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There has been a lot of back and forth over the Vick case, but Jamie Foxx’s take on it is probably the most absurd I’ve heard yet. Foxx defended Vick in this story, because he thinks dogfighting is “a cultural thing.” Wow, one would think that someone talented enough to win an Oscar, and smart enough to parlay that into a $10 million per movie payday afterwards would know that this ain’t the time to run to the rescue of poor Mr. Vick, who is about to go down hard for straight up cruelty. Who will be next on Foxx’s list of downtrodden misunderstood abusers to defend, Pol Pot?

Anyway, here’s what PETA Prez Ingrid Newkirk had to say about Foxx’s comments, “Black leaders like Russell Simmons and Dennis Courtland Hayes, head of the NAACP would agree, as does PETA, that it is cheap and dirty and wrong to call this a cultural thing -- unless Foxx believes that cruelty is a black thing when it isn't. It may be his thing, but it is not a black thing. PETA encourages people to watch our anti-dogfighting PSA with world heavyweight boxer Lamon Brewster at PETATV.com.”




Comments


Jamie Foxx has got his brains in his arse., and act he is just a steotype.

Posted by: keith | August 27, 2007 12:55 PM

Bullshit rationalization by Foxx. Vick is crying crocodile tears and kissing judicial ass now. He would still be dogfighting if he hadn't been caught. Just hope the judge isn't susceptible to his calculated and insincere groveling.

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | August 27, 2007 01:11 PM

I think we all need to take a chill pill. None of us are in the position to pass judgement on Michael Vick. The man made a mistake. Get over it. We all have used bad judgement and done wrong in life. Let's forgive as Jesus would do. He has apologized for his wrongdoing. What more can we ask for.

Posted by: A lovely lady | August 27, 2007 01:11 PM

Jamie Foxx is a great actor but as far as these comments go he lost a once in a lifetime opportunity to keep his mouth shut!

Posted by: Maureen | August 27, 2007 01:18 PM

When I hear the words, "cultural" I don't necessarily think black. It could mean subcultural i.e., southern or georgian, or bostonian...this is not about race, it's about a choice (bad one at that) that this guy made.

Posted by: Cynthia | August 27, 2007 01:25 PM

You know, I come from the
South where slaves and racism were "cultural things". Do I condone them. No!!!!!Should Jamie Foxx use this as an excuse for the terror and torture that dogs went through? No! After all it wasn't too very long ago that my relatives were hanging his relatives. Does that make it right? No! Wake up Jamie, there is NO excuse! Unless, of course you believe that slavery was excusable.

Posted by: nan mcclain | August 27, 2007 01:25 PM

A_lovely_lady, as is common, when people violate standards of moral decency and commit such crimes, the public will speak out against these actions and condemn the person. This isn't people crying over spilled (soy)milk, it's people reacting to a sizable criminal enterprise, the leader of which has just publicly announced his guilt and admitted to previously lying to the public, his fans, and law enforcement about killing several of "man's best friend." While it would be nice to exercise perfect passivity in this case and emulate the perfection of Jesus, the admitted criminal must be publicly shamed to prevent recurrence of his crime (recidivation). I would much rather seem deservedly harsh on this person than not come across as harsh on the practice of killing domesticated animals.

Posted by: anti-sean | August 27, 2007 01:38 PM

One correction-Vick didn't make a MISTAKE he made a CHOICE. Big difference there!!

Posted by: shannon | August 27, 2007 01:42 PM

Jamie Foxx...what a moron! I'm glad I got to see 'Ray' when it came out because I won't be going to any more Foxx movies. He's lost a fan.

Ingrid Newkirk put it best when she said Cruelty is not a black thing.

As for "cultural" in its purest sense...yes....there is a culture of depraved cruelty. There is and always will be. They prey on children and animals...
We hunt those people down and try them for their crimes. Then we jail them or we execute them. Oh, he's acting out a culture alright.

Posted by: Karen | August 27, 2007 01:50 PM

2+2=5. That's a mistake.
Torture and killing? Not a mistake.

Furthermore, this involved purchase of property, building of kennels, purchase of animals. Training them to be violently agressive, fighting them, torturing them, killing them....

"I made A mistake" ???

Please!

Posted by: Karen | August 27, 2007 01:55 PM

To A lovely lady:

Sure we have all done wrong, but have we all broken the law? Just because he pretends to be contrite, should we should act as if nothing happened? The rapist, the murderer, the child molester can also act repentant. Should they be let off the hook? If no-one can "cast a stone" then ALL criminals should be allowed to roam free. We have laws and Vick broke some of them. Now he has to pay the price.

Posted by: Mike Quinoa | August 27, 2007 01:58 PM

To lovely lady:
There is bad judgment and then there is Vick's judgment. My bad judgment has never killed anyone!!! My bad judgment has never caused death to any creature! Get over it? He murdered living creatures!!! In a horrific way!!! Destroyed the lives of approx. 60 dogs by having them dog fight! These dogs will most likely be euthanized because of this monster's actions! Get over it? I don't think so! Vick isn't sorry about anything, but getting caught and losing $ over this! Someone that does this for 6 years is twisted in the inside, this type of action goes to the core of WHO he is! He didn't smoke pot, he KILLED!!!! Get over it? I don't even know what a person with that kind of mentality is doing on PETA blogs.
Pulling the "I found Jesus" card, so typical... there is no redeeming Michael Vick... those dogs never had a chance to a decent loving life, they were brought into this world to fight and were killed. Thos dogs never had a chance, so why should Vick get a "second" chance? And no I'm not comparing a dog to a human, not to Vick at least, a dog is much better than a monster like Vick.
And we can ask for much much more, harder sentencing, more funding for dogfighting operations, more funding to rehabilitate dogs victim of such abuse... there is a lot more we can ask. Even if Vick gets the hardest sentence available, nothing will ever bring back those poor precious dogs.

Posted by: Andrea | August 27, 2007 02:19 PM

Ok, this is what I don't understand. I've looked all around this website and I wonder why the members of PETA think we all should not eat animals? I don't remeber peta being like this with the Vice President or with the NRA. And then you here the comments from peta supporters like "Vick needs more that what the courts give him". How does peta come of being soooooo perfect. All I can say is look out peta, your day is coming...

Posted by: Patriot for freedom | August 27, 2007 02:25 PM

Jamie Foxx needs to shut the hell up. I just lost respect for him. His statement makes it appear that black culture is cruel to animals and that is damning to all blacks. It's a racist statement. No, black culture is not cruel to animals. Thugs and sadistic scum like Mike Vick are. Culture is NOT an excuse for cruelty. Never has been, never will be.

Posted by: vegan4animals | August 27, 2007 02:36 PM

As a young black educated and succesful male, I agree with Mr. Foxx. He's not saying what Mike did was right, he's saying that Mike should have realized that's he's now a targeted BLACK superstar and his actions are now under a microscope, and because of that he needs to be more careful in his actions and his choice of friends! Mike Vick just lost over a 100 million dollars not to mention the fact that he might serve a year in jail.... What more do you people want, this man has a family to look after! If you take that away from him, what point does that serve? He's not gonna get a slap on the wrist, let the punishment fit the crime and that's it! If Mike Vick isn't allowed to play again, Black America will tear this county apart...I promise. And for the record, this has become a black and white thing and anyone who denies that is living is lala land!

Posted by: Mike | August 27, 2007 02:37 PM

Vick simply apologized because that is what people wanted to hear. He did not make a mistake, he knew what he was doing and what was happening to those animals and still chose to do it.

Posted by: Angel | August 27, 2007 02:39 PM

and who exactly has went to jail for slavery? who has paid for those crimes?

Posted by: mackinnga | August 27, 2007 02:41 PM

Nan Mclain is completely right.

Some people in this country call slavery a "cultural" thing.

Others say that beating women and children are "cultural" things.

Does that make them right? Heck no!

"Cultural" is being used as an excuse by criminals, thugs, and losers to advance the notion that they can commit crimes.

But then, Jamie Foxx is a pretty disreputable figure any way.

Posted by: kelly | August 27, 2007 02:45 PM

I always thought Foxx was a great actor, but now i don't care about him.

Posted by: Curious | August 27, 2007 02:53 PM

This pathetic loser was just X'ed from my book. I will never watch another movie or show with him in it. I hope his career sufferes deeply for his uneducated words.

Posted by: Erica | August 27, 2007 02:54 PM

I will have to disagree with the lovely lady. This was not a harmless mistake. This was the torture and murder of helpless animals. When we have a phycopath in our mist it's a bad idea to just turn the other cheek. Jesus may forgive this monster but I sure won't. By the way, isn't it something how criminals always seem to find Jesus only after they have raped murdered and pillaged the innocent.

Posted by: Lou Ann Nodine | August 27, 2007 02:56 PM

You go, nan! You hit the nail on the head!!!

BTW, I totally look at Jamie Foxx in a different light now...and probably will not go see any movies he is in...sorry I saw "Dreamgirls" now...thanks alot asshole for being stupid..."Dreamgirls was one of my favorite movies and you've totally ruined it for me...

Posted by: Tamara | August 27, 2007 03:14 PM

lady

A mistake is stealing a lipstick; Vick tortured and killed the dogs with no compunction. Vick did not ask for forgiveness for torturing and killing many dogs in the pit, the other dogs used in training as well as the cats, kittens, rabbits also used in training. Jesus also said "Blessed are the merciful..."; Vick was not at all merciful to these dogs and other creatures. Vick is only sorry that he could not continue with his dogfighting and that he is losing money and fame. He is not sorry about anything least of all the creatures he so barbarically used and killed. So interesting that his supporters at the court today all got on the God/Jesus bandwagon; now everyone is yelling forgiveness. Easy to say that now; if he hadn't been caught with dog fighting he would still be doing it. And all of the Vick supporters would still be there making excuses for his horrible actions. How many would you like a convicted murderer to say to you "I made a mistake when I killed your family member". Killing is not a mistake, it is a horrible, immoral crime.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 03:18 PM

Maybe peta should check out Foxx's palace? Sounds like he supports this inhuman dog fighting. Vicks knows right from wrong. Dog Fighting is just wrong!

Posted by: Barbara Boyd | August 27, 2007 03:38 PM

First of all Foxx's statements are being taken out of context, because if you look at it, it is mostly young black men partipating in this sport. Second of all if Peta were so outspoken for the ethical treatment of humans, then they really would stand for something!

Posted by: influence14 | August 27, 2007 03:39 PM

O.o

You know what strikes me about this whole ordeal is the hypocrisies that follow it. Am I mad about the death of the animals or the act of dogfighting? Regardless on how you feel about dogfighting or Vick I'm sure we can all agree killing animals is wrong. And to this point I would like to ask PETA to stop killing animals. Over 10,000. I would like to ask Ingrid Newkirk to seek forgiveness for the thousands of animals she personally killed. I would also like to ask that she do what she said she could. Make Peta a no kill shelter. The only reason it is not is because of money. I would rather have one less ad campaign than one more dead animal.

Posted by: Anthony | August 27, 2007 03:49 PM

you people are CRAZY. When did animal life become more precious then human life.(the signs outside the court house are sicken) And to say that it was not a mistake is absurbd. a mistake is not a one time thing.Who are any of you to say what is in that mans heart. How is he any more of a montster, then some of you people who hurt HUMANS for wearing a fur coat. I do not agree with any type of animal cruelty. But YOU people are rallying behind animals and not a human life. Where were you when the children in MD were stuck eating paint, of the four college students were murdered. NOWHERE, because to you your beloved pet means more then those poor souls. I know that this will touch you people the wrong way. BUT I WOULD NEVER PUT MAN OVER BEAST. And yes I have a pit bull, I love him dearly and consider him one of the family, but if I had to make a choice between my pet and ANY human life. Than I would kiss him good by and choose the human.

Posted by: 2wrongsdontmakearight | August 27, 2007 04:10 PM

vegan4animals, are you crazy? "And for the record, this has become a black and white thing and anyone who denies that is living is lala land!"

This has NOTHING to do with Michael Vick being black, white or purple...it has nothing to do with being male or female...it has nothing to do with being rich or poor...it has everything to do with a HUMAN BEING starving animals, beating them, and taking their lives for FUN, for SPORT, for MONEY MAKING, for ENTERTAINMENT.

I don't care that Michael Vick is black, and I don't care that he is a celebrity. If my own mother did the things that he has done, I would expect her to receive the same punishment.

Actually, because of his celebrity status, he got off easy. Any Jane or John Doe in this country would have received the maximum fines and the maximum sentence for such henious acts.

It has nothing to do with being black, so get off your "young, educated and successful" high horse and go learn something about humanity, compassion, and taking care of our earth and God's creatures.

Posted by: andimal23 | August 27, 2007 04:30 PM

Mike:
yeah, right!
anymore prophetic bs?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 04:38 PM

I just wanted to say. That no one is able to voice an opinion about anything anymore without a fear of PETA, NAACP, or the likes from coming out of the wood works to destroy the life of the comment maker. Everyone is upset over what Michael Vick has done, but you are very naive to believe that this is not something that happens everyday all over the country. There is dog fighting, chicken fighting and people fighting. I am not going to make a comment on right or wrong. Just the fact that it happens. And as much as you are upset about it things are not likely to change anytime soon. People have opinions and should be free to voice them as long as it does not incite violence or harm. Feel free to say what you like about my post because I believe in free speech.

Posted by: Chyllene | August 27, 2007 04:57 PM

So, you don't think dog-fighting would be a cultural thing huh...

Would you consider Bullfighting a cultural thing?
How about cockfighting???

Of course they are cultural!!! You see bullfights outside of spain and latin america????

or cock fights outside of Asia???

Think before you criticize

Posted by: James | August 27, 2007 05:01 PM

I completly dissagree with "vegan4animals"
I'm sure Vick is a young educated and WAS a succesful black man and he STILL made the choice to do what he did.
And every other young,succesful,educated young black men has got caught with there paints down,and yes,got off by the skin of their teeth. When did you think someone was not going to be made an example of? And Mr. Vick is that man. What he was doing was wrong , be it BLACK OR WHITE.!!!! Socity make's it a racial issue and by your comment , you are to. To me you sound like an angry black man, who is upset cause ANOTHER black man got caught!!!! Who cares if Mr. Vick lost millions,now he need's to donate the rest to stopping the dogfighting ring's. And he should have thought about his family before he killed helpless dog's. As far as his sentence goes,he should get the maximum,those dog's didn't get a choice in their sentence.And just incase you have not noticed,a white man has already torn apart this country!!!!

Posted by: black~girl | August 27, 2007 05:08 PM

I think he needs to learn that if you're going to say something stupid, dont say anything at all...

