all i can say is YES YES YES!!!

I have a chef here in the city I contacted about horse meat a while back too...

Posted by: doug | May 15, 2007 08:56 PM

That's awesome! That's totally awesome!

Posted by: drew | May 15, 2007 09:17 PM

Hey, I was just wondering - why isn't anybody at PETA doing a press release about the addition of rennet to all masterfoods chocolate? I appreciate that 99.9% of masterfoods chocolate isn't vegan but it's still a huge issue for the number of vegetarians who read the site.

Maybe I've missed it but still I'd be interested in PETA's take.

Posted by: Frances | May 15, 2007 09:25 PM

Is there nothing that this man will stop at - his continued attention-seeking antics to raise his television ratings and continue to try and shock the nation?

As a horse-owner and watching this - I was appalled at the lack of sensitivity to those of us that have a love for our equine friends. And as for Janet Street-Porter bbq'ing horse steaks outside Cheltenham Race Course left a distnct bitter taste. Clearly she has no compassion and has never been close to a horse! Would they eat their pets?

Posted by: Linda Brooks | May 16, 2007 03:15 AM

Ramsay is a real sicko. For his show last season, he raised two gorgeous pigs and slaughtered them, all in the name of entertainment. He hates vegetarians, and is now getting more and more outrageous with his animal killing antics.
This person said his worst nightmare would be to hear one of his kids say they were vegetarian!! He is a horrible, horrible person.

Posted by: Mary | May 16, 2007 05:49 AM

Well done Peta! There are enough animals killed for meat in this country without Mr Ramsay encouraging eating horse. Keep up the good work
Kind regards
Debbie x

Posted by: debbie | May 16, 2007 05:50 AM

Not the best way to enter a debate to be honest.

Posted by: Paul Roseveare | May 16, 2007 06:13 AM

As a horse owner I found watching last night's programme very upsetting.The thought of eating any meat turns my stomach but for people to suggest eating what some people have as pets is just disgusting. What's next Gordon, cats and dogs?

Posted by: lisa | May 16, 2007 06:45 AM

What symapthy I have for your (PETA) cause is undermined by pathetic stunts like the manure dump outside the Ramsey restaurant. I don't particularly care for the man but your bigotry does you no favours.

Posted by: Stephen | May 16, 2007 06:54 AM

Ha ha ha ha! This is brilliant! I used to say well...so hungry I could eat a horse! Note: its a phrase meaning I'm so hungry I'll eat anything, just in case anyone did'nt know!

But I don't think I could ever have eaten a horse even when I was'nt vegetarian!

I am now and intend to be for the rest of my life!

Horses are for riding and loving not for eating!

Posted by: Australian | May 16, 2007 07:10 AM

Why don't you fuck off and let people make their own decisions! Your worse than the people you campaign against!

Posted by: Steve Monk | May 16, 2007 07:16 AM

What a load of bollocks ! PETA should stick the vegies up your arse, maybe then you'd have something worthwhile to discuss.
Leave those of us who choose to eat meat to enjoy and source it ethically, but dont spout off constant crap about meat.
And one final note, I've been to france and can vouch that horse meat is indeed, very lean, and tasty and I will continue to feed this to friends and family who enjoy it, knowing what it is.

Posted by: Anon | May 16, 2007 07:37 AM

I fully support Gordon Ramsay in his endeavours to promote healthy diet, and if that means the odd innocent little animal has to make the ultimate sacrifice, then so be-it. Is it PETA's objective to have a population of overweight, unhealthy people, creating an ever increasing burden on our society, but with happy, smiling animals (which only exist for our pleasure anyway) - or should people like Gordon Ramsay continue to promote healthy eating for all - including vegetarians? No one can condone mistreatment of animals, and I'm sure Mr Ramsay would support this, but your response serves absolutely no purpose other than to highlight what a bunch of infantile idealists you really are. Your ideas are simplistic, border line ludicrous, and in no way in tune with the majority of society. Anyway, must go - cute, furry animals to be slaughtered and eaten!

Posted by: stuart | May 16, 2007 07:50 AM

Seriously? I cannot believe the article I have just read which is massively factually incorrect!
This almost seems like jealousy of a popular figure and is basically an unfounded attack.
How can you justify a comment like "Gordon Ramsay is a cold hearted animal hater" - where is the evidence? Just because he rears then butchers animals on his show. Haven't people been doing this for thousands of years - no doubt with far less care than Gordon does on his show.

Believe me I am far from a Gordon Ramsay lover but felt compelled to voice an opinion of the spiteful article I have just read.

5 TV channels??? Ever heard of Sky?

I also like the fact that you say "evidently Gordon is encouraging more people to eat horse meat" - so you don't actually know? If you read about the show it is merely discussing it as an alternative - At the end of the day what is the difference between a horse and a cow? Except that maybe a cow isn't generally humiliated by jumping fences and racing courses!

I think the horse manure stunt was immature and irresponsible - I truly hope PETA have to pay for this act.

Thanks for listening

Paul Norris

Posted by: Paul | May 16, 2007 08:33 AM

Shame...stunts like this seriously damage an already delicate credability with the general public.

Posted by: Dom | May 16, 2007 09:00 AM

I would like to say i totally agree with the things Paul Norris (see above) has written.
And added to that, i would like to know whether or not you are completely free of any bad habits or thoughts, something which you people seem to suggest with your self-righteousness.
But hey, that is only my humble opinion, and who am i??

Anyway, thank you for listening and good luck.
I will, however, in support of free thought and action, go out and find a place where i can try eating horse-meat.

D.Patyn

Posted by: Dan | May 16, 2007 09:17 AM

Things are happening in this world I would not believe them...

Posted by: Steve the Monk | May 16, 2007 09:27 AM

Regardless of the content - the tone of this article is condescending and ignorant.

If you want people to support your cause, perhaps you shouldn't patronise or belittle them.

Posted by: Alistair | May 16, 2007 09:28 AM

PETA was right to do this.....we live in a world were people do what they like with out thought or consideration its about time someone pointed out its not ok. i dont wanna see a horse carted to a slaughter house on a wim of i fancy that so i will just kill it. how selfish does the human race have to get. have respect for life! we could live in a much better world if we werent so fundemantally selfish

Posted by: kt | May 16, 2007 09:35 AM

just a completely inhumane idiot without knowledge of anything can eat horse meat and also be proud of it! I spit in his face!!!!!!!

Posted by: horse whisperer | May 16, 2007 09:36 AM

I would like to say i totally agree with the things Paul Norris (see above) has written.
And added to that, i would like to know whether or not you are completely free of any bad habits or thoughts, something which you people seem to suggest with your self-righteousness.
But hey, that is only my humble opinion, and who am i??

