Guaranteed---All of Vick's travel history including air travel and toll booth cameras will place Vick in Virginia during those dog fights, and crossing state lines. Also, you wait and see someone took video at those dog fights, it's just a given. Michael Vick should never play Football again!

Posted by: Debbie Mahoney | July 26, 2007 06:18 PM

I wish all of you wake up!!!
Stop treating animals like they were your children..We have more important issues like war in the middle east.Dog Fighting has been goning on for 100 of years and Its not going to stop.Pets are not more important than humans.Just think how the rest of the world is seeing this issue.They think we are fools.

Posted by: William | July 26, 2007 06:44 PM

The poster says it all, it's perfect.
Prosecute ALL dogfighters. Justice for ALL victims.

Posted by: Ana | July 26, 2007 07:09 PM

I hope this is all over soon. Vick should be convicted and punished to the fullest extent of the law, thus sending a message to the public that dogfighting is absolutely unacceptable. Hopefully this case will help strengthen America and the rest of the world against dogfighting.

Posted by: Brianna Fritchey | July 26, 2007 07:12 PM

It is unfortunate that PETA vslues the life of animal more than the life of human beings. I can accept your love of pets; however, the manner in which you attack others who may not share your passion for animals becomes as outrageous as the acts you protest. Is PETA as outraged over rappers referring to women as b' and h's? Is PETA outraged over the fact that there's a young man in Douglasville, GA in jail for having consentual sex with a classmate? He was 17 and she was 15 at the time. He is now 20. Of I forgot you guys ONLY obssess over animals because you're spineless in the presence human needs.

Posted by: FireSummer07 | July 26, 2007 07:30 PM

I cannot even explain how i feel about Peta, you discuss me. How about standing up for the homeless and molested children.

Posted by: Hope Clark | July 26, 2007 07:37 PM

Free Michael Vick, They where his dog and as such should be allowed to do whatever he wants with them I just hope next time he takes it to mexico so he can have the RIGHTS to use his animals as he sees fit, try going to a HOG-DOG rodeo that is some family fun

Posted by: Ben Smith | July 26, 2007 09:24 PM

Haha i love PETA, they are the most hypothetical people. I love how PETA is crucifying Vick without any proof, common seriously innocent until proven guilty? As far as I'm concerned PETA can hold as many protests as they want but Vick isnt guilty until he is proven.

Posted by: Dev | July 26, 2007 09:26 PM

They are just Dog's. stop trying to ruin a MAN's(human being!)Life beacause of "alleagations". In all fairness you PETA people are making yourselve's look really pathetic in the eye of the public, Because of your constant annoying push for something that normal everyday people care absolutly nothing about!. Sure, pickit outside of atlanta falcons ground, but when you go the extra mile and bring it to nike and homes of NFL commisioners. Thats absolutly crazy. Get Jobs and raise your family and be happy, STOP! waisting everyone's time. Thank you........... oh yeah, you're all nothing but extremists, that cant handle your own lives so you make fake ones up and actually beleive that you are doing anything to save the animals...... and whoever is reading this won't post it because they are to scared to hear the real feedback. NOBODY CARES EXCEPT YOU PEOPLE

Posted by: james | July 26, 2007 09:33 PM

Peta, go to hell, your spokespeople have no idea whats going on. They crucify Vick as though hes a harden criminal, get your facts straight. And please for the sake of yourselves, realize what country you live in and that in the US you are innociant until proven guilty. All Peta wants is publicity, and they jump at any chance to go on tv. Go to hell peta for crucifing a human over unproven dog fighting alligations, you should be embarrassed.

Posted by: PETASUCKS | July 26, 2007 09:33 PM

For me personally all this uproar about dogfighting is bogus. Animals are hunted and killed by humans and it is perfectly legal. A horse is whipped during a race to make it go faster and it is legal. Two dogs that chose to do so fight each other and it is not legal. We as society have become a bunch of hipocrites. . You watch sportscenter and you can see the jockeys whipping the horse. In some places you can look in the paper and see a picture of a person holding a deer head up like a trophy, a deer that they just shot and killed. How can people honestly protest one thing then say that the others are ok. How can we watch boxing,wrestling,football,UFC, and other sports where people get injured, and even killed and say that it's ok. Why, because the people participating were willing. Truth is that the majority of these dogs are also willing. The fact is that it is highly unlikely that a pitbull will become agressive toward a person. Other animals maybe, but a person rarely. I think there should be guidelines, but illegal I don't. You can not call that illegal or wrong and then watch boxing, or horse racing, or any violent sport. People need to mind their business when things don't concern them. I do not personally dog fight, my stomach can't handle it, but I refuse to judge somebody who does, because the fact is I am a boxing fan, I do like the UFC and horse racing, and I do hunt. In closing either outlaw everything or else shut up about it.

Posted by: BO | July 26, 2007 09:56 PM

Where was PETA with their signs and protests when a house in Va beach was found do have dead cat carcasses and 200 flies in it????

Posted by: Keith | July 26, 2007 10:04 PM

You guys are gay u no vick aint guilty u are jus trying to get us back from that O.j Simpson case and Kobe bryant. yall are not a bunch of animal lovers either i bet all of yall eat meat like its free out this mug. respond if want to:Xavier342@msn.com

Posted by: Jack | July 26, 2007 10:49 PM

The Vick dog fighting case may be the major impetus to expose this horrible so-called sport that has run virtually unchecked in many inner cities for years. It is
up to PETA to keep this issue
in the media night and day until Vick's trial. As a teacher in an inner city high school for several years, I know that the animal
control agencies are underfunded and understaffed and the cruelty and neglect to animals is appalling. As the US has absorbed so many more immigrants from third world countries, our standards in the area of animal control has greatly
deteriorated.

Posted by: Mary jWard | July 26, 2007 11:24 PM

FOX news reported the other day that Nike and Dick's Sporting Goods has pulled EVERYTHING off their shelves that has any relationship to Vick. Yesssssssssss!!!!!

Posted by: Ariel | July 27, 2007 12:02 AM

I want to say kudos to PETA for going above and beyond for defaming a MAN's name for the love of animals. But wait where was PETA when a pit bull attacked an 85 year old woman and drugged her thru her kitchen? Oh well I am sure the old women did something to those dogs to make them do it. Anyway PETA has done a wonderful job of creating a modern day lynching just like they used to back in the good old days. Caring more about an animal’s life than a humans life. Again kudos to PETA. PETA you are certainly getting a lot of attention off of this MIKE VICK saga...even politician are jumping on the bandwagon. Gosh tho sometimes I wish politician cared more about issue such as health care, salary increases to educators and over populated prisons. Oh well I am so glad so much attention is being given to VICK and the allegations brought against him. Without this story we would have never cared so much about dog fighting. GEE I am glad that America has finally seen what is more important in this country. By the way I wonder if the troops who are putting their life at risk for us know that we care so much about MIKE VICK and dog fighting. I am sure we are making them proud.

Posted by: Vick Fan | July 27, 2007 12:07 AM

Enough! You have judged Mike in the worse way possible. He without sin, cast the first stone.

Where were the FEDS when black men were put in rings to fight until death for the whites man's entertainment.

Better yet, where were the human rights advocate protesters after Katrina?

Who was convicted in the media than???

It's funny the value you put on the life of a dog at the price of a black man.

And they say, the world has changed. Ha,Ha,Ha!!!!

Posted by: monique | July 27, 2007 12:08 AM

Innocent until proven guilty!! You people have convicted Micheal Vick before he has been proven guilty! You can sit there and say what's right and what's wrong but you cannot deny that amimals have been bred for competition and food, for years. And will continue to be bred for competition, and food for years.
I realize this comment will not be posted and I accept that. I only hope that someone is reading this thinking "how stupid is this guy" just like I do when I see you holding up your stupid signs.
I ask anyone of you PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) advocates to argue with me, because whether you believe it or not there is always two sides to every story.

Posted by: greg | July 27, 2007 01:23 AM

haha fuck you guys
haha

Posted by: Mike Vick 07 | July 27, 2007 01:24 AM

I am so grateful that so many people are outraged by this. Although this has been happening for many years and so many things have tried to be done about it, it's in the public eye now. People see that this really happens and hopefully something will finally be done. I still have no idea why he can't just plead guilty. He does realize the evidence against him is rather stacked up, right? I wish I could be on the jury when he go to trial.

Posted by: Wendy | July 27, 2007 07:58 AM

Due Process!!! Let's not have another Duke Lacrosse situation. Public opinion is valuable, but we cannot allow it to overshadow our rights as Americans. Activism is also a right, but we must be responsible activist. The players of the Duke Lacrosse team were "rapists" to many, but with the process that they were entitled cleared of the accusations. Kobe Bryant was also accused of rape and found not guilty. Let's for once be respectful of our judicial system, mean it when we say "innocent until proven guilty," allow this man his rights, and continue to rally around an awesome cause and mission and not the guilt of Vick, before he's found guilty!

Posted by: Jennifer | July 27, 2007 09:42 AM

It's pretty funny that all of you anti-PETA folks are complaining that PETA is just doing this to get attention - well, the fact that you are responding here in droves shows that they certainly are getting A LOT of attention. Ha ha!

Once again, PETA is an animal rights organization - of course they are going to focus on animal issues. Just like Mothers Against Drunk Driving would not be campaigning about the environment.

No one here is saying that the Iraq situation is not important. If that's what is important to you, then go find an organization that is working on that issue, and leave the animal lovers alone (you cannot say that you are an animal lover if you have no compassion for what these pit bulls were subjected to).

Posted by: Michele | July 27, 2007 09:46 AM

I am very, very pleased to see people here who disagree with PETA. I am a certified vet nurse and for the most part I support their efforts.

But the greatest leaders in history were known to surround themselves with people who disagreed with them.

So to all of you dissenters I say, keep visiting here and keep the conversation going. Since the current topic is asking why PETA helps animals instead of people, I have a question for the dissenters.

Since I am a scientific field, I like to deal with factual information. So I would like to hear the logical reason WHY you think a human's life is more precious than an animal's life.

I'm not being a wiseguy. I really want to know.

Posted by: Maya | July 27, 2007 10:46 AM

wow this comment board is flooded with anti-PETA hahaha how does that make you feel PETArds? Yall should be arrested for slander...throwin someone under the bus that you dont even know or know anything about except for how fast he can run and how well he can throw a football. Get F*cked

Posted by: Big Herm | July 27, 2007 11:04 AM

I love how all of those protestors in the picture are wearing leather lofers. Hypocrits. Its just goes to show that you PETARDS are just looking for something to complain about because you guys have no human friends. Losers!!!!!!

Posted by: Jeffro | July 27, 2007 11:10 AM

You people are stupid. Pitbulls were bred for fighting. You attack anybody who gives you publicity. If you want animal rights, come to Ga. and ban hunting. Its a sport just like dogfighting. Dont wear leather and dont eat meat. I think you all are full of it. I wish I was the target of your hatred, I would tell you a thing or two. Animals are animals. Save the troops, oust Bush, and lock Chenney/Libby away for life. Then save our crippled education system. Give the elderly back Social Security. Stop Wal-Mart from monopolizing the retail industry and fine corporations for hiring illegal immagrants. Once that's done maybe we can comeback to dogfighting but not a second before.

Posted by: Mindfull Mac | July 27, 2007 11:12 AM

Dear God, what don't the animal haters get about this? DOGFIGHTING IS ILLEGAL!!! That means that you're not allowed to do it!!! And if we as a society can't stamp out practices like dogfighting, how are we supposed to deal with the war?!?!? Everything damn thing in this world is connected to everything else! Every word you say, move you make, action you take directly affects the world around you, no matter what your personal opinion may be! If you don't want people doing their job and going after dogfighters, then I guess you don't care if they go after people that would rob you, rape you, set your house on fire and kill you because that person has the right to do so out of personal beliefs?

Posted by: Brianna Fritchey | July 27, 2007 11:15 AM

I'm very surprised at the amount of anger expressed toward PETA and its supporters on this site. Why waste your time on this site and comment on its contents if you are not an animal rights advocate? The attention that Vick has garnered in the media has nothing to do with his ethnicity and everything to do with his abuse of animals. The fact that he is a high profile athlete only magnifies the attention he would otherwise receive in these circumstances. The animals Vick has raised and trained to fight do not, contrary to what many of you have argued, fight of their own free will. Vick has made that choice for them and destroyed any chance these animals have for a caring, enjoyable life. If you're so disgusted with PETA for choosing to promote a cause other than human rights, perhaps you ought to take a stance in that area rather than critise those who don't. PETA has made the choice to speak for those who can not speak for themselves. Instead of labelling PETA hypocrites and deriding their cause, try showing some respect for those who actually have the courage to publicly stand up for something they believe in. Should human rights be something you feel strongly about, put your voice to better use and support your cause.