Posted by: Susan | August 27, 2007 05:35 PM

WOW!!! I can't believe you all hold what Jamie Foxx says, of all people, to light and let it affect you. I think i read some of these comments more for comic relief than anything else. Look in the mirror and say "Jamie Foxx ruined my day today and I hate him going forward because he didn't say what I liked." Tears...

Posted by: anthony | August 27, 2007 05:35 PM

This is simply crazy, with all the things we have happening to human beings, rapes, murders, molesting kids, all racists crimes that we have made this top priorty in the media. Where is PETA when you have crimes against human beings? I love dogs, but I do not think that Michael Vick should go to jail for dog-fighting.

Posted by: ericka | August 27, 2007 06:41 PM

How can Mr. Foxx try to make excuses for this poor excuse of a human being? Is it a black thing now despite this horrific crime? This crime has no color barrier and I would be just as appalled no matter who committed this horrific crime. However, irregardless of race, culture, religion or whatever, dogfighting is a terribly cruel activity. What's even more cruel is personally getting off by drowning, electricuting or hanging a pet because they pissed you off--tying the noose around it's neck and watching his loyal eyes up at you as you end his life--or sticking him with a probe that would surely cause pain and suffering or what's more, holding a beautiful creature under water as it fights for oxygen and then it go limp in your grubby hands. Sure, that'll teach your poor dog. I can't even begin to comprehend how any good person can defend Mr. Vick's actions in the slightest. I wouldn't be associated with anyone who would do this to a beloved pet or any animal for that matter. I'd be on the phone with the cops in a minute. It is truly sick. I don't know what loyalty Mr. Foxx has to Vick but if it's brotherhood because he feels his black culture is being persecuted unfairly for whatever reason he decides, wake up, Mr. Foxx, and decide if you want to associate with a truly horrible, mean and sick person who has absolutely no value for the life and welfare of our beloved pets. Let's hope Foxx at least wakes up to realize the magnitude of this crime. How can he ever look at another dog again and feel comfortable with his support of him. Obviously Foxx is not an animal lover and has no pets that he cares about. I have lost all respect for Jamie Foxx. This is one aspect about you that goes against everything I believe in and I will certainly not patronize any future film. Now that you're a big star, you could give a rat's ass I'm sure.

Posted by: Drew | August 27, 2007 07:15 PM

ok Jamie is a fool. and guess what, we should come down harder on him too. We need to look at whats in his back yard. Is he betting on or fighting pitbulls. Culture? Last time I checked, pitbull fighting was not a huge sport in Africa, it was soccer. I live in an area that alot of people own pits and some probably fight them. But within a block radius, The pits are sweet. My son and me go on a walk everyday and pet one so sweet, it breaks your heart. found out he's moving..we will miss him. This is screwed up. Cultural? Ghetto maybe, but not humanely.

Posted by: Tina | August 27, 2007 07:33 PM

F*@#K J. Foxx I was a huge fan of his... since his days in In Living Color... BUt after what I just read I can no longer support someone with such a F'd up out look on life!!!!

Posted by: Jose | August 27, 2007 07:38 PM

To the people or humans who have hunted animals, visited the zoo to view captured animals for the publics entertainment! Shoot dove and other birds of prey with their trusted companion (labador retriever) to make sure that once you brutally shoot him your partner in crime will finish of the kill. Isn't it funny how this world can one minute agree on the capturing and splitting up families for sale of live human beings by any means necessary, track down and kill those who preach for peace, assasinate those who speak for equality for all, can suddenly use the word CRUELTY. You can lie to yourself and how you determine who dies in humans and animals but you cannot hide from the lord who knows who you are. I do not condone what Mike Vick has been accused of because I have never fought a dog and have never HUNTED an animal either. The word CRUELTY does not mean what you feel is socially acceptable based on your entertainment purposes, for you see, that deer that hangs on your wall was birth in the world just as you were. That bird you shot came the same way as well. Yes Those who are accused of dog fighting were wrong! NOW let's put those of you on the stands who are guilty of the exact same thing hunting and capturing of animals. And while were at it, for your actions you may tell your boss that this should be your last day of work because you made a bad choice and should never be allowed to work again,just as you always seem to wish for when some athlete or entertainer makes a bad choice. Your salary should be repayed to your employer, just as you have wish upon Mike Vick. Your TV shows that feature some of the best HUNTERS in the business,the capture and cages you place these once heavenly creatures that God created were comfortable in their own habitat until you came along. Yes my fellow ANIMAL lovers Dogs aren't the only animals on the planet. Also those of you who have children and relatives, remember! Once they make a bad choice in life remember, they should never be allowed to work again and should immediately repay their salary to their employer. CRUELTY to animals is not meant for animals that you have chosen as your pet, just as humans are not to subjected to CRULELTY because they do not resemble us. In closing,I pray for all of those who have looked and lived life based on what's important and beneficial for yourselves. When you want to permenantly destroy someone's career for making a bad choice in life, STOP and ask yourself does their crime resemble any of yours.

Posted by: Kenneth Graves | August 27, 2007 07:40 PM

WHAT ABOUT THE SOLDIERS DYING IN IRAQ EVERYDAY?? YOU PEOPLE CARE MORE ABOUT ANIMALS DYING THAN OUR SOLDIERS!! GET A LIFE AND FIGHT FOR PEOPLE WHO DIE AND THE CHILDREN THEY LEAVE BEHIND!!

Posted by: Crystal | August 27, 2007 07:42 PM

he just made himself look like the biggest idiot.

Posted by: jen kooner | August 27, 2007 08:15 PM

An Open Letter to Jamie Foxx:

Dear Mr. Foxx,

You're an idiot.

Sincerely,
The World

Posted by: YouMustBeJoking | August 27, 2007 08:57 PM

Wow, that is the most idiotic thing I have heard. That is just as stupid as saying that slavery is a cultural thing. Dog fighting is wrong. Slavery is wrong. Why must these idiots open their mouths?

Posted by: E | August 27, 2007 09:05 PM

" If Mike Vick isn't allowed to play again, Black America will tear this county apart...I promise."

Mike, this is what you believe? And Jamie Foxx? This is what you threaten other races with?

The Africans Americans I know would be appalled at your statement.

It sounds like the mob.

Posted by: kelly | August 27, 2007 09:18 PM

This is for 2wrongs. This has to do with common empathy and knowing that killing and mutilating dogs is wrong. Vick was wrong and anyone that defends this prectice is wrong. To kill and torture another life and to get your jollies out of that is sick and inhumane. What part of that don't you get? Also, if you want to give your dog up for any human, then that is probably better for the dog to find a nice family that will love it no matter what, unlike you.
Vick deserves a long prison sentence. And for Foxx to be so ignorant is shocking. I won't be watching anymore of his movies.

Posted by: Valerie | August 27, 2007 09:30 PM

what culture says its okay to fight anything to the death?

Posted by: shanna | August 27, 2007 09:36 PM

2wrongsdontmakeitright is right on target. PETA, please just say we care more about animals than people. I can't believe that people are so outraged over this and yet I didn't see this outrage over Katrina victims. What he did was wrong, but the media and your self righteous group is treating him like a terroist. Are all members of PETA vegetarians?

Posted by: Let's get real | August 27, 2007 09:38 PM

wonder how many dog fights mr foxx has bet on or sponsored after all it is as HE says a black cultural thing

Posted by: melanie | August 27, 2007 10:04 PM

Has PETA foregotten about hunting! Why are they so quick to crucify a black athlete for dog fighting, when everyday people hunt. When was the last time a first time offender for a crime of this magnitude did jail or prison time.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 27, 2007 10:53 PM

To a Lovely Lady. What ever. You can not be taken seriously. There is a lot more that can be asked for, the apology is not meant, he got caught. We sure can pass judgement because what he admitted to is wrong and a cruel sick selfish act for his own pleasure. Only a fool could take that position or someone posting nonsense to stir up people with common sense.

Posted by: Mike | August 27, 2007 10:53 PM

This has nothing to do with Vick's skin color. Tell a blind person what Vick did and lets see if he is judged any better.

Playing the race card is a way of switching the victims around. The victim here isn't Vick, the victims are the dogs! Vick could be pink, yellow, brown, purple, blue, red, albino, it doesn't matter.

I feel bad for African Americans because statements like Foxx's stereotype everyone.

And am I seeing things or is Lamon Brewster not African American?

So bullshit, bullshit!!! To those playing the race card, stick it up your ass! Vick is a murderer, no matter what his skin color is... and don't insinuate this is a "cultural" thing, when it isn't... this is an evil twisted thing and that's all there is to it.

Posted by: A pissed off pitbull | August 27, 2007 11:09 PM

I never said that Michael Vick was not wrong for what he did. What I said was we are not in the position to pass judgement. Obviously, you guy have forgotten that Jesus forgave Saul (who is known in the bible as Paul). Paul was a brutal murderer of HUMANS, might I add. Jesus saved him and made him one of his disciples after him repented. Paul went on to do great things for the Lord. Jesus has the power to change people. As, Jesus would do let's forgive and forget. The man is suffering for his transgressions. He has lost his job and fans. He has lost the trust of American people. What more can we ask. Put yourself in Michael Vick's shoes. How would you feel if it were your son or daughter? Would your feelings change. People make mistakes. Let's move on.

Posted by: lovely lady | August 27, 2007 11:57 PM

Now I will be sure to add Jamie Foxx to my list of "idiots in movies" to NOT see. What a stupid thing for him to say. Idiot!

Posted by: Grace Whorton | August 28, 2007 12:34 AM

In response to the message below... Like hell I can't pass judgement!! Vick is a murderer!! He made a mistake.. no sorry, I can't buy that for a second. Dogfighting is not a mistake, but a choice! If I had the power the man would be in the gas chamber. JESUS DOES NOT AND WILL NOT FORGIVE HIM!!


Posted by: Jill | August 28, 2007 12:36 AM

And just who cares what J Foxx has to think about this?? This just goes to show you that big stars like Foxx and Vick got poopoo for brains

Posted by: Don | August 28, 2007 01:41 AM

Just another stupid actor yet again playing the "race" card. Jamie, stick to your craft and shut your stupid mouth. Every time an African American plays up the "poor Black upbringing" issue they set back race relations in this country by 50 years and damage their own cause. Get over it, this has NOTHING to do with race you imbecile. Cruelty has no race boundries.

Posted by: Donny | August 28, 2007 02:02 AM

Jamie Foxx: Being such a talented actor, it is really sad that you think that dogfighting is ok, having the excuse that is a "cultural thing". It may be a cultural thing because it happens and it is still happening, reason why dogs die in this kind of "activities" for human enjoyment, the problem is that YOU and other people justify this because you WANT to see it as something normal, that should happen every day. Part of being human is understanding that some "cultural things" are all wrong, and should be changed because they are not OK! Sorry, but you have just lost a fan and believe me, I´ll start talking to whomever I can about your poor judgement and that the roles you play in the movies are totally different from the person acting them. I suggest you start playing roles that seem more appropriate for you and not people who are likeable persons because it is preeeetyyyy difficult to believe you in them right now. PS: PR are NOT going to help, at least won´t change my mind about you.

And another thing: ¿why do we always have to see issues as something racial? ¿and why do we always have to think that in a matter of choosing, human life is more precious? Life is life. Period. We are ALL living in the same world, humans, animals, plants. Therefore, we all have the right to live. The problem is that we humans think we are better than the the rest of the nature, and that it is meant to be at our service, BUT WE ARE PART OF NATURE, and by not respecting it we are choosing to to hurt it. Animals DO FEEL PAIN, the reason why we think it is ok to hurt them is because they are incapable of telling us: "hey, this is hurting me". They cry in a different way by making loud noises when hurted, but we CHOOSE not to pay attention to their cries, as if they were meaningless. Guess that makes us humans cruel, but definitely not better than the rest of nature.

Posted by: Francel De la Huerta | August 28, 2007 02:53 AM

Jamie Foxx, is about as apple pie and talented as WalMart and Target and is actions are as tasty and rice and wheat gluten .. Pure crap!

I'm just surprised that the almight Al Sharpton hasn't come to Sick Vick's rescue.

Posted by: Woofenstien | August 28, 2007 03:23 AM

I have always been for Peta as thought they saved lives. We have a no-kill shelter where I live and many animals are matched and go to good homes. They do not just send the dogs or cats off to anybody...you have to come visit them first and get to know them.. However after reading many things about Peta, I am thinking they save animals just to eliminate them. That is no solution. Granted some animals need to be put down as they are too far gone....But Peta is killing way too many. Peta you better come clean or you may find yourself to be the next lucky 7. If you care about these dogs, you can ask the NFL, Nike, VIck's and his cronies to fork over some bucks to care for these dogs, you will look better in the publics eye, than asking them to be euthanized. You are killing the heros of this whole mess. You are killing the Grand Champions that we are all rooting for. Come on Peta, step up!! I do believe it would be in your best interest as many people support you and give donations. You may find yourself with Vick, SACKED!!
Please when you ask for these dogs to be saved please do it with more sincerity than Vick's. Don't do it to save face, but do it from the heart....THE WORLD IS WATCHING!! His apology was worthless, lacked substance...In fact, the worst acting I have ever seen. We truly are not stupid people out here watching this.

Posted by: Lisa | August 28, 2007 06:05 AM

lovely lady is way off base. what vick did is not a mistake. his actions are calculated to make money from the suffering and murder of innocent animals. get with it lovely lady.

Posted by: kathy | August 28, 2007 06:54 AM

Are PETA members perfect or what? They just sit back and point fingers and never forgive anyone. Michael Vick is 1000 times more human than any PETA member. I support Michael Vick. PETA is a joke.

Posted by: Steve | August 28, 2007 07:47 AM

What Vick did was wrong and his punishment is coming. But now that PETA has made it's present, let's see them go after everyone with the same equal attention. We are now watching Peta in the wake of this. Remember justice is for all and not for some. No sport should kill animal: deer hunting, birds, duck,etc. Let's see what is yet to come.

Posted by: Terrell | August 28, 2007 08:19 AM

anthony
only animals that have been badly torn apart, no hope for survival are euthanized through peta.

2wrongs
you are stupid and a hypocrit!!!! outer actions give a pretty good idea of whats in a mans heart. hypocritical words give a pretty good idea of whats in a persons head. bullshit!!!!!
where were you when the children in md were stuck eating paint??? where were you when the four college students were executed????
I would choose your pit over you any day 'cuz I don't like bullshitting stupid hypocrits!!!!