Anyway, thank you for listening and good luck.
I will, however, in support of free thought and action, go out and find a place where i can try eating horse-meat.

D.Patyn

Posted by: Dan | May 16, 2007 09:50 AM

I eat meat. I enjoy meat. I am a coeliac so if I went Vege I would die from Malnutrition.

Posted by: Philip Le Roux | May 16, 2007 09:51 AM

Oh sorry I forgot to say congratulations on a truely spectacular publicity own-goal.
You have just given Gordon Ramsay the kind of advertising even Saatchi and Saatchi couldn't buy.
Regardless of the ethics of the arguement he is now able to paint himself 100% as sinned against rather than sinner.

Oh and you have also caused an environmental pollution incident that some poor person (not you of course), probably on the minimum wage has to clean up. I sincerely hope you get fined for fly-tipping as I would if I took a load of horse dung and simply dumped it on the land of someone I didn't like.

I have eaten horse meat in France and while I wouldn't rave about it, nor would I as you would deny people the choice to eat it.
The Horse afterall is a prey animal, we are natural born predators. One cannot argue with 5million years plus of evolution.

Posted by: Philip Le Roux | May 16, 2007 10:04 AM

I don't see what all the fuss is about. The horse that Janet Street Porter ate was ethically reared for the purpose of being killed and eaten just like any cow, sheep, pig or chicken around the country. The footage clearly showed the horses in big fields where they were free to roam where they wanted. I can't understand why you all think it was so barbaric just because it was shown on TV. Surely it's better for us all to face up to the fact that our meat comes from animals and not a supermarket shelf - Ramsey is just showing it how it is. Get used to it.

Posted by: Steven | May 16, 2007 10:15 AM

I don't see what all the fuss is about. The horse that Janet Street Porter ate was ethically reared for the purpose of being killed and eaten just like any cow, sheep, pig or chicken around the country. The footage clearly showed the horses in big fields where they were free to roam where they wanted. I can't understand why you all think it was so barbaric just because it was shown on TV. Surely it's better for us all to face up to the fact that our meat comes from animals and not a supermarket shelf - Ramsey is just showing it how it is. Get used to it.

Posted by: Steven | May 16, 2007 10:15 AM

I am an animal lover - I also consider myself to be a realist. The idea of eating horse meat is not a pleasant one. That is my opinion. However Gordon Ramsey suggesting this as an alternative meat source is not something that you should get so riled up about. He is not suggesting everyone should forget about beef and go horse instead or torture the animals.And you obviously have not done your homework if you consider him an animal hater! Do you hold demonstrations outside every restaurant that offers horse meat?? I could give you a few addresses of restaurants in Italy if you feel the need. But really I don't believe in furthering your cause by dropping a load of manure. Immature and futile. Also a waste of good fertiliser.Please continue to focus on the more important issues of animal safety such as torture and ill treatment.

Posted by: Aoife | May 16, 2007 10:21 AM

"I eat meat. I enjoy meat. I am a coeliac so if I went Vege I would die from Malnutrition."

Im sure you mean Celiac and that is completely untrue. A healthy Vegan eats many many whole grains and a diet free from Gluten. There is actually a Vegan cooking blog that got nominated for best food blog. She is a gluten free Vegan from texas, Axsvegan is her name I think, look her up.

Posted by: doug | May 16, 2007 10:22 AM

I don't personally see the problem with eating horse meat. I don't see a problem with eating any type of meat. I don't like fruit or veg so I don't eat them. If I also didn't eat meat theres not much I would eat. I do think it was wrong what you did as it's so childish. You don't agree with what he did on his program, but it wasn't done distastefully, so why take such drastic action? Do more things in a peaceful manner and not so brashly maybe more things would get sorted. At the end of the day everyone is entitled to an opinion, if anything Ramsey opened up peoples mind's. A lot of people get the impression your forcing opinion onto them and thats not way to get supporters.

Posted by: Rich | May 16, 2007 10:28 AM

They indulge in meat of cow and horse;
Stuff their bellies like in France.
Using brutality and force,
Enjoying this earth' last dance.

It's disgusting for my horse and me
to see such ugly thing!
Who shall survive? This we shall see,
When there shall be no earth, no king!

Posted by: The Minstrel | May 16, 2007 10:36 AM

Im cancelling my PETA membership forthwith after this shitty stunt.

A very immature thing to do PETA. Its all gimmicks gimmicks gimmicks with PETA.

Oh and we have over 300 TV channels here in the UK, get your facts right.

I bet you wont post this message will you?

Posted by: JoJo | May 16, 2007 10:50 AM

I think this PETA stunt is ok because if you like it or not it's drawing the attention on the matter - it makes people think - if they like it or not! And this is the important thing!!!

Posted by: Bruno Hager | May 16, 2007 11:02 AM

About two weeks ago in my French neighbourhood a man ate horsemeat. He stated: always when the horse suffered much during the killing I know it because after eating that meat I'm very nervous and agressive - so you see the consequence of such a thing and I just would like to tell to all these horse eating beasts on this site that your heartless stupidity speaks for itself: the horse served us in war and peace in a humble attitude like an angel, just suffering without complaints but I tell you that there shall come a doomsday where all of you shall shout and cry on your knees and nobody shall hear you!!!

Posted by: Door Knocker | May 16, 2007 11:19 AM

Well, what can I say? I actually watched and enjoyed last night's episode of 'The F Word', much like the previous series really. I think that Gordon's ideas about ensuring that his children know, and understand, where their meat comes from is admirable.

Too much food these days is pre-processed gunk and we really do not know what these foods contain. Even the 'fresh' veg in a supermarket has been treated so that:

1. It survives a long time in STORAGE
2. It lasts a while on the shelves after the storage time has passed.

Also, the fact that vegetarians eat veggies and the rest of us eat meat - something that human beings actually EVOLVED into, thus allowing the species to survive - should be just that. Live and let live.

Finally, one of the previous comments I read suggested that Man was not supposed to eat meat and that all life should be respected. Well, I doubt that respect comes into it when YOUR life depends on it. As long as the animal is treated as humanely as possible, then it should not be an issue.

I really do hope that PETA get stuffed for their stupid stunt. Just like terrorists who work to enforce their particular views on people, PETA appear to be doing the same. I was (mostly) on PETA's side when it comes to fur, etc. Now I start to question if that should still be the case...?

Posted by: Paul | May 16, 2007 11:32 AM

Those of you who wrote nasty things back to PETA as well as about the innocent animals you think you are justified in murdering....should just all fuck off yourselves! I think anyone who thinks killing is ok should be killed themselves and just so you know, this guy is a real fucking idiot and disgusting, foul human being as you are all too.

Those of you who are supporters and agree with saving animals and our planet should be complimented for your efforts. This world is sick enough....just turn on PETA and check out what really happens in factory farms and slaughterhouses...do you still think it is ok?

