While what Tony Taylor did to those poor dogs is disgusting,I applaud him for being man enough to finally stand up and say "Im guilty".

Posted by: Andrea | July 30, 2007 04:02 PM

This dogfighting is not to be tolerated. Vick should get the electric chair for participating in such a heinous crime. Spectators should also be hauled in to jail. It's an outrage. Are we still in a Nazi Germany mentality? A Gladiator mentality?

Posted by: Donna Sandell | July 30, 2007 04:04 PM

TO ANTI PETA PEOPLE:
I read a lot of comments asking why Vick is getting singled out. Let me answer that: because it's all over the news and he's a celebrity.

My friend J just had to close her animal shelter because she did not get any donations. My wildlife center closed last year because I did not get any donations. The inner-city 24 hour vet clinic in our area that treated strays for free just went out of business.

All of us had websites. If we had spray-painted a celebrity or made a spectacle of ourselves, we would have seemed foolish but at least we would not have lost our animal resuce centers. At least PETA is saavy enough to know what gets attention and money.

TO PETA SUPPORTERS:
I know you're passionate about this story, but PLEASE give 100 hits once in a while to stories like the fish quilt so other animals can get some attention too.

And lastly, to those who are about to say why do we care about dogs when kids are suffering: I ask the question again: give me a logical reason why you think that a human's life is more valuable than a dog's.

Posted by: Maya | July 30, 2007 04:36 PM

Thats a bunch of hog-wash,you racist pigs could care less about a fuckin dog,i can take your dumb asses to plenty of dog-fights.Take your ass up in NORTH GA,and fuck with those hillbillies,that fight dogs,hogs,bulls,and chickens,AND ANYTHING THEY CAN MAKE A COUPLE OF $$$$'S.Take your hypocritical ass up there and fuck with them.Tony Taylor has nothing to tell because it didn"t happen.Vick***will be may i repeat he will be cleared of all charges now run and tell that,you fake ass dog lovers.What about our kids that are dying everyday in this inhumane war yeah what about all the body bags coming through our postal service,what about it those are humanbeings,why your ass is not speakin out against that bullshit,you are using VICK to show african americans (niggers) as u would call us,that there are still some racist fucks out here that hate black people, hold on you talk about VICK needs to die Bitch pls,they should have hanged some of yaw'LL SLAVEMASTER'S FOR THE LYNCHING OF OUR ANCESTOR's,KEEP IT REAL MF,THOSE WERE SOMEBODY's loved one'S THAT WERE HANGED BY THERE THROAT,CAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN,SO LIKE I SAID BLACKS HAVE COME TO FAR TO LET A SMALL GROUP OF IGNORANT ASS HILLBILLIES THAT DON'T REALLY STAND FOR ANYTHING BUT SLAVERY TRY TO TAKE US BACK IN TIME,U CAN TRY EVERYTHING AND IF ALL FAILS TRY GOD(U KNOW PRAYER WORKS)if u are such loving people ,and u don't condone killing of animals,oh yeah MICHAEL VICK IS NOT A DOG HE'S ONLY HUMAN*****VICK KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE PRIZE,AND THATS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER JESUS CHRIST,AND HE WILL SEE U THROUGH,WE LUV U,AND WILL NEVER TURN OUR BACKS TO U,BEFORE I CLOSE,REMEMBER THE WORD SAYS,THAT NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST U SHALL PROSPER,LET ME BREAK IT DOWN TO THESE HILLBILLIES THAT DON'T KNOW,THAT THE SAME PIT(HOLE)U ARE DIGGIN FOR VICK IN NO TIME ALL OF U WILL FALL IN IT,I DIDN'T SAY IT ITS IN THE WORD,NEVER FIGHT EVIL WITH EVIL,OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND READ IT SOMETIME!!!!!

Posted by: msboss | July 30, 2007 05:00 PM

This whole issue becomes increasingly interesting. Concerning animal abuse and it's unanimous approval of certain classes, specifically in favour of dog abuse reaches similar dimensions as in China! It's incredible but true: a western, so-called civilized nation reveals to be on the same level with the third world, concerning it's bad treatment of animals. specially certain backminded classes of the american society seriously refuse to accept the indications and guidelines of the law!

This is not just tragic but a catastrophe regarding America's leading role in front of the whole world. A nation which was till now a great example for the other nations collapses morally because of the stubbern disobedience of some criminal idiots refusing to admit their bad treatment of animals, resp. dog fighting. It is very important that Vick's codefendant pleads guilty for the whole issue!

Nevertheless i just can wish and hope that the american law shall punish the guilty criminals with all the possibilities at hand because it's clear: behind every broken law is a dirty business and it's shameful for Mister multi-millionaire Vick, who wouldn't need all this dirty money but who indulges obviously in this matter out of personal passion - and this is the true sadistic monster crime! A small criminal does it for the money; a big criminal does it for the pleasure - this also regarding bullfight and hunting! So you certainly understand that i'm not a racist but a misanthrope and this is worse; a racist can be educated - a misanthrope remains with his idea till he dies. It's irrevocable, irreversible and sealed! And all the animal haters have to swallow this because they made of me what I am! But for to show you your miserable attitude: for the next earthquake I'll send you my rescue dogs! Thank you!

Posted by: Old Spiderwoman | July 30, 2007 05:44 PM

Well said Spiderwoman. You are a true epitomy of humanity. I have thought long and hard about the response of msboss, but it appears to me she has a hard time using her words anyways.
Love and light to all of my PETA supporters, anti-Vic supporters, and even Ms.boss.

Posted by: Amanda | July 30, 2007 06:27 PM

msboss

You are truly ignorant. You badly need an education. First you insult and curse animal advocates and then you name Jesus; you make no sense. It was difficult reading what is your inability to write a sentence but your spelling also is atrocious. When you make a point be logical in your approach. BTW, I have protested the war and speak against the war in my history classes; I also am a dedicated animal advocate.
BTW, is the NAACP fighting for the rights of Whites or Latinos or even women for that matter? Hip hop continuously denigrates women in their songs; what are you and the NAACP doing about that?
If you are so concerned about the war go out and do something about it; desist in denigrating others who truly love and advocate for animals. It is so counter-productive. You say not to judge Vick but you and all of the other animal-haters and PETA-haters have judged all aniaml advocates and have resorted to childish tactics by name-calling. Whew, such ridiculous efforts!

Maya, I am truly upset that the shelters closed and that the clinic went out of business. The animals suffered as a consequence of all this. You proved my point though; animals get very few donations from the public. Why people begrudge others that want to help innocent suffering animals is beyond me.

Posted by: Ana | July 30, 2007 06:31 PM

To msboss--what on earth are you talking about?? For someone who writes about the bible and prayer, you certainly have a dirty little mouth and a major hostility problem.

Posted by: Kelley | July 30, 2007 06:40 PM

Wow, MsBoss July 30 at 5PM, you are in serious need of medication!!!You probably can take us to a bunch of dog fights because that is the type of person you are, brainless,misinformed,and just plain fucking STUPID !!!You talk about God and the likes,and by the way ,God spelled backwards is dog,I don't really think you or people that think like you,(Vick) are going to ever get to heaven,at least lets hope not,we had to deal with your dumb torturess asses here on earth,besides,all dogs go to heaven and they don,t want the likes of you up there!!I am so glad to see all his sources of money slowly going bye-bye,that's how you hurt a rich bastard with no other feelings or emotions or soul in his body,take his money away.Next lets hope to God that we can take at least 6 years of that so called "mans"life away!!! Dogfighters arn't smart people,they are spineless monsters who want to be men,but will never be, and so they kill dogs.Oh yeah,MsBoss,why don't you report all these dogfights you can take us to and try to collect the $1000 reward for there arrests,then you can use the money to maybe get an education and quit babbling bullshit !!!

Posted by: Robert | July 30, 2007 06:44 PM

MSBOSS

I see that you mentioned god, I cannot read your entire comments becuae it is in all caps. First of all maybe you should pray, is that sort of language used in your church? F**k ya praise the lord!!!

As far as the slavery comments..

Chris Rock put it best in his comedy special...All black Americans that complain about slavery and the white man trying to keep them down get in line for a one way ticket back to Africa. I do hope your flight does not land in the Congo.Heard of Darfur?

If Vicks is found guilty, will you say the government framed him, or right an apology letter here on PETA(not in all caps).

please do tell me where this church you attend is because I would love to go to a church that preaches like you do! Hell yes Amen!

Posted by: A | July 30, 2007 07:21 PM

How can msboss use that type of horrific language and bible quotes in the same sentence? "Christians" like that just baffle me on every level. Not only their blatant cruelty for "gods creatures" but their hypocrisy as a whole. Show me one passage in the bible where Jesus pitted innocent animals against one another till the death and to gain profit no less or even for thrill. Then show me where Jesus said that killing, shooting,and hanging a weaker being, a living breathing, feeling, being was loving and christian like. Vick and the others will get what they deserve and race wont matter. They are murderers. And whats worse they pick on the weak. Their lives had value too msboss. You came to a site that is dedicated to speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves and you abuse even the readers here just as Im sure you abuse animals that are so unlucky to cross your path. I am sad for you that you lack compassion as a human being. I am sad for any thing whether it be a child or animal whose little life is left in your violent, compassionless hands. God bless.

Posted by: stacy | July 30, 2007 07:38 PM

The 18-page original indictment can be found at this link:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick1.html

Apparently though, there will be a superseding indictment in August, which could mean even more charges against Vick. Taylor is probably just plea-bargaining to save his behind at the expense of Vick's.