Posted by: observer | August 28, 2007 08:27 AM

Whether you care about animals or not there is no reason to EVER EVER treat them in this manner. This was all inflicted by HUMANS for entertainment! I do not care what race, that is not the point. Lovely lady (Jamie Fox)and all you people that are trying to make this sounds like no big deal. You would not think this if you were treated the way these dogs were. Imagine being beaten, starved forced to fight. It is funny how people can become so defensive and selfish inless this was to happen to them. God help you all for being so selfish and make this about race!!! We will all be judged one day and animals are God's creatures too for those of you that think us humans are so much better! During times like this we should all stick together and try to make things right! And Michael Vick and the rest that were involved need to be punished and then hopefully there is hope and prayer for them to become better people.
I am a proud owner of a pit bull and she has never harmed anyone she is just happy to be loved!

Posted by: Melissa | August 28, 2007 08:30 AM

Dear Twowrongsdontmakearight,
You seem to be misguided about what PETA stands for and PETA represents. You go off about how Peta is anti human yet you (somehow) forget that this is an animal advocacy group. Why aren't you on a human rights organization's tail about not condoning animal abuse, even though we can all collectively agree it's wrong? As a proud member of Peta I also do other volunteer work with Amnesty International and at my local food bank. I ask what have you done for your fellow human? And animal abuse IS a human rights issue. If anyone is an animal abuser, I sure as hell don't want them walking around on my streets if they apparently like picking on the weak. I'm sorry if you feel uneasy or uncomfortable that people feel the need to speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves.

Posted by: Courtney | August 28, 2007 08:46 AM

First the NAACP coming out and trying to soft-pedal the barbaric actions of Micahel Vick and now Jamie Foxx paradig his own ignorant and brutal thoughts on the subject of dog-fighting. I will never watch another foxx movie. Like the bumper-sticker says-'the more humans I get to know, the more I love my dog'.

Posted by: carol bise | August 28, 2007 09:15 AM

What Jamie said was on point. You pitiful (peta) people care more about animals than human life. So quick to raise hell about an animal life and can care less if a sex offender is let go and still harming people. America finally got them a high profile Black athelete. You couldn't get OJ (and we all know he killed that white girl), you couldn't get Michael Jackson (for feeling on white kids), and you couldn't get Kobe (for having sex with trailer trash). So you finally found something that would stick. Tell me this pitiful (peta) people, when there is no one there to adopt these dangerous and deadly dogs, why is it okay to put them to sleep? Isn't that killing too? DUH! Mike should have trained Chickens (Cock-fighting) and moved down to Louisiana where we white people are doing it BIG TYME! Pitiful People.

Posted by: James | August 28, 2007 09:16 AM

To the young educated black man who is basically saying if Vick doesn't end up back in the NFL the country is in trouble- give me a break. Personally if he pays his debt to society and works on being a better person I don't care if he plays or not. But do not play down the seriousness of what he has done. I don't care where you come from- if you were born here you know that dogfighting is against the law. He knew it and he did not care. He is a typical young athlete (white or black) who lacks values and has too much money. He did not make a mistake- he made decisions. Now he has to pay for those decisions plain and simple. I do feel for his family and his fans but more that anything as a dog lover and owner I feel for the animals he helped systematically torture.

Posted by: patty | August 28, 2007 10:17 AM

To mackinnga

ever heard of the Civil war? Take a history class and answer your own question!!!

"I would like to speak in terms of praise due to the many brave officers and
soldiers who have fought in the cause of the war."
Abraham Lincoln
Source: July 7, 1863

Posted by: A | August 28, 2007 10:31 AM

to Nan Mclain,
You are a racist, Bigot, and just plan stupid. Your comments are ludicrous; to compare dogs to Blacks, Afro-American, African American or what ever you would like to call us is just plan ridiculous (I’m sure you use another word). And to make light of the fact that not long ago your people were hanging his people is nothing to be proud of. And it is for that statement and others like it, that this situation is now a racial issue. I think that your comment only reaffirms my earlier statement. That you would put a dog’s life over a human’s life. And the nerve of you to compare the stealing, beating, killing, torture and enslavement of millions of human lives, to the vile treatment of several animals is just insane. Unless you are comparing US/Them to animals? (Please don’t try to back petal out of this). It’s clear how you feel, the same way your ancestors felt, that We/Them are no more than animals and that was their justification for slavery in the first place.

Posted by: 2wrongsdontmakearight | August 28, 2007 10:57 AM

please people stop pretending that color is not evident in this case when majority of "animal lovers" in picket lines are white, and majority of Vick supporters are black. foxx was simply saying that even though people of ALL colors may love animals that ALL those groups don't personify these animals as actual people like other cultural groups do. did vick break the law, yes. should he pay for that, yes. as should paris hilton, nicole richie, and lindsey lohan, but i guess drunk driving/drug possesion and possibly killing a person, also illegal just doesn't warrant public outrage and demanded jail time.

Posted by: taylor | August 28, 2007 11:40 AM

POINT: You are misguided with your attempt to make Mike Vick a villian. Face it, most to all talented and powerful Americans recieve the "benefit of the doubt" when committing a crime; however, all this talk about Mr. Vick being "evil" and getting what "he deserves" is out of line. He fought dogs that are bred to fight. The only thing he did wrong was running an illegal enterprise. What he did is no more "cruel" then how we all treat "animals". Animals never ask us to tame them into our "pets" nor do they ask us to allow "legal hunting" nor do they ask us to build giant factories for the purpose of "mass production". KFC and others in the industry practice far worse animal cruelty practices and don't even get slapped on the wrist. Be serious and be real! Wake up and stop looking for the easy target. This man fought dogs! When they were not fit to fight, we figured it was best to put them down....i guess he could've just given them to the SPCA, waited for an adopter OR allowed the SPCA to "humainly" Kill the dogs.

Isn't hunting so much fun and cowardly! What is hard about hiding in camo, along agents that mask the human smell and shooting a high powered weapon...impress me by hunting with a bow and arrow or not at all.

WAKE UP!

Posted by: Andrew Holtz | August 28, 2007 12:05 PM

I support Mike and the entire family 100%. I think all of this mess was a setup from the beginning. I was born and raised in the South and know for a fact that dog fighting has been a part of the south forever. Not just dogs, but chickens also. But, for some strange reason, it didnt' become a crime until Vick posted the money for it. What's the difference in the good ole boys doing it in their backyards behind the whiskey bins and Michael Vick. Oh yeah, I just figured it out, Mike is a black man with money! The only crime Vick has committed is being BLACK with MONEY and the good ole boys can't deal with it.

Brenda, Marcus, and especially Mike, keep your heads up. Remember, Romans 8:18 says, that I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared to the Glory that shall be revealed in us. We love you and will always support you. We love you. Not for your money, but for yor heart. Unfortunately, man looks upon the outside, but God looks upon the heart. And I believe with all of my heart, that the Vick family has a good heart.

If you're ever in the Carolinas, holla at your real fans.

Posted by: Cheryl-n-Charlotte | August 28, 2007 12:11 PM

Mr. Vicks' actions are deep rooted and "very" personal. Here is a person whose heart is so black ('scuse the pun) that we should all be terrified. His apology is so transparent it falls on all of our deaf ears. We know where he is coming from. He is sorry he got caught, has no respect for creatures of the earth...is planning in his head how to hide his money..save his football career and going on with his good life.I say, Michael, you can't fool the animal lovers so don't waste time trying. What goes round comes round. I hope when you are sitting alone in prison your dreams are of those you have killed and tortured... not of all the football games you miss. Your apology is not accepteble and your remorse is not believeable. We have all been given free will and I have not read anywhere that your arm was twisted to participate in this horrendous activity. Even some of the "Big Bubbas" in prison are dog lovers so your number is up and over with. There, I feel some better.

Posted by: Dolores Van Winkle | August 28, 2007 12:25 PM

whether or not Michael Vick made a mistake, misjudgement, etc., it doesn't excuse the on-going discrimination against people of color. Peta may want MV to state that what he did was wrong, but where are they when a pet pig gets hunted down and killed with a knife. And, if you check out foxsports' blog about MV, you will see the racist and crudely worded sexual remarks of what those ignorant people want to happen to MV. Yes, they justify slavery using the bible, and it was okay for a young boy to be kidnapped, beaten, hung, stabbed and shot, then drowned just because he was Black and supposedly whistled at a white woman. This is their mentality, so what makes you think those people are going to go along with your program of not eating meat and not carrying guns to kill animals and people. Why don't you (Peta) go on foxsports and tell them that this isn't the way you are - i.e., inciting a riot against Black people and other people of color. There was even a mention of killing Martin Luther King all over again. And, just in case you can't find the blog, here is the web address msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7153596?forum_key=StoryComments&topic_key=7153596&page_no=101

Posted by: Jake B | August 28, 2007 12:53 PM

This is a Black/white thing. People are accusing Black people of playing the race card and calling Vick a murderer. What about those people in Louisiana who are still having cockfights. Peta - go there and protest. John Wayne Gacy was a murderer. Timothy McVeigh & Terry Nichols were murderers. Eric Harris & Dylan Klebold were murderers. MASS MURDERERS & ALL WERE WHITE. Then you have the KKK, hiding under their sheets, skinheads, etc., murdering innocent people, blowing up buildings, etc.

Posted by: Jake B | August 28, 2007 01:07 PM

Lovely Lady, please look up the word mistake. A mistake is calling someone by the wrong name, dialing the wrong number. He killed and tortured living creatures! We all have the right to pass judgement now that he has admitted to the horrific things he has done!

Posted by: killi | August 28, 2007 01:14 PM

Come on people, I love dogs too. Pets! Dogs like Great Danes, German Shepherds, Dobermans, Cocker Spaniels, Terriers, Collies, ets. But PIT BULLS. They have there place...where in the hell is PETA when PIT BULLS attack and kill America’s kids? As we read about oh, say 1 per month. Or the most recent attack in Washington State, a middle age lady while she slept. Come on PETA. Where were you then…. You hypocrites! A Pit Bull is not a pet. They are dangerous and untamed. They fight, they kill, they harm. I would just as soon kill one that crosses my path as take a breath of fresh air. They turn on their owners. They are extremely dangerous. PIT BULLS are/were meant to be aggressive. This sub culture does not fight Collies, Jack Terriers or poodles. Hell, these are PIT BULLS. They're just doing what they do...What a bunch of hypocrites you people are. Mike Vick should pay a fine, play football and watch all you idiots cheer for him the minute he scores his next touchdown. All you want is to be able to cheer for your athletes and then tell them how to live their life. How funny. ….I won’t even get into the Race thing. What hypocrisy. PETA get a life…………

Posted by: Ken Danforth | August 28, 2007 01:15 PM

PETA is a JOKE!!! You care more about a damn animal than human beings?? Why not crucify Boy George. He has killed thousands of men and women, young and old, all races. These are human beings. Get outraged and picket the white house. Human beings are being tortured and killed every day in Iraq and Afghanistan... I wouldn't hurt any animal, I don't own any animals and don't care to own any and would never own one, but I don't think their life should be put above a human life.... Get a life PETA (dog's) Go sit on a bone!!!

Posted by: Renee | August 28, 2007 01:16 PM

PETA is a JOKE!!! You care more about a damn animal than human beings?? Why not crucify Boy George. He has killed thousands of men and women, young and old, all races. These are human beings. Get outraged and picket the white house. Human beings are being tortured and killed every day in Iraq and Afghanistan... I wouldn't hurt any animal, I don't own any animals and don't care to own any and would never own one, but I don't think their life should be put above a human life.... Get a life PETA (dog's) Go sit on a bone!!!

Posted by: Renee | August 28, 2007 01:16 PM

James are you a complete dumbass! PETA... do you know what it stands for? For animals not humans! Just because they help animals does not mean that they value their life anymore than a humans. There are other groups out there. Some help humans, some animals, some blacks and hispanics...etc. Of course PETA is going to push for the safety of anything that is not capable to speak for it's self. That is what they are here for.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 01:25 PM

I can't stand you People!!! Why are you all so worried about animals instead of the "Human Race"??? Don't you think that maybe you shuld put forth all of this time that you have towards things that are a little more Noble? How about all of the Money you throw at Congress and Lobbyist's?? How about all of my Tax Dollars that the Federal Gov't is using to investigate and Prosecute this case?? Man, come on, let the Man be, he made a mistake, big deal, it's not like he ripped a Poddle out of a 8 yr old girls arms and smashed it on the concrete right in front of her!!! Lets get real on here!!!

Posted by: Brian | August 28, 2007 02:09 PM

Jamie Foxx is RIGHT!!! What about those dogs that kills people. Society has lost their minds. You are more concern about a dog. What about our kids that are getting killed, people starving, our troops getting killed. So, everyone at PETA KICK ROCKS!!! LEAVE VICK ALONE!! You are only doing this because he is BLACK!! I will be behind Vick all the way. All of you are HYPOCRITS!!! This lady in Ohio killed 17 animals where is PETA!! I can't see you!!! She only got 1 year. I don't hear Peta anywhere. AGAIN KICK ROCKS!! Find your money somewhere else.

Posted by: Tonya | August 28, 2007 02:27 PM

I think Vick was a complete retard for thinking he could fight dogs in his own backyard be the superstar he is he was bound to be caught!! and jamie foxx is the biggest dumbass in the world to defend vick b/c he has just put himself in the gutter with vick!!

Posted by: Cameron Longwell | August 28, 2007 02:31 PM

I think Vick was a complete retard for thinking he could fight dogs in his own backyard be the superstar he is he was bound to be caught!! and jamie foxx is the biggest dumbass in the world to defend vick b/c he has just put himself in the gutter with vick!!

Posted by: Cameron Longwell | August 28, 2007 02:31 PM

Jamie Fox insults all African Americans by calling dog fighting a "cultural thing." What an absurd and ignorant comment. Animal cruelty is something that prevails in the entire human race; not any particular group of people. By making this entire debaucle a "race" issue the focus has been taken away from what really happened. Stop using idiotic excuses for the cowardly acts of a man and his "friends." A MAN and his friends. Not an AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN and his friends. Simply one man who thought nothing of the suffering of the dogs in his care. Nothing more, nothing less. Period.

Posted by: Lori | August 28, 2007 02:58 PM

the most shocking thing here is not only that there are motherfvckers like vick out there, but there are people (like some of the ones posting here) SUPPORTING him!!!!!! what a twisted world this is!

Posted by: IN SHOCK | August 28, 2007 03:03 PM

My God!!!!!!I'm not surprised about Michael fox coments. Don't give me that bul s.....about he did a mistake and I do not want to hear because he is black I'm so sick of that story. Yeaaaaa everybody made mistake, but not does kinds of mistakes Michael you and vick can go to heal. I do not want to see Michael Fox any movie for the rest of my life he is the same like vick.