How is killing humane? Was it humane years back when we stood in front of each other and shot one another only to suffer a slow miserable death while fully concious without medication...well, that is what animals endure everyday and it is sickness! Those of you who think it is ok to take part in this truely have a screw loose.

I am soo sooo sooo sick of people telling me, a devout vegan, that I have issues....NO, you h ave issues! I respect life and I respect the environment and for no other reason do I choose my lifestyle. No one and no animal should suffer at the hands of anyone. Yeah, we evolved but take us out on the safari and watch how long we survive....You need to get your heads OUT OF YOUR DISGUSTING AND SMELLY ASSES and wake up.

THANK YOU PETA THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU....without your craziness, no one would know a damn thing. And, you can tell these idiots who replied back with negativity are ignorant and should check out the REAL facts.

Posted by: heather | May 16, 2007 12:23 PM

This is a pointless stunt. It is PETA, shamelessly breaking the law {criminal damage} and self publicising their 'cause' because they have a bee in their bonnet about people eating horses.

Ramsay has done nothing wrong here in my opinion.

He wasn't talking about any transportation issues, just giving people an alternative to boring old, lamb, beef, pork and chicken. All of which i think are delicious by the way.

PETA UK should be ashamed. A pathetic publicity stunt which has only made them look bad really.

And made sure someone goes home needing a bath after cleaning it up.

There is more pressing issues for them to 'deal' with than someone eating a horse on TV.

Posted by: Tony | May 16, 2007 12:29 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Not only is Ramsay an animal hater, he's also a misogynist as well.

Us foodies can do without him setting an example.

And Paul, the point is that animals AREN'T being treated as humanely as possible. So it IS an issue, and if you don't like being forced to confront it, imagine how the sentient animals feel having to live and die in such horribly cruel conditions.

Posted by: KathyF | May 16, 2007 12:30 PM

Real facts?

Evidently, Mr. Ramsay’s latest stunt has been to encourage British people to eat more horse meat, even going so far as to feature a horse-meat barbeque on his show

The evidently in this statement shows that whoever wrote it, didnt see what was shown on programme at all. Ramsey was not encouraging people to eat Horse meat. Janet Street Porter was the one, who did a thing about 'alternatives' to eating beef, lamb, pork and chicken (because of mad cow disease and bird flu) let alone what other problems may arise, with other meat eaten in this country.

Let alone the horse BBQ statement, there was no horse BBQ on this televised programme at all. Yet heather still talks about REAL facts and yet there is none in the opening statement of this artical.

The 'evidently' comment proves no research was done and this act of vandalism is totally unsubstantiated and unneccasary. This also leads me to wonder, who will pay to clear this up? As far as i know, it will be down to a local council and tax payers money.

So the argument is really about how these animals are treated, while in transport and how they are inhumanly killed.

Neither of these points have anything to do with Ramseys programme. I personally think with the unsubstantiated claims here, that the manure stunt was just that, a self highlighting stunt to get Peta in the papers and gain some much need publicity. Unfortunately (even tho they say, no publicity is bad publicity) This act is a final nail in the coffin for anyone tryin to do good, for animal welfare rights.
This kind of act is vile and juvinile and the people who did it should be arrested and prosecuted for criminal damage. Acts like this will never get me to become a vegetarian, let alone back those who are.

Posted by: Wick | May 16, 2007 12:58 PM

Heather wrote:Those of you who wrote nasty things back to PETA as well as about the innocent animals you think you are justified in murdering....should just all fuck off yourselves! I think anyone who thinks killing is ok should be killed themselves and just so you know, this guy is a real fucking idiot and disgusting, foul human being as you are all too.

Good example here of "do what I say, not what I do". Heather needs to spend her time chasing carnivores in Africa to stop them from murdering other helpless and soulful animals. They are foul, disgusting as we ALL are too.

Posted by: Tim | May 16, 2007 01:57 PM

the criminals envolved here are rather the animal haters on this blog! it's always you starting to be offensive - and jojo - as far as i know from your earlier statements you never were a peta member! fuck off - we don't need you sucker! and all you here ignorant idiots - if you hate Peta so much - why then are you spending aaaaall your time on this blog - i piss you off!

Posted by: cappuccino | May 16, 2007 02:26 PM

Some of the people on this board are absolutely unbelievable and I feel such shame for you.
Evidently you have never been taught the very simple word "Compassion."
Do you even know what that word means? I think not.
I had my sweet horse for over
20 years, he carried me on his back ever so gently.
Taking me places a car could never reach, he passed with his loving family by his side.
What a horrific way of saying
thank you sweet boy, for carrying me all of these years and then having him slaughtered and eaten.
I feel anyone that could do this was raised by someone that exhibited no compassion what so ever.
They also raised you to be the
"Classic Bully" as you have demonstrated on this board.
I also had no idea that fighting for a life was considered a "STUNT" thats a new one.
All of you bully's should hang you heads in shame.
How very sad you are.
Judith
The Buddhist

Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | May 16, 2007 03:26 PM

The horses were being looked after fine as far as I could see. They were wandering around in a big field. I don't see the difference between them and the cows in fields all over the country. Just because people have them as pets doesn't make it wrong to eat them. Some people have chickens and pigs as pets. If the horses were being cooped up in wretched little cages like poor battery hens I could see your points, but the fact is they weren't.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with a lot of what PETA stands for but when it comes to banging on at carnivores it just gets stupid and ignorant and it does make me wonder what your limited diets are doing to some of your heads. People eat meat and will continue to do so. Leave us alone to do it in peace and if you don't like Gordon Ramsay then don't watch.

Posted by: Steven | May 16, 2007 03:28 PM

From Steve to Steven:
This is not a matter of diet - this is a matter of evolution. Here we got a first vegetarian minority announcing the coming future end of Neanderthal! Capito?

Posted by: Steve | May 16, 2007 03:52 PM

Just to state the obvious: There is NO humane way to raise and slaughter an animal. Whether it's a horse, cow, or pig...it is still being killed. I found this stunt by PETA to be brilliant. In an field, getting the attention of people will make them think twice about what they're doing. Well done.

Posted by: Becca | May 16, 2007 06:04 PM

As a Brit living abroad I was shocked that this awful Gordon Ramsay is so popular in the UK. Here he is on one cable channel. Trying to translate his language is bad enough but there really is no need because his foul personality comes over as a kind of henchman from the middle ages.
Happy around lots of blood and gore, I am sure a nice bit of good old manure shouldn't bother him. Horses are on a higher spiritual plane than Mr.Ramsay.

Posted by: Maureen E. Roth | May 16, 2007 06:24 PM

Ramsey is a idiot and I also would spit in his face if given the chance - where will it all end? PETA was right to do this...It's dispicable for anyone to eat horses "the horror" The sheer thought of it makes me sick.

