES!!!!!!!!
THE KIDS GOT IT AND THE CIRCUS WILL "GET THEIRS"!
HOW STUPID DOES RINGLING THINK WE ALL ARE??

Posted by: Carolelorraine Sipos | August 25, 2007 03:58 PM