Posted by: Mirian Tanjutco | August 28, 2007 03:04 PM

i eat meat i love dogfight mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: dogfighting is ok | August 28, 2007 03:49 PM

You know, I didn't get the Boy George comment at first, but there should be protests against the war by all people. They are now offering $20,000 signing bonuses to join the Army, i.e., cannon fodder. And don't think that animals aren't being killed (or murdered, as that is the term some of you stated in this post). And those terrorists don't like dogs. I saw a video of them testing a poisonous gas on a dog tied to a pole. So, get over there to Iraq and protest the animal killings (murders).

Posted by: Jake B | August 28, 2007 04:05 PM

Cheryl and Charlotte, you have some nerve preaching religion!

Dog fighting goes on in the South because YOU Southerners sit idly by and don't lift a finger to stop it.

You let your good ole boys tell you what to do.

Maybe you really should be listening to Jesus.

Posted by: kelly | August 28, 2007 04:25 PM

I believe that Michael Vick has the misfortune to be blessed by God with tremendous Physical ability, good looks, talent enough to play a game better than all but a few men. These attributes allowed him to become famous and wealthy. What he did was wrong. There are no excuses to be made for it. I am curious though. Is Michael Vick the Only dogfighter in West Virginia? Who did he bet against and who's dog where in the pit with his dogs?

The fact that he was who he was set in motion a trait that is part and partial of life in this society. The Lynching Reflex when a black male is accused of something that offends cultural sensibilities. I don't think that this event would have reached this level of venom if Vick was a white Air Conditioning mechanic earning fifty thousand per year instead of being a black NFL quarterback earning 50 million per year. Thats what the hoopla is about. The obscene amount of money that this young man was earning. PETA does not want this man to be redeemed They want the Justice Department to take away his freedom and the NFL to take away his right to earn money playin football Take away his money that wll satisfy the mob.

Peta could take this opportunity to enlist this man into their effort to protect animals.

Posted by: Lloyd M Roberson | August 28, 2007 04:25 PM

When I read all of the hateful and stupid comments made about PETA, PETA members and animal advocates I truly understand why the world is in such bad shape. And then the bible-quoting ones add just that spice of hypocrisy that makes it all the more idiotic. This an animal rights blog; go to your local human blog and champion the rights of all humans. And for you racists, will you even help "whites" as well??? Using the race card gets you nowhere. For blacks: blacks in Africa enslaved blacks since ancient history, blacks in the south kept other blacks as slaves, that's history. And yes, the way the dogs were chained and beaten is similar to the ways blacks and other groups were treated. Christians were enslaved and beaten and killed for sport as well. Jews were enslaved in Egypt; slavery is not synonymous with being black. Guess what, humans are animals, we just happen to be the most dangerous one. And from the posts I've read on this blog, humans certainly are. Your poisoned hateful small minds are scary; scary like what Vick did to those dogs.

Posted by: Ana | August 28, 2007 04:34 PM

NO TONYA, YOU LOST YOUR MIND AND YOU'RE A LYING HYPOCRIT!!!
you're yapping about all the rotten things in the world, in the same breath you're behind a vicious madman, who tortured, drowned and electrocuted innocent animals!!! you're behind a cowardly lawbreaker who lied then admitted guilt to save his ass from a longer jail sentence!!! HYPOCRIT!!!

your asshole vick was a multimillionaire. why did he need to have a dog fighting ring for money???? peta doesn't make money on dogfighting!!! peta is self supporting!!! DUMB LIAR!!!


Posted by: observer | August 28, 2007 04:40 PM

To all the Vick supporters, and there are many of you here today???! Why are you not screaming foul to the federal gov't, ACLU, Civil Rights groups? Why are you on PETA preaching rights of humans? Stop blaming PETA for what happened to Vick. PETA did not raid Vick's home, PETA is not prosecuting Vick for dog fighting, and PETA did not make the rules of the NFL. Go complain to them and stop whining on here! Btw, Vick doesn't give a hoot if you support him or not. He doesn't even know you exist and he definitely won't be grateful. The only thing he cares about is his money!!!

Posted by: MLO | August 28, 2007 04:50 PM

brian you dumb ass!!!

why don't you ask vicious vick why he committed crimes that your tax dollars have to pay for him??? my tax dollars are being used for him too!!!!
why don't you ask multimillonaire vick to pay for his investigation, court costs, and prison time???

it's a shame that you,him, and the rest of his insane supporters are called part of the human race!!!! you're all sickening degenerates!!!

ANIMALS ARE BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE!!!! AND DON'T CONSIDER YOURSELF, VICK, AND THE REST OF YOU ASSHOLES TO BE AMONG THOSE BETTER PEOPLE!! YOU'RE LOW LIFE CRAP!!!

Posted by: observer | August 28, 2007 04:59 PM

I AM SOOOO TRIED OF HEARING ABOUT VICK.... DON'T GET ME WRONG I LOVE DOGS.... I OWN A YORKIE..... BUT THESE ARE STILL JUST DOGS.... NOT AN HUMAN... WE WERE NOT THERE SO WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPEN.... PEOPLE HAVE DOG FIGHTS IN MANY COUNTRIES.... I THINK WE SHOULD ALL LEARN A LESSON FROM THIS.... NOW BACK TO BIGGER AND MORE IMPORTANT THINGS... WHAT IS THE STATUS ON THE WAR??????

Posted by: Nicole | August 28, 2007 05:13 PM

Wow. Poor Jamie Foxx. All of you who DEFINITLEY WON'T SEE ANY MORE (OR ANY) OF HIS MOVIES are going to ruin him! Please. The same people who have enjoyed his movies in the pass will continue to enjoy them now..and one main reason for that will be the identifying factor that SOME of you don't have because you CAN'T (if you didn't get that there's a reason..no need to state it).....All of this talk about God and kindness to animals, blah, blah, blah. Go re-read (and it seems for most of you that should be to just READ) A BIBLE...Genesis, Exodus, Numbers...count how many sacrifices of animals GOD required. If you're going to argue a point, do so intelligently & accurately.

Posted by: payton | August 28, 2007 05:25 PM

Whoever thinks "we all need to take a chill pill" needs to re-think what they are saying. What needs to be done is the opposite - we must take every opportunity to spread as much information we can about cruelty to animals. The last thing we need to do is "take a chill pill" or shut up. It's called spreading awareness and people need to know exactly who they should make their idols and who is just a downright coward and should not be given any type of credit for anything. Jamie Foxx is just another stupid celebrity who obviously has absolutely no compassion. In my opinion he might as well have done it himself by making such ignorant comments. It's not about culture anything it's about cruelty to animals!!! Hello??!!

Posted by: Robyn Newkirk | August 28, 2007 05:29 PM

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard...James comment "Mike should have trained Chickens (Cock-fighting) and moved down to Louisiana where we white people are doing it BIG TYME"

You're just pissed because all the white people are killing your fried chicken, less chittlins to go around for your poor family. Go eat some collard greens or something.

And to the rest of you who have turned this into a black/white thing, slavery ended over 100 years ago. Don't blame US for some act that mistreated a great uncle of yours that you've never even met. Just shut up! There isn't even a single person on this earth who is still alive that had a slave or mistreated a black man, so get the hell over it already. No one gives a crap anymore about your dead great grand-daddy who picked cotton for some rich old white man.

Get back to the topic at hand - the death of animals used for entertaining purposes. No one cares that this guy is black. We only care about the fact that someone could torture something for the fun of it. People like that are weak and feel the need to over power. Next thing you know, he'll be beating his girlfriends.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 28, 2007 05:35 PM

Tonya: Why don't you learn how to spell before you try to make the most ignorant statement I have ever heard. No one will take you seriously if you aren't educated cause it means you know jack! Animals are more helpless than human beings because they cannot speak out against us or stop us from hurting them. You are basically saying Vick was justified in his actions because he's black! What a bunch of bull! You obviously don't know any of the work Peta does if you think they aren't there in every instance of animal abuse. Get educated or KICK ROCKS!!!
anti-sean's last sentence says it all. Also, read the commen made by A pissed off pitbull before you say more about your "cultural stereotypes." Those who say this has to do with culture are those who are creating stereotypes about themselves!!!

Posted by: Robyn Newkirk | August 28, 2007 05:38 PM

To "Mike,"
You claim you're educated and I won't even bother going into that, but your comment is totally wrong. YOU are making it a race issue, noone else. He has a family to look after? He wasn't "looking after" his family when he broke the law. He wasn't "looking after" them when he tortured those animals. A real man who takes care of his family does not compromise his ability to do so!!! Dogfighting is a crime. It is murder! A one year sentence is a slap on the wrist!! The judicial system needs to take this opportunity to tell all HUMAN BEINGS that dogfighting is not okay and that anyone who is involved will have to serve time! Justice must be served and any sentence he receives will be anything but justice!

Posted by: Robyn | August 28, 2007 05:47 PM

To "Renee,"
Human beings are responsible for all of the destruction that has and continues to go on in the world. All of those problems you mentioned.. are animals responsible for them? Do animals start wars between countries or pollute the earth? NO!! That's why they need help as well as all living things suffering at the hands of the evil (human beings). Check yourself.

Posted by: Robyn | August 28, 2007 05:53 PM

Jamie is right,,

Everyone deserves a second chance. Some people just want to crucify this guy. You are not God. The bible says that as long as he repents of his sin's. Who do some people think that they are. If Jesus can say father forgive them for they know not what they do when he was getting crucified on the Cross, then who are we. We are not God. He deserves a second chance, afterall he has apologized. Some people are just taking this to the extreme,there is not 1 that is perfect, but God.
I have found out that These people will never forgive him, but I can guarantee you that most of them will be in church singing come Sunday morning. I do not profess to be a religious man, but I would guess that most if not all religions have forgiveness and love at their core.
What Mike Vick did was illegal and immoral and he will pay for that crime in accordance with our legal system and if you believe he will answer to a higher authority. I have no problem with that, what I do have a problem with is how people, most of them white, insist on piling on and dragging this thing out and punishing him more than the courts and the NFL. It's the mob mentality of dragging someone out of jail in the middle of the night because you are not happy with the punishment.

Posted by: too many haters | August 28, 2007 06:21 PM

PETA has just used another method of lynching when the organization targeted Mike Vick. Dog fighting didn't start yesterday and PETA didn't just hear about. What about horse racing. A man rides the horse with a bit in the horses mouth. Runs it as hard as it can and whips it as he goes. If the horse gets hurt badly -- it's killed. If PETA is going to be self righteous - treat everyone the same!

Posted by: Angela Hart | August 28, 2007 06:21 PM

Ken Danforth,
Good job, you followed all the steps on "how to PETA-bash." You made yourself look extremely ridiculous since none of your points make any sense!! If you think PETA doesn't care about people as well as animals YOU ARE DEAD WRONG. PETA is for peace between humans and animals and for both humans and animals and is against the suffering of any living thing!! You say "Where's PETA when pitbulls attack America's kids." PETA is an animal rights organization for one, in case you didn't realize that, and PETA does not think training pit bulls to be aggressive, fighting, animals is fine either. Get your facts straight before you attempt to make a fool out of yourself again. You must really not know what you're talking about. Do you think we would really ask that Vick's case is treated seriously and then cheer for him? Inform yourself and then maybe TRY to make a point.

Posted by: Robyn Newkirk | August 28, 2007 06:27 PM

Wow this is getting comical. I will not reveal where I standing on this issue, however let me point a few things out.
PETA is for the ethnical treatment for animals, they do not believe that hunting, Fishing or eating animals of any kind is ok. Hunting, Fishing, mass producing animals for food is legal. Dog fighting is not. Killing animals for a “bet” is not ok for any culture. As much as PETA would like to stop these things, the fact is Hunting, Fishing and eating animals is legal. Dog fighting is not. Killing an animal for its fur is legal. Dog fighting is not. Killing an animal because it eats your garden is legal. Dog fighting is not. Putting an animal into a cage to create soft tasty meat is legal. Dog fighting is not. PETA can’t fix or protest everything that happens. PETA try’s to get the message out to the people abusing animals, especially domesticated ones like dogs. Dog fighting is not OK. Now they have a poster boy named Mike Vick (or Ron Mexico) to help them spread the words “Dog fighting is not OK” and you “bet” your ass (Not Donkey) they will exploit this.

Why is PETA coming after Vick so hard:
1. He abused dogs in the worst way.
2. He can now help spread the word and educate the people out there, that for some reason think it is ok to abuse animals, or think that Dog Fighting is a sport.

PETA is not an organization for human right so get off the “Where were you when this happened or that happened”. If you’re so concerned, then join their cause and protest. Look I eat chicken and fish so I can hardly call myself a PETA person, but I don’t fight my dogs or eat at KFC nor do I buy products that participate in the cruelty or testing of animals. And that is what PETA does, makes me aware!

Now PETA people, give Mike a chance to redeem himself, the killing of these dogs could be saving a lot more. I really don’t believe that Mike thought it was a big deal to be doing what he did, nor do I think he thought anyone would really care. Now he knows. Now he cares, maybe for the wrong reasons like losing 100 million and being banned from football, but it’s a start. Mike Vick already stated he needs to grow up. So Mike go correct yourself, prove it by being real and educating the people about your MISTAKE and well see you on Sunday………………now please put the cards away…..

Posted by: The Dude | August 28, 2007 06:37 PM

I love humans, I love learning from you and at the same time from me.
I love animals, I cannot have an interesting conversation with them as I can with people BUT in no way, their life is less precious than mine. WHY? Because I die, like they do. I feel, like they do. I need to eat, survive, like they do. I get sick, like they do. I think and can process more difficult thoughts than animals do, reason why I can CHOOSE whereas animals react more instinct like. Maybe we all think this difference makes our life more precious, but it is our "great gift", the human brain, that allows us to bullshit ourselves. Say whatever you want, choose to live however you like, maybe there isn´t even an afterlife in which all of us "will suffer" for our Baaaad actions so ¿what is the difference, right? Well, I am right now here with my dog, she is sleeping in my lap and the difference is that I could choose Right Now to kill her, maybe burn her, cut her and see what happens and while I am thinking this, she just keeps sleeping. ¿Does this makes her stupid, thinking most probably if I do it she will die and nothing will happen to me? no, just ignorant about my intentions. I am pretty sure she is not right now thinking of ways to how to kill me. THIS IS THE POINT! We can choose to be cruel or not with people, animals, nature. The sad thing I can see here is ¿if we cannot tolerate each other, and keep having meaningless wars where we kill each other for no other reason than the hatred we have been taught to breath and believe in and ultimately with CONVICTION we end up believing in it, then, STUPID to think animals should be treated better, RIGHT?... If we cannot even respect each other, human beings.
We do not all have to think the same way, but there are certain values we can all share, in my very humble opinion, one of them is LIFE. Without it, me, you and everyone wouldn´t be sharing this instant, at this precise moment. ¿Why not choose life for every other living being too? I mean, it is their right, we just happen to take it from them.