Posted by: Rachel | May 16, 2007 09:55 PM

Ramsey is a idiot and I also would spit in his face if given the chance - where will it all end? PETA was right to do this...It's dispicable for anyone to eat horses "the horror" The sheer thought of it makes me sick.

Posted by: Rachel | May 16, 2007 09:59 PM

I think a lot of people here are missing the point about PETA. Yes Peta in general would rather people not eat meat as this is ultimately the best thing for the animals and the environment.

The reason Peta even has a voice is because of the cruelty that takes place when humans are involved with the exploitation of animals.

Yes you may say that these particular horses had a nice life but once there is a taste for horse in the food industry that is when that will stop. They will join all the other animals that are used for food in the factory farms. Horses are already exploited and treat horrendously for their urine so women can have hormones for menopause. I won't go in to the sporting side of things and the thousands of race horses that are killed because they can't run fast enough.

My neighbour has cows and sheep and generally they do have a nice life grazing in their paddocks but then they are tortured and transported in 40 degree heat to get to abattiors where they are tortured again or exported to countries that have no animal welfare standards at all, you have all seen the videos.

Why add yet another animal to the list of poor animals being tortured in the name of food, just because you feel like a different taste for today. You will not die if you don't eat horse in your life time or in fact any meat.

Posted by: Me | May 16, 2007 11:22 PM

Super demo ..... just when you think that people cant get any nastier to animals ..... this man takes takes the vegan cake !!!!!

Posted by: rohini kamath | May 17, 2007 01:27 AM

Compelled to comment after watching the programme. Yes I eat meat but I am also a practical horse owner who works in the countryside and understand the very real birth and death cycle that is part of rural life. However, I have a massive problem with eating horse, aren't cows,sheep and pigs enough? Why pursue another animal just because you fancy it. I have no time for JS Porter or Gordon Ramsay the way in which this was discussed was "aren't we good non lily-livered urbanites really trying to be responsible..crap..give them a bullet and I doubt very much whether they could kill and butcher any beast..it is simply a ruse for viewing content and highlights how far removed they really are from the realities of rearing animals. Very pleased PETA did what they did there has to come a point where someone stands up for innocent animals, who the hell are we to pick off what we fancy for our own consumption...it's enough to make you want to turn veggie.

Posted by: Sarah | May 17, 2007 07:48 AM

The article was obviously written by one of those stupid Americans who have never left their continent.

Posted by: Carlos | May 17, 2007 08:54 AM

anybody who supports eating meat and a non-vegetarian lifestyle is clearly a stupid american who has no class because only retards eat a literally old-as-time form of sustenance.

p.s - it's all contextual, you self righteous half wits. cats and dogs? people eat cats and dogs because they're starving in other parts of the world.

Posted by: jay | May 17, 2007 09:50 AM

I fail to see the evil in exotic restaurants serving unusual food. There isn't much new here, for the past 2000 years, chefs have always brought new items to the table. From lamb, to beef, pork, seafood of all kinds, why not horse? Its leaner than beef, horses produce far less CO2 emissions per pound of meat than cattle. In effect, Mr. Gordon's choice of meat could be a step in the right direction for the enviroment. But then again, PETA is becomming less and less about loving animals, and more about bashing corporate research and capitalism. The manure stunt is childish, your message is lost because of it, and all you have done is wasted valuable manure, and soiled the street.

Posted by: Mark | May 17, 2007 09:52 AM

excuse me but i believe PETA was making a statement with their protesti think everyone who badmouths PETA 4 what they believein can fuck off besides eating horse meat is sick anyway good job PETA

Posted by: AUTUM | May 17, 2007 10:56 AM

excuse me but i believe PETA was making a statement with their protesti think everyone who badmouths PETA 4 what they believein can fuck off besides eating horse meat is sick anyway good job PETA

Posted by: AUTUM | May 17, 2007 10:56 AM

Carlos: your comment was obviously written by one of those stupid commenters who hasn't been at this site often enough to know the writer is British. I also live in Britain, and have visited France many times, but have never felt the urge to eat horses.

Posted by: KathyF | May 17, 2007 11:30 AM

We have been told over and over again how very humane
slaughtering an animal is.
Well hear this, I recieved
one of my newsletters yesterday.
Here it goes,as told by 2
investigators at The Municipal
Slaughterhouse in Juarez, Mexico to document the slaughter of horses.
"A white horse was jolted with a shock stick into the
3'x 8' kill box," "A worker grabbed the back of her neck,
feeling for the spinal cord.
Seconds later he stabbed her and she fell hard to the ground, then stood upright.
Again the hand struck her.
This time she did not get up;
Her body quivered while ALL OF THE WORKERS CHEERED.....
What nice people...How kind.
This little mare came from America.....
To the monsters that see nothing wrong with this, I have one thing to say, please do not have children,
for you will make their lives
horrific.
My grandson stopped eating meat at 6 years old.
His school has started a group called "be kind to animals."
These are the kind of children that we all hope will someday become our leaders.
And Meat will be obsolete.
Judith
The Buddhist

Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | May 17, 2007 11:59 AM

Response to Judith's comment.

Your comment is entirely innaccurate. You fail to address the fact that horses that are slaughtered for meat would have never existed or been raised were it not for that purpose. While its not Walt Disney material, the slaughter of such animals is a tricky process and not without faults. You would be hard pressed to proclaim that you have never messed up at work now and then either.

Second point. You and the parents of your grandson should be prosecuted for pushing your beliefs on a child that deserves to make up his own mind on matters. Eating meat is not an option. The development of the human brain, especially in small children is solely dependent on proteins that meat provide. Lack of meat can also cause Iron deficiencies that can cause behavioral problems in children, and lead to serious health issues. Although I'm sure you'll be quick to respond that you are supplementing his nutritional needs with vitamins and such, secretly, deep down inside you know your lifestyle is unnatural.

Posted by: Steven | May 17, 2007 12:44 PM

Gordon Ramsay is old and in the way.

His celebrity is fading, and he pulls stunts like this to try to get attention.

He's a fool dancing for thr peasants.

Posted by: kelly | May 17, 2007 01:22 PM

to steven:
stop your stoneage comment and rather have a look at godsdirectcontact.org! there you shall see how many nobel price winners are vegetarians and i don't think that they have behavioral problems but you have them because you and all meataddicted slaves here you just love meat and you don't care a fuck if another living being suffers for it and i hope from all my heart that you too shall suffer one day! Yes!