Posted by: Mike | July 30, 2007 07:52 PM

I don't know why you are all concerned about Mr. Boss. It's just Vick.

I heard since he has the time he is on these blogs trying to do some damage control and PR.

Posted by: Michael | July 30, 2007 07:58 PM

I would like to see msboss reply to the comments about her. I'm pretty sure she can't rebuttal. I appluse to amanda for her mature reply to msboss's coment. I myself don't feel so cool about it.

Posted by: Desiree Lee | July 30, 2007 08:18 PM

Ana, you're so right about that. I don't try too hard to understand people any more, but I do cling to my science to keep me sane, ;)

By the way, it's interesting to see people like ms boss on here. Malcolm Gladwell in his book The Tipping Point cited an experiment that reminded me of this. In NYC police were trying to reduce crime on the subways, and they kept increasing police presence to stop crime.

Then one researcher decided to remove all graffitti from the subway trains and to prevent theft at the token station. Well it made an enormous difference. Crime went way down. Removing images of disrespect and criminal activity reduced crime.

The point is, if you have an environment that is hostile and negative, you're inviting nasty people like ms boss. If your environment is "clean" and respectful, that's what you invite. As long as PETA shows nasty images, they're going to have these psychos wasting everyone's time on the boards.

Just thought I'd mention that.

Posted by: Maya | July 30, 2007 08:52 PM

Vick should probably follow his lead. Although what this guy did was disgusting, I do think that it's good he manned up and realized that he was in the wrong. The first step to changing your ways is to admit them. Hopefully through all of this, he has learned a lesson...and hopefully while he sits in jail, he will also be able to learn more lessons.

Posted by: Wendy | July 30, 2007 08:58 PM

Msboss you are certainly not going to heaven with your views on animals and all of God's creatures. In the bible it says we are the custodians of animals and need to take care of them. You are obviously a fake and a phoney and are writing on this board to show your hatefulness which is not the Christian thing to do.
You also need to learn how to spell and write better so why don't you go back to school and make something of your life and become a better person. This space is for animal lovers, not for haters like you,

Posted by: valerie | July 30, 2007 09:06 PM

MSBOSS, keep on preaching! fuck these racist sons of bitches, what they need to do is have some sex or something because they're all probably virgins! and i see that dumb broad ANA is in this blog as well, so i'm going to tell you this, shut the fuck up bitch because tricks like you can suck a nut! you don't even know what the hell you're talking about!

Posted by: michael vick | July 30, 2007 09:10 PM

wow Donna Sandell, electric chair? people who murder humans don't even get the electric chair! dumb bitch

Posted by: michael vick | July 30, 2007 09:12 PM

Well said to everyone but ms boss . Msboss what you need to know is that the issue is animal cruelty dog fighting stop trying to make it a racist thing it isn't, are you aware that Russell Simmons is voicing his own outrage about Michael vick and dog fighting along with many others , like Moby , and various animal organizations. Ms boss you are a heartless person , you have no compassion for anything you are very miserable , you are lost in darkness, you are mean spirited your heart is empty and you have no soul.

Posted by: Raina | July 30, 2007 09:46 PM

Vick is a sick man. Yes, he is sick because the allegations say so. Um... Child predators are sick. Rapists are sick. Serial killers are sick. Dog fighters...well...um I think...maybe. No I can't really say they are sick. I do think however think they have an abnormal aggression for a blood sport. Then again so does Americans. Come to think about it, I really don't care. Sorry. I tired of hearing about this tired subject. Post all your whining when he’s found guilty and not before. It probably will make some you all look more credible instead of looking like some media puppets. And the mob gathers……oh and yes, a human life is more important than a dogs. We don't eat dogs we keep them as pets that why empathize with them. What about those rednecks that cock fight? What? Huh... Oh thats right, THERES NO CELEBITY TO LATCH ONTO AND CRY TO GET LYNCHED.

Posted by: petrillo | July 30, 2007 10:40 PM

i think the only reason m.vick is being treated like this is because he is black. this stupid as peta group (lol) is just doing what white slave masters use to do by making money of hard working black people. u bitches are mad that m.vick has money and is able to provide for his family. in the words of 1 of my favorite rappers anybody associate withpeta need 2 just kill u self

Posted by: m.vick is innocent | July 30, 2007 10:51 PM

Ms Boss,

Shame on you for suggesting a race issue...

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy

"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men."
Leonardo da Vinci, artist and scientist

Posted by: A | July 30, 2007 11:11 PM

I must say that this is a very bad situation for Vick. He does have the right of do process. I must admit Iam supporting Vick as he go thru
the process of the Law. Now, Ive been a Pitbull breeder for about 11 years, not once have I faught one dog. Not because I was afraid,I knew it was Illegal. Vick is the big name on this ticket,but believe me peta people this thing is bigger than Vick it is international as well as in the states also you would be surprise who is involve this is not just a so called Thug sport. Its not just local guys trying to earn a hussle on the life of a dog. Sorry to say. Lets just hope those cops in New Orleans get the same punishment for the assassination of some 20plus dogs at a school shelter during katrina and gave there word to the owners there dogs would be safe. One family came back to get their dogs,3 out of 4 dogs were killed(bullet in the back of their heads).The one that got away,Oh he was a black pitbull that hid behind a desk. its on the internet look it up.Peta you have made your point in Atlanta with the plane flying over calling them dogkillers please don't judge everyone by one person's ignorance. In that case we all are guilty of one thing or another. While Vick may derserve the electric chair according to one's comments, we deserve the same. Those that pre-judge Vick cheat on there taxes,commit adultary,over-eat and over endulge in alchahol, so I guess if you havent done any of these then you are the ultimate canidate for Heaven. Let us all reason with our own lives.

Posted by: Matt | July 30, 2007 11:30 PM

The federal indictment against Vick and company is a good use of my tax money. Go Feds! Go PETA!

Posted by: SuzyQ | July 31, 2007 12:25 AM

MBOSS,
I am not a member of P.E.T.A, I am simply an outsider who is slowly gaining interest. That being said, I can honestly say that you just made the biggest ASS out of yourself. I read your post and I was literally laughing out loud. As I agree with you that many blacks have come very far, you are obviously not one of them. Maybe you should harness all that hate you have for the "WHITE MAN" and use it for more productive things. I will not go as far as to say you should care for any animals (or have any children for that matter) but as a Veteran myself, maybe you should volunteer at a Vets hospital.
Also I want to know what bible you are reading because I do not think my grandma would have made me go to church three times a week if I was picking up your ignorant, poorly used vocabulary.
Have a nice day, and God Bless P.E.T.A, and of course you MBOSS, because I am sure he is really happy to have you representing him. (I am being sarcastic MBOSS, just incase you are too ignorant to understand)

Posted by: Longcut | July 31, 2007 12:59 AM

vick's co defendent tony taylor is plea bargaining now.
headline news tonight says vick was in 7 dogfights while taylors were still " associated" with him before 2004,
hopefully with his confession and help, the authority can nail vick , the other thugs and round up all the spectators too and put all them in jail .
oh,by the way, remember to throw away the key to their cell too.

Posted by: ann | July 31, 2007 02:08 AM

msboss,
what r u shouting about here?
r u manic depressed? or r u a retard?
may i suggest u quickly go to ur local clinic, get a prescription of PROZAC?
reading ur comments gives me a headache, pls use small letter , or get lost.

Posted by: ann | July 31, 2007 02:39 AM

hopefully this development will eventually lead to vick's conviction. in reaction to the infamous earlier comment, why make it into a racist issue? 2 wrongs don't make a right, I look forward to the guilty being punished this time.

Posted by: Poornima | July 31, 2007 02:42 AM

msboss:
I am an African American, an animal lover and a member of PETA and I fully approve PETA's actions and decisions. Don't make a racial issue out of ignorance. PETA is fighting for the right thing! The way you talk makes me feel shame. I also think at our African heritage and our African tribal ancestors never were speciesists until the white man invaded the continent and brought us to America in slavery. But now we are here and have to make the best out of OUR AMERICAN NATION! Brothers and sisters don't bring shame on African heritage - please, please, please!

Posted by: Nathan B. Jackson | July 31, 2007 06:39 AM

I wondered how long it would take for race to come up? Well are Africal Americans the only ones that are allowed to be passionate about protest? The right to free speech is only allowed by them?

Posted by: carmen | July 31, 2007 06:51 AM

MsBoss:

Please do not use the name of my Lord or His Words to defend your racism and ignorance. If you had actually read the Bible you would have picked up on the fact that mistreatment of animals such as that perpetrated by Esau & Nimrod was condemned by the rabbi in the old testament. As for the war issue, you probably complained, along with the rest of america, and called us "unpatriotic" when us "liberals" complained. Regarding the comments on slavery: as a person of black ancestry, you should feel sympathy for animals that are enslaved merely because they are weaker than the men who oppress them. It was people just like the animal liberators of today that abolished slavery and fought for civil rights. Oppression is wrong no matter who is the victim and the perpetrator.

By the way, there is this great tool on your computer called "Spell Check". You should really check it out. No, it doesn't mean Jesus approves if the red lines appear under your words, it only means you can't spell.

Posted by: Janet | July 31, 2007 08:29 AM

To ms boss:
It isn't "racist" to condemn dogfighting. I wouldn't care if Michael Vick was African-American, Italian-American,
WASP-American or anti-American, but I do care about dogfighting and want to see it severely punished up to the limits of the law.
Dogfighting has even larger ramifications to it than the cruelty inflicted on the animals. It is also primarily associated with drug culture and criminal behavior, and no amount of ranting is going to make it otherwise. This isn't about Michael Vick, per se, or about race. It's about cruelty to animals and the necessity for putting an end to it.