Posted by: Francel De la Huerta | August 28, 2007 07:09 PM

Dolores Van Winkle...your imaginations runs as wild as stevie wonder's creative mind. I wish you knew the prison system as much as you know how to communicate to dogs. When he goes to jail mam, he will be locked up with the "WHITE (excuse my pun) collared" criminals where its almost like living on a college campus : eg. Martha Stewart...be real.

Not that I'm defending mr VICK, but its comical that you and others do not accept his apology and remorse but if he had not made those statements, there would be more comotion about him NOT making a statement. Did you want him to cry?? Did you want him to apologize to all dogs in general whom can't understand him? Have you ever seen a public figure ever make an public apology??? Most times than not, they are reading a script. You all are more angry that he's trying to take a step towards the right direction!!! Its like a doubled-edge sword with you guys...DAM IF HE DO AND DAMMED IF HE DON'T...I hope when you sinned or made a very bad decision, you hope whom all were hurt was able to forgive you whether it was right away or in the future...maybe all who believes he deserves jail, like I do, should allow him to do his time and make up for it....if not, why don't you go live in another country that doesn't believe in those rights and chances.

I hope this entry makes it this time...

Posted by: anthony | August 28, 2007 07:27 PM

I USED TO LIKE JAMIE FOX, BUT WHAT A IDIOT,WHAT CULTURE IS HE TALKING ABOUT? MAYBE ITS THE BLACK/TOURTURE CULTURE HE TAKING ABOUT THATS PROBABLY IT.

Posted by: JEREMY AGUILAR | August 28, 2007 07:39 PM

ok dudes,
sure what happened was disgraceful, and he should go to jail for what he did, BUT, why the attacks on Jamie Foxx? he is expressing his views, just as you are here, i was thinking of joining PETA, but reding through your posts on this matter and others, i wont be becuas eyou are all elitits scum, and forcing your views on others.
everyone has the right to defend themselves and tohers, and thats all Jamie Foxx is doing, defending another human being, and if im not wrong, arent human beings animals to, in the vein of being MAMALS?
fools.

Posted by: tom | August 28, 2007 07:57 PM

This is pathetic. Apparently no one is able to have an opinion anymore in the country without people boycotting them. I don't always agree with everything peta does..I mean it's great saving animals, etc..but there are just some things I really don't agree with, but that's just my opinion..however you don't see me boycotting phat farm cuz russell simmons is affiliated..that's dumb. You have your opinions and make your choices and others make theirs. It's a free country if you don't like it start your own country..make your own rules and ban all meat products but until then you really should stay out of people's business and respect others opinions because that's just what it is, an opinion..there is no right and wrong in opinions..you may not like it, but tough...some people may not like yours.

Posted by: christine | August 28, 2007 07:57 PM

I am so sick of the RACE CARD! If I thought there was a problem with race, making a fair desion on something,I would give it much thought.Now the RACE CARD = CRY WOLF!!! IS ANYBODY guilty? EVER? NO MORE FOXX MOVIES FOR ME, AND BELIEVE ME I AM NOT ALONE!

Posted by: Laura | August 28, 2007 07:58 PM

vick, just because hes mankind, should not ever be called a human being. hes going to pay for what hes done, in the after life. whatever he says, how hes sorry... people will maybe forgive but never forget and god, i pray for his forgiveness and no matter what, he will face god, aswell as all the other bastards that treat animals that way, their time will come. judgement day!! think about all the dogs that are getting killed all over the world, especially in southern european countries like spain, greece, hungary and so on. people hang them on trees or throw stones at them until they die, kids 6, 7 years of age even do that. mankind are the beasts, we are the cruelest creatures on earth destroying everything, our environment. liek someone said she would pick any human over beast?? animals leave us alone, or did anyone ever see a deer coming into our backyard with a riffle shooting one of our kids so it can take it home to its fellow deers to eat or just to take a picture with it and thinks what of a great jobs it has done killing a human that didnt even know it was a target. one day when i have enough money what ill do is move to a place thats big enough to be home for as many dogs as i can take and ill go to the shelter and will travel to greece and take all the dogs i can, give them a home and ill take all the dogs no one wants. before id waste only one dollar on any so called humanitarian organization ill spend a thousand on saving a dogs life or any other animal, what makes all the "humans" in the world think that they have the right to decide whats beast and what isnt. who gave them the right to kill anybody, animal or human being. there only a few "human beings" in this world the rest is scum, trash, worthless. it makes me sick how the governments of all the different countries in the world spendd so much money for example to rebuild iraq and how they want to make a chnage in the kids of iraq or afganisthan. all thats going to happen is that those kids will grow up to be inhumane. people that will kill other people again, not worth a thing. angelina jolie goes and adopts children that propably will grow up to become rich, spoiled brats, that will spend a few thousand $ a night on partying and the next day more money on a $50 000 dress or suit or car, when she really should maybe just adopt a few poor animals that will be more thankful to her for just giving them a lil bit of food and attention than she can ever imagine and more thankful than any human being will ever be. but thats just my opinion, people can choose, some want to help other people and some choose to help the animals, which is what i do.
oh and i hope that anybody who ever was cruel to an animal will get punished, in the same way. may there be huge creatures waiting for all of you in hell, ready to do to you what you did to them, i will never be forgotten and you can start praying as i will, that afterwards you might be forgiven.

Posted by: nicole | August 28, 2007 08:08 PM

To all those saying we "care more about animals than humans". I am getting sick and tired of being told I care more about nonhuman animals than humans. I am not only an animal rights activist, I am also a human rights activist and an anti-war activist! You don't have to speak out against every injustice is a SINGLE sentence and EVERY sentence!
If someone is fighting child abuse do you criticize the person for not fighting cancer? If someone is fighting rape do you criticize the person for not fighting sweatshops? If someone is fighting to stop war, do you criticize the person for not fighting cruelty to seniors?
Caring about a dog does not mean you are no longer capable of caring about a human. There is enough room in my heart for all sentient beings on the planet. It's sad that your heart is so small that it can only hold love for one species.

I am not more concerned about a dog. If Vick forced children to fight and murdered them I would be just as outraged!

"What about our kids that are getting killed, people starving, our troops getting killed."

**I care VERY much about children getting killed, people starving, and our troops getting killed (ANY victims of war actually, not just ones from my country). Does that mean that I can't care about animal abuse?

Posted by: Melissa | August 28, 2007 08:44 PM

to ken danforth:
who do you think is resposible for pit bulls being the way they are??? not to mention that pit bulls arent mean dogs. people made them the way they supposibly are. people use them and take advantage of them, cowards that cant fight, they go and buy a dog to turn it into something they cant be themselves. and also you can train every dog to do whatever you want him to, its not the race, pit bulls arent mean they just dont let go go once they bit. you can turn a golden retriever into the same 'killing machine". and again its the human then that made it that way because we humans have fucked up minds and and all these ideas some people have of cruelty and torture and pain... no animal has that in them, its all a result of the sick minds of mankind. its like sayin all pit bulls are mean and dangerous, so therefor all black people must be like vick. so you said you dont even want to go to the race thing when youre to dumb to realize that you already did....know what youre talking about next time, dont talk about dogs, or anything, youd be better off just keeping your sh...hole or what you call mouth shut. period!

Posted by: nicole | August 28, 2007 08:54 PM

Michael Vick reminds me of a Sociopath, you know, people who don't have a conscience? Oh and now poor Mike is sooo sorry, yea sorry cause he's BUSTED!! Its all an act so he can kiss up to the judge for a soft sentence and kiss up to the stupid NFL who should never have anything to do with him ever again. He's reprehensible. And as far as Jamie Fox is concerned, I think he's just an ignorant ass. And by the way, those who are of the opinion that this is a "black thing", I guess it is since it was his "black" associates who turned his ass in.

Posted by: Donna | August 28, 2007 08:56 PM

Please people and especially Jamie Foxx, this is the 21st century okay ?! This is by no means a "cultural thing" as Foxx called it, every "so called culture" has done IT, black, white, asian, hispanic, etc, that by far does not excuse it for any culture. African Americans want every other race to view them as equals, then sure as hell stop making it a race thing!! I never looked at Michael Vick as black, white, green, etc, I looked at him as a sorry human being with little to no feelings for animal or human. I am a white female who was born and raised in the South and am probably the most nonracist person you will ever meet, aren't you glad I did not follow the "cultural thing" ??

Posted by: theresa Denton | August 28, 2007 09:01 PM

I understand that dogs is a mans bestfriend. People today are so hypercritical. You will witness a man betting his wife & say nothing, you see grown man on TV after conversating on the internet looking to have sex with children and say nothing. Yet you are so vocal when a dog is abused. No one wants to recall that about 40 years WHITE MEN HUNG BLACK MEN FROM TREES AS A SPORT. THAT WAS CRUEL AND UNCALLED FOR. BUT NO ONE LOST THEIR JOBS OR ENDORSEMENTS. WAKE UP AMERICA - RACISM IS STILL ALIVE & WELL.. WHY IS A DOG MORE IMPORTANT THAN A HUMAN BEING???????

Posted by: DJX | August 28, 2007 09:47 PM

I'm not god, I'm not jesus, and I'm not religious so don't tell me to forgive this MONSTER who claims he made a "mistake" not one, not two, not three, but 6-8 times. This sick rich SOB doesn't need sympathy he needs tough love. Prison for 5 years (with medical treatment) and a ban for life from the nfl regardless if he becomes an informant, anything less would be a disgrace and the condoning of his monstrous actions. Anybody who would excuse his actions because of "culture" is just as DISGUSTING and IGNORANT as vick is (jamie foxx doesnt surprise me).

Posted by: raven | August 28, 2007 10:04 PM

YES I WILL CHOOSE MY 3 DOGS OVER ANY HUMAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BETRAYED ME, STOLE FROM ME, DISRESPECTED ME, PUNCHED ME, HIT ME, KICKED ME, LIED TO ME OR GAVE ME ANYTHING BUT PURE LOVE...AND IT IS UNCONDITIONAL....MY DOGS ARE BETTER THAN ME AND MANY MANY OTHER HUMANS AND I AM A SOCIAL WORKER...AS HUMANS, WHY DOES ONE THINK THAT WE ARE SO HIGH AND MIGHTY...OH YEAH, THAT IS JUST THE AMERICAN MENTALITY.

Posted by: RONIE | August 28, 2007 10:58 PM

....BUT HE'S FOUND JESUS!!!! LOL!!!!!

Posted by: SATINKA | August 28, 2007 10:58 PM

Cheryl-n-Charlotte, dog fighting was already illegal, before Mike Vick was involved. Wow, you are really clued out! PETA and its supporters have always been against dogfighting, but people like you NEVER paid attention until a celebrity became involved. So you are the ones who are actually helping PETA's campaign by constantly keeping the story in the news! Thank you for that!

And for all of you who are complaining that PETA cares more about animals than the human race: 1. humans ARE animals you twits!, 2. somebody has to stand up for the rights of our fellow earthlings who do not have a voice, 3. human animals are the ones who have fucked up our earth so badly with so-called progress, industrialization and convenience, 4. non-human animals are not capable of the viciousness that humans have displayed over the centuries.

I do not love non-humans more than humans, nor do I love humans more than non-humans. I stand up for non-human animals because there are too many of you sick people out there who are destroying our earth and the other beings who live here. And, I would rather spend my entire life living in a forest or on an island with non-humans than spend time with all of you pro-Vick, anti-PETA, and anti-animal losers out there.

I have asked this question on other posts before: what the heck is so wrong with wanting to save animals? What exactly does it take away from all of you who do nothing but criticize PETA supporters? Does helping animals harm any of YOU in any way?

If you are all so sure that Vick has changed his ways (yeah, whatever!) then go and volunteer for a "Save Vick" organization, and stop wasting your time trying to convince animal rights people that we are wrong (you are wasting your breath - animal rights people are very devoted to the cause, and hearing some lame-ass insults from people who have nothing better to do is BORING! We have pretty thick skin, and we are out there, working in many ways, big and small, to make a difference for the animals who suffer at the hands of barbarians).

Posted by: Michele | August 28, 2007 11:14 PM

I am a member of Peta but i didnt know they killed animals. could someone who knows about this inform me please

Posted by: jennie tomlin | August 28, 2007 11:47 PM

tonya,

your the biggest idiot, nobody is against vick cause he is black, this shouldnt even be about his skin color. anybody who is picking on vick cause he is black is stupid. people should pick on him for what he did to those dogs. I dont care if micheal vicks skin color is neon pink, he is a dog killer who should burn in hell!! how would you like it if someone beat and eletrocuted your dog. GROW up animal haters

Posted by: carolyn | August 29, 2007 12:31 AM

What realy sewed this up for me, was what Vick's own father said: That Vick was fighting dogs in their garage even 6 years ago, despite his parent's objections. His father also said he didn't understand why Vick was denying anything because he has been doing this for many years. "That's his thing....that's what he does." Soooo, this is a behavior that he has engaged in for may years, NOT "A MISTAKE." Big difference!

Posted by: Laura M. Fleming | August 29, 2007 12:33 AM

Vick's "INMATURE" venture was CALCULATED, WELL THOUGHT OUT, AND PLANNED.

His "MISTAKE" was carrying it out.

When you have "MONEY" you are rich, but when you are "POOR" you find "JESUS".

So, to all Vick's supporters out there, continue "FIGHTING" the good fight for Mr. Vick, just don't "LOSE" or else you'll get "SLAMMED" to the ground, get "CHOKED", or "DROWNED" and then maybe, only maybe, you "WILL GET IT!!!!!"

Posted by: Enrique Amaro | August 29, 2007 01:21 AM

I can't believe some of these comments.
Michael Vick found Jesus because it is a pr move and he wanted to get out of jail.
This wasn't a mistake, this was murder.
People do also care about other people,
but that doesn't take away from caring about animals. Additionally, Jamie
Foxx is a total idiot. What a stupid
thing he said. And this thing about him being black is ridiculous, he murdered animals. End of story.

Posted by: Ann | August 29, 2007 01:22 AM

A few years ago,these poor creatures(pitbulls)as the 90 year old Senator called them.Were supposed to banned from the entire U.S.And now they are the most protected species on the planet.I have compassion for animals....BUT COME ON PEOPLE,TRY TO RUIN A MANS CAREER BEHIND AN ANIMAL THAT YOU WANTED OUT OF THE COUNTRY...BE HONEST,WHAT IS THE REASON BEHIND THIS SHARADE ?