Posted by: petra | July 27, 2007 11:16 AM

Peta you suck! You guys just see a black man. No! A professional athlete on television, and all you want is to be seen on television your selves. Go after some of these whites that be on t.v. holding shot guns, and killing deer, bears, monkeys. You can't do that huh! Why because there your grandparents, kids,cousins, and YOU YOURSELVES. I personally don't agree with dog fighting I think that it is cruel, but I am not going to accuse someone on something before I personally don't know the full truth. That is what you have done, and it is not right.

Posted by: BlkandDeep | July 27, 2007 11:42 AM

Gotta love how none of the "anti-PETA" people can't spell lol
Thanks PETA for all your hard work and giving a voice to the victims who can't speak for themselves.
If one more person pulls the "innocent until proven guilty line" I am going to scream- watch the news people and get the facts, pull your heads out of your asses and show some compassion for other living beings.
PETA- keep up the great work!

Posted by: LynneyLin | July 27, 2007 12:00 PM

To all the Michael Vick fans that are having so much fun and folly posting irrational, angry, ill-informed comments on this thread: a common complaint from you is that PETA should focus on the war or child abuse etc, etc. Please be aware that anyone who contributes to help a worthy cause is doing it because it's a cause that is near and dear to their heart - personally. There ARE already plenty of groups against the war, to help fight cancer, and to help child abuse. PETA helps animals, and if you have a problem with that, then THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, NOT PETA's. You also have to inform yourselves a little better. Michael Vick has an 18 PAGE INDICTMENT against him. Did it just pop out of the sky? Yes, of course, innocent people always have 18 pages worth of incriminating evidence against them, so yes, I guess he is innocent.... (NOT!). And to bring the "race card" in on this is not even worth commenting on. Please, it's just insulting. If that's all you can come up with as an excuse or defense then that's just sad. By the way, exactly what kind of monsters are you? If it's ok in your book to go in the backyard and fight/hang a dog....then i must ask this - do you file your children's teeth to razor points? beat them to make them mean and fight, and then hang them from a noose when they don't comply? Given the posts from some of you, I wouldn't doubt it. For the love of God, wake up.

Posted by: Laurie | July 27, 2007 12:46 PM

i think i catched the right moment here to step in! is this halloween or the national day of illiterates?! i never saw so many dumbasses gathered together in one place on one day! i think it's the 12th time i repeat it on the blogs:

to all the illiterate vick fanatic fuckers nationwide: this is an animalrightspage and hence is not dealing with

1. kobe bryant's women
2. soldiers in iraq
3. charles manson
4. rodney king
5. race issues
6. president bush

and all the other bullshit which you voluntarily and unvoluntarily heavy guys are presenting since i observe this shameful case. fuck off this website you animal haters and bite the dust!

Posted by: silent tongue | July 27, 2007 12:48 PM

Hey,

I'm from Europe so I could fall into the category of 'the rest of the world' as it is stated in the post #2.

Being neither PETA's member (actually this is the first time I visit this web-site, thanks to my roomate, he's a vegetarian and all that stuff), nor so much animal lover, I none the less want to let you know my opinion that the dog-fighting issue can't be the criteria to judge whether you're fools or not, but if you're humane nation.

Taking this opportunity to post here till its end, I would also love to tell you that we think you are fools, when you can't show Iraq on the map. :) And when you use the leadership of your country to create hostility in the world.

Stop killing people. And then, as an option, use your leadership to spread the ideology of humaneness all over the planet, regardless to humans or animals. Because if you look through the dictionary for the word "humane", you won't be able to find any specific species, which this world could be applied to. And may be someday, when we start respecting life in any of its form, we will treat life of human being better too.

Cheers,
don't hate me,
I've got a number of friends from US, :)
just wanted to make you know my opinion.

Posted by: European guy | July 27, 2007 12:50 PM

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, YOU FUCKING HIPOCRITS!!!

Posted by: Shawn | July 27, 2007 12:54 PM

Concerning the scum on this blog: it would be a sad thing for America if her destiny would depend on these illiterate beasts here - good night America!!!!! A toast to your animal abusers!

Posted by: Candy | July 27, 2007 01:02 PM

to whoever the retard is who said "thats what they are bred for" - maybe thats how they started, but that does not mean that is the way that it should be! pits are fun, smart, full of personality, all around wonderful dogs. When they go bad its usually because of neglect, abuse, or irresponsibility. I have 2 "PIT BULLS", and neither one of them would ever hurt a fly, in fact one of them saved a 2 year old little girl from another breed of dog that was about to attack her, so no, they are not bred for fighting you fool.

Posted by: shawn | July 27, 2007 01:19 PM

Brianna, If your so concerned about the law and what is illegal then you would be concerned that he hasnt even been found guilty of anything. You are contradicting yourself.

Posted by: Jeffro | July 27, 2007 01:23 PM

what is wrong with u people ok he made a honest mistake if he was involved this man has a family and kids to take care of what is up with u all i see u in front of kfc protesting put your concerns to homeless, the sick,aids,cancer, all u worry about is animals vick has a lot of charities that help actual people who are in need look at the problems u caused them and now people may not support the funding or need for those organizations vick is apart of because of you how do u all feel what about the at risk kids he helps or the golf tournament he holds to raise money for va tech

Posted by: kris williams | July 27, 2007 01:26 PM

Silent tongue.... Who are you calling illiterate. You cant even spell. I beleive that the word "caught" should replace the word "catched" as that isnt even a word. So go back to school and teach yourself some grammar before you make a fool of yourself on this blog again

Posted by: Jeffro | July 27, 2007 01:27 PM

All you vick fans - go out and do something good for humanity instead of reproaching Peta her help for the animals! Instead of blaming an animal rights organization there are many possibilities for to help people; for example you could give some money for a lonely mother instead of buying alcohol and cigarettes and so on or carry some heavy things for old people in the super market! use your super-brains!

Posted by: Franz Fankhauser | July 27, 2007 01:27 PM

Of course, innocent until proven guilty. But what about free speech? This is PETA's site and they can say whatever they damn well choose, AND they're gracious enough to extend that right to all their spelling-challenged detractors posting here.

Do you really think the feds would bother indicting anyone without a lot of substantiating evidence? He'll get his day in court. Vick's apparently coming up before a very hard-nosed, but impartial judge.

This just in from Fox Sports:

"The feds announced that they will be filing a superceding indictment in August. Since there was only one count in the original indictment, I would expect that there will be multiple counts added that could elaborate on the dogfighting and gambling aspects of the crime and, to make matters worse, there could be racketeering charges filed against Vick based on the gambling aspects of dogfighting.

The maximum sentence for racketeering is 20 years in prison, although if convicted it's unlikely Vick would serve anywhere near that amount."

Posted by: Mike | July 27, 2007 01:27 PM

to james: one day if you or your child are buried alive it shall also be just dogs for to dig you out - remember my words!

Posted by: little big woman | July 27, 2007 01:31 PM

The people who are posting the anti-Peta stuff here are not only dog fighters (and others forms of animal abusers) but also the DOG BREEDERS

Your local AKC breeders, puppy millers etc have lobbied long and hard for the dog fighters "rights" to operate unlicensed, uninspected, no limits to numbers of dogs, letting them chain dogs 24/7, etc etc

The dog breeder lobby is the one who fights the legislation, and they use (primarily Rpublican) legislators to do their bidding

After all, even non-fighting dog breeders are making LOTS of tax free, hidden income.

They don't want any new laws or regulations that might expose their OWN illegal businesses!

The dog fighters actually quote and congratulate their "friends" in the AKC that lobby for their interests.

Expose the entire dog breeding industry for what it is!

Posted by: kelly | July 27, 2007 01:31 PM

And the dog fighters and other pet profiteers will ALWAYS try to detract attention away from the dog fighting issue by claiming that people should pay more attention to "wars" or "children" or whatever.

This is a well-used diversionary tactic, and you can see them here.

They are FURIOUS that their activities have been exposed!

Posted by: kelly | July 27, 2007 01:34 PM

Maya, In my opinion I think in most areas of life a human is more valuable than an animal in terms of being able to express thoughts through communication. Animals think too. There is no doubt. Though animals never invented anything and if animals and humans were equal in all views of life we would still be wearing loin cloths and running around the jungle barefoot. In terms of animals. They are important becuase they helped humans thrive by being vital sources of food and protein. Without that humans probably would have wasted away hundreds if not thousands of years ago. If you say they could have eaten vegetables to survive its a possibiltiy. But my guess is they knew what vegetables to eat by watching animals eat them. Thats my opinion

Posted by: Jeffro | July 27, 2007 01:37 PM

to all the dog despising people here:

who is guiding the blind: just dogs!

who is searching buried people after the earthquake: just dogs!

who is garding the house when you are out:
just dogs!

who is a friend to an old lonely person:
just a dog - not you, you miserable scarecrows - it's better you hide your face behind a mask because you are the shame of your nation!

Posted by: windwalker | July 27, 2007 01:38 PM

Kudos to Rebock!Just announced, Rebock has discontinued sales of Vick Jersys. The evidence is in, the people have spoken, and he's GUILTY,GUILTY,GUILTY.

Posted by: nan mcclain | July 27, 2007 01:42 PM

to whoever the retard is who said "thats what they are bred for" - maybe thats how they started, but that does not mean that is the way that it should be! pits are fun, smart, full of personality, all around wonderful dogs. When they go bad its usually because of neglect, abuse, or irresponsibility. I have 2 "PIT BULLS", and neither one of them would ever hurt a fly, in fact one of them saved a 2 year old little girl from another breed of dog that was about to attack her, so no, they are not bred for fighting you fool.

Posted by: shawn | July 27, 2007 01:49 PM

Wow, Mike Vick's fans are doing a great job on this site of showing us what kind of people are into dogfighting - stupid, ignorant, illiterate fools that should all be round up and put in a pit to fight til the death - that would certainly entertain me! And it would rid the world of some of the stupidity that makes this kind of crap popular in the first place. I hope the court makes an example of this sadistic maniac.

Posted by: LAUREN | July 27, 2007 01:50 PM

PETA will lose this battle just like they lose almost everything else, a bunch of goof balls with nothing better to do. Direct some of this energy to the human killings in Africa if u really want to help the world. Until then be quiet. I do not evenlike Vick but I already bought his jersey, just to piss u people off.

Posted by: John | July 27, 2007 02:03 PM

Have you stupid peopole heard of "innocent until proven guilty" I guess not, Peta protestors need to get a life and stop trying intentionally ruin somebody esle life, VICK will have his day in court and until then BACK OFF, you people have rally done a job here, judging this man and assuming he is guilty, WHERE THE HELL IS PETA AT WHEN A CHILD IS KILLED BY PIT BULLS, THOSE DOGS ARE DANGEROUS AND IT IS IN THEIR NATURE TO FIGHT SO GET OVER IT!

I hope and pray that VICK can get through this and have all you idiots somewhere looking stupid ... FOOLS

Posted by: Monica | July 27, 2007 02:05 PM

Interesting...

It appears that those posters who think that our domesticated animals are just fun toys for so-called human beings to torture and kill for "sport"...

Are not quite able to spell. Imagine that -they appear IGNORANT.

Posted by: Rick | July 27, 2007 02:08 PM

Don't ya just love how the idiots who support animal abuse on this site can barely spell or write a halfway decent grammatically correct sentence?

For all of you morons who say it's "his business", dogfighting is a F-E-L-O-N-Y in this country. Got it?

It's been proven time and again that people who hurt animals also hurt people.

I hope they lock Vick and his familiars up for a long, long time.

Posted by: Chris | July 27, 2007 02:10 PM

If this is Vick's fight then why are you dumbasses at the Falcons training??
This shit has nothing to do with his team. If he's guilty then he will be punished. if he's not then all you fucks will be wrong.

Posted by: josh | July 27, 2007 02:11 PM

jeffro: i'm glad to read an acceptable post from your side to maya: just let me ad the following thought: it was the animal kingdom who inspired mankind for all it's inventions: the eagle's eye for the telescope; the spider's net; the birds wings; horsepower and so on - pls consider this also - so one inspires the other and man and animal should help each other! ok?

Posted by: rat king | July 27, 2007 02:20 PM

jeffro:
my tongue is not english and the word 'caught' is ok - 'caught in the act' capisc?

Posted by: silent tongue | July 27, 2007 02:25 PM

V=VICIOUS
I=INHUMAN
C=CRUEL
K=KILLER
YSE, that is michael vick the thug u anti peta fan trying to defend here.
i wish him rot in hell.

Posted by: ann | July 27, 2007 02:27 PM

Good points, Kelly. The degree of hostility from the PETA-bashing extremists here seems like a concerted and contrived effort.

And for those people complaining about these Vick blogs and protests possibly influencing Vick's verdict (they won't), what, pray tell, have you done about getting a newspaper publication ban enacted?

And to the people who think they are clever and original:

People Eating Tasty Animals is old, old, old! Try to be a bit more creative.

And, if you end your post with, "And know I'm going to grill me a big juicy steak...mmm", then it's obvious that all those years of sniffing glue have taken their toll.