Posted by: Susannah | July 31, 2007 09:37 AM

msboss - you are wrong making a racial issue out of this case! my husband is african, not african-american and our whole family is very animal loving! me and my husband are against dogfights and condemn vick's criminal acts in every way! we talked to many africans, europeans and americans and they are all against vick! go on peta - you do a great job!

Posted by: jen obamba | July 31, 2007 10:52 AM

The only reason some people here are raising the "race card" is to deflect away from the real issue, which is plain and simple - ANIMAL ABUSE.

If any of the anti-PETA folks took a fraction of the time that they spent trying to put together what can barely be called a sentence, they would know that PETA has been dealing with animal abusers from all races and walks of life. The post that was after this one is about Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, who are both white, and the politicians and lawmakers being targeted regarding the Mike Vick situation are mostly white. Just spend 10 minutes on PETA's website, in the section with "action alerts" - they are targeting companies, politicians, celebrities and non-celebrities, who are black, white, hispanic, european, rich, poor, skinny, fat, whatever.

If you are an animal abuser, and if PETA becomes aware of the situation, they will target you if authorities do not appear to be taking the appropriate steps to stop the abuse.

If you are not an animal abuser, but for whatever reason keep being brainwashed by the morons who insult animal activists without reason, take the time to read through the various sections of this website. I DARE YOU to watch PETA's videos (ALL of them - KFC, circuses, using wool and leather for clothing, vegetarianism, animal testing, etc.). This is real stuff, not just someone making baseless allegations. It is pretty horrendous stuff to watch, but if you have one shred of compassion, you will be affected by what you see and maybe you can start taking steps to doing even the smallest thing to help animals.

I am not a religious person (though I have values that are Christian), but was nevertheless horrified to read msboss's post. She is clearly an emotionally disturbed person who should not be considered as representative of black people nor of religious individuals.

And lastly, WAY TO GO to PETA and EVERYONE who did something to raise awareness of the situation regarding dog fighting. Even though this campaign started due to Mike Vick's specific situation, everyone is talking about dog fighting now, even people who previously never even knew this sort of thing was going on. All of those individual emails, letters and phone calls make a huge impact, and everyone should be proud of their individual and collective efforts. Vick is going down, one co-defendant at a time, and more animals will be safe!

Posted by: Michele | July 31, 2007 11:31 AM

I hope those involved get what they deserve...how much of a big man do you have to be to harm those who cannot speak for themselves???? This angers me when those with money use it for such negative reasons. Why not help those in need??? This is such a serious issue, harming of animals is awful.It needs attention brought to it and to see people posting such stupidity here is depressing. Why not use that energy to do something positive. It is not a race issue...why is that always brought up? That is not what is important and I hate that selfish way of thinking, if you want racism eliminated quit bringing it up! Stick to the real issue here...animals have no one to speak for them, PETA needs to be applauded for what they are trying to do to help not only the pitbulls but all animals. And "rappers" don't need to be quoted here...Jay-Z uses dog fighting in one of his videos...wow what a big man he is....fighting pitbulls. I think all of you who posted such negative comments here need serious education...pick up a book, help those in need,volunteer, do something. The point is animals are being harmed...it doesn't matter who is doing it or who did it. It needs to be stopped, so please stop bringing in your sick selfish close minded issues here. It is 2007 get with it!

Posted by: Stephanie | July 31, 2007 12:47 PM

why dont u protest the people causing the genocide darfur, u know something important then animals and mike vick.

Posted by: juice | July 31, 2007 12:48 PM

I am so tired of this being called a "RACIAL" thing. Come on now. Does anybody really think if this was Payton Manning or Matt Hasselback we would pat them on the back and say "Nevermind your white please keep torturing and killing dogs" Umm no. Michael Vick being black means absolutely 100 percent nothing to me. I wish people would just take a look at their dog or cat and imagine somebody dipping it in water and electrocuting it. Or even better imagine somebody slamming it's head into a wall over and over. Is that a black white thing really? We are not keeping our eye on prize here. With any color you get some bad ones and some great ones. Michael Vick just ended up being a bad one dressed like a great one. Now lets remember why we are here and save some animals.

Posted by: Angee | July 31, 2007 12:58 PM

One thing that needs to be done is follow up on exposing ALL dogfighting, not just what Vick is involved in. There's fighting going on in LeFlore Co., Mississippi, for example:

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070731/NEWS/70731016

I encourage everyone here to post any stories you have heard about dogfighting in YOUR area, and let PETA know about it!

Posted by: BullyDawg | July 31, 2007 01:02 PM

I guess msboss is a little angry and I think he/she may be a product of breeding from Michael Vick - Ignorance Breeds Ignorance. Also I guess he/she may be a little angry because Vick really is guilty or he would not have to hire almost a whole law firm to work for him. I hope he has to spend a lot of his money as he won't be making anymore.

Posted by: memories | July 31, 2007 01:10 PM

To msboss:

Please give us names or addresses or the location of those "hillbillies" up in North Georgia that fight any animals, we would like to arrest and convict them too. You could even do it anonymously, just report it to the local police or the FBI, or here at PETA.

I do not care who it is, famous or not, white, black or purple wrong is wrong and ALL animal fighters belong in jail.

Do you think God cares what color your skin is? I do not think God does, but likewise God would condemn not based on skin color, but on actions bad and good. God would not condone this kind of violence, and after all God knows who fights animals, breaks the laws and sins, even if the rest of the world does not know. Ultimately, animal abusers cannot hide from God, nor God's punishment for this type of cruel violence. The Bible and God both state to abide by the state's laws and aniaml fighters are breaking those laws, as well as any law of human decency.

Posted by: SUSAN | July 31, 2007 01:27 PM

Why is it that you guys are so on Michael Vick. But we have Koreans Eating dog and not one of you went over there and tried save one of them. We have people that hunt deer every day and not one of you jumpped in front of a bullet. Lets just call it what it is the man is in the lime light cause seriously if this was the regular average joe you people would not be making a big deal out of it. Finally to Maya If you were on top of a skyscraper and you had a 3 month old child in one hand and a pit pull in the other you can only save one which one are you going to save.

Posted by: Ronald Hopkins | July 31, 2007 01:31 PM

peta is bunch of bullshit..who give a damn about a damn dog..or any other fuckin dog that can kill or harm a human..peta get off vick and I am going to continue to fight my dogs. TO HELL WITH PETA!!!!!!!! BURN IN HELL ALL PETA MEMBERS...I WISH THE WORST ON ALL OF YOU BITCHES

Posted by: wildchild | July 31, 2007 01:42 PM

a man who admits to abusing animals, giving them cruel lives and even crueler deaths doesnt deserve to be defended no matter what card you play. using race should somehow make us feel sorry for him? the only ones being supressed here the ones without voices and sadly most of their lives have been silenced by the hand of michael vick. animal cruelty means disprespect to all life. I have lived with animal abuse in my own home and i was too young to stop it from happening to my family pets and to my self, and hopefully publicity about mr Vick will stop the suffering of animals and people alike in the future.

Posted by: stasya berber | July 31, 2007 01:50 PM

Since Tony Taylor is making a plea bargain against Vick, I wonder if Tony is a "racist"???
Or maybe he just wants "to ruin Vick's life" because he's "jealous of Vick being a wealthy celebrity"???...hmmmm...
Gee, where have I read those types of accusations before????

Posted by: Ariel | July 31, 2007 02:56 PM

Remember, PETA didn't start this whole thing---the feds did. If you want to accuse someone of racism, accuse the feds (though I certainly don't believe this is a race issue).

Tony Taylor isn't admitting guilt because he's gone honest all of a sudden. He's plea-bargaining to get a lesser sentence by implicating Vick.
Taylor indicated the dogfighting was financed almost entirely by Vick. In other words, according to Taylor, Vick was fully complicit in the dogfighting.

I think it's about time these boards were actually monitored for the lunatic fringe element. Some of these morons get a big thrill from saying "fuck" on the internet. There should be guidelines. Any profanity or ad hominem attacks will automatically disqualify your post. There's way too much chaff here, and much too little wheat.

Posted by: Mike | July 31, 2007 03:06 PM

Dear God msboss - you're brilliant! Your support of Vick is like Ann Coulter to the Republicans - you soil his name even more than you help it. We need more of you to stand up, take a bow and show the world what kind of people supports men with these allegations under their belts. So come on out all you swear totin', race-card pullin’, yee-haw yodlin’ folk and show 'yer faces.

But, please for the love of the bible, don’t represent it - don’t "run and tell that". Your interpretations are a bit off as I don’t think God (of any sort) would really appreciate you speaking on His behalf. Mind you, I am not religious, (religious with a label, I mean) but I appreciate religion and those who use it for the good of man – yours seem to inspire hatred. Do you think others of your faith would appreciate your vitriol? How can you call us racist and then make reference to “hillbillies” as if they represent all white people? And you used the “n” word, I didn’t. Keep it alive, msboss. I won’t, but you can. Everybody’s blood is red, including yours, so get off your high horse.

When the story broke, I didn’t even know who Michael Vick was by face – I didn’t care. But I did care about what he was being accused for. I didn’t see his picture until way later and tell you what; I still don’t care about his face or skin. For you and the NAACP to pull the race card is such garbage – this isn’t about you, or your skin color, or Vick’s - this is about the DOGS and their violent treatment – those same dogs who come in brown, black, white, grey, charcoal, and don’t look at each other with disdain based on their skin (we should take their lead). I hope we don’t forget THEM if this inflames into another politic-soaked, legal puppet-show, race war. Bottom line, if this was Bobby Petrino, outrage would be just as rampant.