Posted by: Logical | August 29, 2007 01:31 AM

I think you animal rights people are full of crap. First yes what vick did was wrong but what about these white men that hunt and guess what, they are not eating what they kill or horse racing, the way they beat the hell out of the horse to entertain people and i could go on and on, you people are full of crap, you just need vick to make a name for you because nobody gave a damn before this.
Tell you what if you attack the president or vice president or congress for hunting i will believe you people care as of right now i think you are a joke that needed someone famous for people to know and care who you are

Posted by: cherrypop | August 29, 2007 07:47 AM

You know, I didn't get the Boy George comment at first, but there should be protests against the war by all people. They are now offering $20,000 signing bonuses to join the Army, i.e., cannon fodder. And don't think that animals aren't being killed (or murdered, as that is the term some of you stated in this post). And those terrorists don't like dogs. I saw a video of them testing a poisonous gas on a dog tied to a pole. So, get over there to Iraq and protest the animal killings (murders).

Posted by: Jake B | August 29, 2007 10:18 AM

This is for the comment by Mike the educated black man,

Basically what I take from what you are saying is he should have know better, and not took part in dog fighting, because he is a Black Star and therefore if he was caught it would be much harder on him. It does not seem to matter that this is immoral, illegal, and takes someone with no compassion to even participate in!!!!

Jamie Foxx is a great actor, but Vick was a great football player so apparently you can have a lot of talent with very little morals. Great if I did not realize before that the world is headed to h*ll in a hand basket I sure do now!!

The media has shined a big light on the underground world of dog fighting...people that did not even realize it existed do now. People have had a chance to look at dog fighting up close, and there is NOTHING entertaining about it in fact it is down right disturbing that people actually watch and gamble off of innocent creatures!!! So for Jamie Foxx and people like him to start showing any support for this is STUPID!!! They need to keep their mouths shut for the simple fact their careers might just be the ones under fire next...Trust me animal lovers make up a vast majority of the United States, and they are not going to put up with this kind of ignorance from people any longer!!! It is one thing for me to go see a movie with Jamie Foxx in it, and not realize where he stands on this issue...it is by far another for me to go support his pay check knowing where he stands....so no more Jamie Foxx movies until he educates himself on animal abuse...one must often think that when supporting Vick they are doing more so for the reasons they are involved in illegal stuff as well!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dana | August 29, 2007 11:34 AM

Jamie, Vick, DMX and all the other assholes who tolerate and practice animal cruelty are inhumane, disrespectful, miserable and stupid. We should forgive as Jesus does, but we should not get over it. They did not make a mistake, they did these things on purpose and we should make an example of them. If we condone DMX's and Vick's behavior then we are just as bad as Jamie Foxx. Our only chance to end animal cruelty is to speak out and ask for justice. As an African American I am assure you that dog fighting is not a cultural thing, it is an asshole thing. This is directed to Tonya and Brian. We are not placing an animal over a human or the other way around-they are equal. Something is wrong with you to post such things. I would not be surprised if you were in Vick's backyard placing bets right now. You are unintelligent-as demonstrated by your comment "human race" human is a species. Go back to school. A dog's life is worth more than yours anyday.

Posted by: Jennifer | August 29, 2007 11:35 AM

first off i want to comment on what tonya had to say about PETA picking on Vick just because he is black is completely ridiculous. what Vick did is wrong and he deserves to be punished. and what you are saying is it is ok to strangle, electrocute and drown dogs is acceptable behavior?? you are sadly mistaken!!! PETA does great things and they may not hear about every situation that goes on in the world but the ones that do PETA does a great job trying to make a difference. he deserves the punishment and he made the choice to do the horrible things he has done and i do not feel one ounce of sympathy for him!!! and yes tonya, there are many other serious matters going on in the world I have 2 brothers who both have been to Iraq and one there now, but we the public have no control over the way Bush leads this country. PETA does make a difference and I am proud to say I am part of it!! sure there are still people who like Vick but throwing the race card is the picture is wrong!!

Posted by: kris shulfer | August 29, 2007 11:56 AM

If Jamies take in this topic is that its “a cultural thing.” then maybe Missippi should be allowed to own colored people because thats what they did in the past!!!

Posted by: Pat | August 29, 2007 12:37 PM

This is for the comment by Mike the educated black man,

Basically what I take from what you are saying is he should have know better, and not took part in dog fighting, because he is a Black Star and therefore if he was caught it would be much harder on him. It does not seem to matter that this is immoral, illegal, and takes someone with no compassion to even participate in!!!!

Jamie Foxx is a great actor, but Vick was a great football player so apparently you can have a lot of talent with very little morals. Great if I did not realize before that the world is headed to h*ll in a hand basket I sure do now!!

The media has shined a big light on the underground world of dog fighting...people that did not even realize it existed do now. People have had a chance to look at dog fighting up close, and there is NOTHING entertaining about it in fact it is down right disturbing that people actually watch and gamble off of innocent creatures!!! So for Jamie Foxx and people like him to start showing any support for this is STUPID!!! They need to keep their mouths shut for the simple fact their careers might just be the ones under fire next...Trust me animal lovers make up a vast majority of the United States, and they are not going to put up with this kind of ignorance from people any longer!!! It is one thing for me to go see a movie with Jamie Foxx in it, and not realize where he stands on this issue...it is by far another for me to go support his pay check knowing where he stands....so no more Jamie Foxx movies until he educates himself on animal abuse...one must often think that when supporting Vick they are doing more so for the reasons they are involved in illegal stuff as well!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dana | August 29, 2007 12:48 PM

Maybe you should see everything Jamie Foxx said before you crucify him too. He never said Dog fighting wasn't bad, he said it was a cultural thing, which it is. Go to urban america sometime and tell me what you think. Quit breeding hate towards humanity for the sake of some animals.

Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2007 12:58 PM

PETA is a joke. Their nothing but self richeous hypocritical do gooders. If you probe their personal lives you would find things quite the contrary to what they stand for. They saw an opportunity to take down an icon just to gain recognition. I say let the punishment fit the crime. Vick admitted that he was guilty and will pay for it. I accept his apology and so should the rest of y'all. He could have used his money and took it to trial but he was a man about it. PETA and all of these other self richeous groups were not there protesting for human rights during segregation. Human rights are being violated daily but it doesnt concern people like PETA because the victims are minorities. PETA puts more value on a dogs life. Before you judge me, I am against dog fighting.

Posted by: Bigb | August 29, 2007 01:00 PM

to anonymous, no one is mistreating a Black man? Tell that to Rodney King, tell that to Emmitt Till's relatives. Unfortunately his Mother died in 2003. Two white men came to the cabin of Mose Wright, Emmett's uncle, in the middle of the night. Roy Bryant, the owner of the store, and J.W. Milam, his brother-in-law, drove off with Emmett. Three days later, Emmett Till's body was found in the Tallahatchie River. One eye was gouged out, and his crushed-in head had a bullet in it. The corpse was nearly unrecognizable; Mose Wright could only positively identify the body as Emmett's because it was wearing an initialed ring. AND, there is still to this day discrimination. Your history book obviously was written to support your point of view, but there are thousands of articles and picture out there regarding the "mistreatment" of Black men and women. But, it wasn't mistreatment, it was MURDER!

Posted by: Jake B | August 29, 2007 01:31 PM

DJX:
once and for all listen to this: don't you know that when there are tsunamis and earthquakes rescue dogs are saving your life? are you so egoistic and heartless to think that a dog has not a honest right to be saved and protected from the human being, maybe just out of a feeling of gratefulness? are you so stupid that you cannot think that many of us peta people are also in human rights organizations? don't you really think??????? what kind of a stingy-hearted micro-brain are you? this here becomes seriously disgusting and please - once again: read the peta files! your ignorance is ridiculous and boring!

Posted by: allegro | August 29, 2007 01:53 PM

cherrypop:
your brain is full of crap; you come here for yo talk nonsense - all these things have been told again and again and peta even posted on white house people - read before you write!

Posted by: little big woman | August 29, 2007 01:57 PM

Bigb: I'm happy that you are at least against dog fighting! Fortunately we don't live anymore in the times of segregation and as far as I know: at that time PETA still didn't exist! For the rest please read Allegro's text!

Posted by: Black Man | August 29, 2007 03:01 PM

BUT HE FOUND JESUS!!! LOL!!!!!! ANYONE BACKING VICK BECAUSE THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN IS AN INSULT TO MOST OF BLACK AMERICA. THEY DON'T NEED THE LIKES OF VICK THE *ICK TO REPRESENT THEM. EVIL VICIOUS SICKNESS RUNS IN ALL COLORS AND THOSE WHO ARE CAUGHT COMMITTING THESE HEINOUS CRIMES SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW. IT'S NOT A CULTURE BUT A SUB CULTURE IN ALL COLORS, WE AS A SOCIETY NEED NOT TOLERATE THE VIOLENCE OF HUMANS OR ANIMALS ANY LONGER PERIOD, NO EXCUSES! SO STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS VILE EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING. BAN MV FOR LIFE, HE FORFEITED HIS PRIVILEGE TO PLAY FOR THE NFL, ALLOW THE NEXT KID WHO'S WAITING IN THE WINGS WHO DESERVES & WOULD GLADLY TAKE HIS PLACE.

Posted by: SATINKA | August 29, 2007 05:58 PM

NEW YORK - Leona Helmsley’s dog will continue to live an opulent life, and then be buried alongside her in a mausoleum. But two of Helmsley’s grandchildren got nothing from the late luxury hotelier and real estate billionaire’s estate.

Helmsley left her beloved white Maltese, named Trouble, a $12 million trust fund, according to her will, which was made public Tuesday in surrogate court.

While veterans are maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's the poor wittle doggies that make the news. One of my relatives had a sky terrier that was so mean the post office delivery guy ran over it in his jeep. That dog and several yappy dogs bit several people. When I was unloading groceries, taking two bags (one in each arm) to the house that sky terrier came around the corner at me. I kicked it in the head. No way was I going to let that crazy dog bite me. Also, a cousin had a pitbull and a pitbull mix. His Mother is in her 70's, but the dogs didn't bite her (luckily), but they bit her other son when he came to visit. The hospital treated him, but he didn't get stitches as they needed the deep wounds to heal from the inside out. And that stupid idiot still has pitbulls in his house. Thank goodness he doesn't have children in the house.

Posted by: Jake B | August 29, 2007 07:08 PM

Michelle, I know that it is hard to think about any animals being killed by any shelters, but there is no choice. In the summer you get 20 cats in/wk and you adopt out 10/wk. Most shelters don't have more space than for approx 100 cats, so you can see the cages fill up pretty fast, then what do you do? What about the animals that are brought in that are 17 or 18 yrs old with health problems, or vicious dogs that can't be rehabilitated? Do you really want them to end their lives staying in a small cage with no contact or affection. The numbers are just overwelming.Until people spay and neuter their animals,there will always have to be kill shelters. One of the reasons Peta started euthanizing animals from these small county animal controls is because the local animal controls were killing them by knocking them on the head, gas chambers,etc. Those shelters neither had the money nor expertise to do it the right way, which is a gentle shot of barbituate and an immediate death instead of having them shoved into gas chambers that might take as long as 15 mins. As sad as it is as long as there are more animals than homes, there is no other solution than euthanasia.Don't let these no-kill shelters fool you, most of them will only take animals that they deem adoptable. So what happens to the ones that are refused. They are taken out in the country and dropped off to starve to death, or thrown out of moving cars. A gentle, kind loving death is certainly preferable to that fate.

Posted by: nan mcclain | August 29, 2007 07:21 PM

a lot of talent and little morals, huh? isn't there yet another one biting the dust at ye old white house. and another one soliciting in a restroom for gay stuff. add clinton, add bush, monica too. the bush daughters' drunkeness was hushed up, but one of the bushes was caught with a fake prescription. pitbull - bull baiting has its roots in merry old england, along with bear baiting. hunters kill former pets at these new (located in the U.S.) safari hunts. the animals, including a lion, have to be hit with sticks to make them run so the "hunters" (murderers) can shoot them. where is peta? and where are you - yes the ones who talk about MV and JF. the blog on foxsports has been deleted because of the racist and sexist comments. it's okay if you're white, but not if you are a person of color. someone had the nerve to criticize a poster who wished Bo Diddly well and mentioned that he had succeeded with all the injustice that he had to go through. That person said Bo was an inspiration. Yet this other ignorant person said, "why bring race into it?" Listen to Billie Holiday singing "strange fruit" - i.e., the lynching carried out by white racists. History has been written from a white point of view and people post the nastiest things regarding MV when they should look at theirselves. but confession is automatically forgiven at some people's churches, so it is alright to call people of color animals, etc. And if that is the way white people want it, then peta should protest the treatment of people of color.

Posted by: Jake B | August 29, 2007 07:26 PM

to whoever is approving the posts. I have posted several times, so why does my post have to approved? your info at the comment site: (If you haven't left a comment here before, you may need to be approved by the site owner before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.)

Posted by: Jake B | August 29, 2007 07:28 PM

to anna - I posted this earlier when someone tried to say that no one is mistreating a Black man. Yes Africans had slaves, so did the Romans, etc. It isn't just a Black thing. But you have the nerve to try to justify it. This nation was built on the backs of Black people and to this day there is still racism. Go tell Rodney King that he was beaten by the cops because Africans had slaves, tell that to Emmitt Till's relatives. Unfortunately his Mother died in 2003. Two white men came to the cabin of Mose Wright, Emmett's uncle, in the middle of the night. Roy Bryant, the owner of the store, and J.W. Milam, his brother-in-law, drove off with Emmett. Three days later, Emmett Till's body was found in the Tallahatchie River. One eye was gouged out, and his crushed-in head had a bullet in it. The corpse was nearly unrecognizable; Mose Wright could only positively identify the body as Emmett's because it was wearing an initialed ring. AND, there is still to this day discrimination. Your history book obviously was written to support your point of view, but there are thousands of articles and picture out there regarding the "mistreatment" of Black men and women. But, it wasn't mistreatment, it was MURDER! I had pets and they were treated well. They weren't allowed on the furniture, but I paid thousands of dollars for them when they were sick. And, when my dog died of cancer on the operating table, and when I had to put my cat to sleep because he was filling up with fluids that kept him unable to breath, and when the other dog died of old age at 14, I didn't just give them to the vet to cremate; they were buried in an area set aside in California for pet burials. It cost more for that, but I felt they deserved it and I received a certificate for each one stating that they were there. So, let's see if you can stop the racist comments.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 07:38 PM

oh and Dana, we were headed to hell in a hand basket when the bushes took control

Posted by: Jake B | August 29, 2007 07:43 PM

Laura M Fleming. re: Michael Vicks father. the man wasn't in his life for over 22 years. and he had the nerve to ask MV for $700,000 to buy a house and a car, "because most fathers ask for millions of dollars". Just a gold digger, only the male species. check the facts before you post nonsense

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 07:46 PM

little big woman - you need to chill. do some research. whether peta posted on white house people or not, I haven't seen it and what about the hunters and gun sellers in PA? Protesting a shutdown of the software registering program to upgrade it. they are protesting because it is scheduled at the time that dove hunting and other hunting is scheduled. the NRA doesn't like to upset its members. will peta be there? we'll see

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 07:53 PM

oh, and peta, I know you said something about brittney and her new dog, but will you say something about the way she is treating her kids. feeding them junk food, then trying to clean their teeth with those whitening strips? even the dentist refused to do that.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 07:56 PM

allegro, DJX was pointing out FACTS. It was the same thing as when the Romans staked the Christians out to be eaten by lions. White people gathered in crowds to watch. Again, people have the nerve to say things against Black music. Billie Holiday's "Strange Fruit" detailed the lynching of Black people and there are pictures to prove it. I still haven't seen anything that peta has done to stop racism. The cops beat Rodney King like he was an animal. and I have read plenty of posts comparing Black people to animals, etc. Oh, they're lazy, etc. the nation was built on the back of Black people! You need to do some research and get a life!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2007 08:09 PM

allegro, DJX was pointing out FACTS. It was the same thing as when the Romans staked the Christians out to be eaten by lions. White people gathered in crowds to watch. Again, people have the nerve to say things against Black music. Billie Holiday's "Strange Fruit" detailed the lynching of Black people and there are pictures to prove it. I still haven't seen anything that peta has done to stop racism. The cops beat Rodney King like he was an animal. and I have read plenty of posts comparing Black people to animals, etc. Oh, they're lazy, etc. the nation was built on the back of Black people! You need to do some research and get a life!