Posted by: silent tongue | May 17, 2007 01:43 PM

Thank You, Thank You,
Thank You, Steven,
I have been waiting for your post and bless your heart, you have not disappointed me.
You are what the Doctors refer to as a
"Classic Bully."
It's your way or no way.
God I hate being right all the time.
You need to start reading what the real Doctors write.
Giving vitamins is a given for everyone.
You can get proteins in so many other wonderful foods other than meat.
You need to get out of that cave you live in and start learning.
I remember speaking with a Doctor about some mental midget that told him "when you pick all of you veggies from the garden you are killing them", what a riot,
I loved this Doctors response.
He said when you pick your veggies they grow back, beautiful as ever, but kill a farm animal and cut his legs off and plant them in the ground and all you get is death and disease, yum, yum, this is what your body is filled with.
By the way, my now 7 year old Grandboy has been moved up 2 grades and he is class Rep.
He also works at the Humane Society for youth.
I would say a pretty good
start for a 7 year old.
But something you may say is say lock that kid up and throw away the key.......
I am laughing so hard I must go.
I have said all I have to say.
I shan't be posting to you anymore.
Because you have proved me right.
I Love You Sweet Boy,
There is still hope for you...
Judith
The Buddhist

Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | May 17, 2007 02:37 PM

PETA is such a contradictory and one sided organisation. On the one hand publishing posters saying giving children meat is abuse and on the other saying support our big brother contestant who is a massive supporter of PETA. You know, the one that spent ages cooking a chicken in the house for everyone.

These kind of stunts do nothing but degrade a message you are trying to get across, or force people into. It's not the way to succeed and to be frank makes you look incredibly foolish.

Posted by: Paul Roseveare | May 18, 2007 07:02 AM

PETA is such a contradictory and one sided organisation. On the one hand publishing posters saying giving children meat is abuse and on the other saying support our big brother contestant who is a massive supporter of PETA. You know, the one that spent ages cooking a chicken in the house for everyone.

These kind of stunts do nothing but degrade a message you are trying to get across, or force people into. It's not the way to succeed and to be frank makes you look incredibly foolish.

Posted by: Paul Roseveare | May 18, 2007 07:02 AM

Dear Paul,
Enjoy your Horse Steak...
Judith

Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | May 18, 2007 02:00 PM

Judith, Silent Tongue et al:

Vegetarian food is fine and I eat it quite often. I know you can get some lovely vegetarian meals so my comment before was out of hand. I was just getting a bit angry at how blinkered you all seem to be with your complete refusal to see both sides of the argument.

Like I said, I agree with much of what PETA stands for and can't stand seeing animals like battery hens being kept in inhumane conditions, animals being killed for fur, dancing bears etc.

Calling Gordon Ramsay a cold hearted bastard and saying you hope I suffer one day too is completely out of order though and you completely discredit the good work PETA does by acting so immaturely and pulling stunts like the horse manure. The animals that Ramsay keeps on his show are kept in the best possible conditions and are also slaughtered without stress or pain. He didn't enjoy seeing his pigs die in the last series but feels it is important such things are shown on TV so people realise where food actually comes from.

Posted by: Steven | May 18, 2007 02:54 PM

appreciate your statement - peace!!!!

Posted by: silent tongue | May 18, 2007 03:43 PM

Steven,
One thing I have learned in
life is that,
we can agree to disagree and still remain civil to each other.
It may be hard but at least I am working at it.
But my right is also speaking
out about the slaughtering of animals and how I appose it.
Just like you show your views
because you also have a free voice and and a free mind and I respect that.
I guess that is what makes this world go round.
So I am taking a sip of green tea and toasting to civility to one another.
Judith

Posted by: Judith, Freedom Fighter | May 18, 2007 03:44 PM

Stuart, amen. You took the words right out of my mouth. PETA has a serious infantile side that makes them look like spoiled children.

What's really sad is that I'm a veterianary nurse, animal rescuer and wildlife rehabber, and PETA has damaged the animal rights movement. They have helped many animals with their actions, but their campaigns have set the movement back 30 years.

People won't listen to any of us now because of them. They think I'm going to burn their house down just because I want to educate them.

Doug, please don't give medical advice without any credentials. It has nothing to do with nutrients. People with celiac's disease have a problem with absorbing nutrients because their immune systems attack their small intestine, even if they are careful with their diets. They can't just "go vegan".

There are 3 components to nutrition: nutrients, absorbtion and bioavailabitlity.

And in England many words are spelled differently, including medical terms.

Posted by: Maya | May 19, 2007 11:20 AM

A big bravo to Peta! Gordon Ramsay is a horrible person, he got what he deserves! The guy despises vegans and veggies; he once served a dish with meat to a veggie pretending it was vegetarian and said he'll disown his kids if they were vegetarians. Just the way he treats his staff shows how despicable this man is.

Posted by: Rodolphe fleury | May 19, 2007 01:53 PM

A big bravo to Peta! Gordon Ramsay is a horrible person, he got what he deserves! The guy despises vegans and veggies; he once served a dish with meat to a veggie pretending it was vegetarian and said he'll disown his kids if they were vegetarians. Just the way he treats his staff shows how despicable this man is.

Posted by: Rodolphe fleury | May 19, 2007 01:53 PM

I don't know how many comments I've read above that agree with the slaughter of horses, but all of the people who wrote them are heartless, twisted (and fat) fuckers who are going to burn in hell. FUCK PEOPLE WHO EAT MEAT!!! VEG 4 LIFE!!!!! <3

Posted by: Brittany | May 19, 2007 06:09 PM

Just the thought of somebody wanting to eat horse meat makes me sick. Horses are magnificent but so are
chickens,deers,pigs,cows and every other beautiful creature the lord created. Meat is unecessary;people can definitely do away with it from their diet if they want to, unfortunately some are so recalcitrant they won't budge. If only they would comprehend the plight the hapless animals go through on a daily basis...

Caroline

Posted by: Caroline | May 21, 2007 12:08 PM

Judith,

I wouldn't dream of eating a horse steak. The idea of it leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I just wouldn't dump a load of horse manure round someone's house who had. Just because I disagreed with PETA's actions you have labelled me as someone who does in typical PETA fashion without asking.

I actually understand your message but as soon as someone dislikes a petty action executed by PETA, I have to be told to enjoy my horse steak.

Posted by: Paul | May 22, 2007 03:17 AM

Hahaha the picture made me laugh and the horse is cute :)

Posted by: Angel | May 22, 2007 07:48 AM

I am a vegetarian and do not eat meat on moral and ethical grounds because I don't agree with eating it myself. However - I don't have a problem with what Gordon Ramsay does and promotes on his programme. If people want to eat animals - the way that he does it is the best possible way - he raises the animals to make sure they have decent lives and then kills them in a way which minimises pain and suffering. All the animal is used up and there is little waste. This is far better for the animals themselves rather than the awful chicken and pig farms and the amount of wastage that there is these days.
On the horse meat issue - if you will eat cows and pigs and chickens - then eating horse is no different. Again I would not eat any of those things but it would be hypocrital to eat some animals but not others. Peoples reations are purely based on the 'cuteness' of an animal and as they have them as pets can't face eating them.