I have to tell you though - I can appreciate it now that the NAACP is stepping in with their delicate, slightly-accusatory tongue - it is spreading the story even farther, reaching out to even more people who would otherwise not pay attention to this story, so good on ‘em.

And one more thing - you all might be surprised to know that your common animal lover is also a people lover and does support human rights – this topic just happens to be about dogs, so quit the nonsense of accusing us of having no regard for other humans – it’s just a dumb notion.

Love ya! Bye!

Posted by: David Risley | July 31, 2007 03:08 PM

msboss, michael vick, michael vick 2,3,4,5 etc,
it is ignorant creature like u gave the black people the black eye.
how pathetic !!!!!!!!

Posted by: ann | July 31, 2007 03:13 PM

screw peta...yall are so stupid

Posted by: Sarah | July 31, 2007 03:21 PM

WOW. Maya, I used to agree with your posts. After this...I am speechless. You seemed like such an intelligent person but did you honestly ask why a human's life is any more important than a dog's?

"Its better to stay silent and let people think you are a fool than open your mouth and prove them right"

Posted by: Mike | July 31, 2007 03:36 PM

I own three dogs of my own and I just can't come to understand how somebody could be so cruel to these wonderful creaters. They bring a smile to my face each and everyday!! I just can't understand how anybody could do these awful things. It makes me sick. Those poor helpless animals.. If only he could be treated the way he treated these dogs! If only he could feel the pain they felt...Him and everybody eals involved should be put away for life. This is murder.

Posted by: Karah | July 31, 2007 03:46 PM

Haha, I can't believe people think this is a racial thing. I had no idea what Michael Vick looked like when I heard about this and I still despised him. Don't cause division where there isn't any. It's a waste of time. Of COURSE blacks are still discriminated against in the U.S., but this is not one of those situations. I'd suggest you find a real case of racism and focus on that rather than defending an evil man just because he is of the same race as you.

Posted by: Canaduck | July 31, 2007 03:47 PM

Michael Vick

Your comments directed at me are pathetic and cowardly. That's precisely why you have dogs fight. A mentally limited idiot like you can do no more. I am laughing at your comments. You sound like a little boy, very little. Hopefully, you will land in jail for your illegal dog fighting antics.

Posted by: Ana | July 31, 2007 03:52 PM

Michael Vick I do have 3 advanced degrees. It is obvious by your demented anger and lack of writing skills that you did not get past grammar school. My profession is very legal; I don't fight dogs like you do which is illegal. But so is pushing drugs. I am still laughing at your impotent anger and pathetic words towards me!!! ha ha ha ha

Posted by: Ana | July 31, 2007 03:59 PM

Everyone needs to just calm down. All that cursing isn't going to help in any kind of way. It's only showing ignorance and immaturity. This has nothing to do with race. Anyone who has any morals knows right from wrong. I think the electric chair is a little extreme, but anyone, including Vick, who is proven guilty of cruelty to animals needs to be repremanded accordingly. Just because some people say that it is just a dog, doesn't mean that they are worthless. All of you who are using race as an excuse need to ask yourself how we are ever going to live together in peace? You are the ones who actually sound racist by calling white people
"hillbillies & slavemasters." Someone wrote that black people are thought of as
"niggers," I don't recall reading anyone being called that in any of these comments
We all know what happened in the past with slavery and I for one think that it is a disgrace for anyone to be discriminated against because of the color of their skin. That was never part of God's plan and neither is cruelty to animals. And to Michael Vick, "What does sex have to do with any of this?"

Posted by: Katie | July 31, 2007 04:06 PM

;) Hmm, Mike, was that an answer?

If it was such an outrageous question, and the answer is so obvious, please enlighten me.

Why, I ask again, is a human's life more important than an animal's? I'm waiting.

Posted by: Maya | July 31, 2007 05:49 PM

David: Thank you for your sane comments.

It seems that the animal-hating, PETA-hating sector can only resort to cursing and to making absurd sexual comments about animal advocates.

This is an animal rights blog discussing issues pertinent to its agenda.

Along with the dog fighting victims are the other victims that have not received any press---the cats, kittens, rabbits and other dogs used to train and make the pitbull dogs "angry and mean". They died violent deaths or died slowly from their wounds.

Thank you to all of us that are trying to gain justice for animals!!!

Posted by: Ana | July 31, 2007 06:02 PM

Maya, there are too many "Mikes" here. It's getting confusing between the pro-PETA and anti-PETA Mikes. I'm the pro-PETA Mike (Gotta come up with a better handle).

Posted by: Mike | July 31, 2007 06:20 PM

PETA = Racist, hypocrites!

Oh you love jeering a famous black man don't you. Screw your fascist, racist organization. It's not about justice for animals but rather it's all about lynching a black man. You should be ashamed.

Posted by: Roy | July 31, 2007 06:29 PM

PETA is Gay there a bunch of stupid fags!!!LOL stop buttin in peoples lives.Thats fucked up what he did but i just hope he can still play for tha falcons!i bet if yall were stranded with a animal u would kill it instantly! So shut tha fuck up u gay Fags I eat anmals and wear leather deal with it and shut up . if yall got some probs eat some KFC Bitch!LOL LOL LOL LOL

Posted by: Alex Franchi$e | July 31, 2007 06:38 PM

Roy

I think your comment would be more appropriate on the Ku Klux Klan blog.

BTW, all types of people are members of PETA. By that I mean race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, agnostics etc. so what is your point.

I don't care that Vick is black; I care about the animals and how they suffered. Using the race card shows ignorance---AGAIN!!

Posted by: Ana | July 31, 2007 06:45 PM

The animal and Peta haters should not get anymore too much attention because it becomes insane to repeat on each page the same bogus: an idiot is an idiot and cannot be educated! If for him this here is a sexual, racial, war- or other issue let him rage against the wall and spit nonsense - in this way they make a fool of themselves!

Posted by: Licorne | July 31, 2007 06:45 PM

everyone should remain focused on the abusers out there, famous, not famous, black,white, america, not america. it's everywhere, it's in your neighborhoods.

one thing to msboss-
body bags don't come through the postal service when they are sent home from war. if your angry-do something about it.

Posted by: remember all the innocent | July 31, 2007 07:09 PM

To ALLISON FRANCHISE

Think back, to when you were a kid.Who fed you?Who gave you shelter?Who made your life worth living ( or not worth living sense you are so "Compassionate").Now imagine you are 7 or 8 and you parents throw you on a treadmill, give you gun powder to eat, and beat you. You have NO CONTROL what so ever at his point.You don't what is going on all you know is that you are hurting and very angry.Imagine you are locked up, not just in your room, but a room that is very small and that you can barely stretch in. Then after your routine of everything you are being gathered around.People are shouting yelling and all then there is another kid. Hes looking straight at you yelling and in his eyes hes saying he wants to kill you.You have NO CONTROL. Dogs, and animals, are like children. They are domestic like you and me.The want love and compassion just like you did when you were little. Why shouldn't every dog have the same. Why is it ok to treat dogs like such animals. Beat them deprive them of food and water, and even kill them. We do not have such a right to do it to INNOCENT animals or human beings. The way you act seems to me you are saying its ok to do the same to people.Its not and its not ok to do to animals. Love you animal and treat him like a family member. They LOVE YOU!! Peta FOREVER!

Posted by: Zero88 | July 31, 2007 07:53 PM

Well, God Damn it! This is a little hypocritical don’t you think. Where to start…. How about Tony Taylor. This is the guy that is the known dog fighter. In the indictment it states that that he was the one that killed the dogs. He was the one that started the “Bad Newz Kennels.” Now this is the funny part. You people on this very board, are applauding him for “stepping up like a man” yet, you all want Vick to get lynched? Are you fucking serious? Excuse my language but this doesn’t make any sense. You want the blame to be on Mike Vick even when the holy 19 page FBI indictment alluded Tony Taylor was more ruthless. I had a feeling you PETA just wanted a celebrity to go down just to advance your cause, but this just confirmed it. You have lost all my respect. DAMN!

Posted by: JUDAS | July 31, 2007 08:43 PM

I can't imagine how idiotic you must be if you think we're doing this because he's black. We're doing it because he did ANIMAL CRUELTY.
Oh and for those asking why we rather not help other worldwide problems, for example, War, is because PETA is a ANTI ANIMAL ABUSE ORGANIZATION. There are many other organizations supporting important issues.

Posted by: Safira | July 31, 2007 08:47 PM

Maya,
I'll answer you!

No, a human's life is not more important than an animal's life.

They are equal in my opinion and I totally support your statement!

GO PETA!

Posted by: Animal Lover | July 31, 2007 09:02 PM

First I would like to say to MSBOSS when you speak of slavery please keep in mind that Vick is no different than a slave master. Training dogs to fight one another and chaining them in your back yard with the only reward being food and water is no different than human slavery!

"He has a kind heart. You see that in a child that is kind to animals. It's in the way he pets them, or brings an injured bird home, or takes a dog out for a walk when no else will."

Why are so many people so quick to say that dogs are just animals when they alone teach children so much about life that humans never can. They teach our children unconditional love, and responsibility. They teach them the true meaning of Loyalty. They have been known in many situations to protect their families from harm.

For the ones of you that think that dogs are just dogs apparently you have never really lived with a dog or a dog that is placed in the proper environment. My dog burst with love and I would not trade him for anything in this world, and to think that he could have been a victim of someone like Michael Vick makes me SICK!