In case people arrived at this site by mistake, PETA is an animal rights organization. They were not established to cure every ill in the world. Would one complain to the cancer society that they are not doing enough about Parkinson's? Instead of whining about PETA, get off your ass and go and support the causes that mean something to you.

Posted by: Mike | July 27, 2007 02:27 PM

I believe Mike Vick but i dont support dog fighting. Think about it most people liked him before they found out about the rumors and now because of a rumor you all hate him do you 100% KNOW he was doing the dog fighting ? He wasnt living there he may not have known... I think you need to know 100% before you start hating him.

Posted by: HANNAH | July 27, 2007 02:28 PM

After reading most of the comments, it is very evident that most of the people supporting Vick are illiterate. However, being uneducated is no excuse for being inhumane. I would bet it is the environment they grew up in with no compassion for anything but themselves.

Posted by: joanne jelson | July 27, 2007 02:30 PM

YES,
check his travel record, i bet he goes to arizona a lot.
that is why the authority there is invesgating him now.
i bet they can nail him TOO.
vick, here is the message to u: rot in hell.

Posted by: ann | July 27, 2007 02:31 PM

Hey FireSummer07, obviously you don't know what site your on. It's PETA- bitch! If we gave a FUCK about rapper's and rapist's then wouldn't you would be on another site trying to prevent it? And I'm not trying to make any grammatical errors seeing how many ANTI-PETA and Mike Vick fans are out there making mistakes on their comments. Geez, no wonder you guys are for him, you didn't go to school, you were too busy watching a dog-fight. He did the crime, now he must *gasp* pay the crime.

Posted by: Rumer | July 27, 2007 02:32 PM

YES,
check his travel record, i bet he goes to arizona alot.
that is why the authority there is invesgating him now.
i bet they can nail him TOO.
vick, here is the message to u: rot in hell.

Posted by: ann | July 27, 2007 02:32 PM

You people make me very sad. It's not about the man. It's not about his color. It's about the brutalized animals.
Brutalized means being abused until the animals were driven insane & attack everything in sight.
Brutalized means being shoved into a ring & having to fight to the death with another animal.
Brutalized means being beaten, starved, electrocuted, strangled, & mutilated for the sake of gambling.
This man has been placed at the scene. He is someone who is in the eye of America. He is a spokesperson & a role model for children. Of course he is going to be attacked. Someone who is supposedly so involved with society is always crucified first. That's how it goes.
As an animal rights activist, I don't care about who he is, what he does, or what color he is. What I care about is that he was involved in illegal dog fighting in some way, shape, or form & I do not want someone who is involved with those activities being placed in the limelight.
If you haven't noticed, athletes & famous people are allowed to get away with many things that we normal people would be rotting in jail for.
It needs to stop.

Posted by: Elizabeth | July 27, 2007 02:35 PM

i love peta,
animal have no voice, it is organizations like "peta" and the "humane society" which step in to help them.
the argument here is not because vick the thug is black, the arguement here is his cruelty to helpless animal.
wake up, u vick suporter.

Posted by: ann | July 27, 2007 02:37 PM

Jeffro, eloquently statetd. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

In my opinion, each "animal" has its own particular niche in nature. For example, sharks can't do math, so we say that sharks aren't as "intelligent" as us. But there is no need for sharks to do math. There is no practical adaptation for them to do so.

Sharks and all other wild animals balance the ecosystem on Earth. Sharks compared to humans have a brain in which the cerebrum and cerebellum are more proportionally equal. That's because of the dimensions of their living space, i.e. the ocean. So each of us has a brain adapted to the environment in which we live. Each of us has our place.

Why humans evolved to indeed invent things and have intellect is a still unknown to me. We don't serve nature very well, so as far as I'm concerned it's a mystery.

DID YOU SEE HOW EASY THAT WAS EVERYONE? Jerrfo and I disagreed but still were able to respect each other. As far as I'm concerned non-PETA people are very welcome here. I'll respect you if you respect me.

Posted by: Maya | July 27, 2007 02:43 PM

Hopefully this comment won't be censored, but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? PETA is passing judgment against Vick without knowing the facts. Now I don't know if he's guilty or innocent, but I'm not going to judge him upfront. Yes, the case is revealing a horrifying sport, but personal attacks before knowing the facts is not cool. If Vick is found innocent, I hope PETA is prepared to apologize. If guilty, well, you counted the chicks before they hatched, but good for you and getting the awareness of the major issue out there. PETA should not slander Vick and his sponsors, and reserve judgment until the facts are known and the case closed.

Posted by: Annonymous | July 27, 2007 02:48 PM

And may I please comment on the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing?

I agree that PETA is convicting this guy unfairly. But let's be honest here. The dogfighting and other illegal activities were going on AT HIS HOUSE. That has been proven. Even if he did not participate in the dogfighting, he has an obligation under the law to not allow illegal activity to go on at his property.

And as far as the racial thing goes, let me say this: the Duke Lacrosse kids were punks. Yes, they were innocent of the rape charges. But they hired a stripper. They got stinking drunk. They had frat parties.

Sometimes, kids, when you hang out with the wrong people and do drugs and booze, bad things happen. I don't care if you're white or black. It's what you DO that gets you places in life.

Vick chose to hang out with gamblers, drug dealers, and criminals. They are his freinds and family. He let them use his house. He admitted to that. That will get you in trouble with the law every time. You don't even have to participate in the criminal activity.

Like I said, the Duke Lacrosse team did the wrong thing and got burned. Welcome to the real world, kids.

As I said before, I agree that PETA went overboard. And I feel sorry for Vick because it sounds like he had done lots for charity. But if you hang with criminals, you look like a criminal. Sorry.

Posted by: Maya | July 27, 2007 02:51 PM

I find it ignorant to state that the people of Peta don't care about human beings in war or other world disasters. This organization was created for animal rights and it is doing its job. Just because it is arguing for justice for animals doesn't mean it doesn't care about anything else.

That's like saying Cancer organizations don't care about AIDS or organizations dedicated to homelessness don't care about global warming.

PLUS: For all those people getting mad about Peta spending time protesting dog fighting and not focusing on wars and genocide: WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THOSE ISSUES? WHY ARE YOU ON THE PETA SIGHT INSTEAD OF PROTESTING AGAINST OTHER THINGS YOU SEE AS MORE IMPORTANT.

I think it's vital to support all causes, just because you believe in animal rights doesn't mean you don't support human rights or needs.

Posted by: Poodle | July 27, 2007 02:52 PM

Dear PETA,

Michael Vick is innocent.
Dogfighting = Great Sport.
Animals = NO RIGHTS!!!!!
Zoos = Animal Rehabilitation
Hunting & Fishing = COOL!! :)
KFC = Finger Lickin' Good!!!
Meat = Yummy!!!!
Fur & Leather = Comfy to Wear
Wool = Sheep Barber Cuts

And Lastly:

PETA = FUCKING IDIOTS, HIPPIES, & SHITHEADS

(although women PETA do look hot naked) = SLUTS

YOU SUCK,
John P. McKenna

Posted by: John McKenna | July 27, 2007 02:55 PM

jeffro: i really don't know where you see leather lofers; you would really do better in washing the shit out of your eyes and quitting this page! farewell!

Posted by: randy dawson | July 27, 2007 02:55 PM

Vick case aside,
....Its amazing people find this form of violence as entertainment!Some of society has become so immune to pain,torture and cruel non feeling behavior it doesn't even effect them anymore.
What a coward's sport..,yeah-COWARD'S.
I am a loyal NFL fan,there are many many great NFL players that do so much for others and communities.
IF,Vick comes out of this guilty then he should be punished as the law allows!
Thanks PETA and those out there that keep sticking up for our animals!
Now I will go hug my rescued Pitt~

Posted by: Ice Maiden | July 27, 2007 03:03 PM

I don't think people on here understand the pro-Vick people's perspective. Many of us non-PETA folks are animal friendly. Our issue is that you are slandering Vick before he has been tried by a jury of peers. Keep promoting your cause, but don't attack the person until found guilty. Otherwise you're violating his rights as an American. Remember that slander and defamation is also illegal.

Posted by: John | July 27, 2007 03:13 PM

“Is PETA outraged over the fact that there's a young man in Douglasville, GA in jail for having consentual sex with a classmate?”

Even if I knew what “consentual” sex was, what does that have to do with Michael Vick?

“I cannot even explain how i feel about Peta, you discuss me.”

No, Goober, nobody was “discussing” you. We were discussing Michael Vick.

“They where his dog and as such should be allowed to do whatever he wants with them I just hope next time he takes it to mexico”

They…were, perhaps? Or, did you mean “where his dog was”…or went or….SHEESH! What the heck are you trying to say?Even the illegal immigrants speak better English than you! At least they know to “capitolize” Mexico.

“i love PETA, they are the most hypothetical people.”

Oh, now…come on. PETA are hypothetical? I thought PETA were real!! You mean it’s all in my head?

” They are just Dog's.” Um…they are dog’s? They are the dog’s WHAT?

“stop trying to ruin a MAN's(human being!)Life”

Yes, indeed. Let’s all bop some women on the head with clubs and drag them back to our caves. Then we can gather around and maybe discover fire.

“Two dogs that chose to do so fight each other and it is not legal.”

First of all, Sparky, dogs do not choose to fight. They fight for survival or because they are trained to fight. Dogs do not make choices. Unless, of course, you count peeing on the rug a choice.

“You guys are gay u no vick aint guilty u are jus trying to get us back from that O.j Simpson case and Kobe bryant.”

Now, being gay, on the other hand, IS a choice. Right?

“I wonder if the troops who are putting their life at risk for us know that we care so much about MIKE VICK and dog fighting.”

First, if MIKE VICK cares so much, why is he not over there, as well? Second, I wonder how many of the troops putting their lives at risk care about the dogs being tortured, electrocuted, shot, etc. etc. etc. I’ll bet quite a few of them agree with PETA.

” Where were the FEDS when black men were put in rings to fight until death for the whites man's entertainment. “

You mean like Mike Tyson? Who do think has been fighting white supremacist groups for the last 60 or 70 years? Andy and Barney?

“Due Process!!! Let's not have another Duke Lacrosse situation.”

What in the world does rape have to do with animal cruelty???

“If you want animal rights, come to Ga. and ban hunting. Its a sport just like dogfighting.”

Yeah! We like to use urine or corn as bait, and then shoot those dangerous deer with big MAN TYPE guns! After all, takes a REAL MAN to kill an animal that doesn’t even know he’s there. That must be why God made rifle scopes.

I am very proud of all of you for standing up against PETA. And it's nice to see that the education system in Georgia has improved.

Posted by: Bob | July 27, 2007 03:16 PM

Lauren, these are NOT Mike Vick fans

They are dog fighters and breeders (as well as the usual illiterate hunters who are pissed that Peta got media attention)

The dog fighters and breeders may state here that they support Mike Vick, but among EACH OTHER they are absolutely FURIOUS at him for allowing some light to fall on their very secret and very lucrative dog fighting/breeding businesses!

These people are all around us, and many of them have legislators and local yokel law enforcement in their pockets

(and the "show dog breeders" are terrified that their lucrative, underground businesses also are getting questioned as they lobby to protect dog fighters)

WE NEED TO GET STRONGER LAWS PASSED! and that's what they are afraid of

Posted by: kelly | July 27, 2007 03:16 PM

Jeffro, when Maya asked for a "logical reason WHY you think a human's life is more precious than an animal's life", I think she also wanted factual information.

Just because you think something is true does not make it factual Jeffro.

Here are FACTUAL responses to your nonsense:

"being able to express thoughts through communication" - what do you think animals are doing when they are barking, chirping, screeching, etc? And don't say it's because they can't speak, since babies and some people with certain disabilities also cannot speak and that doesn't mean they are "less valuable" than other people.

"animals never invented anything" - well, again here is your ignorance showing through loud and clear. Just because they don't build machines in factories does not mean they never "invented" anything. Did someone show birds how to build a nest? Did someone show monkeys how to get ants out of an ant hill by putting a twig down the hole and then eating the ants that stick to the twig? Of course not - it's because these non-humans also have brains and know how to use their brains as needed for their own species.

"if animals and humans were equal in all views of life we would still be wearing loin cloths and running around the jungle barefoot" - what the hell you are talking about? This does not even make any sense! Just because humans came up with something DIFFERENT does not demonstrate superiority. In fact, it is humans who are destroying the earth with polluting factories and man-made chemicals. Gee, that's pretty smart!

"They are important becuase they helped humans thrive by being vital sources of food and protein. Without that humans probably would have wasted away hundreds if not thousands of years ago" - well, this is just too complex to explain in a blog posting. Your best bet is to do some actual research on this one. Humans survived just fine on plant-based diets before anyone came up with the "brilliant" idea of eating animals. And if you did some nutrition research, you would know that animal protein is actually very detrimental to humans (even assuming there are no anti-biotics and growth hormones, since those substances obviously did not exist millions of years ago).