Posted by: Rhian | May 22, 2007 05:21 PM

haha.. great. he deserves it. i honestly think that in his future programs he's going to murder his pet (if he has any, and hasnt already killed it) and cook it. i hate all forms of slaughter (meat, dairy, vivisection, etc) and horse slaughter is some of the worst. anyone who actually looks into the eyes of a horse or cow or even a chicken and stopped to think "he could be my next burger" and think through everything they would go to would never eat meat. I did, at age 11. except ramsay wouldnt. he is a terrible person. just watch his show. he always yells, and probably abuses his family. if he cant have respect for the nicest forms of life like cows and horses, he sure isnt going to respect his family. i bet they pretty much hate him. unless they are cold-hearted like him.

Posted by: AnNa | May 22, 2007 05:43 PM

Hi mom!

Posted by: alexa | May 25, 2007 04:07 PM

ok. So people are getting all riled up because Peta dumped some crap on the street? Hello people..... It's ok for this man to promote eating the meat of a domestic animal? Why don't we all just eat dog? Better yet maybe we should just start eating each other. Just because a creature can't talk doesn't mean we shouold eat it. I will not tell people what they can or can not eat but I will say that getting all upset over a load of crap is a joke! when these people are cruel and torturous that is ok? Peta can sometimes come on strong and even push harder than they should at times but they are making a difference and that is what counts! by the way if you decide to cancel your subscription over this then you really don't get the cause and shouldn't have been a member in the first place!

Posted by: Linda | May 25, 2007 06:29 PM

ok. So people are getting all riled up because Peta dumped some crap on the street? Hello people..... It's ok for this man to promote eating the meat of a domestic animal? Why don't we all just eat dog? Better yet maybe we should just start eating each other. Just because a creature can't talk doesn't mean we shouold eat it. I will not tell people what they can or can not eat but I will say that getting all upset over a load of crap is a joke! when these people are cruel and torturous that is ok? Peta can sometimes come on strong and even push harder than they should at times but they are making a difference and that is what counts! by the way if you decide to cancel your subscription over this then you really don't get the cause and shouldn't have been a member in the first place!

Posted by: Linda | May 25, 2007 06:30 PM

Bravo PETA! People are connected to horses as they have served man for so long as we are connected to our dogs. I think that his horse barbecue stunt will only open the minds of people that eating any animal is barbaric. Perhaps some good will come of his actions.

Posted by: Kim McCabe | May 25, 2007 07:11 PM

Bravo PETA! People are connected to horses as they have served man for so long as we are connected to our dogs. I think that his horse barbecue stunt will only open the minds of people that eating any animal is barbaric. Perhaps some good will come of his actions.

Posted by: Kim McCabe | May 25, 2007 07:11 PM

Horses are not for eating they are for riding and they our pets and a means of transportation. This guy is discussion.

Posted by: Joan | May 25, 2007 07:12 PM

Eating a horse is no better than eating a cow. But people tend to care more about horses, so this is a good start. Gordan Ramsay is trying to desensitize the world to the suffering of animals. It's good that PETA reminded everyone that it's not OK.

I don't see any point in cancelling your PETA membership unless you're in the UK.

Nobody pay attention to the mindless remarks from all those meat-heads. They'll pay for it with their health in the end.

Posted by: :) | May 25, 2007 08:56 PM

murder is murder. that is plain and simple. animals have the ability to experience love, affection, cold, warmth, hunger, pain, fear and so on. put yourself in their place or put your own pet in their place as the butcher comes to make its next kill. feel the same fear and pain that the billions of slaughtered animals feel day in and day out. the bottom line is it is senseless killing. and no matter how you look at it -- when the butcher comes to take an animal's final breath it is one of god's living creatures that has to pay the price. and how arrogant as humans that we feel superior to animals that their flesh is more valuable that their freedom to live. i have looked into the eyes of many different animals and they all have souls – they all have experienced the beautiful privilege of life. what gives us the power to take away the life of a living creature?

Posted by: stacey | May 26, 2007 03:06 AM

I think Gordon Ramsay is a complete and utter attention seeking jerk who does not have the ability to treat even humans with respect, his language is appalling and its obvious that he can't handle the stress of the industry and so he should just get out and go live in some little far away village where we can't hear his filthy gutter voice.

What new lows he has stooped to now with this ludicrous and stomach lurching horse stunt. Someone put a bullet to this man and put us all out of our misery. Get the message peoples, WE DON'T NEED HORSE MEAT!!! DON'T WE HAVE ENOUGH SLAUGHTER OF ENOUGH KINDS OF MEAT IN THE WORLD!!

But hey,why am I surprised, I mean humans are just so goddam selfish and ever increasingly greedy these days that they just cannot be content with what they have, they always have to be on the lookout for the next thrill (usually sexual followed by edible), and if its edible then its usually enjoyed all the more if that food is some exotic animal that has been murdered in some cruel and cold blooded manner.

Stupid of me really to be surprised at GR and all you horse and meat loving people, your probably precisely the kinds of people that I have described above.

SHAME ON YOU ALL.

Bouquets to Heather and Judith above.

Australia

Posted by: Amanda Thompson | May 26, 2007 06:13 AM

okay, wed ont have only 5 channels for the whole country... that is terestial tv ... the basic one... which is being erradicated soon anyway... anyone with digital tv/sky or whatever have hundreds of channels :s they are were most of the cookery shows are,,,

but anyway... gordon ramsay is a tard who raised pigs for slaughter and fed them wine on his last series... and this series is raising lambs... he is an idiot and im glad peta are doing something about it

Posted by: nic | May 26, 2007 09:59 AM

I dont eat meat, but my wife and family do. It is my choice to not eat meat and I dont have to explain to anyone why, as it is a personal decision.

I understand that some people might not have the same opinion as me with regards animals and whether we should eat them or not and i respect their choices too.

Gordon Ramsey is a love or loathe character and of course a business man. He is using standard marketing get methods in order to get his name out there to the general public. Fair enough!

I would choose to NOT eat as his restaurant for whatever my reasons, my wife may choose TO eat at his restaurant for whatever her reasons and so be it.

By dumping manure outside his restaurant is neither helping or hindering the situation as most people will already have their opinion on whether they like or dislike Ramsey. What it will do is make a lot of people think that PETA are idiots and stunt making extremists. I dont think this will genuinely help save animals from suffering whatsoever.

Perhaps efforts would be better focussed on battery farms, vivisection etc rather than stunt/ publicity seeking outside a celebrity chefs restaurant. After all, it will probably have a worse effect on PETA in the long run.