Stop making this an issue of slavery, or race..the true slaves in this story are the ones found on Michael Vicks' property, and our dogs each come in many different colors not just Black and White...

Posted by: Dana | July 31, 2007 09:20 PM

Licorne, while I agree with you wholeheartly, the truth is these are the types who actually inspire continuous dialogue in this society. You’ll notice that all the really beautiful entries on these boards go unaddressed while the hate-mongers garner attention and response from people who would not otherwise speak up. Look at the bright side: they continue the conversation and that is what is important. They are doing more good than harm. I say, bring it on – continue the dialogue no matter what you have to say – just keep it going – even if you need to call me a racist fag or whatever the buzz word of the moment is. Otherwise, this whole thing will fade away like so many other issues in our world. The more power to them – sad they can’t do it with more dignity, but remember the demographic…said in a Homer Simpson whisper: They’re kinda s-l-o-w.

Posted by: David Risley | July 31, 2007 09:39 PM

Judas,
I dont want Mike Vick lynched, I just want him to step up. The Detroit News reported that Taylor is not getting a reduced sentence for his plead. He didnt plead guilty just to screw Vick over for a better deal. Step up and be a man!! Famous or not, who cares??

Posted by: Andrea | July 31, 2007 09:53 PM

wow your saying that animals are just as important as pets? so if your mother and your dog died youd be just as down about the dog as your mom? if so you need mental help and for the peta people protesting vick at court and at the falcons camp GET A JOB!!! i mean if hes found guilty the nfl will do something get a life and worry about yourselfs

Posted by: think | July 31, 2007 10:21 PM

Hey Judas, Michael Vick funded the whole dog fighting operation. Get your facts straight and read what it says.
This is an animal rights organization board, so for all you animal haters go to your own damn board and talk amongst yourselves in your own incoherent languages. GO AWAY!!

And you tell them Ana!!

Posted by: Valerie | July 31, 2007 11:18 PM

hi ana, sorry i took so long, i had to go train my pits, but ummm, you pretending that you are an educated person, isn't going to anything but make you feel better about yourself! peta members and their beliefs are so rediculous, "humans life and an animals life are equal" that has to be the most mentally retarded statement i've ever heard in my life! and if you actually agree with that, then there is something definitely wrong with you in the head..go smoke some weed or something and enlighten yourselves you uptight tree-hugging morons! haha

Posted by: michael vick | July 31, 2007 11:25 PM

this is what i dont understand people is making about deal out of mike vick fightn some dogs of fuckin well he got bored and wanted to do something fun dont act holy like you havnt done something that was mean america needs to worry about more important things like missing kids homeless people war high ass gas prices aids cancer than rathe or not this man fought and killd some dogs

Posted by: sheri | July 31, 2007 11:50 PM

I have read through some of the comments submitted. What floors me the most is...how can this be a racial issue. This is about the inhumane treatment of dogs. I have many friends that are "black" and share the same opinion as me. This is a cop out! I am so sick and tired of hearing about racisum and "we are picking on the poor black people" why don't you just get a life. This has nothing to do with race, this has to do with cruelty of animals. Chill out, you folks that are pissed, there is very damanging evidence againt Vick. If he was white I am sure this would not come up as a racial issue. You stupid idots, this is about dogs not his sorry ass. People that use this as a racial issue are very misguided. Until now I did not even know who Vick was. Who cares what color he is. The topic is if he did this to those dogs,it is against the law! Personally, if he is guilty, he should be made as an example. I would give him life or death by electrocution, hanging, stoning him to death or better yet, impale him on a spicked pole (up his butt) and let him die a very slow and painful death! The reason he probably does this is because he is a big pussy and he is afraid of dogs! It probably gives this sick fuck away out from his fear of dogs and gives him a false sense of being superior. I hope he rots in hell.

Posted by: kathi | August 1, 2007 12:03 AM

to MAYA, I totally understand what you are asking of those who think: "WHY do you think human life is more important than animal life?" But since I can't answer your deep and civilized question with a narrow-minded view - like the animal haters have - I can only say that I agree that ALL life is equally important because ALL life is inter-related, ie, dependent on each other.
But the animal haters are SO self-focused and sometimes SO filled with hate, that I believe they really cannot see the importance of human life - despite what they say (only words) - let alone the importance of animal life and our environmental life. So I would say that is why they won't even attempt to answer you question with logic and dignity.

to ANA and to all animal activists/supporters, ONLY a suggestion: I think it's about time that we stop giving these ignoramuses any kind of attention with our civilized, decent, respectable, humane, and educated responses to them.

Clearly, they are only seeking attention with their irrational, non-sensical, and hate-filled comments. They are empty people who have a desperate need to TRY to make themselves feel superior by TRYING to antagonize, rather than be educated about animal advocacy and life in general.
They are also clearly telling us that they are a waste of our time and basically that they are life's losers...and I think that they should confine their ignorance, hatred, and unsubstantiated sarcasm among their own type.

Posted by: Ariel | August 1, 2007 12:16 AM

Roy,

We are not lynching a black man. Vick was the main financier of this illegal dogfighting business. He was involved all the way including killing dogs that did not perform well in dogfights. What a shame!!!

Posted by: SuzyQ | August 1, 2007 12:33 AM

Good evening.
My personal take on the Vick issue is as follows. If he is guilty of the charges, he should be punished according to the law. However I don't think it is wise to turn the situation into a racial circus. People have fought Pits as long as there have been Pits.
The media giants , who own the record companies, who own the Artist,(and I do mean own) have desensitized the young impressionable black youth by showing Pits fighting during hit songs by their favorite artist.And they watch these things over and over.(kinda like a comercial) And it's been quite a few.It's been glamorized and fed to the hip hop community continuosly for the last 5 years.Looking virle and masculine, with a snarling dog.
Remember everyone wants to be like Elvis or dance like Mike (remember the jacket .I had one too). And they're still impersonating Elvis to this day,even in Japan.
The younger generation is very impressionable, always has been, always will be. The media needs to watch what they feed people becuase that which is seen, will be emulated.
While I am against dog fighting personally, I don't think he should be fired from the team or the NFL. Mabey he could do time on the off season.Public Service for life.
To many young Americans,Vick was a hero.He could be very instrumental in turning this national epidemic around.CNN said 1 in 5 Chicago youths were fighting dogs.(I wanna be like Mike).*Jordans still fetch well over a Hundred clams.
I think we as Americans need a wake up call. In the roman days man would fight man against Lion. Man has always fought each other in War after War after War.Are we not killing some one as I write this.It's not all the terrorist. They look just like regular Iraqis to me.
And how soon we forget slavery and all it's many injustices to humankind. Wish there would have been a PETH(...Treatment of Humans). Not dissing America, it's sad but also true.This has been sensationalized to the point of being devisive, and unhealthy.I wish all involved the best, and I mean all of us......A 46 Yr. old African AMERICAN MAN......Thanks

Posted by: Homer Hammonds | August 1, 2007 01:30 AM

Perhaps i am a touch slow or simple but why does holding an admitted dogfighter, responsible for his actions constitute rascism? Animal cruelty is a crime and needs to be enforced to the fullest extent of the law. I personally think that is a large problem in general- the lack of enforcement for existing animal cruelty laws. I understand our justice system is taxed to say the least but theres just no excuse for convictions on animal cruelty cases to have no consequences. For judges to let sadists walk and let them continue to own and abuse more animals. It sets up a cycle of failure. For the officers who do try to prosecute offenders, the judges let them off virtually scott free. They return home and commit more crimes with impunity. It's almost an act in futility to even bother tryng to get a conviction with some weight to it. This must change, and if a satisfactory judgement can be reached perhaps it will send the message that animal cruelty is starting to be taken seriously. That offenders can and will be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Posted by: Mindy | August 1, 2007 02:00 AM

Does anybody believe that there would not be protests for Vick if he was white?

I don't think it would matter. There would still be protests. It's about the victims, the dogs.

Posted by: REASONABLE QUESTION | August 1, 2007 03:18 AM

Hey Ronald. Dog's find lost kids, escaped criminals,sniff out crack and heroin sniff out bombs,help the ,handicapped,etc.,etc.,etc
They protect cops and firefighters. Find skiers in avalanches. I just hope if you have kid's come up missing, or you're victimized
and robbed,they don't waste the %^&*ing dog's time to help you out. We owe dog's a HELL of a lot more than they owe us. Maybe you'll go blind and need a seeing eye dog. I hope karma bite's you in your ignorant ass. And also, it's PEOPLE who make dog's mean. Feeding them gunpowder,teaching them to kill,etc. Your about as IGNORANT as Msboss. I'm going to pray tonight one day y'all need a dog for help, and can't get one. Perfect justice for both of your shallow mind's. How much more stupid can you be? Not much. It's hard to imagine ANYONE so ignorant as to not knowing how important dog's are to human's, not the other way around. STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: norman | August 1, 2007 04:22 AM

MSBOSS...

You just contradicted your remarks about 'racism' by calling these animal rights advocates "HILLBILLIES". Aren't you using racial terms yourself?? Im of asian descent and im concerned about the cruelty of animals. So, obviously, this isn't about racism. So stop being so sensitive, it isn't about your "race".

Posted by: Maria | August 1, 2007 05:38 AM

Your Telling me that a animal that attack you, a child and even it's own owner and you would consider that more important than a childs life. Now i'm not a peta basher, I love dogs and all animals but i'm also a father and for my little girl I would let that dog go. Also I've seen a P.S.A with Pam Anderson about chicken. Now this is a woman that i've seen sporting a fur hat, coat, and boots, at the VMA's. I'm not pulling the race card but how come ya'll not at her. It goes like this if one does it all should get the same treatment no matter if you black, white, rich, poor. I'm not bashing but you guys are singling him out.