"my guess is they knew what vegetables to eat by watching animals eat them" - now how can you even begin to assume this? There is really no way of knowing, but they most certainly could have learned by trying things themselves, and by never eating things again if something sickened or killed somebody.

So Jeffro, time to hit the books! Since you have the right to freedom of speech, you can certainly say whatever you want here about so-called human superiority, but you will just keep looking like an idiot if you do.

Posted by: Michele | July 27, 2007 03:23 PM

This is really a sad day in America. You have PETA who is anti Mike Vick. You have Vick supporters who are anti PETA. Each side finding its own degree of justice. Some points valid from both sides. I am not an animal lover has to the extent of PETA but I also no of Due Process and that a man black or white is not guilty until proven in a court of law by his peers. The personal attacks at ones intelligence, love for animals or be it the fact that allegations of dog fighting has the same undertones of racial bias. Lets stick to the facts at hand.
1. Mike Vick is the owner of the property where dog fights were taking place.

2. PETA is an organization that fights for the rights of animals.

3. Vick has been indicted on charges of illegal dog fighting.

4. Constitutionally, he is innocent until proven guilty.

PETA supporters lets be fair, lay off of asking for a mans livlihood be taken away until when and if he is convicted.

Vick supporters, quit trying to make this into a racial issue.

I am a african-american male and I do not see this as racially biased or motivated, if you look at what PETA is doing, they are using one such instance that is nationally known and exploiting the situation for their cause. Now convicting a man without giving him the chance to prove his innocence is wrong, but hell, these are the same people who believe we should all get along and actually still thinks mayburry is the type of life all americans should live.

If you really want to support Vick, lobby the legal system to stop these protest and unsolicited acts of ruining Mike Vicks career.

Posted by: JOHN R | July 27, 2007 03:25 PM

The media is not even touching the real story of dog fighting, the total preperation, How the courage of the dogs are built up. The effects of loss even if the dog does not die. This guy Vic is only one of thousands, And there are many dollars passing hands on the lives of these dogs, They do not even cover the rolling, the test dogs that have no chance with a pit bull. The media is makeing a joke of this business, or sport what ever you wish to call it.

Posted by: E Mumford | July 27, 2007 03:29 PM

Are PETA members organizing outside of the wine bar Vick owns in Atlanta? I would think that most people would be embarassed to go there is they assocaited it with him. And to all the PETA haters, I agree, instead of bitching about us on OUR website, about how we aren't helping Iraq and cancer victims, go to a website for the causes you want to defend and support and do something constructive. This is ridiculous. Or better yet, learn to spell and compose sentences. If you hate dogs sooo much, start your own "I hate dogs" web page. Maybe, you can meet with like-minded idiots. This isn't "Innocent until proven guilty" or a black/white thing. Its a human being thing. We are stewards for the Earth. God is pissed right now because you are abusing His creation. The Devil is smiling, you haters are letting him win!!!

Posted by: KG | July 27, 2007 03:40 PM

This is a monumental event for the animals!! With any social change, you will have the losers who cannot see the big picture. It is amazing how stupid animal haters are. You can tell by their writings. They bring in ridiculous concepts like OJ and the other losers. It requires advanced minds to understand the wonderful work PETA has done here.

Great job, PETA. The whole world has more respect for us now. I will continue to support your cause.

Posted by: Carol Hedin | July 27, 2007 03:43 PM

I sure hope all you peta hipacrites. Are vegeterians, let alone deer hunters or quail hunters. I am not a vegeterian, but i'm not about to act childish by convicting a man who has not even went to trial. what makes a dog more special than any other animal getting eaten by us humans every day. that's cruelty to animals, when we stick our faces in them. Haven't you guys already gotten him suspended from training camp for nothing, for being accused of something in "America." Roger Goodell calls himself a commissioner, he suspends this man just because a certain group of people doesn't like him. Come on peta wise up, if u dont like the man fine, but trying to ruin his reputation if he has not been stated guilty by the jury that's immature. It sickens me as an American, falcons fan, but i am more of a die-hard mike vick fan, that "americans" are suppose to be the civilizes one,that peta is goin in front of court houses and the falcons training camp facility to put up a anti-vick protest and this was just a court arrainment. I stand on that behave and say i am ashamed to be an america following peta childish behavior. If he pleas guilty then maybe i'll understand if you guys go on with this barbaric behaivior. Come on America lets act like Americans. Vick you are love by everyone in my hometown, we love you, stay strong don't let anyone bring you down God bless. Stay Stronggg

Posted by: Anonymous | July 27, 2007 03:43 PM

I'm you people are fighting as hard for protecting children's, immigration rights and the state of our country.. I love animals I have 4 dogs myself.. And have been a fan of PETA but you have really crossed the line with your Micheal Vick grand standing.. This has nothing to do with Micheal Vick or the charges but everything to do with PETA making a statement for themselves. You people are picketing and protesting harder because he's a black NFL player than those 300 animals I saw the Miami SPCA rescue from a farm in Miami.. Because it wouldn't get you the exposure of a case like this one.. And you wonder why the state of our youth is in such bad shape! Why our teachers are under payed! Why we have poor healh care! I can go on and on! I'm really disappointed in PETA as an organization and will do everything I can to back Micheal Vick and make sure people know what PETA is really about..

Posted by: Darel | July 27, 2007 03:55 PM

Irrespective of side issues thst either PETA people or others are talking about, dog fighting laws in the USA are a good thing because they reduce illegal gambling and dogm fighting usually if not always consists of abuse, violence, and death of animals, and numbs people in general to violence against other humans.
The fact that Vick had his licenses puled, was arraingned, and may get more charges indicates there is much evidence of illegal activity on hs part. Of course Vick is the focal point because he is the celebrity, which drives many issues in this country. Nad his track record for bad conduct has already been established.

Posted by: Ken | July 27, 2007 03:57 PM

Shut the hell up peta why the fuck don't you shut the hell up and be pissed of about a real proeblem . Get a fuckin life . This is america , so you're innocent until proven guilty . So shut the fuck up and do something usefull .

P.s. GET FUCKED

Posted by: randum | July 27, 2007 03:58 PM

Shut the fuck up peta do something useful . Eat meat and get some balls u Pussys .

Posted by: randum | July 27, 2007 04:00 PM

i tell you what, unless you have the finacial support to get a pit-bull train. this dog is goin to be a vicous animal. Lookin on the t.v. I saw the peta people holding the cuttest most harmless dogs in the universe. In which a normal pit-bull (normal meaning not being trained to fight are to be vicious) would devour any of those dogs if just so happen the two dogs were strolling on the side-walk. Thats why you have never seen a teenage to a grown pit-bull strolling around in the park playing frisbe, cause the owners know if they are not trained very carefully. they are just as dangerous as wild hogs to anyone other than the owner. Trust me i have seen pits all my life not trained to dog-fight, attack the owners family members. Not given the excuse to dog-fight but just given you the taste of pit-bulls are really like if the owner does not have the money to get a trainer. come on they get there names from taming bulls

Posted by: don | July 27, 2007 04:03 PM

To John - so what are you waiting for - make your luggage and go to help the people in Africa - instead of critizising an animal rights organization!!!!

Posted by: Dick the Whale | July 27, 2007 04:07 PM

P-Pussys
E-Enormous Faugs
T-Turtle screwers
A-Assholes allways looking for something to bitch about .

Posted by: randum | July 27, 2007 04:07 PM

When Federal prosecutors proceed with an indictment they already have very strong evidence.

Vick's lame excuse that he didn't know what was happening on his own property is so laughable as to defy description.

I've heard that in prison there is nevertheless a code even among inmates. They generally don't like folks who abuse animals or children.

Vicks and his cohorts may get a real education.

Posted by: Chris | July 27, 2007 04:16 PM

John R how did it feel having Mike Vick's hands in your pockets? Or spitting in your face and disrepecting you?

Mike Vick was running an illegal dog fighting and breeding business, making millions and not reporting a penny or paying a penny in TAXES

You know, taxes. The things that pay for your community services, your kids' school, your fire department, etc.

Maybe if you expended an ounce of energy to end these these activities, your communities would benefit?

But I guess it is easier to be duped by a con artist.

Posted by: kelly | July 27, 2007 04:19 PM

listen im a avid football fan..an i do understand these allegations are very serious..but you as in everybody associated with peta cant be serious. you have to understand in due process..the things that you are doing is sick..im not taking up for vick but comeone. what will happend if he is found innocent. you wont appologize, youll make a conspiracy theory. you all are simply sick.. and making this turn in to a race issue, which it is..i say stop while you alread have public opinion on your side... but i find this modern day crucifixion fucking sick.

Posted by: Jarell Wall | July 27, 2007 04:20 PM

John R, interesting comments. Although I never watched the show I know the term "Mayberry" and I'm all for an idyllic way of life.

One thing people are missing here is that PETA targets many many people instantly when it comes to defending animals. They sort of act before they think sometimes.

Unfortunately their downfall is that they refuse to condemn the ALF and others who commit arson and assault, and some believe that PETA workers do this themselves. It's a terrible shame in light of the animal rights people being the most kind and gentle folk around.

PETA sees animal abuse and they instantly latch on mercilessly like no other beast on the planet. They will not back off, and they do not think racially or any other way. They only see animals suffering and they go bananas.

I'm not defending that. Heck, I wish they would knock it off. But they are the only group on Earth who rightfully questions the assumption that hermit crabs, lobsters, chinchillas and other animals have no conscious life whatsoever.

PETA will seek understanding of every animal out there and that's why they are so important. If it weren't for PETA lobsters and crayfish and voles etc would be indiscriminantly abused with no thought at all. Thank goodness someone looks out for them.

But don't wait for a verdict. PETA does not wait for anything. They are all kindhearted people but very misguided sometimes.

On a side note, I do wish PETA would get off the Vick subject a bit. I'm seeing a lot of animal abuse near where I live and we sure could use some help.

Posted by: Maya | July 27, 2007 04:20 PM

The fact of the matter is that breeding, raising and killing animals all in the name of sport is cruel, inhumane and wrong. The reason why PETA is publicly protesting this particular case is certainly because it is a high profile case. However, it is an opportune time to expose the truth about such practices to much of the public who turn a blind eye when it comes to animal rights. Vick should be spending his tens of millions of dollars on more noble causes. In the end, justice will prevail. Maybe Vick will be reincarnated as a pit-bull and forced to fight.

Posted by: Angela | July 27, 2007 04:21 PM

it sad to see people like ann that use the excuse that vick is suppose to be a role model what about. leaving comments that he should rot in hell. peta are the biggest hipocrites in the world. get a life all of you are just desperate housewive with fat husbands. taht are willing spport anything his goldigging wife want to do

Posted by: vickispetascapegoat | July 27, 2007 04:32 PM

Wow...I am just appalled. I think I've lost all hope in humanity. The fact that people are okay with the forced fighting, and execution of animals by hanging, drowning, electrocution and body slamming is beyond me. I don't care what your philosophies are about are animals equal to humans, or whatever; this is sick and it needs to stop. Please stop defending this sick behavior. It is not acceptable on any level. Even hunters don't torture their prey. I remember reading a study that most serial killers start out by torturing animals; then they move up to humans. But I guess that's acceptable when you don't value life anyway.

Posted by: M. B. | July 27, 2007 04:37 PM

Hey kids, I just want to remind you that this is an animal rights blog. That means we focus on animal rights...not human rights. When we want to fight for those, we go to those sorts of websites. And just because we believe so strongly in justice for the victims of animal abuse, doesn't mean we don't like people....we just don't like assholes. That is why we aren't discussing the war or anything related to that. The funny thing is, no one on here personally knows the people writing, therefore you cannot classify us all as something except that we truly care for animals. Why are you so worried about what's happening on this blog? In your own words, aren't there more important things? Go fight your fight, and we will fight ours. =]

Posted by: Wendy | July 27, 2007 04:38 PM

Where do you guys get off calling him inhumane, yet you have a video called "pit bull kills Michael Vick" at the top of this page??? You all keep talking about worrying about the homeless, and abused children and such, like someone commented above, vick has a family, and he also support many of the charities that you talk about, quit contradicting yourselves

Posted by: shawn | July 27, 2007 04:43 PM

Once again the man is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY no matter how long the indictment is against him. Who is PETA to determine his guilt? If he's found guilty PETA will get everything they want. His career will be ruined and he will lose all of his endorsements. Why do they have to fight for those things to happen NOW. How do you think Vick will feel if his innocence is proven but he has lost everything???? Probably the same way as someone who has spent 15 years of their life in prison for a crime they didn't commit. When mistakes are made you can NEVER give a person back what they have lost as a result of that mistake. It's fine for PETA to boycott Vick if they want but it isn't right for them to force the companies that endorse him to let him go. PETA is not the judge and jury. These companies that are giving in to these PETA hypocrites are SPINELESS. PETA didn't influence their decisions to sign him so why should PETA influence their decision to drop him. So what if you lose some pro-animal hypocrites as customers, I'm sure the majority of your customers could care less. Fight back and don't let PETA run your businesses.