One word: Backfire.

Posted by: Adam Bee | May 26, 2007 02:22 PM

ITS A SHAME TO ENCOURAGE SOMEONE TO EAT A BEAUTIFUL HORSE.

Posted by: KATHERINE BOMMARITO | May 27, 2007 02:37 AM

In response to Steven's comment of 17th May:
Do you think that a large part of the world's population of Hindu's would agree that children 'need' meat?
Albert Einstein was vege - was there anything wrong with his brain?
Also, if you had the choice between never being born and dying in a most horrific way what would you choose? The main point being here that you DO have the choice.

Thanks,

Katie, North Yorkshire

Posted by: Katie Timmins | May 27, 2007 01:33 PM

Can Americans remember that there is no such thing as English tv it british How would you like to be called canadian.
Getting back to Mr Ramsay he is only one of many that dont like vegatarians or vagan and thinks you can only be called a chef if you cook meat but i think if you cant cook with just veg you are not much of a cook forget award winning.Never mind poor horse no one cares for cows pigs etc i dont think animals should be food but all you get in return is oh we need to have choice sorry when you are causing pain and suffering you should have no choice.

Posted by: Margaret | May 27, 2007 05:37 PM

Yes, perhaps many people were offended by the public display PETA choose to use in reaction to Gordon Ramsey...but don't crucify these people for believing in something fervently enough to actually act on it. They care-and they showed it, and they spread the word. In my opinion, at least there is still one organization willing to make headlines based on what they believe in, even if it defies mainstream society on a constant basis. They are trying to change the world; ACTIVELY trying. Read all the comments--GOOD BAD & the UGLY-its ALL there. PETA made people think, made people REACT!! If only we could have more people passionate about events affecting the world today and choosing to stand up in the face of adversity. Could you imagine if this was about world hunger instead? Would YOU have bothered to read this or comment if it was? It may not be world peace, but this is the battle they chose--to value ALL life. Sounds like the closest step to any kind of peace that I've ever heard. And I see nothing wrong with what they did to share that idea with the world. Was anyone harmed? Were they overly cruel to the sidewalk?? Whether or not you agree, a lot of people still took the time to share their own thoughts, even if in a negative context. SO it still got your attention; it still made people think. And for every 50 nasty and rude comments written, if one person's eyes were opened despite all of that; if even one person chooses compassion over cruelty because of it-well, seems to me PETA definately accomplished something.

Posted by: Kallypso | May 28, 2007 04:28 AM

Congratulations PETA--dumping
manure was exactly the right
thing to do--some of the
comments indicate that eating
meat (horsemeat included) is
healthy--what on earth are these people thinking--heart
attack and strokes from fat
are just a part of it--being
a vegetarian is the answer--
I LOVE BEING A MEMBER OF PETA
AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO FOR
THE REST OF MY DAYS ON EARTH--
YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST.
Saving all of these precious
animals is the answer--eating
a cow, pig, horse, duck,
chicken, etc. is no different
than eating a family pet--why
are people still living in
prehistoric times--GET WITH IT
GO VEGGIE--BE HEALTHY AND HAPPY THAT YOU SAVED A LIFE--
ANIMALS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT
AS HUMANS.

SALLY OMAR

Posted by: sally omar | May 29, 2007 02:35 AM

"meat - something that human beings actually EVOLVED into, thus allowing the species to survive - should be just that."

It's truly sad when this level of ignorance exists. If you're going to eat meat at least have your facts straight. At least understand that meat is not natural for us as primates, and far from being essential to our survival, is detrimental to our health. It has nothing to do with evolution. To determine how natural meat eating is for the human animal one only has to open one's mouth at a mirror to note the lack of fangs, which all true carnivores have. You then might want to examine images of a true carnivore's colon, such as a lion, and compare them to images of the human colon to see the vast differences.

Study after study has confirmed a vegetarian diet is healthier for people. When Dr. Dean Ornish puts bypass patients on a vegetarian diet, they improve greatly, often avoiding the need for future surgery. Their high fat meat-based diet is what in large part lead them to need the bypasses in the first place! If meat is so essential for us, why do people's health levels improve when they stop eating it?

Meat is a habit and a treat. Period. And when the level of cruelty required to produce it reaches what it has in modern agribusiness, the choice becomes less and less defensible. It is impossible to justify something that causes immense suffering, as well as massive environmental pollution and destruction simply bc people derive pleasure from the treats it produces.

And ask yourselves how 'natural' and healthy it is to eat animals who have never seen the sun or walked on earth; who must be given large quantities of drugs just to keep them alive long enough to make it to slaughter? If the animals this chef uses have been raised humanely, that is at least a step in the right direction, but encouraging people to eat more animals of any kind is irresponsible - to both people and the earth.

Having said that however, PETA's stunts are embarrassing to me as an anti cruelty activist. Dumping shit is not going to educate people. It's only going to piss them off. People will learn far more factual info by reading Slaughterhouse by Gail Eisnitz or the beautifully written Dominion by Matthew Scully, than seeing a pile of crap in the street.

Posted by: Jan | June 2, 2007 12:46 AM

As a comitted vegan, I must say I find Gordon Ramsey a fantastic albeit unwitting promoter of vegetarianism. Either a person eats animals, or they don't, and the hypocrisy of meat-eaters who happily comply with the mass murder of cows and pigs but get all huffy over horses of dogs needs to be highlighted. In my ideal world, no human would eat meat, but I know this will never happen. What COULD happen is that those who do choose organic, free-range, and some choose not to contribute to this slaughter because they see the light...Ramsey is right to teach his children where meat comes from -more people need to see the soul in their food, and respect it as once having lived, rather than an unrecognisable chunk of protein on their plate.

Posted by: Daisy B | June 3, 2007 06:44 AM

Its ridiculus that people have anything against eating horses as opposed to any other animal, just because people go round riding on them doesnt make them any better than a cow.

Seriously though why does an animal have more right to live than a vegetable?

If your answer is it has a brain and can feel, its irrelevant, a vegetable has just as much right to live than anything else, so everyone should be able to eat anything they want to, well providing you want to live.

Posted by: Ben | June 4, 2007 07:48 AM

"Seriously though why does an animal have more right to live than a vegetable? If your answer is it has a brain and can feel, its irrelevant, a vegetable has just as much right to live than anything else."

I hope this was posted as a joke. By this logic, no person has anymore right to life than a vegetable, even though we have brains and can feel.

Posted by: jodi | June 5, 2007 02:27 PM

Oh my god! Have you guy's seriously got nothing better to do. At the end of the day we are not the only animals that eat meat. Are you going to start protests against other meat eating animals? That would be funny, Mr Tiger waking up to a pile of deer poo on his doorstep with one of you guy's dressed as one. At the end of the day what right do you guy's have to go around telling people what they can and can't eat. You don't see us trying to wedge a steak down your throats. If you want to eat just veg that is your choice to do so, and theres nothing wrong with that, but you have no right to tell other people what they should eat.