Posted by: Ronald Hopkins | August 1, 2007 07:28 AM

Why not let this man have his day in court?Do not rush to judgement.Mr.Vick,your comments on this website,do not put you in a good lite.Maybe you need to be quiet.You do not set a good example for young people saying those things,and folks who say things back , are being just as bad.

Posted by: Nancy Green | August 1, 2007 09:18 AM

Peta doesn't only go after african-americans, they go after anyone who is guilty of abusing animals. Just look at their website. They're after IAMS, kfc, Burberry, a kosher slaughterhouse and just last year there was a huge campaign about dog abuse in China. In fact, they have a whole website dedicated to the horrific leather trade in India. Wouldn't it be silly if Indians started crying "racism!!" because of that? BTW, prominent African Americans such as Alice Walker and Russell Simmons are also animal rights supporters.

Posted by: peace | August 1, 2007 09:46 AM

While I support fair and ethical treatment of animals, I support the fair and ethical treatmentof epople, first! PETA has always been perceived as an organization of fanatics, and one with a myopic view. Dog fighting is no worse than racing a greyhound, riding a horse (and killing him if he's hurt) or even fishing. How many of you hunt, or support it? What about zoos? Consider those unfair, too? Are you all vegetarians? Refuse to wear leather? Where does it end?
I hope that Vick is cleard of all charges. I think that he is only being dragged into this because his name was on the property and he has more appeal than any of his co-defendants. He will also land on a another team, as the "other" side of America loves a winner more than the animals they both pamper, and wear. Grow up people. Get behind a real cause--eradicate poverty, racism, illiteracy and violence.And, buy a fur coat!

Posted by: K...MD | August 1, 2007 11:52 AM

What I do not understand is why people continue to ask why PETA only focuses on animal abuse and not that of human abuses? I believe it is quite clear why. There are many organizations that support many things, and PETA has chosen it's place as has many other organizations. That does not mean that PETA does not agree that human rights are important or that protesting the war is important. It's just one part of the picture. Go PETA, animals deserve so much more than humans deserve, for they are far more pure than us.

Posted by: Scarlett | August 1, 2007 02:41 PM

Michael Vick is not the only one involved right? Well....then it seems to me all that peta can say is Vick.
CAN YOU SAY VICK...I KNEW YOU COULD! We might as well prepare a cross for him to bear and whip him all night then crusify him for all the sins of dog fighting. He is already guilty to peta. no one responded to my comments earlier because I don't spit venom. It seems like people just want to lash out knowing there is great security behind the computor.

Posted by: matt | August 1, 2007 03:39 PM

Hmmm, while msboss is quoting the Good Book he'd better reread the Book of James and its admonition to control the tongue.

Your Heavenly Father doesn't like it when you use all those nasty words, msboss.

Oh, here's another little quote from Proverbs since we're doing the Bible thang:

"The righteous man regards the life of his animal but the mercy of the wicked is cruel."

Got that, msboss? Got that, Michael Vick?

Posted by: Chris | August 1, 2007 04:22 PM

There are 4 people involved in this. Tony Taylor has always been a known dogfighter in Va. Tony Taylor is the horrible one yet; you people see this as merely a footnote and still salivate over Vicks' blood. Looks like to me you whacko’s that scream for justice are just as vicious as pit bulls. Whine after the trial please! The irrational way that animal right activist approach issues turns people off.

Posted by: silverman | August 1, 2007 05:37 PM

Ronald...Pam Anderson wears FAKE, or "faux" fur. She recently discovered that Uggs are made from sheepskin and has thrown those out as well.

KMD...yes to all of your questions. Look at PETA's front page; it says right there "Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, use for entertainment, or abuse in any way." Most folks here don't wear leather, or even wool (they wear synthetics), they don't hunt, don't believe in circuses or rodeos, or eat ANY animal products. Some of us are not all the way there yet...I still own some leather shoes simply because I can't afford to buy good non-leather shoes right now, but I choose to no longer support the leather industry.

Not that you'll listen to any of this, anyway.

Posted by: BullyDawg | August 1, 2007 05:37 PM

why do people come on here and complain about PETA not standing up for human rights? Isn't the acronym People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals? Aren't Amnesty International and Food not Bombs the organizations helping the human condition? How can a group be effective and try to combat every screwed up part of this world? It's quite interesting to compare the posts of those who are blasting PETA to those who are trying to have an forum for communication... very interesting. And while the dunderheads may proclaim they are sticking up for human social concerns, isn't there mounting research that those who abuse animals are also likely to abuse humans? Oh, and the notion that this is a rascist witch-hunt bent on lynching a black celebrity has to be the most absurd idea in all of this mess. The only color this was about was green you big freaks.

Posted by: c_note | August 1, 2007 05:38 PM

I can't get over how uneducated the animal haters sound on this board. People like mboss, Michael Vick and Michael Vick 2, Sheri. They are such ignorant, souless people. To say it is okay to fight these dogs, and who cares about the dogs is so ignorant since they can't understand how much torture the dogs are going through. I hope they rot in hell or jail with these views.

Posted by: Valerie | August 1, 2007 05:52 PM

K...MD asks where does it end? How about where does it start? How about everyone doing their part to reduce suffering in the world, and this includes animal suffering. You can't reduce all suffering, but you can reduce what you're able to.

Once again, people don't seem to understand that PETA is an acronym for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. Animals are their speciality. That is what they do. Why not write to the cancer society and ask them what they're doing about Parkinson's?

I'm glad though, K, that you hold PETA in such high regard that you think they can eradicate poverty, racism, illiteracy and violence. Nobody else has been able to up till now, including the groups dedicated specifically to those purposes.

Posted by: Mike | August 1, 2007 06:34 PM

I agree with poster "A" who said:

"you would be surprise who is involve this is not just a so called Thug sport. Its not just local guys trying to earn a hussle on the life of a dog. Sorry to say. Lets just hope those cops in New Orleans get the same punishment for the assassination of some 20plus dogs at a school shelter during katrina and gave there word to the owners there dogs would be safe."

Yes, those people also need to be thrown in Jail. That was HORRIFIC and the only thing that is keeping that from getting this kind of attention is that Vick is a huge football star, and this was planned sadistic cruelty for kicks and profit. The Katrina situation was different.

But although I agree with these statemetns of yours, I cannot understand your desire to support him at this point. Have you read the indictment? Its seems completely impossible that he was not a planner of these fights, and actively involved in it. Seems that Taylor did MORE executing, but so what?

And what really bugs me is so many African Americans SAYING this is about race, when they are MAKING it about race. Why defend this guy just because he's black?

Dude, Scott Peterson was convicted in the court of public opinion long before he was convicted in a court of law, and he is white. The reason? PULEASE, WE ALL KNEW HE DID IT! What freak dies his hair and tries to skip town with a bunch of moeny who is not guilty?

It is equally implausible that Vick isn't RIGHT in on this thing, so PUHLEASE.

Posted by: Stef | August 1, 2007 10:13 PM

To Maya- you believe a dogs life and a humans life are equal? that is ridiculous to say such a thing i mean both are important but when it comes down to it which one would u save if you had to pick one. i hope you would chose the human

Posted by: Sam | August 1, 2007 11:50 PM

i see some using the "Thou shalt not kill" arguement.i think god ment humans because If god ment not to kill any kind of animal or species im sure all of us would end up in hell because there is no way that any of you people could have not killed a fly or bug in your day

Posted by: Sam | August 1, 2007 11:56 PM

I support Michael Vick but I must admit that a lot of people defending Vick sound pretty stupid. On the other end of the spectrum it is PETA people that drive me crazy! Whether it's the extreme right or extreme left it's the extremist that are the true fruitcakes. The way you all go about your business is illogical and mind boggling. Thank God there are still people left in the middle that think sensibly and deal with situations in an appropriate manner.

Posted by: Steve | August 2, 2007 12:06 AM

Show me a vicious pit bull and I'll show you an irresponsible,cruel, vicious owner. All the more reason to lock up all the dogfighting owners, breeders, trainers and spectators for what they've done to this breed. A pit bull that's been trained to fight will hurt/kill not only animals but also humans. So don't blame the breed but blame the person behind it.

Please do not patronize any product that sponsors and glorifies dogfighting. Let us bankcrupt the perpetrators of dogfighting.

Posted by: SuzyQ | August 2, 2007 01:48 AM

I am a little confused and would like some clarification.

What is PETA doing to stop hunters from hunting down innocent deer, rabbits and other animals?

What is PETA doing about bulls, when people tie the bulls' nuts together to get them angry for bull riding?

What is PETA doing about the Zoo's that capture animals from other countries and transport them to the US via barges, taking them out of their environment so people can pay to gawk at them. And a lot of those animals don't make it to the US, because they die from the transport.

If someone can give me some direction to clarify these issues it will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Posted by: Nonetheless | August 2, 2007 08:49 AM

It is VERY clear that you anti-animal activists do not have a reading comprehension ability and retention capability. Over and over again, animal rights' activists have repeatedly, clearly, and patiently explained to you that this org. is about animal rights...not about racism, not about solving the world's problems, not about enforcing the law, and not about every other unrelated subject or examples that any of you raise.
With your responses, you people have repeatedly proven that you are incapable of comprehending anything from the most simple animal rights' comments, to the most detailed comments, to the most varied comments that any normal 3rd grader could fully understand.
So please do yourselves a favor: enroll yourselves in a reading comprehension course, then get a well-rounded education, then learn about compassion and try to absorb it...because obviously you are not capable of absorbing anything educational or anti-cruelty that has been presented to you here.
Otherwise, remain in your ignorance, and take it elsewhere among your own type. Honestly, we animal activists are amazed at your stubborn ignorance and your narrow minds that present such pointless and baseless views.