Posted by: chenille | July 27, 2007 04:44 PM

John McKenna = GONE +

Posted by: THE UNDERTAKER | July 27, 2007 05:06 PM

Michael Vick is disgusting and should be thrown in jail. Having gotten that out of the way: PETA taking action against somebody for killing dogs? Perhaps if he had euthanized them and then dumped them into a garbage can behind a Piggly Wiggly, like PETA does, then it wouldn't be so bad, right? You are all a bunch of hypocrites, every single one of you. This whole country makes me physically ill.

P.S. Do not put those who fight dogs illegally and those who BREED dogs for purpose and functionality in the same group. You are all a bunch of ignorant idiots if you ask me, whether you support Vick or PETA and I hope you all (including the dog-fighting piece of crap himself) get eaten by a group of angry, ravenous dogs. Now THAT would be justice.

Posted by: umakemesik | July 27, 2007 05:33 PM

PUCK FETA!! PUCK FETA!!...

Posted by: MVP | July 27, 2007 05:49 PM

OMFG, these dogs are WILLING participants?! These were loving, non-threatening animals that are TRAINED by lowlife scum to be savage killers! The young punks killing each other in the ghettos of every major city WERE NOT born killers! It was destructive influences like gangsta rap! The same for these dogs that are used in fighting!

Posted by: andre | July 27, 2007 05:55 PM

monica - get your facts straight. It is NOT in Pit Bulls' nature to fight or be dangerous. Its the people who neglect, or fail to take responsibility for their pets. They may have originated to be fighting dogs, but they are very loving and loyal dogs when trained and loved. So quit being one of those fools who here the word pit bull and cringe, its probably people like you's fault why there are so many neglected and homeless pitts, because they have a bad reputation. I am an animal lover but i think peta is ridiculous. Michael Vick is also my favorite player in the NFL, AND REMEMBER, WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND HERE YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY! So until he is convicted (if he does)and the truth comes out, QUIT TRYING TO RUIN THE LIFE OF AN INNOCENT MAN, (who also contributes to many of the issues that alot of you are whining about)

Posted by: Shawn | July 27, 2007 06:00 PM

1.I am an animal advocate.

2. PETA is fighting against dog fighting (and other animal abuses).

3. Vick is just a drop in the bucket when it comes to dog fighting.

3. This is an animal rights blog.

4. I am vegan so I don't wear leather or fur or wool. The people protesting are not wearing any of these either. Pleather, yes, that's what you may be looking at. Plus this argument has developed cobwebs---give it up already.

5. Those of you so concerned with Iraq, rape,murder and all of the other horrors humans inflict on one another should be doing something about it instead of cursing, insulting and fabricating things against those who with great sincerity and love choose to help animals.

6. Loving animals is NOT SYNONYMOUS with hating humans.

7. PETA helps animals just as NOW fights for women's rights and the NAACP fights for the rights of blacks. Do you ask the NAACP what they are doing to help whites or Latinos?

8. Animals do communicate with each other (elephants, chimps,beavers etc.)

Thanks Maya for your previous kind words to me; I greatly appreciated them. Thank you Mike, Maya and others for your pertinent comments . The animals need advocates and I am glad to see that they have some very dedicated ones that also know grammar which is a plus.

Posted by: Ana | July 27, 2007 06:00 PM

Hey Michelle Why dont you go to the doctors and just become an animal. Then you can speak on behalf of them.. To me it sounds like you are defending animals over humans. If that is the case why dont you just go get an operation and become one. Yes she asked for an opinion. You expressed yours. I expressed mine. You are just pathetic enough to attack an opinion. Im sorry that you have no friends and no one likes you so you had to go and take up a relationship with your pet. Hope it works out for ya. Let me know when the wedding is. PETARD

Posted by: Jeffro | July 27, 2007 06:04 PM

While I do not agreed with dog fighting, I'm really appalled at this socirty for not letting justice take its course. We as Americans are always placing someone guilty before they every go to court. You as a society should know better. These are allegations and just that. Let the courts do there jobs, then go after the person if they are found guilty. Give that person their day in court and stop letting the public and all these other organizations commit a person before the court system. If you was charged with a crime, wouldn't you want your day in court? Also, I think this is all racial because if if was a white person, this would not have gotten the exposure that it is getting. GIVE THE MAN HIS DAY IN COURT AND QUIT PLACING JUDGEMENT BEFORE ITS TIME. Our LORD and Savior do not like when people are prejudging other people.

Posted by: W. Johnson | July 27, 2007 06:15 PM

WOW!!!I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A MAN GO TO JAIL FOR FIGHTING DOGS. NOW DO I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE LOVE THERE ANIMALS YES BUT, GIVE ME A BREAK...WE HAVE SOLDIERS GIVING THERE LIFE BUT NOT ONE OF YOU ANIMAL LOVERS ARE PROTESTING OUTSIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT? THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE THAN TRYING TO INFLUENCE OTHERS TO SEE YOUR VIEW WITHOUT DUEEEE PROCESSSSSS.WHERE WERE YOU WHEN PEOPLE NEEDED YOUR HELP IN LOUSIANA..THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT,,,AND HAVE THE NERVE TO POST THOSE OF US WHO DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW.....

Posted by: K WHITE | July 27, 2007 06:18 PM

Some of you Peta haters should first learn how to write properly! It's not about valuing the life of an animal more than human, but if you don't have compassion for animals you cannot expect the same for human life. If you want to be advocates for homeless do it yourself, volunteer, don't bash on an organization that is trying to do a good cause. Another thing, some of you haters are a bunch of stupid and ignorant people. And just remember, the same way you treat another being is the same way you are going to be treated in your judgment day. As for Vick, it is obvious what he did and the law should decide his punishment, but if he is convicted he will live the same way he treated those animals--that is he will live like a DOGGG! How? Incarcerated, and fucked in the ass, and used as bate for other inmates.

Posted by: lv | July 27, 2007 06:30 PM

I cannot believe how many comments I am reading that are pro-Vick! What's wrong with you people??? For the people who say we should be worried about the homeless and the molested and the war, there are organizations for those causes, go to their sites to do your ranting if that is your passion. Animals have souls and feelings but cannot voice their feelings. That is where those who care most come into play. You are just as guilty as the dogfighters for your negative support(notice I did not say Vick, until he is proven guilty). Wake up people, violence is violence and it is time for an end. Remember, it won't stop at just animals. Your mother, father, sibling, or significant other could be next....

Posted by: Stephanie | July 27, 2007 06:48 PM

All of you PETA haters, get a clue, PETA is an animal rights group, might I mention the ONLY well know group of it's kind,there are many other groups that support other crimes and abuse. funny how all of you ended up on their web site.
How can ANYONE compare dogfighting to boxing, football etc.. these people choose to go in the ring/feild, these animal have no choice or voice, does anyone realize these animals where starved, beaten & scared not to mention the 17 dead dogs buried onhis property, how can anyone think these crewl heartless acts to such a helpless animals is justified or exceptable, get a clue and a heart.
You do not have to be an animal rights activist to know this is wrong and ANYONE abusing animals should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, which in my opinion is not enough, I hope they make an example of Vick and he ends up without a job so he can sit in his house and think about what he has done to the animal who just wanted to please him.
Good work PETA, this cause would not be as noticed if it wasn't for you!!!

Posted by: Lisa H | July 27, 2007 07:03 PM

We should be boycotting Vick's restaurant and other business investments in and around Atlanta.

Posted by: KG | July 27, 2007 07:04 PM

To all supporters of animal rights,its about time the public sees what kind of monsters "humans" are!!! I have a pit bull that was left in the street with a knife stuck in her at 8 months old. It took her over a year not to fear "humans" the ones who had left her for dead.Lets keep PETA in Vick's face and lets make a difference in our insane country for these beatiful dogs.

Posted by: Michael P. Curley | July 27, 2007 07:14 PM

I'm so glad that we have such eloquent posters on this blog. I sure hope that these anti PETA people will consider stopping what they are doing to fight for Iraq and homeless people and cancer. I will continue to support animals, because they can't speak for themselves. I also support other causes like environmentalism, and stopping the genocide in Darfur. Are you idiots out doing the same, or do you just complain about those who are truly philanthropic. (For you dogfighting supporters, that big word means supporting worthy causes and charities). On a side note, I hope that the people down in Atlanta are also getting the word out in front of the wine bar that Vick owns. And any other business owned by this scum. The only way to help these people is tough love, hit them in the pocketbook. I'm sick to my stomach when I think of what creatures like Vick (human comes from humane afterall) are doing and getting away with. There is a HUGE difference between shooting a deer and eating it to feed you oor your family, and torturing a trusting, loving, creation of God's for your greed and insecurities with yourself. Technically, innocent until proven guilty, but this case is very open and shut. I hope they shut Vick away and I honestly pray that in the end he admits that he did it and that dogfighting is disgusting and pledges to never do it again.

Posted by: KG | July 27, 2007 07:21 PM

PETA, PETA, PETA....looks like you're in hot water..once again. Robert Blake and OJ both get away with killing the mothers of their childrem, but Vick hurts some dogs and you're playing the judge, jury and executioner!

Let me let you in on a little secret, dogs don't need man to fight. Dogs are animals, and thus think as such....you know, animalistic? Why does PETA think they can hold back the hand of God and stop animals from being the things that he obviously created them to be? He can't no more stop a tiger from attacking a child in India than he can stop two dogs from fighting if they want to. PETA wants to turn owning animals into some perverse(let's dress them up in clothes and raise them inside like children)anthropomorphistic way of life. We're sissifying our pets just like alot of folks have done with their children, where they are no more than spoilt, rotten brats who don't accept authority or get punished for their actions, which has led to discipline problems in both man and beast.

I groomed dogs for 8 years, and witnessed terrible neglect and abuse walking thru my doors. Nails growing into the dogs feet, mats so tight the had pulled the skin apart and were open oozing sores, collars grown into their necks, 100's possibly 1,000's of ticks and fleas, skin conditions, stinking ear infections,rotting teeth...and the list goes on, all the little dregs of society that were brought to us...by whom? Mainstream Americans...little, blue- haired old ladies who could be your grandma, rich soccer moms...all thinking they just had to have some long haired dog, but were too lazy to brush it out and take proper care of it. Would they have gone to jail and served time if I had reported them for animal abuse? I doubt it....

Abuse is abuse...just like dead is dead. The numbers are staggering how many animals are destroyed each year in shelters, etc. compared to the numbers destroyed by people that choose to cull their own animals.

Cruelty in death shouldn't even be an issue, because every aspect of death is cruel, no matter how it's done or how you slice it. Dying is just part of life. You die, you rot...and you decay, same end result, who cares how you get there..it's part of the unpleasantness of death.

While PETA hold signs saying save the victims, do they know that dogfighting is the ONLY crime in this country whereby the VICTIMS ARE EXECUTED instead of the perpetrators? What hypocrites you are....

Posted by: wickedgames | July 27, 2007 07:32 PM

This is not a racial issue, this is a humane issue, and dog fighting is cruel, torture, and abuse of living creatures. Wake up and smell the coffee people. If you want humanity to be more humane to children, and underprivleged people you must become more humane to all living creatures. Michale Vick will get a trial, but he will never suffer the pain and torture that he inflicted on those animals. That is the only injustice, he should feel what he has done to those animals from the other end. Dogs don't choose to fight, they are forced to fight, and are starved, tortured, and prodded to do so. Quit trying to justify the abuse, acknowledge the abuse, and stand up for those who can't speak for themselves.

Posted by: Liane | July 27, 2007 07:41 PM

PETA,
Stop trying to ride the coat tail of M.Vicks fame, you're like the driest biscuit trying to sop up any attention that leaks from all of this nonsense about some dumb dogs. And by the way , I own a Chi and I love her dearly but that's not the point. She's still a bitch. I have an idea. Go to the home of "mr. Broke and Faceless" whom had two dogs tied (as law requires) in his backyard minding their own business and a little down syndrone girl wondered off from about a few doors down and her body was found in the pen with this mans dogs. They are going to put those dogs down because somehow they got the notion that human life is more important than a dumb ass dog that ate an innocent child. Go peta!!!!!! Go tell them how they by no means should ever consider hurting an animal!!!!! Animals are people too, right???? So get on your stupid job and argue that and leave Mike Vick the heck alone.

Posted by: NMBR1Falconsfan | July 27, 2007 07:43 PM

I'm affaid of the message we are sending. I am an avocate of animal abuse, but no one has been convicted yet,and we are crucifing this man. What about due process? If it turns out the man is guilty I'll march with you but this type of passion without subtance is ignorant, and I can't support it. Please lets allow the court to do its job.

Posted by: Chris H | July 27, 2007 07:55 PM

THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO TOOK ACTION! THANKS SO MUCH TO THOSE DEMONSTRATORS!

Justice for all dogfighting victims!

Let's work so that the penalties for this crime increase!!