Posted by: Jake B | August 29, 2007 08:10 PM

If Jamie Foxx thinks that this a cultural thing does that mean its ok for me to hang a black person from a tree because its a "cultural thing" I dont think so. I will never watch a movie or listen to a song of his.

Posted by: wendy | August 29, 2007 08:12 PM

Maybe you should see the whole Jamie Foxx interview. Yes he said it was a cultural thing but no he didn't condone it. Dog fighting IS a cultural thing. Go to suburban America and start looking in your back alleys. Go down in the boon docks where farmer Ned and Cousin Jed are fighting there two dogs. From our back country to our city streets dog fighting is everywhere. It's not Vick or Foxx that should be getting the finger pointed at them, it's our own society. It's our own government and schools that don't educate these inner city kids right from wrong. We'd rather ignore them, push them out and not give a crap about them until the rise and become hero's in our children's eyes and now the mistakes they make we care about and condemn. So who is really at fault?

Posted by: Mike | August 29, 2007 09:24 PM

HELLO. ONE MORE COMMENT FROM ME AND THAT IS IN REGARDS TO THE PERSON WHO STATED THAT IF MICHAEL VICK WAS NOT ALLOWED TO RETURN TO THE NFL THAT BLACK PEOPLE WOULD START A REVOLUTION..WHERE WAS THE BLACK PEOPLE'S REVOLUTION WHEN AN THE DAWSON FAMILY, WHO ARE BLACK, BURNED TO DEATH AFTER THEIR HOUSE WAS SET ON FIRE BY A MOLOTOV COCKTAIL AND THE BLACK DRUG DEALER WHO THREW IT IN THEIR HOME.

Posted by: RONIE | August 29, 2007 09:55 PM

Due to the actions of Michael Vick, the curtain has finally been pulled back to display the world of dog fighting. But still, it gets worse: I have worked with sheriff depts. & game wardens rescuing these animals, seeing dead dogs who lost laying bloated, black with flies, in tall weeds. Witnessing a half-eaten dog's body with a noose around his neck hanging above an alligator's cage. I have seen the depravity, the horrors. I have written so many letters to politician and advertisers asking for the curtain to be drawn back on animal cruelty. Nothing happened, because it's not a high priority.

Suddenly it is.

Listening to Michael Vick repent on TV made me sick, and doubtful. But I've rethought this, because I asked myself, "How many things have I done to others that I am not proud of?" The answer was plenty. Let's be honest, we all have regrets. Hopefully, nothing this barbaric. I know I have been forgiven by our Father, and grateful that my disgrace was not on display in the media spotlight.

Once, there was a evil man, a tax collector, who one day was struck done, lost his sight, and instantly repented his wrongdoings. He went on to become the author of most of The New Testament. His name was Paul.

Could it be that God is using Michael Vick to pull back the curtain? How else can this ignorant, cruel sport, be stopped and de-glamourized if not by someone like a Michael Vick?

Jaime Foxx' comments are ignorant. I guess the KKK was a cultural white thing, maybe Hitler was a cultural German thing. I really admired Jaime Foxx, but no more. I will never see another of his movies, unless he repents.

In the past, politicians, sheriffs, PETA, no one has been able to stop this ignorant "sport", which is now glamourized on MTV, magazines, and with Jaime Foxx.

Instead of throwing stones, let's pray for Michael Vick to have really, really repented, and that God will use this spotlight and platform to stop dogfighting, and most especially animal abuse against His other creations.

If Michael Vick has truly repented and asked God to save him, forgive him, and he fixes this barbaric "sport", Michael Vick may never earn much forgiveness from us humans, but he will earn God's. Paul (The Bible) is not remembered for being the evil man he began as.

Let's rethink this a bit. Let's pray for Michael Vick to find it in his spirit to begin a fight against dogfighters.

Posted by: dtrue1 | August 30, 2007 12:47 AM

To comment on DJX, you stated that "No one wants to recall that about 40 years WHITE MEN HUNG BLACK MEN FROM TREES AS A SPORT. THAT WAS CRUEL AND UNCALLED FOR. BUT NO ONE LOST THEIR JOBS OR ENDORSEMENTS. WAKE UP AMERICA - RACISM IS STILL ALIVE & WELL.."

That was 40 years ago - if that were to happen today, people would be facing federal charges, serve significant jail time, and even possibly death for treating another human being that way. Yes, we all agree that people like Emmett Till have been murdered by white people - and it was wrong, and the eveil do-ers went unpunished. But this is 2007 people.

Listen people, animals are abducted from backyards, homes and pet shops every day for fighting rings, lab testing, you name it. If someone took your beloved family pet and starved it, strangled it, made it fight until it bled all over the place, then drowned it, would you think that's ok? Who knows where the 60+ animals found in Vick's ring came from.

You all talk about horse-racing, and why isn't PETA doing something about that? Horses aren't beaten to a bloody pulp, they aren't kicked in the head, forced to defend their lives...they aren't harmed or hurt unless they break a leg running - in which case, they could do that in the wild and suffer for days and days as they die a slow and painful death. To be humane and keep them from suffering, they are euthanized. If you were in pain and you were suffering, you'd want to be euthanized too (mercy killing).

The bottom line here is that all of you people who have come here to bash us animals lovers have no business being here in the first place. If you want to fight about human rights, do join a human rights group. How much money or time have any of you contributed to your local human rights organizations? How many of you have stood in the marching lines? How many of you donate food to your local pantries, or help your elderly neighbors with their electric bills or gas bills in the winter when they are cold and can't afford to run their heat?

None of you can say you do that - yet those of us who are hear decide to contribute to PETA to aid animals in need of assistance - medicine, food, shelter, and if needed, euthanization. Don't come here all "holier than thou", preaching about "what have you done for whatever cause" when you yourselves haven't contributed one single thing to our society! We choose to help animals...and I personally help in many other areas of our world such as hunger, poverty, environment, human rights, nature, endangered speices, ocean and great lakes cleanup and conservation, and the list could go on and on and on.

What have YOU done for our world? For your country? For your city? For your neighborhood? Nothing, so BACK OFF and let us animal activists stay active in what we do which is love and support animals.

Posted by: andimal23 | August 30, 2007 01:49 AM

And by the way, I forgot to mention this - I don't believe one word of Michael Vick's apology. Had he given a public apology without a smirk on his face the whole time, I would have possibly taken him seriously. But knowing that he only issued those statements because it's "good PR" and because he is about to lose everything, he only did it to save himself from further drama. He couldn't even keep a straight face when he made comments about "what I did was wrong" and addressed the children of our nation by telling them he did bad things. It was a bunch of HOOEY!

If Michael Vick comes out of jail and decides to take some time and spend some money creating awareness about animal abuse and other things along those lines, then and ONLY THEN will I take him seriously and give him "a second chance".

Posted by: andimal23 | August 30, 2007 01:53 AM

PETA cares for humans as well as animals. This is an animal rights group. That takes nothing away from thier preservation of human life as well.

Posted by: EG | August 30, 2007 02:45 AM

Get a life PETA, I didn't like dogs before, but now I hate thim. Thank you for that!

Posted by: ketryna | August 30, 2007 09:16 AM

"Shoot dove and other birds of prey "


LOL, a dove is a bird of prey now! Maybe if your a sunflower!LOL

"Who will be next on Foxx’s list of downtrodden misunderstood abusers to defend, Pol Pot?"

Another LOL as pol pot was a vegan and one of your own! LOL

Posted by: Mars | August 30, 2007 09:41 AM

wow. sick vick has a bunch of loonies supporting him!!! not surprising!!!
just like him, they're stupid, liars, bullshitters, pro crime, psycho, pro evil and pro cruelty!!!!

PSYCHO VICK SUPPORTERS, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT PSYCHO VICKS DAD SPEAKING OUT AGAINST HIM??? IS HIS DAD A RACIST??? RUINING VICKS CAREER?? JEALOUS 'CUZ VICK IS RICH??? Hey come on, let's hear what you have to say!!!

and in the latest news, vick the lying woos wants to hide behind a womans skirt now!!! he wants to be interviewd on Oprah, USE HER, use her influence so that she can help to save his ass!!!!

OPRAH IS TOO SMART AND TOO RESPECTABLE TO LOWER HERSELF TO SUPPORT SCUM!!!

Posted by: observer | August 30, 2007 10:18 AM

Dog fighting is not a cultural thing, it is a sick need to see helpless animals hurt and killed, it has nothing to do with skin color-I don't even know why he brought that up, I guess he thinks that attitude makes everything right-all it does is show that world how cruel hearted he is, he will take the side of a man who is involved in dog fighting just because of the color of his skin, but he doesn't see the cruelty involved in dog fighting-Jamie Foxx has some issues that I hope he sees someday. The world is not black and white, you have to be able to see other colors to have an understanding.I hope Micheal Vick pays for what he has done and the others who think dog fighting is cool, I hope they all go down and people see them as they are. As for Jamie Foxx-go home no one wants to hear from you.

Posted by: Kelly | August 30, 2007 10:25 AM

I used to be a Jamie Foxx fan. He just lost another fan. I will not support anything he does from this point forward.

Posted by: sherri | August 30, 2007 11:05 AM

Defending Vick is the only cultural anology I see here, black to black. Vick is undefendable thats why he gave up. he would still be dogfighting if he wasn't caught. I hope the Judge will give him a stiff sentence so he has a lot of time to "grow UP". Write letters to the Judge that will help stiffen the sentence!

Posted by: Elizabeth | August 30, 2007 11:38 AM

I used to be a fan of Jamie Foxx, until I read this article. Dogfighting, hunting, fishing, slaughter houses, any form of animal abuse is barbaric and uncultured. We have the resources to "humanely" slaughter for food, why aren't we? What Jamie is saying is just like saying I can break the law because others are breaking it, which is rediculous. Sorry Jamie, you just lost a fan forever.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 11:59 AM

The Hanson’s were arrested and charged with a Class A animal cruelty misdemeanor, which is punishable of fines up to $1,000 and up to one year in jail. The Hanson’s were also banned from the property by a judge until November 17th so that animal rescue groups could recover the dogs they had sent to EDNAH after rescuing them from the hurricanes.

Volunteers from the Humane Society of North Central Arkansas are taking care of the animals that remain on site. One volunteer reports that at least 12 of the dogs had not been let out of their cages since they were brought to EDNAH after the hurricanes. Another volunteer reports that when he went to change the litter for 2 young, gray cats, there was an inch and a half of crud—feces and urine—with maggots in the litter box in their cage.

The conditions at the facility were a nightmare. Dogs were found standing in their own filth. Many of the dogs were aggressive because their paws were burning and bleeding and in pain.

When Tammy Hanson was released on bail, she reportedly told a local newspaper that the dogs were being cared for, that the cages were being cleaned daily and that the animals were being fed and watered daily.

Tammy Hawley, a program coordinator for the HSUS Southwest Regional Office has been deputized by the Baxter County Sheriff’s Office to be the incident commander of the emergency sheltering team. The team consists of expert volunteers and trained dog handlers from the HSUS, Pasado Safe Haven, the ASPCA, the American Humane Association, the United Animal Nations and the North Central Arkansas Humane Society.

In 10 days these volunteers have built dozens of new dog runs, fed, watered, walked and provided emergency veterinary care for the hundreds of animals.

They’ve even built a maternity ward to house the new mothers and nearly 20 puppies. They are in their own pens, on clean blankets and out of the chilling air and rain, with fresh food and water. Best of all they no longer have to compete with some 30 other dogs for food and water.

Many of the animals are on antibiotics for persistent infections; others are being treated for parasites both internal and external, advanced heartworm, fight injuries and abscessed wounds. The goal is to have all the dogs vetted, microchipped and photographed. The photos will be posted at http://www.petharbor.com to give owners a chance to identify their animals.

As this casefile was being written the Baxter Sheriff’s Department is trying to get the Hanson’s to surrender all of the animals before the case goes to trial. go to
www.inhumane.org/data/T&WHanson.htm and see pictures of the abusers and pictures of the abused animals that were supposed to be taken care of while the Katrina victims rebuild their lives

Posted by: Jake B | August 30, 2007 03:32 PM

Vick's dad (sperm donor) hasn't been in his life for over 22 years. He had the nerve to call MV to ask for $700,000 for a car and a house. He said that wasn't asking for too much as other dads ask for millions of dollars. just like lilo's dad and mom - dad's a deadbeat and mom was going out drinking with her underage daughter.

Posted by: Jake B | August 30, 2007 03:37 PM

just wondering when my posts will appear. (If you haven't left a comment here before, you may need to be approved by the site owner before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.)
I have posted several times and it seems like forever to see my comments. ?

Posted by: Jake B | August 30, 2007 06:28 PM

Billy Holiday 1940 isn't that far away.

Southern trees bear a strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
Black body swing in the southern breeze
Strange fruit handing from the poplar trees
Pastoral scene of the gallant south
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth
Scent of magnolia sweet and fresh
and the sudden smell of burning flesh!
Here is a fruit for the crows to pluck
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck
For the sun to rot, for a tree to drop
Here is a strange and bitter crop.