Posted by: Glyn Thomas | June 5, 2007 05:16 PM

PETA has damaged its own cause beyond belief. As a meat eater who has eaten horse meat as a child, Rhian's and Adam B's gentle persuasion would be much more likely to change my mind than some of the bullying that's going on in this forum and in PETA itself. You're much more likely to get me to respect, and maybe even subscribe to, your beliefs if I can see that you're respecting mine. Some of you are terrorists in waiting and should find some fundamentalist group to join. How can you really care about horses when you're so cruel to others of your own species? You're using this group as a vehicle to taunt and bully other people.

Posted by: Lynn H | June 6, 2007 05:20 AM

Was it Stuart who said the "animals only exist for our pleasure"? Are you serious? It amazes me that so many people think this way. What a self righteous attitude to have. We are supposed to be the "superior" species but where has that gotten us if we have no compassion? As someone else has already stated, horses have been our allies for thousands of years and have served us loyally; this is how we repay the favour? Disgusting. As bad as eating a dog or cat.

Posted by: Michaela | June 6, 2007 08:23 AM

My only concern is that this stunt will only further incite worse behaviour from Gordon Ramsey as retaliation. What are so many anti-Peta doing on this site? A lot of you say that you have a right to your own opinions...but this is a forum for people opposed to the unethical treatment of animals....we didn't come to the Pro-horse eating forum and tell you off!!!

Posted by: Jessica | June 6, 2007 08:31 AM

Yes, Glyn, we do have a right to tell people not to eat meat. The point is that eating meat is unethical, because of the cruel way that animals raised for food are treated (see www.meat.org). The neat thing about ethics is that you do get to tell people to stop doing something when you perceive it as being wrong. If people were forced to keep their mouths shut when they perceived an injustice as you suggest, we'd have a pretty lousy society.

Posted by: Jack | June 6, 2007 10:31 AM

Jack,

So the neat thing about ethics is you get to dump crap outside someone else's establishment? Seems anti social to me, but that's what happens when you try and convert by force. There are so many people on this forum who eat meat suggesting that they feel strongly about the way PETA have conducted themselves in this instance. Instead of dumping crap on your door though, they have entered into a debate to voice their opinions.

This kind of thing amazes me.

Posted by: Paul | June 11, 2007 08:18 AM

What a disgrace. Haven't PETA got better things to be doing than these sort of pathetic stunts? Childish and dissapointing.

Posted by: K K | June 11, 2007 05:58 PM

My beloved horse of 20 years was loved as all horses should be loved..a lifelong owner, the best I could afford for her. When it was her time, it was quick and painless, anything else for her and every other wonderous equine soul is barbaric. Horses bring a beauty to our world only the lucky see...RIP my beloved Shalleen

Posted by: Gina | June 12, 2007 12:46 AM

Childish and disappointing? That’s Ramsey.That guy makes me ashamed to be British.

Posted by: Jeff | June 12, 2007 05:26 AM

janet Horse-teeth Street Porter

Posted by: Anonymous | June 24, 2007 08:23 PM

Really, if anything this protest by PETA has brought more attention to Gordon and his antics. Good. It has made people talk of it and think about it. People need to be aware of what lenths this man will go to in order to keep his name on the list of Celeb chiefs. Horse meat? Please. If it is just a matter of healthier meat then what happens if we suddenly find out that Puppy meat is better for you then horse. Or Kitten meat is better for you then Chicken. Will anyone complain about Fido or Fluffy when he puts them in the grinder saying 'how about this alternitive?' will any care about how well they were treated before are killed and skined? People dont care how an animal is treated before it is eaten, people still eat lobster which is known to be cooked alive, so that is not the issue. The issue is yet another animal is being selected by us to die just so we might taste something diffrent. It has become like a social protacol. Which animal can you afford to eat? The more shocking the animal, the higher you are regarded?
Gordon has publicly stated he 'lies' to veggies if they come to his resturants. That is this mans idea of a good chuckle?

Posted by: claire | September 18, 2007 11:34 AM

If PETA wants to be taken seriously, Peta should stop using childish antics and go about it in a mature way. PETA is laughed at and considered a bunch of "Weirdos" or "Nutjobs" by a considerable amount of people. Dump manure at my door and see yourself in one of the biggest lawsuits you have ever seen. Go about it in a clean, decent manner and your response will be a lot better.

Posted by: Jennifer | September 27, 2007 03:22 AM

Ever since I've been involved with cruelty against animals and animal testing I've lost more and more respect for PETA. I've never known them to actually go out and help animals. They just give facts, go undercover, and bitch...oh ya and ask for money.
As much as I love animals this is fucking ridiculous. Chefs are going to serve meat whether you like it or not. But this is downright immature and you'll get nowhere doing these sort of acts.
Dumping fucking manure in front of a chef's restaurant isn't going to solve any problems but create law suits.
I've watched many Gordon Ramsay shows and he respects vegetarians and vegans. But don't pull bullshit stunts because you don't agree with him.

Posted by: Nessa | October 18, 2007 07:24 PM

i really fail to see how this will stop people eating horse meat. Won't it just make PETA seem like an immature group of hippies? This is nearly terrorism; intimidating normal people in a normal place doing normal things to try convert people to believe what they believe.

PETA will stop at nothing to get what they want and that means they're dangerous.

Posted by: Lewis | October 27, 2007 07:35 PM

|: Why are people who dont support animal rights even posting on this website? Its a place for vegetarians/vegans etc to gather, not heartless supporters of the meat industry!

Posted by: Ruby | January 11, 2008 05:09 PM

|: Why are people who dont support animal rights even posting on this website? Its a place for vegetarians/vegans etc to gather, not heartless supporters of the meat industry!

no freedom of speech then? rather stay insular and forget the outside world exists? no point even commenting on non vegetarians/non vegans then is there?

Posted by: andi reilly | June 3, 2008 11:57 PM

I think that peta has nothing better to do but dump horse shit on a person that has there own openion i think that peta force their openion on people and they go about wrong how they spread their message

Posted by: Louise | June 11, 2008 04:35 AM

Peta sayz that people would not eat their family pet so they shouldn't eat any other animal. But horse are used for soap and dog food they are recycled nothing is wasted were as if you don't let natural go it becomes unbalecend but what i am trying to say is that we can't go around killing everything we see but we can;t protect everything thats just how the world is. really people think that peta is a bunch of nutjobs because they have no construtive arguement and are really immature bunch of people they just stupid stunts and except the world to change because of it they have to take a look at the world around them.

Posted by: Louise | June 11, 2008 04:45 AM