We have won and we will continue to win!

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Posted by: Gabriella | July 27, 2007 08:04 PM

Fuck all of you PETA bitches you should leave michael vick alone and worry about other shit like global warming or horse racers putting there horses to sleep beacuse they can't perfrom
you white red neck crackers

Posted by: howard | July 27, 2007 08:34 PM

yall are a bunch of redneck crackers who want to see a black popular man go down

Posted by: mitch | July 27, 2007 08:37 PM

Anyone else notice the HIGH RATE of illiteracy among those who are anti-PETA ??
Is there a correlation between loving animals and intelligence? Or is it just that their parole officers won't let them own spell check - ROFLMAO !!!

Posted by: Gabriella | July 27, 2007 08:58 PM

To some of the anti-peta comments: if you care so much about other issues - why bother going to the peta website and taking the time to post a comment? This organization is for people who care about animals. It's not about race or how celebrities are treated within our justice system. No one is claiming that Vick is guilty.
Check out the evidence found on his property. Regardless of the outcome of his trial, those animals were treated unfairly and there's no reason for it. It's unacceptable.

Posted by: boston | July 27, 2007 09:47 PM

It is clear to me by reading all these comments that it is the uneducated who cannot see that dogfighting is terribly wrong. When I read comments from those critiquing PETA, I was shocked at the many mis-spelled words and I won't even comment on the grammar. They should be embarrassed by the fact that they cannot even spell. It just goes to show how important education is; in every aspect of life. Let's continue to educate people and eventually, the intelligent will win and dogfighting will end.

Posted by: Lori | July 27, 2007 10:10 PM

Dog fighting is illegal. Michael Vick should receive fair trial in court facing the charges brought against him.

But ruining a man's life to push an issue, because he is famous, and we all would be kidding ourselves to say that PETA would jump on any regular man the same way, is wrong. And you should know it.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 28, 2007 02:52 AM

Thank you Peta for continuing to be a voice of reason and compassion. As an African who lived through a particularly brutal regime I should point out that apartheid was made possible because black people were literally thought of as animals - strong bodies bred for manual labour and servitude, believed not to feel pain the way white people did and they could live quite happily in squalor. They also fell under the leadership of white people who could do whatever they liked with them, as his or her conscience dictated. Genocide in Rwanda became reality because people were conditioned for some time preceding the actual killings to think of those different to themselves as animals. The same goes for the Holocaust, Bosnia, etc. What a wonderful world we would begin to create if we treated animals with compassion and dignity and the lives of all creatures (human and otherwise) as having real value and being entitled to compassion in all circumstances. There would be no racism, no wars or violence in any guise. Just as Mandela and many like him stood up in some of the darkest hours of African history to fight for relief and justice for those seen as nothing more than animals, thank you again Peta for leading a similar quest for creatures who have no rights and no voice. You are in fact one of the most noble aspects of American culture today. Strength to you for continuing the good fight.

Posted by: Tracy G (South Africa) | July 28, 2007 06:32 AM

What if after all this picketing and outrage he's acquitted? You guys are dopes. Now, if you'll excuse me, it's time for some steak and eggs.

Posted by: Rich | July 28, 2007 10:07 AM

I agree with all the comments on here that are staunchly expressed about pro-animal rights.
As I keep saying, the anti-animal activists cannot see the connection with the human/animal/environmental/societal relationship...so they have to spout out all kinds of uneducated,limited viewpoints in order to justify their so-called beliefs. And as they are really expressing their lack of knowledge about animal advocacy, they try to tell us what we should be doing and what we should not be doing that has no connection whatsoever within our realm. Meanwhile, NOT once have I ever read from any of them about their WORTHY contributions to society.
To me, their comments reflect NOT having the attributes and virtues that would allow for them to be worthy contributors to society. So in order to ease their uneducated and/or brutal consciences, they find it "comforting" to slam those of us who are educated about animal advocacy, as well as having compassion and empathy for ALL life.

Having said that, unless they want to become educated about animals' rights with its affect/effects upon society and the environment, then they have no purpose for commenting on here other than to slam with their useless comments and to prove their ignorance. Otherwise, they would be using their time to make worthy contributions to society.

Posted by: Ariel | July 28, 2007 10:10 AM

All the people posting here who are defending Vick probably all have the same mentality since they can't spell or write. Ignorance is bliss and don't be cruel to animals.

Posted by: Jack | July 28, 2007 12:54 PM

Hi Ana! You're more than welcome. And thank goodness for compassionate teachers.

I want to address people who object to PETA using Michael Vick as a "target". You have to understand that they use celebrities all the time to illustrate their point because it gets people's attention.

Look at the HUNDREDS of other animal-rights and environmental groups. Are they getting even half the attention or money that PETA gets? NO.

That's because our culture is addicted to juicy, backstabbing, negative celebrity storeis. Are you going to visit the Alley Cat Allies or SFSPCA or NRDC website? (YAWN!) No, because it doesn't have the racy material.

So in short, it's our fault. Shows like ET and reality shows are so popular because the media sees the public eating up negative campaigns and celebrity gossip.

If you don't like it, don't reward it.

Posted by: Maya | July 28, 2007 01:08 PM

Wow! Tracy G from South Africa, your words brought tears to my eyes. Beautifully said.

Biologist Dale Jamieson pointed out that if it weren't for women's rights and civil rights, the animal rights movement would not be possible. So we have our African-American friends to thank for having the bravery to stand up for those who are oppressed.

Thank you, Tracy.

Posted by: Maya | July 28, 2007 01:19 PM

I can't stand some of these people that say peta cares more about humans than animals. This is not the case here were talking about a person who abused his animals for his evil and sadistic purposes. How would you like it if you were treated like if you didn't matter? But then again people like that only care about themselves and don't take all of God's creatures into consideration. And people still wonder why the world is all messed up

Posted by: JESSENIA | July 28, 2007 01:49 PM

you peta people need lives. pit bulls fight. that's the way it is. dog fighting or not, they gonna fight.

but that isn't even the issue here. it's the fact that you crybabies are begging to uspend a guy that hasn't even been found guilty!!!

WHAT KIND OF INHUMANE SHIT IS THAT!!!

Posted by: jason | July 28, 2007 02:36 PM

PETA IS NOT THE LAW. You are placing your self above the law. There are more important issues at hand. This has went from a so called Dog attack Dog animal cruelty. To an PETA Attack Vick campaign (Human cruelty) You are trying to hang him out to dry for what. Trial has not convened you convicted the man already. Oh animals and white people have rights but Black people don't. There are others involved I have not heard their names at all. Oh they may be black they don't have Vick's Money or platform. A young Black Male with a little money in both pockets. I understand this is a fact you people hate especially whites. He with out sin cast the first stone. So what if they suspend Him from the NFL what have you accomplished. Dogs are still bleeding, barking and fighting. I think Peta is trying use Mike Vick and the NFL to push there agenda. Which is not so clear. It's as though this is the first dog fight in history. Dog fighting was not an issue until you saw it as an opportunity (your agenda). I am not saying this act is right. But dog fighting has been going on in both the white and black community for years and sometimes together underground or not. Its funny now all of a sudden it is wrong. What are you doing to help the dogs? Because when other animal events of cruelty takes place more serious ones you are no where to be seen. Oh I forgot you have an agenda to push. Do you actually care about the animals or are you Prejudice like the rest of the world.

Posted by: Big Daddy | July 28, 2007 03:12 PM

Do all you PETA-bashers out there think that this is the only discussion board on Vick? There are many other threads discussing Vick and proclaiming his guilt or innocence. PETA is breaking no law. As well as innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech (and the abuse thereof by some here) is a cornerstone right.

The Feds are now filing a superseding indictment, which could mean more charges against Vick. He will get his day in court, but the Feds don't indict someone on a whim. They wouldn't risk the time, money and embarrassment unless they had substantial evidence.

If PETA is wrong they'll have a very large egg on their face (and that's a risk they are willing to take), but if they are right, some priceless and desperately-needed light will have been shone on the slimy, criminal underworld of dogfighting.

Posted by: Mike | July 28, 2007 03:45 PM

Some of you people are unbelievable. You actually support Michael Vick's treatment of animals? You're insane. Yeah, dogs may not be people, but they are living creatures and should therefore be respected. Not to mention, if you don't want dogs or if you're going to treat them horribly, DON'T GET THEM! It's as simple as that. This guy is obviously guilty, he had a breeder's license and everything. What else would you need that for? I hope he rots in jail.

Posted by: Vicki Mata | July 28, 2007 03:49 PM

Wow, The war in Iraq, The homeless, the abuse of children, and the worst of all the race card! Like so many have said this is a animal rights thread, it has nothing to do with all the other issues that are being discussed. So for the Vick fans go elsewhere and spew your non-sense to people who care. I for one, value my Pit bulls life far more than Micheal Vick's life! Why you may ask? my pit bull would never hurt anyone or anything. Micheal Vick on the other hand gets his rocks of by watching animals fight thats disgusting. Last time I checked the Feds do not spend the time to create a 18page indictment if there is no proof. Vick should be put in a pen with all the dogs he fought and let them tear his black ass apart, limb to limb baby! and if he does not win, well then he should be electrocuted, hung, body slammed, drowned or killed by some other horrible means! so how do all you Vick fans like that for a race card.

Posted by: Jason | July 28, 2007 03:51 PM

Tracy G, I am truly grateful for your comment. I am so glad that you can see the connection between the humans that do these things. What would the world be like if certain humans didn't think they were "above" so many others? It'd be fantastic.

And Ana, you made such great points. I just wish the "haters" would listen to them and learn from them.

And for the last time, this isn't about race you idiots, it's about justice.

Posted by: Wendy | July 28, 2007 03:53 PM

Hmmmm, a lot of you anti-PETA people keep throwing out insults, like "childish" and "hypocrites" (that's the word that you mean when you have actually written "hippocrits"). It's actually quite amusing to see their immature and incoherent responses to some very concise, rational statements by the various pro-animal people on this site. The anti-PETA (and likely anti-animal) people here have resorted to name-calling and "I know you are but what am I" kinds of responses. Who are the childish ones here???? I especially loved Jeffro's response to one of my earlier posts (I am assuming it is me when he says "Michelle", as there are no others with a similar name on this particular thread). I should surgically alter myself to become an animal just because I love animals and take the time to speak up for them? Okay, so following that fascinating logic, I should also turn myself into a (vegan) chocolate bar, because I REALLY love chocolate!

Anyway, back to the point of this thread. Animal abuse is horrific, whether it has been committed by a celebrity or a little old blue-haired lady. Everyone should be "punished" for such behaviours, however the consequence has to fit with the "crime". So if someone causes severe neglect because of laziness, they should never be allowed to own an animal again. If an animal is not properly cared for because its owner just does not understand the level of care needed for a pet, then perhaps they simply need educating. If a pet owner has not taken the time to have its pet's nails trimmed, this is not a good thing, however it is not the same as someone who has deliberately obtained a breeding license, who has started a company called "Bad Newz Kennels", who owns a property where dogs are trained to fight to the death, and who has already engaged in criminal activity in the past.

If you do not like what the animal supporters have to say, then why do you spend so much time on a website for people who are either already involved in animal rights in some way or who are interested in learning more?

If you are as convinced of Vick's innocence as the pro-animal people here are of his guilt, then you certainly have the right to protest in favour of Vick. PETA did not "force" anybody to do anything, they just opened people's eyes to the cruelty to which these animals have been subjected.

Posted by: Michele | July 28, 2007 04:53 PM

dear mr.vickspetascapegoat,
plese spend some time to read and understand my post (s).
i hv never said ur buddy, or may be ur bro michael vick is supposed to be role model.
personally, i never expect a ball player can be or should be someone's role model.
but i do expect every human being rich or poor,and that includs ball players obey the law.
what the cruel acts they did to the dogs they bought, breed, and stolen, made them not qualify to be called " human" anymore.
yes, i am a housewife, so what?does it mean i am dumber than u are?lol
thank u for ur attention.
ann

Posted by: ann | July 28, 2007 05:48 PM

to those of u who think dog fighting has been around for so long, it is just a fact of life, U R WRONG.
if we can get rid of slavery, we can get rid of dog fighting.

Posted by: ann | July 28, 2007 05:55 PM

MIKE VICK IS GUILTY...
HIS HOUSE
DEAD DOGS
THE HOUSE WAS SET UP FOR DOG FIGHTING.FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STILL BELIEVE THIS MAN IS NOT GUILTY THINK AGAIN.
AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE YOU TOO CAN LET THE FACTS SINK IN.....

Posted by: erica | July 28, 2007 07:34 PM

WAY TO GO PETA!! KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING!