AND, a Black man was hung in the 1990's in Concord California. So don't try to tell me that racism is dead and we need to get over it. I see it when the waitress serves me last when with my white co-workers. And it happens over and over again. Racism, the klu klucking klan hiding under their sheets, and skinheads and the aryan (or however they spell it) want to exterminate everyone. the middle east is still a seething area of hatred. the hunters and the nra are protesting a shutdown and upgrade of Pennsylvania's weapons computer system because it will be dove hunting season. a pet lion given to a so-called refuge is hit with a stick so it will run so the hunter can kill it. dick cheney shoots his friend while hunting birds, and the birds have to be driven out and also hit with sticks so that they fly to give dick & friends a real shot. it didn't start with MV or Jamie Foxx. so look in your mirrors and get past your bigotry and see the real facts. of course, even though I have posted before, this may or may not show up, but I will post it elsewhere peta.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 07:16 PM

Most of you are missing it. Whether Michael Vick goes to prison or not, whether you watch/listen to Jamie Foxx or not, whether you're an animal lover or not, whether you eat meat or not, whether you believe there is still racism or not: Do you truly think all of this is as important as it's being made out to be? And before ANY of you say it: I already KNOW what this site is for and I know what PETA represents. Still doesn't matter. Love God, and love your neighbor as you do yourself. If you're living by those principles -all else follows. You won't be cruel to animals nor to people, won't be inclined to bash others no matter what they've done (because like God, there will be an element of compassion that's missing when you're not walking with HIM), you will be more prone to forgive (for the same reason as above: and oh, by the way, if Michael is or ever becomes truly repentant -regardless of how you feel about it - he WILL be forgiven by God). A lot of you are overly-expressing your love for animals and what you would, will, or would not do, your outrage at what Michael Vick has done, etc. Don't be deceived. For all of your righteous acts, kind-heartedness, willingness to "stand in the gap" for those without a voice - in the sight of God you are the SAME as Michael Vick (all sinners; nothing you can do that makes you a "good" person) - unless you're covered by the blood. Startling fact, isn't it? Michael could be accepted by God, and many of you (even with all of your good works) never will. Stop looking - so harshly - at what Michael's done - and make sure you yourself are in right standing. Examine your hearts; that's what you're saying he should have done, but yet your expressions are showing many of you to be just as "cold-hearted" as you believe him to be. Love animals, but love GOD and humankind more. And that's HIS command.

Posted by: Payton | August 30, 2007 11:47 PM

He's put his people down as far as I can see."Man's best friend" is what is at stake here. Our humanity is being questioned. Are we a civilised people? How humane are we? It's not just a Black American thing, in what country isn't it a problem? Wherever there are the poor and the uneducated there's animal fighting, all around the world. Historically,look at what the Romans were doing until they began to look at things in a Christian way. In our Great Grandparents time, even earlier maybe, to show our humanity we set up societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals...

Posted by: JA | August 31, 2007 04:13 AM

THIS IS TO KETRYNA...YOU DID NOT LIKE DOGS BEFORE AND NOW YOU HATE THEM....YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME ISSUES...WHEN PEOPLE HATE, THEY USUALLY FIND DISGUST WITHIN THEMSELF...I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU...JUST LIKE YOUNG CHILDREN, ANIMALS ARE INNOCENT...YOU ARE A VERY IGNORANT BEING.

Posted by: SARAH | August 31, 2007 09:23 AM

anonymous

No one has justified slavery, least of all me. What I said is that all peoples have been subjected to it throughout history including blacks enslaving other blacks. That is NOT my history book, it is history. You have a problem with reading comprehension because you obviously misconstrued what I had written. Perhaps your're the racist. I am not a racist but I know many blacks who are just like anybody else can be.
This is AN ANIMAL RIGHTS FORUM!!!! GO TO THE NAACP AND GIVE YOUR COMPLAINTS, MY INTEREST IS THE ANIMALS!!!!!
ANIMAL ADVOCATES ON THIS BLOG ARE INTERESTED IN SAVING ANIMALS!!!! CUT THE CRAP ABOUT RACISM!!!! THIS IS NOT THE FORUM FOR IT.

ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!!!!!

Posted by: Ana | August 31, 2007 04:46 PM

Oh, and I think I forgot to mention that the Hansons who took $ and animals are dying due to their neglect are WHITE PPL. only subject to one year in prison, yet you bigots want Michael Vick to serve life for murder? the hansons murdered too. where are your protests? oh, they're okay cause they are WHITE.

Posted by: Jake B | August 31, 2007 08:03 PM

Please give the VICK a chance he has apologize....

Posted by: Joii_ | August 31, 2007 08:53 PM

GO VEGAN!

Posted by: SATINKA | September 1, 2007 04:58 PM

Mike
puh-LEEZ. Can't you just HEAR everyone's eyeballs rolling at your calling the Mike Vick thing "racist"?

Posted by: Rosemary | September 1, 2007 05:14 PM

This is simple. Its obvious the founders and members of PETA are a bunch of Honkies. Its hard to believe all you losers are vegetarians. And as much as yo like to believe it is not a race thing, everyone knows it is. The government targets crimes that black people are more likely to commit to raises the punishment on that.
However, hunting deer, moose, and whatever else you guys hunt are legal just so you can put a head on your wall. You guys make me sick.
If you guys are going to stop listening to Jamie Foxx or watching his movies, and blast the name of Michael Vick, they really don't give a damn about you guys. You are not really fans. How about you guys continue to make love to your animals and continue not having a life.
Maybe we should be more concerned with people getting murdered, kidnapped, raped, etc. instead of spending all this time and money on animals. Can't you put your efforts to something productive.
How about putting this effort to the six boys in Jena, LA who are wrongly being persecuted? On my bad, I forgot they are not animals so they are not worth your time. Sorry for mentioning it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 1, 2007 09:26 PM

"THE ANIMALS OF THE WORLD EXIST FOR THEIR OWN REASONS. THEY WERE NOT MADE FOR HUMANS ANY MORE THAN BLACK PEOPLE WERE MADE FOR WHITES, OR WOMEN FOR MEN"--ALICE WALKER black woman novelist and author of The Color Purple.

THANK YOU ALICE WALKER
GO VEGAN!

Posted by: SATINKA | September 2, 2007 03:05 PM

anonymous: I am so glad to see that someone wants to help people who have been victimized. What exactly have you done about those situations? Whom did you email? What senators did you write or email? Are there no forums on the vast internet for that so that you have to come here and use racial slurs and names? You better believe I am going to stop supporting Jamie Foxx. YES I AM! It doesn't bother me one ounce if he or Michael Vick never knows who I am. Your thinking of people who love animals that you turn into something perverted says quite a bit about you.

This is an animal forum and you sound like a racist to me. Quick question anonymous, what is my race?

Posted by: sherri | September 2, 2007 04:50 PM

I agree with jamie foxx anyway dogs do hurt people and can kill them.wake up people when i was younger we had a dog for 8 years she bit a plug out my mother arm so don't act like dogs don't turn on people

Posted by: tameshia | September 4, 2007 02:43 PM

if we as people don't give vick a second chance GOD will.he should do time for his crime but don't take away his career everyone deserve a second chance

Posted by: tameshia | September 4, 2007 02:46 PM

Will you goofball people stop claiming that those of us who love our animals don't love human life as well? Of course we do. What a ridiculous and assinine thing to say.

The sad part is that the animals we care about have no voices other than their cries of pain and fear, especially when inflicted by some dumbass getting his or her jollies.

Don't insult me or anyone else who loves animals. They are the silent victims who can't defend themselves however, I wouldn't feel much of a loss if a dog who's had enough abuse went for the jugular of someone trying to kill it and finished the job first.

Respect all life of especially those lovely creatures who give you nothing but love. If you can live with yourself and do purposely harm or maim animals, Lucifer will be more than happy to add you to his list of derilicts and then let you fry and suffer for a while.

Karma has a strange way of showing its face so don't be surprised when it comes knocking on your door.

Posted by: Drew | September 4, 2007 03:38 PM

the dogs could have chosen not to fight. when put in the pit they could have just sat there, the dogs made a choice too... unless you animal hippies all of the sudden now don't think dogs are smart enough to make choices, or anything like that.

Posted by: Nick | September 5, 2007 01:36 PM

I cant believe this article. How in the world can any sane person compare a slave enforcing murderer(Pol Pot) to a dog fighter (Vick). But nobody ever said dog lovers were smart.... or right all of the time, so you get away with one....

Posted by: jeff | September 5, 2007 06:48 PM

To quote "Anonymous"..."Maybe we should be more concerned with people getting murdered, kidnapped, raped, etc. instead of spending all this time and money on animals. Can't you put your efforts to something productive."

Human beings cause murder, kidnapping, rape, etc. Dogs do not. Human beings know right from wrong and choose to perform those horrible acts on other humans.

Do you donate to your local shelters for battered women to help fight crimes like rape and domestic violence? Do you support your local police chapter or state funds to help fight crimes and pay for equipment that help find murderers and kidnappers?

We support animal rights and pay for these animals to be protected because they do not have a voice for themselves. They can not make a CHOICE to fight or not too fight. If they don't fight, they die. If you were put into a room with another human being to fight for your life, you'd be sure to do whatever it takes to save your own hide.

Again, those of you who come here to bash us for caring for animals - we donate to these causes specifically to help these animals. Do I donate to my local police? Yes. Do I donate to my local fire fighters? Yes. Do I donate to education? Yes. I donate to all kinds of areas where there is a need.

Judge not lest ye be judged. I'm not judging you BECAUSE YOU DON'T contribute to society. However, do not judge me because I choose to do so.

Posted by: andimal23 | September 13, 2007 03:13 PM

peta is full of it. they have their members dress up as playboy bunnies to protest petsmart's treatment of rabbits. I go in the supermarkets and there are dressed rabbits all the time. why aren't they there? they want to post things about Michael Vick, but not about the kingpin of dogfighting.
He's been called the "Godfather of dog fighting," the "dog fighting don," and even the "Babe Ruth of dog fighting." Since March 9, Floyd Boudreaux is being called something else: an accused felon. On that day Louisiana State Police arrested Boudreaux, one of the most infamous dog fighters and breeders in the United States, along with his son Guy.

The arrests, which sent shock waves through the dog fighting world, were the culmination of a three-month effort by state and federal law enforcement agents, The Humane Society of the United States and the Louisiana SPCA.

Father and son were both charged with 57 felony counts of dog fighting and two counts of animal cruelty, following an early morning raid on Boudreaux's property in Broussard, Louisiana.

In addition to the state felony charges, Boudreaux and his son Guy could face federal charges for selling and transporting fighting dogs across state lines. All told, they might spend a total of ten years in prison for each of the 57 charges. For 70-year-old Floyd Boudreaux, that might as well be a life sentence.

Scarred Bodies and Temperaments

What investigators found on Boudreaux's property is typical of serious fighting dog operations: row after row of pit bulls, each tethered by a heavy chain to a small, ramshackle hut. Several sad-faced dogs bore a medley of deep scars on their muzzles and limbs, the hallmark of hardened fighting dogs.

Elsewhere in the compound, investigators found wooden ramps and treadmills, commonly used to train dogs in strength and endurance.

Laura Maloney, Louisiana SPCA director, said it was heartbreaking to see the dogs tethered outside in rows of five, wearing grooves into the muddy ground at the limit of their chains. Although most of the animals were healthy in spite of their scars, several were extremely aggressive. Because of their unsuitability for adoption, all of the adult dogs had to be euthanized.

Implications for The Shady World of Dog Fighting

What distinguished this bust from any other in recent years are its implications, both immediate and longstanding, for the world of dog fighting. Boudreaux is more than a backyard breeder—he is one of the main purveyors of some of the world's top fighting dog lines.

According to Sandy Christiansen, regional coordinator for HSUS's Southeast Regional Office, "Virtually every major bloodline of fighting dogs has the Boudreaux name somewhere in the pedigree. This guy's influence on the world of animal fighting has been huge."

More than any other person, Boudreaux has shaped the profile of the modern fighting dog. Specifically bred for maximum "gameness" (a determination to fight on, even in the face of certain death), dogs from the Boudreaux line are considered top-notch animals in the fighting world, fetching prices up to $10,000.

It's a quality that brought Boudreaux-bred dogs accolades from dog fighting enthusiasts, but little else. Even the most revered fighting dog lives the majority of his lonely life at the end of a short chain, with no social interaction save grim excursions to the fighting pit or breeding stand.

A Broussard neighbor said, "What bothers me the most is that they're on three-foot chains. Big, heavy chains. They spend their life under a chicken coop on a chain. That is not a life...that's horrible."

Nobody is Untouchable

As infamous as Boudreaux has been in the animal protection community, he has been equally admired in the dog fighting subculture. As far back as the 1950s, he appeared on the covers of animal fighting publications, posing alongside prized fighting animals. Today, his likeness graces t-shirts and other coveted dog fighting memorabilia.

It's no surprise, then, that Boudreaux's arrest has aroused rabid ire in the dog fighting world. Internet dog fightin

Posted by: Jake B | September 18, 2007 09:23 PM

Dogfighting and slavery? Please stop attacking everyone that doesn't view things as you may. Also,cultural doesn't mean color. What you are lacking is compassion. The hatred in many peoples heart will land you where you all say Vick is going. Get a life we are all entitled to an opinion.

Posted by: ALove | September 30, 2007 12:04 AM

I just found out about Foxx's ridiculous comments. I like him as an actor but cannot believe he is SUCH AN IGNORANT MAN! I have lost ALL RESPECT FOR HIM and vow never to see another one of his movies again.

Both Foxx and Whoopi Goldberg are crazy (to put it nicely).

Posted by: Jen | November 5, 2007 01:26 AM

Screw this cultural bullshit!!!It is not black,Southern,American,Puerto Rican,or anything. Who elects these people spokesman for their culture?You are not spokesmen,if your ego is that large,I don't want to know what you're covering up that is soooo small.

Posted by: Rebecca | November 6, 2007 12:17 AM

i think that all of u peta people need to calm down. he appologized. leave the man alone world. Vick if u are reading this send me somthing to my email. HOLLA BACK

Posted by: Paul Savercool | November 16, 2007 11:27 AM

As a medical field worker, I feel that Vick needs to be treated just like he treated the dogs and cat's that he abused. He has no remorse other than the fact that he and his buddies and family lost some money and was embrassed because they got caught. Hope he will pay in the very end. And anyone who thinks that he paid for his crime, should be treated the same way the animals were treated. Let's see how they feel.

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