Posted by: Ariel | August 2, 2007 08:58 AM

I hope all of your dogs die a slow painful death.

Posted by: Mike | August 2, 2007 10:28 AM

Hey Mike,

I hope all your evil wishes boomerang on you. Justice for the dogs!!!!

Posted by: suzyq | August 2, 2007 02:19 PM

;) Hi Sam!

What you're talking about is an emergency situation. Now, I don't know if you've ever been in one of those situations, but I'm a veterinary nurse and I have. It's very different than a philisophical situation.

For example, if I saw a person being attacked by an animal, I do think that it is vital to save the person's life even if it means killing the animal. Absolutely.

But what I am asking is, tell me why PETA people should drop their animal rights work and "go help people". I see no reason why a cat or a lobster deserves our help any less than a person.

That's philisophical. Humans and animals deserve life equally. But if you're talking about a crisis, that's a different discussion entirely. I've been in life-threatening situations, and it's something that in reality takes a lot of thought.

Posted by: Maya | August 2, 2007 03:14 PM

Hi Ariel! Yes, the only real answer is that an animal's life is just as valuable as a human's. Ask PETA haters that question and you wiil see them hurl insults as a desperate distraction because, obviously, there is no logical rebuttal. A person's life is not more valuable than a human's.

I so agree that we should ignore trolls. But sadly most posters, myself included, sometimes can't help but respond to these nasty comments, which as you said, should be ignored.

I do, though, think if someone respectfully challenges animal rights, we should respond, and kindly. If we're just preaching to the choir, after all, we're not getting anywhere productive.

Blessings, :)

Posted by: Maya | August 2, 2007 03:20 PM

“Nonetheless”: Here are a few links to get you started on what PETA and its affiliates are doing on the other animal issues that you mentioned. I hope that helps!
Hunting:
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=53
http://www.helpinganimals.com/wildlife.asp
http://517169.com/

Bullfighting:
http://www.runningofthenudes.com
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=64
http://www.peta.org/feat/bullmovie/index.html

Zoos:
http://www.savewildelephants.com/
http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-zoos.asp
http://www.peta.org/factsheet/files/FactsheetDisplay.asp?ID=67

Posted by: Jack | August 2, 2007 03:31 PM

hi,nonetheless,
here is my answer to u,
PETA has limited source, to cover everything re cruelty to animals.
bull fighting is terrible, but that is in spain, do u think PETA can go to spain,mexico, philippine,all over the world to speak for the voiceless animals?
may be the billionaire bill gates can do it, i ll certainly remind him when i see him next time :)
we need to clean house at home first,may be with a little helping hands from " u " too ? :)
hope i hv answered ur question.
as for those people complain about PETA is not working for all the abused children, homeless people,domestic violence,water pollution, greenhouse effect, global warming, ...etc.
i suggest u check ur local yellow page under " charity organization " so u can put some helping hands for ur favorite charitys.
for me, i love animals so that is why i am here besides donate to my local humane society and PETA every yr.
again,PETA is the organization speaks for the voiceless animals, don't get confused pls.

Posted by: ann | August 2, 2007 04:05 PM

Hi, Maya! Oh yes, I'm very "guilty" too of trying to explain to these people about animal rights'...and yes, it wouldn't do much to sing to the choir. (very good for learning more from each other though). However, I was thinking along the lines of the trolls who are so hard-core nasty, like the one who TRIED to insult Ana and others in similar situations. Their persistent ignorance thrives on attention and wastes our time. So they continually fail to understand that their nastiness and obscenities do NOT affect us. But ya know, I just realized something: it shows to other anti-animal activists just how much we are able to withstand and have it slide off our backs. It proves that we have the utmost strength and virtues that we carry forward in our beliefs for a VERY worthy cause...and what a fantastic way to show the intense importance of our cause!
So as we continue with our educational animal activism "classes," perhaps not now, at least we may have planted the seeds in the somewhat - for lack of a better description - "half decent"- minds, who will get the drift some day hopefully.

Posted by: Ariel | August 2, 2007 06:59 PM

Maya...what in the world makes you believe you can call any of us who are against animal cruelty and dog fighting "fake ass dog lovers?" Where do you get your information? Have you not seen any of the videos online depicting these horrible offenses? Do you own a dog? (dear Lord, I hope the answer is no) Also, myself being a Woman of Color, I can say to you...stop with the excuse of slavery for your inadequacy and ignorance. Your rambling, makes-no-sense post evokes one emotion in me...pity. I feel sorry for you. How dare you use the name of our Savior, Jesus Christ in your vulgar post. Shame on you.

Posted by: Darcy | August 2, 2007 07:21 PM

Hi there Darcy. I think you were referring to someone else's post LOL. I'm quite sure I never said such things. Good for a laugh, though. :)

Posted by: Maya | August 2, 2007 09:33 PM

Oh, I get it.

Darcy, the commenter's name appears below their comment, not above. The comment you're referring to was ms boss. Common mistake.

Posted by: Maya | August 2, 2007 09:35 PM

Hi Nonetheless: You shouldn't be asking what PETA is doing about the hunters, rodeos and circus animals - you should be asking what YOU can be doing.

As Jack pointed out, PETA is doing plenty on these topics and more. Search the website, you will find answers to your questions - not in a forum dedicated to dog fighting.

This is not to minimize your contribution as those topics are all relevant and welcome - but it just seems a little out of left field as if trying to lessen the impact of the current topic of dogfighting.

Yes, there are so many animal horrors out there to fight, but instead of the overwhelming concept of addressing them all at once, take it one at a time: make your choice and make a difference with it while others make a difference with other topics.

Cheers.

Posted by: David Risley | August 2, 2007 10:06 PM

Darcy, that is NOT Maya who made those statements. I think you may be referring to "msboss" (maybe Maya had a comment posted underneath msboss's name and you are reading it incorrectly). Maya is a very articulate, pro-animal individual who would never even consider using the kind of language that msboss has done.

Posted by: Michele | August 2, 2007 11:39 PM

Thank you greatly, Michele! :) :::smiles:::

Posted by: Maya | August 3, 2007 12:53 PM

IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS I NOW SUPPORT AND GIVE THANKS TO PETA AND AND THE MANY OTHER ANIMAL RIGHTS AND RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE AND APPLAUD ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AND ALL WHO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THEM!

I AGREE WITH ANDREA's 7/30 POST IN THAT WHAT TONY TAYLOR DID TO THOSE POOR DOGS IS DESPICABLE, BUT HE IS NOW DOING THE RIGHT THING BY OWNING UP TO AND TELLING THE TRUTH! MICHAEL VICK NEEDS TO DO THE SAME.

YES, MV WILL HAVE HIS DAY IN COURT WITH HIS BATTERY OF LAWYERS AND WISHFUL THINKING TO BEAT THE SYSTEM IN THE FACE OF HORRIFIC, OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE!
WHATEVER THE VERDICT, IT WILL FOREVER PALE IN COMPARISON TO THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION AND RIGHTLY SO.

RE THE AGENDA OF THE IGNORANT, HEARTLESS TROLLS AND INSENSITIVE OTHERS IN THEIR DESPARATE CRIES FOR ATTENTION AND FLAGRANT ATTEMPTS TO INFLAME, INCITE, AND INTIMIDATE, ALL IN THE NAME AND DEFENSE OF ANIMAL CRUELTY IS MINDBOGGLING.

THEIR IRRESPONSIBLE, IRRATIONAL RAMBLINGS AND PSEUDO-INTELLECTUALIZING THE SAMO SAMO, WEAK SENSELESS ARGUMENTS MERELY EXPOSES THE HATEMONGERS, RACISTS, AND ANIMAL ABUSERS [AND THOSE WHO CONDONE ANIMAL ABUSE] FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE... SICK.

ARIEL: BRILLIANT ARTICULATION OF FACTS AND SAGE ADVICE!
ONE CAN ONLY HOPE IT WILL BE DULY NOTED BY ALL.

STEVE: EXTREME CRUELTY MOST OFTEN REQUIRES EXTREME MEASURES! IF YOUR APATHETIC SELF TAKES EXCEPTION TO THAT, TOO BAD!

Pycho/MSBOSS... GET HELP!

HEY HOWIE... THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY! DESPITE THE MANY IGNORAMUSES STILL OUT THERE ABUSING ANIMALS, PEOPLE BY ENLARGE ARE MORE EDUCATED AND CONCERNED ABOUT ANIMALS TODAY, AND MORE AND MORE HUMANE MEASURES IN PLACE THAN EVER BEFORE. WE'VE COME A LONG WAY, BABY! SO PLEASE... SPARE US THE LAME COMPARISONS IN DEFENSE OF ANIMAL CRUELTY!

AS C_NOTE SO ELEQUENTLY STATED AND WHICH IS WELL WORTH REPEATING... "and while the dunderheads may proclaim they are sticking up for human social concerns, there is mounting research that those who abuse animals are also likely to abuse humans!

And the notion that this is a racist witch-hunt bent on lynching a black celebrity has to be the most ABSURD idea of all!"