Posted by: John | July 28, 2007 09:36 PM

for all you idiots saying shit like "they're just dogs" or "worry about something else like the war" you have no place in telling us what do to, so fuck you. and you make think they're "just dogs", but I highly doubt you would like to be shot, hung, drown, electricuted or body slammed to your death. its AGAINST THE FUCKING LAW and that son of a bitch will rot in prison, as well as lose his job

Posted by: emma | July 28, 2007 10:07 PM

Just wanted to let Peta know what a great job they are doing to help animals. It takes a lot of effort and work to organize all the protests,flyers, emails, etc..
You guys are doing a great job!

And to all the people that posted comments against Peta and criticized them for not taking stand on other issues, lets realize that everyone has their own different passions and this website/organization is to help end animal cruelty. If you feel so passionate about ending the war or other issues and you really want to make change, then perhaps you may want to consider finding organizations that focus on those issuses and help make the change you want to see actually happen.

Posted by: nle | July 28, 2007 10:11 PM

people say we are defending this behavior, everytime i see a dog fight my close, but it is completly wrong to stand in front of this innoncent man job and demand that he is supsended. The only thing they have against vick is four witnesses and everyone in virginia that have the ears near the street tryin to get the truth instead accusing, say that all of these witnesses are dog-fighters and
drug-dealers lookin for a
way out of jail time. You guys have one reason to be mad at vick this was his house, and neighbours say they haven't seen vick since the house was purchase, but they have seen tony taylor, and the others that lived in the house.

Posted by: don | July 28, 2007 10:18 PM

i beg of peta to pleaseee hold there judgement and be mature. why is the founder of peta letting his followers destroy this man rep and his way of life without goning to a single minute in a trial. please stop this maddness. if he is guilty pleasee jump on him all u want.

Posted by: don | July 28, 2007 10:30 PM

To: Posted by: Rich | July 28, 2007 10:07 AM
Ha, ha, ha -- "Rich"! You are SO Original!!!! You really "got" us w/your post -- you are a genius!!! I am in AWE of you ... NOT. Now get back to work, KFC needs you to go clean the toilets. Bye-bye you LOSER! Oh, and, so sorry, sour grapes about Vick being dropped by Nike, Reebok and everybody else. It's so incredibly unjust, isn't it? Just kiddin! I haven't stopped smiling since the announcement of him being dropped by Nike et al. And now one of his cohorts has flipped on him...FANTASTIC! Yes, Rich, enjoy your life as another uneducated, servile pleb ... you are clearly of Vick's ilk. Again, stick to your day-job -- I just don't see a Pulitzer in your future! Ah-ha-ha-ha!!!! (oh, sorry, you probably don't even know what that means...). All the best and you can kiss my sweet pitbull's *&^!, xoxox VestaGirl

Posted by: VestaGirl | July 29, 2007 01:34 AM

peta is doing a great job by going after vick i dont agree with them on politics but i do on animal abuse and vick would not stop with dog fighting it would only escalate he didnt do it for money he enjoyed the kill and it wouldnt stop with dogs get the picture he reminds me of the emperor in gladiator

Posted by: melanie | July 29, 2007 03:44 AM

You are just mad because he's black and has money. I am almost considered a carnivore.

Posted by: DAKID | July 29, 2007 04:50 AM

hi i live in france and i must say may be french people are right when they say that a lot of americans are stupid!! i can t believe what i m reading, because this asshole is a football player no matter with what he does?? he must go to hell!! of course there is war, poor people and everything... but i don't think that because there are so many horrible things thant mean that animal can be tortured , killed ... so that a stupid bastard can have fun... i support peta because i love animals and that doesn't mean that i don t love human. but ans animal can not defend himself... if you are concerned by human rights choose an association and leave this website. but don't disrespect people who cares about animal !!!

Posted by: mona | July 29, 2007 09:48 AM

I think it's disgusting that some of you choose to play the race card on this commentary. This is about cruelty and taking advantage of the helpless for sport and profit. It's just as bad as child porn. If anyone takes the time to read the 18 page indictment, one can clearly see that there is too much detail and too many withesses for those involved to be totally innocent. I don't care what color the dogs or people involoved are, it's just WRONG.

Posted by: valerie | July 29, 2007 11:08 AM

Michael Vick is GUILTY! One of the guys involved in this case has agreed to testify against Vick. What's that tell you? The coward is GUILTY! You can bet that Michael Vick's defense will be "Everybody is pick'n on me cuz I'm Black" I hope that he is sent to prison! You know that this coward will end up being someone's Bitch. And for all the PETA-HATERS out there- FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LONG LIVE PETA!!!
Tammye
Riverside, California

Posted by: tammye schillinger | July 29, 2007 02:32 PM

funny how all you people think someone died and made you judge, jury, and executioner. And I suppose you all know exactly what evidence the prosecution has also? My advice to you would be to shut the fuck up and keep your biased opinions to yourself until the real courts decide what happens. And if Michael Vick is proven innocent I think each and every one of you should be fed a heaping pile of shit straight from Micheal Vicks ass.

Posted by: sanch3z | July 29, 2007 02:48 PM

members of peta and all who care about the well being of animals and are against the torture of animals, do something now! infiltrate the super secret life of dog fighting. become a member , have them trust you, secretly video the fights, video faces get audio, get names. we can take down and get rid of this sick behavior

Posted by: jon bay | July 29, 2007 04:00 PM

i can't wait to see all the Vick supports get a big stiff wake slap in the face when vick goes away for dogfighting. this case will not only bring down vicky baby but watch as the steady flow of dogfighting thugs and punks come to light for all to see, mock and persecute.

Posted by: jon bay | July 29, 2007 04:25 PM

get a real job unless theres facts that prove something then quit trying to act like you know the real truth will come out at the trial and it wasnt peta that change nikes minds it was nike that did that so stop thinking you are so powerful

Posted by: mike | July 29, 2007 04:39 PM

I truly understand the PETA is an animal rights group. But how do you feel about those animals when they prey on innocent children? Your presence is all over but it is amazing that you are never seen educating those with these violent dogs. You are never seen offering sympathy to those families that have lost loved ones due to the viscious attacks by the same animals you are protecting. I reiterate, I understand this is an animal rights group and that is your main focus but I think people would remain on the topic if you operate on both sides of the spectrum. On one side you show up at all of the high profile events picketting and throwing shit on people to get your point across and on the other you are seen "no-where" when dogs are attacking, killing and mutalating humans especially children. I think this is why the support is not entirely in your favor. Now are far as Michael Vick is concerned.. I am a Falcon Supporting, Michael Vick loving, Black Woman and this is not about race for me. It is about what is right and wrong. If Michael Vick is guilty, do RIGHT and punish him. If Michael Vick is innocent, you (PETA) are WRONG in how you have presented your opinion...not facts to the public and in my opinion you have single handidly disallowed him a fair trail because of your premature actions. If he gets off due to his enability to receive a fair trial. It is your fault. If I was on the jury because of your actions, I would find it hard to convict him because I just don't believe he received the opportunity to due process. One last question. Why were you not protesting against Babino as well, he was accused of killing his girlfriends dog, but he was allowed to attend training camp unscathed. Oh, I get it...he is not the jet flying, limousine riding, bar buying, styling and profiling million dollar Mike Vick....hmmmmmm

Posted by: You Know Who It Is | July 29, 2007 04:45 PM

We all care ///if we are senitive human beings. Dogs being ripped apart by other dogs. I have four dogs that I love. They give me unconditional love. I not only fight for animal rights, but also battered women and molested children!! Why can't we do both?? I am PROUD to be on the side of PETA!!

Posted by: spirit wolf cub | July 29, 2007 05:56 PM

It is funny how people are saying oh why doesn't peta address human matters. Why do they just care about animals so much. Until those people themselves are out there putting forth effort for the human race I will not lift one finger to help. Stop complaining because your football team might lose without him. Just because dog fighting has been going on for years doesn't mean the cruelty has to continue.. we evolve and so should our ways. So get off peta's page and go support causes you feel worthy and then you can bitch.

Posted by: Suffokate. | July 29, 2007 07:25 PM

I think its sad that poeple that are fighting for animal right are being critisized for it. You think PETA is pethetic. I think all you football brainless men who think its okay to torture animals that cant defend them selfs is pethetic. Does it make you feel tough to to torture things that cant fight back. Get your priorities staight!!

Posted by: marla bevan | July 29, 2007 10:24 PM

Where's the compassion for those who can't defend themselves. What makes a**holes like Vick think they can get away with murder. Literally, that's what I would call it. He had a lot to do with those dogs dying, ON HIS PROPERTY, and those dogs that will now be euthanized because they can't be adopted out.
He's already been proven guilty but to what extent is what the judge is going to decide. It definitely makes me very happy that Nike has dropped his contract and I wish any other deals that he has will be dropped as well. I'm sure those that are on his side either have no pets or certainly treat their dogs, cats with ZERO respect.

To someone else that posted...IS the war over in Iraq really more important than what is going on over here? I'm obviously not a supporter of the war and those men, sad as it is, CHOSE to go to war. A lot of men are opting not to go back for a 4th or 5th time over there because of all the lies, etc. Animals have no voice. They cannot tell someone they do not want to fight.

Posted by: robyn | July 29, 2007 10:38 PM

It is apparent to me that the anti-PETA commenators have absolutely no respect for life what so ever. It's really sad. What horrible thing happened in your life to make you so devoid of emotions that seeing something die is the only thing that makes you feel alive? Proud? Does forcing/ seeing animals fight to the death give you some sort of control in your life? Are you so warped that this is the only way to get your "rocks off"? I wonder if human fighting to the death was legal, you would get pleasure from seeing a person die? Is death really that exciting?

I hope that if Vick is guilty justice will be passed down. If he is innocent I hope that he will take steps to prove that these actions are not a part of him. I encourage everyone to go to the thesmokinggun.com to read the inditement. Make your own decisions and pray for all the animals out there still used for sensless brutality.

PS-this is an animal rights group, any comments about they should focus on non-animal agendas are stupid and moronic. Anyone who tries to use that arguement against them are idiots. Obviously you know your stand is wrong when you have to deviate from the issue at hand to attempt to make a point. Your point has no base. Come up with some better arguements then maybe PETA will take you seriously.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 29, 2007 11:49 PM

Michael Vick fan, do all of humanity a great service, and do not reproduce while you inhabit Earth. You compared this to a modern day lynching? How worthless and idiotic a poor analogy that was. Only the lowest denominator of mankind can do perpetrate this kind of evil. That he is black and you wish to absolve him of his evilness because of slavery, is just absurd. Live in the present and get your head out of your errr, the sand.

Posted by: Craig | July 30, 2007 12:14 AM

This is in response to Debbie Mahoney's comment.

How would you feel if you were used as entertainment? Think about that, because I'm sure you haven't. Animals are just like our children. We make decisions for them, as they have not been given the brain capacity of humans. It is because humans are so damn smart that we cause destruction. Why should animals suffer for our foolishness?

I think you're the one who needs to wake up, idiot.

Posted by: Dog Fighting is WRONG | July 30, 2007 12:52 AM

Those of you who post against PETA need to stop attacking PETA for not responding to other world issues, because they are passionate for THIS particular issue.
You think its OKAY for dogs to be abused? How lame is that? Thats gross. There are so many horrible things in this world that HUMANS have created, and now innocent animals have to suffer because of it. Thats just wrong. For all of you who think that we are allowed to do what we want with our pets should think of this: Killers believe it is their RIGHT to kill, molesters believe its OKAY to sexually abuse children. How is your attitude towards animals any different, you inconsiderate fools? Just a bunch of hypocrites you are. No wonder this world is falling apart, its attitudes like that, which come from some very, very uneducated people.

Posted by: Dog Fighting is WRONG | July 30, 2007 12:58 AM

Ok I've been going from place to place reading these post and i have to say as far as intelligence goes anyone who can only critique someone else's post on grammar and spelling is lacking in something like who cares how it's spelled if it gets the point across. how many different ways can we say one simple word. fact going after someone who hasn't been convicted is just a witch hunt like back in Salem. i love animals more than people because they don't make excuses for what they do naturally everyday, from the cat that tortures the mouse to the hawk that skins the rabbit to the croc who would eat whatever came too close to it's feeding grounds human or otherwise even to the dog who bit me just because it perceived me to be a threat at only 7 years old trying to offer it food. but you would get together to make war against one man when any person with an ounce of respect to their claimed vocation would go after all parties. and only after the facts are clear and cut not implied and ensure that they all pay accordingly. for those that would crucify a quite possibly innocent man i ask this how would you enact your retribution on those who would do harm to your home and life how would you show them the error of their accusations when shown to the public. better yet how would an animal wounded and hunted react to you and yours. this i ask of all the protesters should he be ultimately found to have had no knowledge of what took place. that is still possible at this point, just as it's possible that he's truly guilty of the accusations. but why risk your credibility without having actual facts to go on. you stand to lose more than he could gain if he is exonerated.