Posted by: Anonymous | August 3, 2007 09:20 PM

PETA SUCK MY DICK, VICK IS THE FUCKING MAN, AND YOU MOTHERFUCKERS ARE BITCHING BECAUSE HE CAN PLAY FOOTBALL BETTER THAN YOU. INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY MOTHERFUCKERS! I LOVE MY DOGS, BUT I LOVE VICK TOO, AND JUST BECAUSE YOU FAGGOTS DONT HAVE LIVES YOU SHOULDNT GET TOO WORKED UP ABOUT THIS SITUATION. SO PETA, SUCK ME OFF...LONG LIVE NO.7 MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

Posted by: Donny | August 5, 2007 02:14 AM

HEY DONNY: WHOA! TAKE A PILL!

FEAR IS OBVIOUSLY RATTLING YOUR CAGE AND YOUR ONSLAUGHT OF VILE INVECTIVES IS MERELY BECAUSE OF A SERIOUS LACK OF JUDGMENT AND COMMUNICATION SKILLS AND ANY ONE WITH A BRAIN TO SEE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ONE!

JEALOUS OF YOUR LOVERBOY?
YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING, RIGHT?! QUIT SKIRTING THE CRUEL TRUTH WITH A LAME DISTRACTION AND JUST FACE IT!

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP MVICK PRAY FOR HIM INSTEAD OF MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 6, 2007 04:12 PM

Okay, so heres how I feel...
What Vick did was indeed wrong, but lets face it the world has bigger problems. Basically I think that you people should worry about more important issues like war, racism, drugs, and other much more important current events. Instead of taking all this energy and wasting it on protecting animals, PETA should put its numbers towards a greater cause. Animals are just that animals, and humans are animals with much more capability then any other animal thats ever been on the planet. So work on protecting US! Id rather you save one human life than save a million dogs.
Also, while I have your attention, I would like to ask a question. Do you, the people of PETA feed your animals meat? Well if you do then dont you see the problem here? Most animals were created to instinctivly eat meat, so if I want a burger I will have one. I understand the choice to eat meat is a personal one, and I respect peopels decisions not to do it, but please dont try and make me feel bad about having a steak, your wasting your breathe.
As for dog fighting yes it's cruel and wrong, but I would much rather have a dog fighting another dog then a dog fighting me. As for Vick he hasnt been proved guilty of anything other then being guilty of charity work in underpriviliged cities. So instead of trying to make him look like the horrible person that he isnt prase him for the person that hes been in the past and for once try using your power for a REAL cause.

Posted by: mike barrot | August 6, 2007 10:32 PM

Okay, so heres how I feel...
What Vick did was indeed wrong, but lets face it the world has bigger problems. Basically I think that you people should worry about more important issues like war, racism, drugs, and other much more important current events. Instead of taking all this energy and wasting it on protecting animals, PETA should put its numbers towards a greater cause. Animals are just that animals, and humans are animals with much more capability then any other animal thats ever been on the planet. So work on protecting US! Id rather you save one human life than save a million dogs.
Also, while I have your attention, I would like to ask a question. Do you, the people of PETA feed your animals meat? Well if you do then dont you see the problem here? Most animals were created to instinctivly eat meat, so if I want a burger I will have one. I understand the choice to eat meat is a personal one, and I respect peopels decisions not to do it, but please dont try and make me feel bad about having a steak, your wasting your breathe.
As for dog fighting yes it's cruel and wrong, but I would much rather have a dog fighting another dog then a dog fighting me. As for Vick he hasnt been proved guilty of anything other then being guilty of charity work in underpriviliged cities. So instead of trying to make him look like the horrible person that he isnt prase him for the person that hes been in the past and for once try using your power for a REAL cause.

Posted by: mike barrot | August 7, 2007 01:34 PM

Mike: Your attempt at civility is refreshing and indeed one is entitled to their own opinion.

However, TORTURE IS TORTURE AND UNACCEPTABLE ON EVERY LEVEL AND IN EVERY ASPECT OF ALL LIFE! To ignore this fact and just say its just an animal, etc., is callous and ignorant.

If you need to eat a hamburger so be it. But forget about trying to justify doing so here!

For Mike and Tony and all others who thrive on the torturing of animals they're just plain SICK and SICKENING and we can only pray that God has mercy on their EVIL souls!

Fact: The perpetuation of ignorance, lame comparisons, UNtrue facts, and sick mindsets continues to result in the horrific, tortuous deaths of millions of animals who feel and experience emotional and physical pain and suffering!

Fact: A campaign dedicated to save animals does NOT mean it does NOT care about human problems! Any comment to the contrary is merely a diversionary tactic to justify an ignorant rant!

Anyone with any intelligence knows there IS a direct correlation of animal abuse and psychotic human behavior thus PETA's agenda does affect many human lives for the better.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 7, 2007 05:48 PM

Dear Mike: Could you make any less sense? Really, most everything you question has been thoroughly and intelligently addressed in these posts. Please read them if you are sincerely interested in answers.

However, I will remind you that the dogs were TORTURED!!! T-O-R-T-U-R-E-D! Any person capable of such barbaric treatment to any animal for any reason is a menace to society and deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Personally, I am sorry for him and do NOT hate him.

Yes one is considered innocent until proven guilty but people are NOT stupid as the few MVick's diehard supporters would like to think they are which is why the court of public opinion has spoken loud and clear in the face of mounds of incriminating and horrific evidence!

IMHO I think MVick would be better off if he repents of and owns up to his despicable deeds because it may be the only way to save face no matter the consequences rather than try to beat the rap and trying to reinstate the hero status he once enjoyed. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE KIDDING?!

Mike, PETA's focus is the ethical treatment of animals. That's what they do! Other campaigns re other problems have their own focus. The weak argument that there are more important problems to deal with in the world is nothing more than a copycat diversionary tactic used as a means to an end by hatemongers, animal abusers and animal abuser supporters.
I pray you are not one.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2007 02:18 AM

The codefendant is just trying to save his own ass. I've said it before and I will say it again.... Go Vick!!!!! We support you.

Posted by: M F Power | August 8, 2007 03:28 AM

Dear MF: Dream on!
Your opinion reeks of error, delusions and unadulterated fear! And as I said it before and I will say it again, pray, baby, pray!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 8, 2007 02:27 PM

I am from wisconsin, the other day I was at the park with my little girl. Then out of no where this pitbull came to the park and attack this litle girl and three other people. I tried to do everything I could to get this monster off the little girl. If I had a knife I would have slit that monsters thorat. How can some of you people say that a animal like that has a life that is equal to that little girls life, by the way the owner was around and her excuss was that "they are friendly animals and she does not know why it did that". After seeing what I just saw I hate those monsters and to all of you who say that animal is equal to me and my little girl you are SICK poeple.

Posted by: Ronald Hopkins | August 10, 2007 11:39 AM

Ronald that is the most simplistic, hairbrained answer I've ever heard.

If that pitbull had been a HUMAN attacking the little girl, I'd say lock him in jail forever. Just like the pitbull - lock the dog up or euthanize it so it won't attack anyone else.

But what if a person attacks a nice, friendly dog? What if they beat it or kill it? Why is the dog's life trivial? It's not.

If you're talking about an emergency situation where either the dog / animal or the human is aggressive and attacks the other, of course the aggressor needs to have consequences for its actions.

But why is killing a cat or a squid LESS abhorable than killing a little girl? It's not a competition - just tell me why we shouldn't feel sad when an animal dies.

Posted by: Maya | August 10, 2007 04:36 PM

You see, my opinion is that no one is truly looking at the facts here. Our country was built on the foundation that you are innocent UNTIL proven guilty. Vick could be innocent or guilty in my eyes. I honestly cant make a decision because I do not have all the facts of the entire situation, just like all of you. We have what the media has told us, and we all must remember the media is just trying to sell a story. I feel that going around and boycotting Nike for sponsoring Vick with only alleged crimes is utterly ridiculous. Now if these allegations are true, then I agree Vick should serve time, not be put to death because even convicted killers aren't put to death. However, I plan to boycott Nike for the rest of my life if he is found innocent. Vick is the center of a media storm right now, and it will be impossible for him to get a fair trial...and yes he does deserve a fair trial. If he is convicted, he has a lot of explaining to do, but if he is found innocent, a lot of people owe him an apology.

Posted by: Kevin | August 10, 2007 11:10 PM

I'm a big supporter of animals and I would rather get into a car accident than hit one no matter how small meaning a butterfly. Instead of spreading the he say she say of someone that is known to be guilty so he will say anything to save his own butt to the known fact that while PETA is actively pursuing Michael Vick where are the pictures or tape proving that he was at any of those events and I really hate if if a date given is wrong and he was playing football in Greenbay I hope that Mr. Roger Goodell doesn't put PETA out of business for slandering someones name without proof because the lawsuit is going to damage another hope for animals you have all this money to advertise against Vick how about putting some of that energy into the shelters that help animals and have to close from lack of support and funds if you really want to help animal rights wait until the guilty verdict before you try pin a gulity verdict on someone if Michael Vick wins his case PETA and Mr. Goodell I can see you losing most of your supporters because you hype up your cause to save animals what animals are being saved when you are focusing most of your energy one one man Michael Vick. I donate to animal shelters and other causes for animals so you can count me out for support if Michael Vick wins because I can now see where my money is going it is being used for personal attacks on people careers instead of saving animals.

Posted by: Honey | August 11, 2007 11:29 AM

Yal are dumb. Most of you aren't anti-dog fighting, your anti-vick. And that's the truth, if it was some average joe dog fighting you'd be like, thats too bad and forget about it the next day. Your either racist or just against Vick. Than some of you are saying dumb shit like my tax money is well spe