Posted by: jesse robinson | July 30, 2007 01:04 AM

Should Vick be found guilty: PETA absolutely SHOULD "ride his coat tails" or "exploit his celebrity" or whatever other synonymous phrase anti-PETA people want to use ( and however they want to spell it, since spelling is, you know, something you do on a lark). I say this because Vick IS a drop in the dog-fighting bucket and his (alleged) actions should be used by PETA to bring this issue to the forefront of our minds. To accept this kind of brutality is to welcome other brutalities, violence begets violence and so on...we are all frogs in a pot of water, the heat is slowly being turned up. When are we going to realize we are BOILING?

If he is NOT guilty--PETA should suck it up and issue a formal apology---while STILL seizing an opportunity to raise awareness about and foster change concerning dog-fighting.

Thanks to everyone who posted SMART comments. Enlightenment is hard to come by.

Peace.

Posted by: justanotherrisingbubble | July 30, 2007 02:37 AM

on july 24 th 's news conference, the owner ,general menager and coach of atlanta falcon said " we didn't even know michael vick had dogs".
whoever has a "legit" dog kennel will keep it so quiet even with his co workers?
just think about it.

Posted by: ann | July 30, 2007 02:56 AM

hi, everyone,
where can i find the 18 page indictment?
thanks

Posted by: ann | July 30, 2007 03:03 AM

you guys are all idiots. animals were put here for our enjoyment...why do you think they taste so good? who gives a shit if he fights dogs...there his dogs...now i gotta go get ready for a deer hunt.

Posted by: john | July 30, 2007 03:53 AM

disgusting jerk go to jail forever dumb fuck i hope he dies

Posted by: virginia | July 30, 2007 03:57 AM

I respect PETA cause. But I do not respect the way PETA is going about thier cause. This is America a country of justice and rights. Mike Vick is only accused not convicted.Who is PETA to determine his guilt? If he is found guilty then take action. Don't rip apart his life, carreer and send a mother into tears over something that you can't determine is true yet. You don't have to like him or be a fan just respect his right to be INNOCENT until proven GUILTY no matter how long the indictment is against him. Put yourself in his shoes, you would want to be treated fairly so why shouldn't he be treated fairly. I understand that he is famous and the media is really buying into the hype and this could get PETA more in the public eye but its just not right. After this is all over I hope its someway Mike Vick can bring up a lawsuit against everyone who falsely accused him.

Posted by: Tavarus | July 30, 2007 04:02 AM

to TRACY G. (S.Africa), you are a very amazing, admirable person. With all the horrors that you lived through and know about, you could have easily become a bitter person, filled with resentment and hatred. But instead, your unrelenting compassionate heart became filled with empathy for ALL life. And because of your personal experiences, you can speak much better than a lot of us ever could about the need for justice and compassion for ALL life. Your tremendously insightful comments speak volumes about the need for human and animal dignity. And that is the foundation for animal advocacy of which you are so well aware.
I hope you continue to have more input, and thank you very much for sharing your VERY special heart with us.

I hope, too, that Peta pays tribute to your very valuable comments by having them continually acknowledged in what ever manner possible.

PETA, please don't Tracy's comments be forgotten. They are priceless.

Posted by: Ariel | July 30, 2007 06:50 AM

You are all pathetic losers.
Dogs arent people...
Your a bunch of naive idiots who need to get a life.
Animals are just that..animals.
Heres to hoping that someone runs over all of your pets.
cheers.

Posted by: Scott | July 30, 2007 09:29 AM

i dont understand why people are attacking each other here. whether your for either side it shows your ignorance to not see both sides of the story. people for vick are whining about other problems in the country-to those people- what are you doing to help with these problems that you are criticizing peta for ignoring. to peta vick hasn t been found guilty ---yet. so i can see people upset that their has to be a trial first . i think someone has to stand up for these animals with no voices. i think its important in the vick case because so many young americans look up to him-he s supposed to be a role model. all nfl players are and if you think differently than our country has really come to a sad point. when kids see him they want to be like him and that may include raising fighting pits. look at our country now-theres is many places in our country that do not allow pit bulls. these dog fighters are ruining the breed with inbreeding and raising ferocious dogs. our role models are supposed to remind us of this- not participate in it. people need to stop being so angry and irrational. i am an animal lover but i dont see how lashing out at everyone back and forth helps. i do feel vick deserves a fair trial but thats the key word- fair. people with moeny sometimes get out of certain situations and i think peta just wants to make sure the people see the results.

Posted by: nik | July 30, 2007 11:42 AM

Why is it that everyone who blasts PETA can't spell hypocrites or disgust or pathetic. Just because it's legal to whip a horse doesn't make it right, just like in some states it's illegal to get oral sex.. I bet you silly humans wouldn't be humping the leg of the law over that would you? And who the hell said "if the dogs wanna fight why stop them" are you really that absolutely ignorant? Michael Vick may be innocent until proven guilty, but the evidence is rather substantial, not to mention this morning one of his co-defendants pleaded guilty. So... I think it's a safe bet, the only thing that may save Vick is a really sneaky lawyer. God bless America... :(

The more I learn about humans, the more I admire my dog.

Posted by: John | July 30, 2007 11:47 AM

Very rarely do I agree with PETA on anything but this is one time when I support you 100%. This man should not be allowed to torture animals because he is a rich celebrity athlete, nor should he be allowed to slither his way out of trouble by playing the race card. Thank you PETA for going after this dog-abuser. Dogfighters are indeed the scum of the earth.

Posted by: Chris | July 30, 2007 02:54 PM

I must admit I do get a kick out of reading all these posts.
I do, however, have one question for all the African Americans that are defending Vick until due process , which , by the way, I agree with.
Did you feel the same way about the Duke lacrosse players when they were charged.
Oh, that's right , they got off because they were rich and white, right.
Not because that women lied and changed her story 7 times, and had 5 different men's semen in her, none being the defendants.
By the way, did Al and Jesse ever apologize for their marching?? Just checking.
By the way , for all concerned with fact, even if convicted you have already heard the Vicks supporters saying this, so I will say it for them- If convicted, its racially motivated and it was not a fair trial.

Posted by: Patick Kelly | July 30, 2007 02:56 PM

haters, haters....it is so sad to see that so many ignorant people live in this world. not sure why the pro dogfights and pro vicks are even on peta website, and don't care. Peta is doing a great job (and the only people doing any job at all obviously). Keep it up :) oh and we dont value dogs over a "man's" life, we value a dogs life over sick entertainment.

Posted by: Amanda | July 30, 2007 06:10 PM

The 18-page original indictment can be found at this link:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick1.html

Apparently though, there will be a superseding indictment in August, which could mean even more charges against Vick. Taylor is probably just plea-bargaining to save his behind at the expense of Vick's.

I know all you PETA-bashers seem to think PETA is omnipotent, but ONLY the court will rule on Vick's innocence or guilt.

Posted by: Mike | July 30, 2007 07:46 PM

In all honesty, thank you fellow PETA members for fighting the good fight. It makes me happy to see so many people caring about animals. We are speaking for those that cannot speak for themselves, and while reading this blog, it makes me proud to be in an organization that does just that. You people are amazing. Don't let anyone get you down. Vick will see justice, and I hope to see you all in VA on November 26th.

Posted by: Wendy | July 30, 2007 09:06 PM

Why do you people always attack popular people makes no sense. All you want is donations. And what is up with the vegitarian bullcrap. Animals are to eat. And pit bulls make horrible pets so i bet they would rather fight than be petted all the time. How do you know what animals want. GO VICK ALL THE WAY.(all though i do agree the people saying its a race thing are stupid)

Posted by: ILOVEMEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | July 30, 2007 09:37 PM

whats yall's problem, i understand what he did was wrong but you guys dont need to stand outside the courthouse. Cause nobody important there cares about your opinion espescially vick, that dude is a millionaire, even if that dude didnt play in the NFL again in his life he would still be filthy rich and he could probably pay bail and be out of prision and still have plenty of money left over and he will probabaly go out and do it again.So don't hang out at the courthouse cause you wont have any effect so stop trying! There are other things to worry about.Start worrying about humans considering you are one.

Posted by: Alex | July 31, 2007 04:25 AM

PETA is stupid and retarded all you guys do is try to make your self famous by trying to mess up other people's lives just because you love animals more than your own family one of my lifes goals is to go to a PETA meeting and wear a fur coat with leather shoes. yes people kill animals but animals also kill animals.and you guys don't get mad at them but i bet you be mad if a human killed a human!Then why arent you mad at animals at killing animals.But you know I actually don't think you would care if people killed people because you dont care about people. You just care about animals who probably think you're creepy and stupid to.PETA SUCKS

Posted by: Alex | July 31, 2007 04:39 AM

look the only reason im here on this stupid website is to tell PETA they are a bunch of retarded idiots im a Peta hater and proud of of it stop going into people's personal life. I also don't see how you can eat plants but not animals plants live and breathe too stupid artards i eat meat and plants and iI would kill an animal to survive if i needed to so stop being stupid retards!!!!

Posted by: Flomoremovieman | July 31, 2007 04:48 AM

When animals start caging, torturing, starving, shooting, stabbing, drowning, electrocuting, and wearing humans... then PETA may start sticking up for them. But when chickens are scientifically manipulated to produce tremendous amounts of eggs for you to sop up toast with, kept in a tiny cage it's whole sorry life and killed when it's totally exhausted, it's okay, because you're buying it. Not for anything, but humans are like a cancer for earth. All PETA is trying to do is give all species the same respect that humans try to give each other. And you're pissed about it, you stupid shit. Try compassion! Jesus taught it and I'm sure torturing animals and forcing them to maul each other to death for money and entertainment wasn't one of his hobbies.

You're all a bunch of fucking assholes. Just sit down and fucking think about something besides your own damn life and maybe you'll get it.

Posted by: John | July 31, 2007 10:45 AM

Anti-Peta commenters,
Since you can't get anything else through your thick heads and cruel hearts, at least TRY to remember this:

1. this is a pro-animal activists/pro-animal w/s, therefore...

2. WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR TWISTED, UN-EDUCATED, IGNORANT, ABUSIVE, PATHETICALLY STUPID, BIZARRE, MANIACAL, COMMENTS...WHICH, BTW, DOES NOT AFFECT OR CHANGE OUR POSITION because...

3. YOUR COMMENTS REFLECT THE TYPE OF PEOPLE YOU ARE, WHICH IS NASTY, INHUMANE, IGNORANT, NARROW-MINDED, MALICIOUS, AND HATE-FILLED.

4. In contrast, we are people of STRONG CHARACTER and have all the attributes and virtues that you will NEVER have.

Comment all you like...it only serves to confirm that we are - by far - the more decent, respectable, humane, and conscientious people that you are not...so THANK YOU for proving us to be people of morality and integrity!

Posted by: Ariel | July 31, 2007 02:41 PM

What's with everyone & the stupid argument that "there are other bad things in the world..."?

Yes, killing humans is bad. Molesting children is bad. The Iraq war is bad. Abusing women is bad. This idea that we have to rank all bad things in order of badness and only worry about whatever is ranked number 1 is stupid. What Vick did was a) barbaric and b) a crime. Guess what -- people are outraged (and why shouldn't they be? It's not like my outrage over Vick's behavior means that I think Darfur is a Good Thing).

I'm all for prosecuting all the criminals out there -- it's not like we can either deal w/Vick OR lock up child molesters... really, we can do both.

Posted by: chris dean | August 28, 2007 11:26 AM

Why is everyone acting like they want to hang vick for fighting dogs.this is crazy this has been going on forever but now a wealthy man do it and get caught its ok.since everyone is agaist cruelty why the black people hasn't recieved anything for what we have been through.anyway he said sorry don't take his career away from him.if was a different race would this still be happening?

Posted by: tameshia | September 4, 2007 02:35 PM

I think that vick has done his time why don't all the hippies/and feminist just leave him alone. There are way more important things in the world to worry about,like the recesstion in or own country.

Posted by: Brian Harrington | May 21, 2009 12:39 PM

beng an avid animal lover I feel that Vicks should give half of his earning's this first time to SPCA donations, and I do feel t his is not

Vicks in no way can repent for his acts, he should be made to give half of his first year earning's to SPCA.

He once was a Falcon, now he has brought to Eagles flying to close to the ground.

No I have no feeling for this inhuman species and will never watch him play.

I am a big football fan but will never watch the Eagles again ....sorry!!!!!!!

and those who use all that profain language concerning people that love animals are #@*& are very sick humans also that have no concept of why our world was created, and why we have animals on this earth ....HELLO

Posted by: alice noriega | August 21, 2009 11:23 AM

beng an avid animal lover I feel that Vicks should give half of his earning's this first time to SPCA donations, and I do feel t his is not

Vicks in no way can repent for his acts, he should be made to give half of his first year earning's to SPCA.

He once was a Falcon, now he has brought to Eagles flying to close to the ground.

No I have no feeling for this inhuman species and will never watch him play.

I am a big football fan but will never watch the Eagles again ....sorry!!!!!!!

and those who use all that profain language concerning people that love animals are #@*& are very sick humans also that have no concept of why our world was created, and why we have animals on this earth ....HELLO

Posted by: alice noriega | August 21, 2009 11:23 AM